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[popsofctown]

Not because I'm itching to do anything immediately, but if I wind up modding Mafia IV soon the way I ended up modding Mafia I (for lack of a qualified volunteer), I want as much advance notice as I can get.

Content to watch Mafia II and III?  Eager to do another open setup, eager to do a closed, eager to do a large?  After you've played one mafia game I think you can pretty much play as advanced a game as you want to, though a good, balanced, fun, closed theme is harder to design than a more normal game.

Just probing interest here.  Now that there's a forum games section you can play Resistance or maybe a paper and pencil RPG here. 

[Robz888]

I would play another game. I prefer knowing what roles are available, but but either way is fine. Large group or small group is fine.

[Morgrim7]

I would play another game. I prefer knowing what roles are available, but but either way is fine. Large group or small group is fine.

You impress me, Robz. This just goes to show how many forum games the human body is capable of playing. I think this i my last mafia game for a while...

[ftl]

I'm not in until I get back from my June 7th-17th vacation. I'd do one after that, but not before.

[Voltgloss]

I would be interested to try modding a Mafia game, but I'm kinda worried about over-extending (i.e., modding a game WHILE also participating in two games).  I'm not a Robz. 

[popsofctown]

I would recommend not modding and playing 2.  What inevitably happens is you put less effort into the games you're playing and the games you are -playing- in suffer.

[Insomniac]

I'd definetly be up for one seeing as M-II ends at the end of day 3

[ftl]

Well, it ends at the end of day 3 if a townie gets lynched? But not if a mafia does?

[Axxle]

2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it. Mafia members may communicate at night and during the confirmation stage.

[ftl]

It's a little inappropriate to come here, outside of the game, and make posts about whether you're town in the game or not. Discussion related to what role you are should stay in the game thread.

[fakeedit]Axxle beat me to it.[/fakeedit]

[Galzria]

I think 2 Mafia's and a Resistance is my limit. I'm actually human, unlike Robz. If/When Mafia-II ends, I would very much be up for Mafia-IV. My preference is closed, with boundaries. I don't need to know how MANY roles are present, or WHAT roles are present... I just want to know a list of what COULD be present. I know, it's not *quite* closed Mafia, but I think I would enjoy it more. At least I know WHAT to look for/expect. I'm not familiar enough with the game to just assume ANYTHING could be out there, because I don't know what ANYTHING could be. As far as size goes, well, I don't know. I've enjoyed the closeness of the players in Mafia-II (town and Mafia alike!), but find the speed and spread out nature of Mafia-III to be a nice change and interesting one. So I think I would be happy with either.

[Ozle]

Im off on holiday for a week now, so wont be around to be in another one, and then its summer so will actually try to get outside for a bit!

[Voltgloss]

Well, now that Mafia II has come to its conclusion (amazing game by Galzria and Robz there), I feel better about having time to moderate Mafia IV.

Here's the setup I was contemplating.  I browsed the Mafiascum wiki for interesting options, and this jumped out at me for reasons I'll explain below:

• 2 Mafia Goons
• 2 Werewolves
• 3 Masons
• 5 Townies

And the role descriptions:

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Mafia Goon
Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partner, [Player Name].
Abilities:

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.
Win condition:

You win when the other scumteam is eliminated and you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.


Werewolf
Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Werewolf, along with your partner, [Player Name].
Abilities:

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.
Win condition:

You win when the other scumteam is eliminated and you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.


Town Mason
Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Town Mason, along with your partners, [Player Name] and [Player Name].
Abilities:

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here [QuickTopic link].
You are confirmed town to your partners, and them to you.
Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.


Vanilla Townie
Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.
Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

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I like the looks of this because it sets the focus squarely on communication, rather than power roles.  And I like the presence of multiple factions - it fits the theme I have in mind very nicely.

Thoughts?  Pros/cons?  Interest?  I'll wait to start a Mafia IV thread until this evening (EDT) at the earliest, so folks can weigh in with their comments.  Thanks!

[Robz888]

I am in! Love it.

[Galzria]

I would be in.

[Voltgloss]

Also, for those who would have joined Mafia III but decided against it because of the publicly available discussion thread, I am thinking Mafia IV would have no public discussion thread (not even a quicktopic).  Personally, I don't actually care much either way;  but I think it's better for this growing Dominion Mafia community to have both "public discussion" and "no public discussion" games available, so people can choose which they prefer.

But if people feel strongly against this, let me know (and let me know why)!

[popsofctown]

I hate multiball (multiple scumteams), so I would not be in for that.

[theorel]

I've been following some of the Mafia threads, and it's pulled me out of lurking to wanting to play.

So, regardless of set up for the next game...I'm in.

[Voltgloss]

I hate multiball (multiple scumteams), so I would not be in for that.

Fair enough, pops.  Just so I know - would this also extend to a setup with Town, Mafia, and a Serial Killer?  (I was toying with that setup as well.)

[Axxle]

I'd be interested in playing another game, although closed setups sound like they'd be somewhat overwhelming.

[Voltgloss]

I was thinking about other variants that would fit my theme idea, and here's another option I wouldn't mind running - especially if we can't get up to 12 participants.  This one requires only 7.

Setup
- 2 Mafia Goons or 2 Werewolves
- 3 Townies
- 1 Cop
- 1 Seer

Mechanics
- Daystart
- Mafia Goons or Werewolves are chosen randomly by the mod pregame
- Cop gets results in the form of Mafia/Not Mafia
- Seer gets results in the form of Werewolf/Not Werewolf

The idea being, you have two investigative roles, each able to suss out only one type of scum.  Only one type of scum will actually be in the game.  But it's randomly chosen WHICH type of scum that is.

[popsofctown]

No, it doesn't extend to Serial killers.

That might seem inconsistent, but from personal experience the psychology of multiball much harder to catch during the daygame, but Serial killers don't.  Serial killers can often express genuine interest in finding mafia but tend to give off truckloads of survivalist tells.  Mafia in an SK game tend to get caught SK hunting, which looks different than scumhunting because SKs tend to be so different.


EDIT: I've played the open setup you just listed.  I was mafia.  We lost because we tried a gambit that only failed because a townie forgot to claim in his first post (it was complicated but anyway it was a bit like shooting a pool ball and missing your target and knocking a different good one in).
It's not my favorite setup because of the investigative role focus.  I think a semiopen would be a good idea (that's a closed setup with all the possible roles listed)

[Axxle]

The idea being, you have two investigative roles, each able to suss out only one type of scum.  Only one type of scum will actually be in the game.  But it's randomly chosen WHICH type of scum that is.

So we'd basically have Cop and a Naive Cop? http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cop
Although it'd be slightly different since the Naive Cop would know that they're one once a Mafia/Werewolf gets killed.

[popsofctown]

Naive cops have unconfirmed sanity, so it's really another thing entirely..

[Insomniac]

I'd be up for the next game thats run

[Galzria]

As I said in post #10 there, and Pops gave me the correct terminology for, I would be very open to a semi-open game. We don't know what's active in the game, but have a list of what could be. I will happily play with multiple scum factions, but probably prefer just one. And the more people the merrier I think.

[Voltgloss]

It's not my original flavor idea, but looking over the possibilities, I think I've got a workable list for a semi-open 13-player game.  The role list I'm looking at using is:

- Vanilla Townie
- Cop
- One-Shot Cop
- Doctor
- One-Shot Doctor
- Vigilante
- One-Shot Vigilante
- Roleblocker
- One-Shot Roleblocker
- Innocent Child
- Mason
- Mafia Goon
- Mafia Godfather
- Mafia Roleblocker
- Serial Killer

Cop, Doctor, and Serial Killer we're all now familiar with.
Vigilante is a Townie who can kill someone at night.
Innocent Child is a Townie who is publicly confirmed by the moderator to be a Townie (at the start of Day 1).
Masons are Townies who know each others' identities and can communicate at night via PM.
Roleblockers are like Jailkeepers, except they don't protect their target from being killed.  They just stop the target from using their nighttime ability.
Godfathers are Mafia who, when investigated by a Cop, appear to be Town.
And a "one-shot" role means they can only use their power once during the game.

[Galzria]

Love it. Absolutely in.

[Robz888]

In for anything.

[Captain_Frisk]

I'm in for anything as well.

[Galzria]

In for anything.

Nice even 500 post count. /suspicious

[O]

I'd be up if there's no jesters 

Also, is Driver a real role or just one a friend made up? Because thats terrible too.

[Galzria]

I'd be up if there's no jesters 

Also, is Driver a real role or just one a friend made up? Because thats terrible too.

You just don't want the Jester in so you don't have to break your claim streak of BEING one! (Not that I entirely disagree with you about that! )

[Voltgloss]

I'd be up if there's no jesters 

Also, is Driver a real role or just one a friend made up? Because thats terrible too.

No Jesters, I promise. 

You mean Bus Driver?  Yep, it's a real role.  Switches two people around so that night actions targeting one actually target the other.  So if Mafia Galzria tries to kill Robz, and Cop Tables tries to investigate Jotheonah, and Bus Driver O decides to drive Robz and Jotheonah... then Galzria kills Jotheonah and Tables investigates Robz.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

It's interesting, but a bit daunting to include in my first moderated game.  So, no, no Bus Drivers here.

[popsofctown]

That's a good semi-open list.


I prefer the Innocent Child variant that lets the Innocent Child PM the mod whenever he wants the mod to confirm his Innocence.  It's not too powerful and is far more interesting.

[O]

I'd be up if there's no jesters 

Also, is Driver a real role or just one a friend made up? Because thats terrible too.

No Jesters, I promise. 

You mean Bus Driver?  Yep, it's a real role.  Switches two people around so that night actions targeting one actually target the other.  So if Mafia Galzria tries to kill Robz, and Cop Tables tries to investigate Jotheonah, and Bus Driver O decides to drive Robz and Jotheonah... then Galzria kills Jotheonah and Tables investigates Robz.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver

It's interesting, but a bit daunting to include in my first moderated game.  So, no, no Bus Drivers here.

I had a Mafia Driver, your version brings up some questions:

Can mafia kill other mafia?
O is Mafia. O Kills Voltglass, but Voltglass and O were driven.

[Thisisnotasmile]

To be honest I'm probably going to sit out until we get to games with crazy roles for everyone. I much prefer messing with people and trying to work things out than writing essays about how X's essay about how suspicious Y is of Z make him suspicious and actually Z isn't suspicious becuase he wrote a good essay about Y's suspicions of himself because of how he wanted to get the game moving by casting random suspicion just to provoke a reaction which backfired.

[Voltgloss]

I prefer the Innocent Child variant that lets the Innocent Child PM the mod whenever he wants the mod to confirm his Innocence.  It's not too powerful and is far more interesting.

I did see that variant, pops.  If you find it makes for a more interesting role, I'm all for it.  Thanks.

I had a Mafia Driver, your version brings up some questions:

Can mafia kill other mafia?
O is Mafia. O Kills Voltglass, but Voltglass and O were driven.

It's questions like that that make me want to not use Bus Drivers in my first game.    But if I were modding and the question came up, I think I'd rule as follows:

- Mafia can inadvertently kill other mafia.  So if O (Mafia) kills Voltgloss (Town), and Robz (Bus Driver) drives Voltgloss and Galzria (Mafia), then O will inadvertently kill Galzria.

- BUT, mafia can't inadvertently kill themselves, based on the overarching rule that a role can't target themselves under any circumstances.  So if O kills Voltgloss, and Robz drives Voltgloss and O, O doesn't inadvertently kill himself.  He just gets a "no result."

That's my gut reaction, anyway.

To be honest I'm probably going to sit out until we get to games with crazy roles for everyone. I much prefer messing with people and trying to work things out than writing essays about how X's essay about how suspicious Y is of Z make him suspicious and actually Z isn't suspicious becuase he wrote a good essay about Y's suspicions of himself because of how he wanted to get the game moving by casting random suspicion just to provoke a reaction which backfired.

Fair enough, TINAS.  I can see the appeal of a crazy-roles game, I just don't feel comfortable modding one until I have at least one "normal" game under my belt.  One question:  for crazy-roles games, which works better - semi-open or closed?  In a closed game I can see players making up roles for them to have, which definitely fits under the "crazy" category, but also seems really daunting.

[popsofctown]

You mean a closed game with nonstandard roles where a mafia is about to get lynched and he claims a role that he himself made up on the spot?  And then someone else gets lynched because they want to keep the town Time Traveler alive?

I don't even consider that a "crazy" game.

[Thisisnotasmile]

No. I've never played a "closed" game in my life and think the idea of one is stupid. It would be open or at least semi-open.

[Captain_Frisk]

No. I've never played a "closed" game in my life and think the idea of one is stupid. It would be open or at least semi-open.

I've never played an Open game, but I'm finding this current closed one fascinating!

[WanderingWinder]

It's not my original flavor idea, but looking over the possibilities, I think I've got a workable list for a semi-open 13-player game.  The role list I'm looking at using is:

- Vanilla Townie
- Cop
- One-Shot Cop
- Doctor
- One-Shot Doctor
- Vigilante
- One-Shot Vigilante
- Roleblocker
- One-Shot Roleblocker
- Innocent Child
- Mason
- Mafia Goon
- Mafia Godfather
- Mafia Roleblocker
- Serial Killer

Cop, Doctor, and Serial Killer we're all now familiar with.
Vigilante is a Townie who can kill someone at night.
Innocent Child is a Townie who is publicly confirmed by the moderator to be a Townie (at the start of Day 1).
Masons are Townies who know each others' identities and can communicate at night via PM.
Roleblockers are like Jailkeepers, except they don't protect their target from being killed.  They just stop the target from using their nighttime ability.
Godfathers are Mafia who, when investigated by a Cop, appear to be Town.
And a "one-shot" role means they can only use their power once during the game.

Based on the description you give, what is the point of having ONE mason? Or am I missing something?

[Thisisnotasmile]

There would be more than one, if there was one at all.

[popsofctown]

It's not my original flavor idea, but looking over the possibilities, I think I've got a workable list for a semi-open 13-player game.  The role list I'm looking at using is:

- Vanilla Townie
- Cop
- One-Shot Cop
- Doctor
- One-Shot Doctor
- Vigilante
- One-Shot Vigilante
- Roleblocker
- One-Shot Roleblocker
- Innocent Child
- Mason
- Mafia Goon
- Mafia Godfather
- Mafia Roleblocker
- Serial Killer

Cop, Doctor, and Serial Killer we're all now familiar with.
Vigilante is a Townie who can kill someone at night.
Innocent Child is a Townie who is publicly confirmed by the moderator to be a Townie (at the start of Day 1).
Masons are Townies who know each others' identities and can communicate at night via PM.
Roleblockers are like Jailkeepers, except they don't protect their target from being killed.  They just stop the target from using their nighttime ability.
Godfathers are Mafia who, when investigated by a Cop, appear to be Town.
And a "one-shot" role means they can only use their power once during the game.

Based on the description you give, what is the point of having ONE mason? Or am I missing something?

Those are possible roles, not definite roles.  So there would be two or three masons or none at all.
Mason is a a really good role and one of my favorites.

[Voltgloss]

What TINAS and pops said.  Masons would only show up as a group.

[Insomniac]

If you run this Volt I'm definetly in

[eHalcyon]

I suggest making a truly Dominion-themed Mafia game, where the roles are renamed.  The roleblocker would be a Moat.  The Masons can be Conspirators.  You could add in Jester and JoaT (someone linked it in another thread and I liked it -- a character with multiple one-shot abilties).

I would be interested but I think I'll be overwhelmed with Mafia III, unless I die early.

[Voltgloss]

I suggest making a truly Dominion-themed Mafia game, where the roles are renamed.  The roleblocker would be a Moat.  The Masons can be Conspirators.  You could add in Jester and JoaT (someone linked it in another thread and I liked it -- a character with multiple one-shot abilties).

Stop reading my mind. 

No Jester though, I promise.

[Galzria]

Feel free to set it up anytime V, and we can start getting an official signup list going there.

[Voltgloss]

Mafia IV topic will be posted this evening.  Here's hoping it will be a fun ride. 

Edit:  And, the topic's live!  Hope you to see you all there. 

[jotheonah]

Is there interest in Mafia V? I would love to mod a game. I would call it "Mafia V: Dispatches from the Penultimate Province"

[O]

I vote we keep it at 2 mafia games simultaneously at once.

[jotheonah]

well in that case, dibs on moderating the next one.

[O]

well in that case, dibs on moderating the next one.

I call Dibs on VI, a lynch-only reveal game (so if the Cop gets NKed...); if there is sufficient interest at the time.

[Captain_Frisk]

I vote we keep it at 2 mafia games simultaneously at once.

I vote no more than 2 simultaneous games for any individuals.  If a 3rd game started up, I'd be cautiously interested, and I'd be 100% fine with a 3rd game that didn't involve anyone from M4, but I agree that seeing the core of O, RobZ, Galzria, J in EVERY GAME is crazy.

[Robz888]

well in that case, dibs on moderating the next one.

I'm in.

I call Dibs on VI, a lynch-only reveal game (so if the Cop gets NKed...); if there is sufficient interest at the time.

I'm also in.

I vote no more than 2 simultaneous games for any individuals.  If a 3rd game started up, I'd be cautiously interested, and I'd be 100% fine with a 3rd game that didn't involve anyone from M4, but I agree that seeing the core of O, RobZ, Galzria, J in EVERY GAME is crazy.

 

[Galzria]

C.F., you want in, but were ALSO in III and IV. So no discrediting us because we got in the first round before you. You're just as addicted.

I'm in both whenever they happen.

[Voltgloss]

My personal limit is being involved in 2 games at once.  So if Mafia V and/or VI start up while III and IV are still both ongoing, I won't be joining.  But I'll definitely be reading them and will participate in any discussion threads.

[eHalcyon]

I vote we keep it at 2 mafia games simultaneously at once.

I vote no more than 2 simultaneous games for any individuals.  If a 3rd game started up, I'd be cautiously interested, and I'd be 100% fine with a 3rd game that didn't involve anyone from M4, but I agree that seeing the core of O, RobZ, Galzria, J in EVERY GAME is crazy.

Solution: always kill them first. 

I'm in if it's a smaller group.  Mafia III and IV are both ridiculous.  Toooooo many pages.  Also, I think I'd prefer a format where we have at least some idea of which roles are around.

[manda2014]

I'm in if it's a smaller game 

[jotheonah]

other than the awesome name, nothing is set in stone, so please express game set up preferences. Who would play in a role madness game? A bastard mod game? (I'm just gauging interest, don't worry) (And if I do a bastard game, I promise it will be labelled as such)

[Robz888]

other than the awesome name, nothing is set in stone, so please express game set up preferences. Who would play in a role madness game? A bastard mod game? (I'm just gauging interest, don't worry) (And if I do a bastard game, I promise it will be labelled as such)

As you know, I am in for anything.

I had expected that games with MORE people would be better, because that's how it works IRL. On the forum, I'm not sure that's the case, and I sort of miss the more intimate feel of MI and MII. However, I would be loathe to turn away anybody interested in playing (especially because I might get shown the door at some point....). As for roles, whatever, but I do like knowing what could be in the game.

[eHalcyon]

I'm interested in having games with Masons and multiple Mafia families.  I guess these things (especially the latter) only really work in bigger games... hum.

Might also be neat to have some bulletproof people.

[Captain_Frisk]

other than the awesome name, nothing is set in stone, so please express game set up preferences. Who would play in a role madness game? A bastard mod game? (I'm just gauging interest, don't worry) (And if I do a bastard game, I promise it will be labelled as such)

As you know, I am in for anything.

I had expected that games with MORE people would be better, because that's how it works IRL. On the forum, I'm not sure that's the case, and I sort of miss the more intimate feel of MI and MII. However, I would be loathe to turn away anybody interested in playing (especially because I might get shown the door at some point....). As for roles, whatever, but I do like knowing what could be in the game.

I am really enjoying the closed setup!  I like knowi that ther could be an arsonist, or a CPR doctor, or a nk immune miller vig.

I would play role madness, or bastard mod

I am in favor of shorter days, even if it is stressful.

[Glooble]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

[O]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

Well that's pretty damn obvious; I would win 

[Voltgloss]

I'm interested in having games with Masons and multiple Mafia families.  I guess these things (especially the latter) only really work in bigger games... hum.

See my post #12 for an example thereof.  Designed for 12 players.

[jotheonah]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

After the 23rd day with no lynch and no nightkills, the town is getting restless...

[Galzria]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

After the 23rd day with no lynch and no nightkills, the town is getting restless...

TLHEA.

[WanderingWinder]

I'm in if it's a smaller game

How do you have 2 respect with one post, which I have to assume is this post, which doesn't have any upvotes?
Oh, welcome to the forums!


I vote against more mafia here on the forums. Quite probably for more somewhere else, like quicktopics.


Edit: Oh right, this isn't the one post, because posts in this forum don't count.

[manda2014]

I'm in if it's a smaller game

How do you have 2 respect with one post, which I have to assume is this post, which doesn't have any upvotes?
Oh, welcome to the forums!


I vote against more mafia here on the forums. Quite probably for more somewhere else, like quicktopics.


Edit: Oh right, this isn't the one post, because posts in this forum don't count.

The respect is on my post in the intros subforum. 

[eHalcyon]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

Last weekend I played Mafia IRL with a bunch of friends, assigning roles using playing cards.  We'd already played a few games.  Several players were a bit miffed because they still hadn't gotten anything other than Vanilla Townie and they ended up swapping cards with each other, seeing they were all VT.  Of course that's not fair to other players, so we would redeal.  And the same thing would happen again.  We redealt something like 5 times.  Others started getting fed up so they finally settled down and accepted their role.  That game was particularly bad for the town.  Everyone who died came up VT.  They didn't realize until the very end that I had dealt everyone VT cards.

The best part was how confused one guy was after he'd gotten lynched.  It was night phase and he was looking around trying to find the Mafia (and other roles) as I called out to them.  It took him far longer than should have been necessary to realize I was just making it up. 

[Robz888]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

Last weekend I played Mafia IRL with a bunch of friends, assigning roles using playing cards.  We'd already played a few games.  Several players were a bit miffed because they still hadn't gotten anything other than Vanilla Townie and they ended up swapping cards with each other, seeing they were all VT.  Of course that's not fair to other players, so we would redeal.  And the same thing would happen again.  We redealt something like 5 times.  Others started getting fed up so they finally settled down and accepted their role.  That game was particularly bad for the town.  Everyone who died came up VT.  They didn't realize until the very end that I had dealt everyone VT cards.

The best part was how confused one guy was after he'd gotten lynched.  It was night phase and he was looking around trying to find the Mafia (and other roles) as I called out to them.  It took him far longer than should have been necessary to realize I was just making it up. 

This is an experiment that I think every group of regular mafia players runs eventually. I remember when we did it with my friends. I was unaware (only the moderator knew, of course), and I died during the gamr. The moderator told me after I was dead.

Eventually, there were 3 people left. They were utterly, utterly, furiously confused. They took forever to decide who to lynch. They just had no idea. When they found out, they were beside themselves with anger.

Anyway, this solidified in my mind that somehow, members of the mafia do give themselves away. Because in this game, with actually no mafia, the all-town group actually did have a noticeably harder time deciding who to kill.

[eHalcyon]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

Last weekend I played Mafia IRL with a bunch of friends, assigning roles using playing cards.  We'd already played a few games.  Several players were a bit miffed because they still hadn't gotten anything other than Vanilla Townie and they ended up swapping cards with each other, seeing they were all VT.  Of course that's not fair to other players, so we would redeal.  And the same thing would happen again.  We redealt something like 5 times.  Others started getting fed up so they finally settled down and accepted their role.  That game was particularly bad for the town.  Everyone who died came up VT.  They didn't realize until the very end that I had dealt everyone VT cards.

The best part was how confused one guy was after he'd gotten lynched.  It was night phase and he was looking around trying to find the Mafia (and other roles) as I called out to them.  It took him far longer than should have been necessary to realize I was just making it up. 

This is an experiment that I think every group of regular mafia players runs eventually. I remember when we did it with my friends. I was unaware (only the moderator knew, of course), and I died during the gamr. The moderator told me after I was dead.

Eventually, there were 3 people left. They were utterly, utterly, furiously confused. They took forever to decide who to lynch. They just had no idea. When they found out, they were beside themselves with anger.

Anyway, this solidified in my mind that somehow, members of the mafia do give themselves away. Because in this game, with actually no mafia, the all-town group actually did have a noticeably harder time deciding who to kill.

My friends thought it was hilarious afterwards.  Were roles not being revealed?  At the very worst, if you know there are 2 Mafia, then the game is over when the town is size 4, right?

[Robz888]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

Last weekend I played Mafia IRL with a bunch of friends, assigning roles using playing cards.  We'd already played a few games.  Several players were a bit miffed because they still hadn't gotten anything other than Vanilla Townie and they ended up swapping cards with each other, seeing they were all VT.  Of course that's not fair to other players, so we would redeal.  And the same thing would happen again.  We redealt something like 5 times.  Others started getting fed up so they finally settled down and accepted their role.  That game was particularly bad for the town.  Everyone who died came up VT.  They didn't realize until the very end that I had dealt everyone VT cards.

The best part was how confused one guy was after he'd gotten lynched.  It was night phase and he was looking around trying to find the Mafia (and other roles) as I called out to them.  It took him far longer than should have been necessary to realize I was just making it up. 

This is an experiment that I think every group of regular mafia players runs eventually. I remember when we did it with my friends. I was unaware (only the moderator knew, of course), and I died during the gamr. The moderator told me after I was dead.

Eventually, there were 3 people left. They were utterly, utterly, furiously confused. They took forever to decide who to lynch. They just had no idea. When they found out, they were beside themselves with anger.

Anyway, this solidified in my mind that somehow, members of the mafia do give themselves away. Because in this game, with actually no mafia, the all-town group actually did have a noticeably harder time deciding who to kill.

My friends thought it was hilarious afterwards.  Were roles not being revealed?  At the very worst, if you know there are 2 Mafia, then the game is over when the town is size 4, right?

No, whenever I play IRL, we DO NOT reveal roles when people die. So when there are 3 left, all they know is there has to be 1 mafia and 2 non-mafia.

I'd say this way is actually much, much, much better. But for online play, it just makes things way too difficult for the town.

[Axxle]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

I was just thinking that!  But I'd probably also make them all 1-shot vigilantes and not reveal NK roles.

[eHalcyon]

I meant what I said about PMing everyone Jester as their role just to see what would happen.

I was just thinking that!  But I'd probably also make them all 1-shot vigilantes and not reveal NK roles.

A game with no mafia.  Have a couple of Serial Killers, and all the town are X-shot Vigilantes.

[chwhite]

I also have a story of some IRL friends who played a Mafia game where the mod gave everyone Vanilla Town.  (I wasn't actually in that game.)  I'm not surprised to see other groups doing it.

[O]

I also have a story of some IRL friends who played a Mafia game where the mod gave everyone Vanilla Town.  (I wasn't actually in that game.)  I'm not surprised to see other groups doing it.

I was the first lynch in a game like that.

So... hard.. to not... laugh..

[Galzria]

I also have a story of some IRL friends who played a Mafia game where the mod gave everyone Vanilla Town.  (I wasn't actually in that game.)  I'm not surprised to see other groups doing it.

I was the first lynch in a game like that.

So... hard.. to not... laugh..

Why am I completely not surprised?

[O]

I didn't claim Jester, if that's what you're thinking...

[Galzria]

I didn't claim Jester, if that's what you're thinking...

That's why they lynched you then, now isn't it?

[Kuildeous]

I vote we keep it at 2 mafia games simultaneously at once.

I have no horse in the race, since I've sworn myself off of forum Mafia games, but I don't see the need to place a cap on the number of games. These posts no longer show up on the news feed, right? So the increased traffic doesn't interfere with non-Mafia players. It would just increase the number of new threads in the subforum.

I could definitely see a limit of the number of games a player can participate in, but even that should probably be up to the individual on whether he can handle it or not. Robz apparently is a multi-tasking fool. Even then, I'm sure that his games suffer a little bit, but he seems to be handling it just fine. I suppose that's one benefit of playing by forum; you aren't under so much pressure to respond right away.

It would seem that if there are enough players interested in a new game, there's no reason to cap it at two simultaneous games. Since each "day" could last up to 2 weeks, it'd be unfortunate to have people waiting in the wings for so long.

[Captain_Frisk]

I wonder if the WW's of the world would be fine with a forked forum... mafia.dominostrategy.com... where we could maintain our Domino themed games and our sense of community - but not be mucking up the boards.  It would also let us keep post counts.

As someone who didn't like mafia showing up at first, I can sympathize with those who don't want to see 7 things of mafia up on the recent unread posts list, especially since once it gets rolling, it always stays up there.

[WanderingWinder]

I wonder if the WW's of the world would be fine with a forked forum... mafia.dominostrategy.com... where we could maintain our Domino themed games and our sense of community - but not be mucking up the boards.  It would also let us keep post counts.

As someone who didn't like mafia showing up at first, I can sympathize with those who don't want to see 7 things of mafia up on the recent unread posts list, especially since once it gets rolling, it always stays up there.

Alas, I have but one +1 to give. Well, I guess I can make a post, so that's sort of 2?

[jotheonah]

sorry, I'm picturing DominoStrategy.com. Somehow I don't see it being quite the same sort of community...

I'm happy to do the whole game in a QT or offsite or something if that would make people happy.

[Captain_Frisk]

sorry, I'm picturing DominoStrategy.com. Somehow I don't see it being quite the same sort of community...

I'm happy to do the whole game in a QT or offsite or something if that would make people happy.

I started it with a typo, but then when I thought about how funny it would be to have a deep strategy articles, game log analysis, and a youtube channel of mexican train dominos, I decided to keep it and run with it.

[Captain_Frisk]

I wonder if the WW's of the world would be fine with a forked forum... mafia.dominostrategy.com... where we could maintain our Domino themed games and our sense of community - but not be mucking up the boards.  It would also let us keep post counts.

As someone who didn't like mafia showing up at first, I can sympathize with those who don't want to see 7 things of mafia up on the recent unread posts list, especially since once it gets rolling, it always stays up there.

Alas, I have but one +1 to give. Well, I guess I can make a post, so that's sort of 2?

Oh - I'm not sure if you noticed, but you can actually "ignore" the forum games boards now if you are so inclined.

[WanderingWinder]

I wonder if the WW's of the world would be fine with a forked forum... mafia.dominostrategy.com... where we could maintain our Domino themed games and our sense of community - but not be mucking up the boards.  It would also let us keep post counts.

As someone who didn't like mafia showing up at first, I can sympathize with those who don't want to see 7 things of mafia up on the recent unread posts list, especially since once it gets rolling, it always stays up there.

Alas, I have but one +1 to give. Well, I guess I can make a post, so that's sort of 2?

Oh - I'm not sure if you noticed, but you can actually "ignore" the forum games boards now if you are so inclined.

No, I can't...?

[Voltgloss]

I'm happy to do the whole game in a QT or offsite or something if that would make people happy.

Should we all just join mafiascum.net?

I typed this facetiously to start but now I'm kinda thinking about it seriously. 

[theory]

I wonder if the WW's of the world would be fine with a forked forum... mafia.dominostrategy.com... where we could maintain our Domino themed games and our sense of community - but not be mucking up the boards.  It would also let us keep post counts.

As someone who didn't like mafia showing up at first, I can sympathize with those who don't want to see 7 things of mafia up on the recent unread posts list, especially since once it gets rolling, it always stays up there.

Alas, I have but one +1 to give. Well, I guess I can make a post, so that's sort of 2?

Oh - I'm not sure if you noticed, but you can actually "ignore" the forum games boards now if you are so inclined.

No, I can't...?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;area=ignoreboards

[WanderingWinder]

I wonder if the WW's of the world would be fine with a forked forum... mafia.dominostrategy.com... where we could maintain our Domino themed games and our sense of community - but not be mucking up the boards.  It would also let us keep post counts.

As someone who didn't like mafia showing up at first, I can sympathize with those who don't want to see 7 things of mafia up on the recent unread posts list, especially since once it gets rolling, it always stays up there.

Alas, I have but one +1 to give. Well, I guess I can make a post, so that's sort of 2?

Oh - I'm not sure if you noticed, but you can actually "ignore" the forum games boards now if you are so inclined.

No, I can't...?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;area=ignoreboards

Well, I was half-serious, and half-joking. But there are reasons I'd want to not totally ignore it, without having thousands of posts popping up.... How does this ignore thing work, anyway? Somebody post something while I'm testing it out...

[Voltgloss]

Test post per WW's request.

[Captain_Frisk]

Test post per WW's request.

I am also posting offensive things about WW.

[WanderingWinder]

Interesting. It still took me less than 4 minutes to notice these.

[Captain_Frisk]

I'm happy to do the whole game in a QT or offsite or something if that would make people happy.

Should we all just join mafiascum.net?

I typed this facetiously to start but now I'm kinda thinking about it seriously.

I've considered it, because as others have pointed out, I'm addicted.  That said, I like this community.  I don't know anyone over there... I'd really like to get WW or Geronimoooo in a game.

[Captain_Frisk]

Interesting. It still took me less than 4 minutes to notice these.

So what does it do?

[jotheonah]

hey theory, I don't know if you've ever considered doing an April Fools prank with the site (there are many tantalizing possibilities, especially if you could rope DXV into helping) but remaking the front page into DominoStrategy.com would be pretty hilarious.

[WanderingWinder]

Interesting. It still took me less than 4 minutes to notice these.

So what does it do?

Um, nothing? I can see that there's a post been made, but it doesn't flash up blue. Should have checked to see if it posts it to my 'unread posts' - will do that the next time somebody posts. And if I click into the board, the 'new' stuff still shows up.

[eHalcyon]

hey theory, I don't know if you've ever considered doing an April Fools prank with the site (there are many tantalizing possibilities, especially if you could rope DXV into helping) but remaking the front page into DominoStrategy.com would be pretty hilarious.

I am curious about the difference between opening with a 4/3 domino vs. a 5/2 domino. I imagine it isn't especially impactful but I'm a newbie when it comes to Dominos.

Oh, and you can discuss engine building as well read: Rube Goldberg machines.

[Grujah]

Well I guess 5/2 open is more beneficial. As first domino to be laid down is the highest double, there is higher chance that it will be 5/5 than 4/4,3/3,2/2 so you have highest chance to chain with it.

[WanderingWinder]

So posts don't show up in the 'unread feed' either. Nevertheless, this doesn't really satisfy me. Though at this point I realize I'm being increasingly weird, and I don't expect to be accommodated.

[eHalcyon]

Well I guess 5/2 open is more beneficial. As first domino to be laid down is the highest double, there is higher chance that it will be 5/5 than 4/4,3/3,2/2 so you have highest chance to chain with it.

So, I don't actually know domino rules other than matching the dots (pips?) on the pieces. :-P

[Captain_Frisk]

So posts don't show up in the 'unread feed' either. Nevertheless, this doesn't really satisfy me. Though at this point I realize I'm being increasingly weird, and I don't expect to be accommodated.

So the problem is just know that they are there, waiting to be read?  Won't that exist on other forums as well?

[Grujah]

Well I guess 5/2 open is more beneficial. As first domino to be laid down is the highest double, there is higher chance that it will be 5/5 than 4/4,3/3,2/2 so you have highest chance to chain with it.

So, I don't actually know domino rules other than matching the dots (pips?) on the pieces. :-P

Well, actually, for before mentioned reason, 5/2 are generally more worn out so 4/3 tend to have sharper edges which helps in the second stage of game, where the goal is to use pieces that you connected to dismember your opponents.

[O]

I'm proud of you guys.

[Captain_Frisk]

We are filling the void left by mafia I with discussion of domino strategy?  Seems on topic to me.

[Axxle]

Interesting. It still took me less than 4 minutes to notice these.

So what does it do?

Um, nothing? I can see that there's a post been made, but it doesn't flash up blue. Should have checked to see if it posts it to my 'unread posts' - will do that the next time somebody posts. And if I click into the board, the 'new' stuff still shows up.

It doesn't show up in "Show unread posts since last visit" but does show up in "Show new replies to your posts."  You can still navigate to them as normal.  I ignore the Variants board myself.

[manda2014]

Both mafia games are in night 2 now and I don't know what to do with my life anymore O.o

[Grujah]

Go play DOMINION!

O yeah,

Iso down as well 

[Morgrim7]

Go play DOMINION!

O yeah,

Iso down as well 

Not anymore!

[Galzria]

I think from here on out, I'm more in favor of slightly smaller games. That way if we need replacements, we haven't tapped all of our resources. It also makes it easier on potential replacements as there will be less to read.

I would hate for anybody to be left out however, so if it were going to be 2 or 3 running games of 9, I would be good with that.

[Robz888]

I would hate for anybody to be left out however, so if it were going to be 2 or 3 running games of 9, I would be good with that.

I am: In, In, and In.

[Captain_Frisk]

I think from here on out, I'm more in favor of slightly smaller games. That way if we need replacements, we haven't tapped all of our resources. It also makes it easier on potential replacements as there will be less to read.

I would hate for anybody to be left out however, so if it were going to be 2 or 3 running games of 9, I would be good with that.

Don't listen to Him j . Look how much more fun mafia three and four are. it is possible they are more fun because I am in them.

[jotheonah]

Games I am considering:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Medical_Mafia

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fire_and_Ice

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Masons_and_Monks

Some others, but I'd like your thoughts on those three.

[O]

I looked up Fire and Ice and saw this tie:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=18469&start=1225

Read last few pages, hilarious shit there.

[jotheonah]

And now I'm slightly surprised that it's still considered an approved setup.

[O]

And now I'm slightly surprised that it's still considered an approved setup.

So wait, @1-1-1:

Town votes nolynch or is suicidal; neither Fire nor Ice can be lynched

Iff night:
Fire and Ice kill eachother, because targeting town either is no NK (both target) or they lose (other mafia kills them)

So fire and ice lynch town and live happily ever after?

[Captain_Frisk]

I looked up Fire and Ice and saw this tie:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=18469&start=1225

Read last few pages, hilarious shit there.

Reading those last few pages makes me glad that I am playing on Dominion strategy instead.

[O]

I vote medical mafia or fire and ice. Werewolf mafia has no townie wins.

[Grujah]

And now I'm slightly surprised that it's still considered an approved setup.

So wait, @1-1-1:

Town votes nolynch or is suicidal; neither Fire nor Ice can be lynched

Iff night:
Fire and Ice kill eachother, because targeting town either is no NK (both target) or they lose (other mafia kills them)

So fire and ice lynch town and live happily ever after?

Well, actually, townie dies anyway so he might just as well decide who he wants to win.

[Galzria]

Medical Mafia would be great for laughs.

[jotheonah]

the sole mafia win in MM is a hilarious game. guy tries to write a computer program to calculate percent chances of who's which Doctor. Program does so much more harm than good.

[Grujah]

Medial Mafia seems fun (maybe a bit too chaotic though). And everyone is a PR so its cool (unless you get Weak doctor, that sucks  ).

[Voltgloss]

Medical Mafia would be great for laughs.

Seconded. 

Weak Doctor doesn't necessarily suck.  If you have some way of leaving a tell during the Day as to who you're targeting, and then mysteriously die in the night, the Town could put together the pieces and figure out the person you targeted was Mafia.

It really is chaotic though.  Which is probably a good thing to shake up us over-analyzers. 

[popsofctown]

Medical mafia is terrible.  It ends up playing like Dethy.  Everyone has to hypoclaim and everything revolves around investigation.

[O]

Vote: Fire and Ice

Lets hammer this bitch.

[Captain_Frisk]

Vote: Fire and Ice

Lets hammer this bitch.

Vote: closed large setup

[Galzria]

Medical mafia is terrible.  It ends up playing like Dethy.  Everyone has to hypoclaim and everything revolves around investigation.

There is no investigative role. You are either Mafia, or a Doctor. Mass claiming does nothing. You don't even know what type of Doctor you are.

[popsofctown]

Is doctor type revealed on death?  If so, the weak doc is still investigative, always is.  You would want to chart out everyone's night actions to produce maximum information.  It's painful. 

If doctor type isn't revealed on death then... ok, I guess it's kind of like playing Halo on Fiesta mode (random weapon).

Even if doctor type isn't revealed on death, using a chart with each player's targetting can enhance odds of finding scum.  Possibly even "solve" for scum 100% of the time

[Voltgloss]

I think doctor type isn't revealed on death. 

I can see the issue of Medical Mafia devolving into a chart-the-night-actions logic problem, though.  Which is interesting in its own right but not a typical game of Mafia.

[ehunt]

I've got five hundred dollars on never playing online dominion again, so now I spend all my time lurking on M4.

I want in, and I missed M5 setup. Will there be M6?

[Robz888]

I've got five hundred dollars on never playing online dominion again, so now I spend all my time lurking on M4.

I want in, and I missed M5 setup. Will there be M6?

I'm in.

[Axxle]

O called VI, not sure if he's still planning on it.

well in that case, dibs on moderating the next one.

I call Dibs on VI, a lynch-only reveal game (so if the Cop gets NKed...); if there is sufficient interest at the time.

[Robz888]

I'm pretty sure there will always be interest unless me, Galzria, Volt, Jo, Insomniac, O, and Axxle all die in a plague (and Morgrim, got to have somebody to mislynch first round).

[O]

Still planning on it, but planning for it once 3/4 (or unlikely, if 5 ends before 3/4...)  ends.

If there's large desire to have 3 running I'll consider it.

[Galzria]

I'm pretty sure there will always be interest unless me, Galzria, Volt, Jo, Insomniac, O, and Axxle all die in a plague (and Morgrim, got to have somebody to mislynch first round).

This.

[Robz888]

Still planning on it, but planning for it once 3/4 (or unlikely, if 5 ends before 3/4...)  ends.

If there's large desire to have 3 running I'll consider it.

I'm in.

[Captain_Frisk]

I think I may have a problem.  In.

[O]

ok... I think I got my answer. As soon as *either* MIII/M4 dies up the thread will be opened.

before that... I feel a moral duty to protect Robz and my own personal health.

[Robz888]

Okay, note to all: I will be away this weekend, and may not be as responsive as usual. PLEASE ADD ME AUTOMATICALLY TO ANY AND ALL MAFIA GAMES THAT MAY ARISE. I will try to respond manually, but may not be able to check in all that much. And I don't want to miss any games.

[Morgrim7]

Okay, note to all: I will be away this weekend, and may not be as responsive as usual. PLEASE ADD ME AUTOMATICALLY TO ANY AND ALL MAFIA GAMES THAT MAY ARISE. I will try to respond manually, but may not be able to check in all that much. And I don't want to miss any games.

I was wondering when Robz would ask us to auto include him in any Mafia games. Thats Robz for ya.

[jotheonah]

I vote for an all-Robz mafia game, moderated by Robz, wherein Robz sends himself 9 role PMs and then talks to himself for 70 pages.

[eHalcyon]

I vote for an all-Robz mafia game, moderated by Robz, wherein Robz sends himself 9 role PMs and then talks to himself for 70 pages.

I bet Robz gets lynched first.

[Galzria]

I vote for an all-Robz mafia game, moderated by Robz, wherein Robz sends himself 9 role PMs and then talks to himself for 70 pages.

I bet Robz gets lynched first.

Hard to tell. The only thing that's known is that Robz won't change his vote once cast, even if he's cast his vote on Robz.

[ftl]

All the Robzs will make their initial votes and never change them, thus making it impossible for a majority of Robzs to vote for a single Robz to lynch, thus resulting in No Lynch. So then the Mafia Robzs will kill the Townie Robzs one by one.

[Voltgloss]

Bastard Mafia II is open for registrants.

[popsofctown]

since it's bastard doesn't Robz autojoin at least twice?

[O]

Mafia VI is open to registrants 

[Galzria]

Two regular games and one Bastard game are clearly not enough if they can all be in Night Phase at the same time...

In my opinion anyway.

[O]

Two regular games and one Bastard game are clearly not enough if they can all be in Night Phase at the same time...

In my opinion anyway.

You'll get nothing and like it. (Night is <48 hours anyways).

[Axxle]

Maybe we should get a mafia game started that is only unlocked when all other mafia threads are in the night phase.

[O]

Do we have enough interest for Mafia Marathons (IE, short time periods).

I'd say these would have to take place on a QT, or people could get justifiably pretty annoyed.

[Galzria]

Do we have enough interest for Mafia Marathons (IE, short time periods).

I'd say these would have to take place on a QT, or people could get justifiably pretty annoyed.

Inb4Robz

[Axxle]

Do we have enough interest for Mafia Marathons (IE, short time periods).

I'd say these would have to take place on a QT, or people could get justifiably pretty annoyed.

Yeah!

And we should just play in the isotropic lobby, that won't annoy anyone

[Grujah]

Why is it called Marathon if it lasts shorter? 
I'd expect Marathon to be like.. Month a day.

Should it be like.. Blitz?

[Grujah]

Do we have enough interest for Mafia Marathons (IE, short time periods).

I'd say these would have to take place on a QT, or people could get justifiably pretty annoyed.

Yeah!

And we should just play in the isotropic lobby, that won't annoy anyone

And what when Iso goes down?

ij

[O]

Why is it called Marathon if it lasts shorter? 
I'd expect Marathon to be like.. Month a day.

Should it be like.. Blitz?

IDK, I just stole the idea from Mafiascum. >.>.

And we could like, propose a 10-player game (unranked)...

[Thisisnotasmile]

Someone who knows what they're doing (unfortunately not me) should host a mafia bot in the #councilroom IRC channel and we could play there. Room's always dead anyway.

[Captain_Frisk]

Seriously - Start M6 up!  We're all dead in M5 overnight anyway.

[Thisisnotasmile]

I would just like to point out that I am not interested in any more mafia for a while seeing as rrenaud has released the FS beta list to FS. I am too busy refreshing my inbox, you see.

[Captain_Frisk]

I would just like to point out that I am not interested in any more mafia for a while seeing as rrenaud has released the FS beta list to FS. I am too busy refreshing my inbox, you see.

Just get a bigger monitor so you can refresh your mafia game and your inbox at the same time.

[Kuildeous]

And what when Iso goes down?

Wait, Iso is going down?

</obligatory rrenaud's law>

[Galzria]

Seriously - Start M6 up!  We're all dead in M5 overnight anyway.

In the dead space inside my heart, left by the sleeping Mafia crowd, I've found a wonderful thing called Dominion. You can even play it online at http://dominion.isotropic.org/ !!! I know, Amazing Right!?!? 

[Galzria]

+1 for the title change.

[Captain_Frisk]

+1 for the title change.

Did anyone else come in here for a new topic - and get confused as they read pop's month old intro?

[Galzria]

+1 for the title change.

Did anyone else come in here for a new topic - and get confused as they read pop's month old intro?

Actually, I was browsing the subforum headed to a particular thread that doesn't have new posts, and I saw this one with pages full of reply's and was like... 'How the hell did I miss this thread?!?". Upon opening it, it was immediately clear however.

[Axxle]

I checked my "Show new replies to your posts." and for the life of me couldn't remember posting in a thread with this name.

[jotheonah]

Two regular games and one Bastard game are clearly not enough if they can all be in Night Phase at the same time...

In my opinion anyway.

You'll get nothing and like it. (Night is <48 hours anyways).

It occurs to me that since everyone has a night action in M-V there's not much reason to wait the full 48 hours.  The usual reason is just because you can check who's been online and potentially figure out mafia, right?

[Morgrim7]

+1 for the title change.

Did anyone else come in here for a new topic - and get confused as they read pop's month old intro?

Yes, I did.

[O]

Two regular games and one Bastard game are clearly not enough if they can all be in Night Phase at the same time...

In my opinion anyway.

You'll get nothing and like it. (Night is <48 hours anyways).

It occurs to me that since everyone has a night action in M-V there's not much reason to wait the full 48 hours.  The usual reason is just because you can check who's been online and potentially figure out mafia, right?

go ahead if everyone's PMed their night action.

[jotheonah]

Unfortunately, still waiting on one. Plus some of the pertinent information only exists on my home computer and I'm at work.  But I may jump the gun and start the day this evening.

[Ozle]

If that one was me, you now have it!

[jotheonah]

If that one was me, you now have it!

You're not even playing in Mafia V...

[Thisisnotasmile]

If that one was me, you now have it!

You're not even playing in Mafia V...

I lol'd.

[Ozle]

ahhhh, but am I?

[Galzria]

Haha, why do I get the feeling half of the Mafia players are out and about trolling this subforum.

[Insomniac]

because we are

[Captain_Frisk]

Haha, why do I get the feeling half of the Mafia players are out and about trolling this subforum.

Because we're supposed to be policy lynching Morgrim and O, and there's nothing better to do. 

[Galzria]

because we are

Someone fetch Volt.

[Insomniac]

because we are

Someone fetch Volt.

To restart BM2?

[Ozle]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

[Galzria]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

[Captain_Frisk]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

I don't really care about that one.  Somehow I was lynched with 4 out 11 votes.

[Insomniac]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

I don't really care about that one.  Somehow I was lynched with 4 out 11 votes.

I assumed that ehal counts as 1 not 2 and that robz is playing by pm and voted for you

[Ozle]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

I don't really care about that one.  Somehow I was lynched with 4 out 11 votes.

I assumed that ehal counts as 1 not 2 and that robz is playing by pm and voted for you

Cant really talk about it here, but im assuming something different

[Insomniac]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

I don't really care about that one.  Somehow I was lynched with 4 out 11 votes.

I assumed that ehal counts as 1 not 2 and that robz is playing by pm and voted for you

Cant really talk about it here, but im assuming something different

Uhm its bastard mafia outside communication is allowed

[Ozle]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

I don't really care about that one.  Somehow I was lynched with 4 out 11 votes.

I assumed that ehal counts as 1 not 2 and that robz is playing by pm and voted for you

Cant really talk about it here, but im assuming something different

Uhm its bastard mafia outside communication is allowed

But im far too nice to break rules!

[Insomniac]

Dominion Strategy . com where the forum members without beta access cant go 24 hours without mafia (some forum members anyway)

[Ozle]

Mafia junkies

[eHalcyon]

That should be about to come soon isnt it? Night there should finish soon

One can hope...

I don't really care about that one.  Somehow I was lynched with 4 out 11 votes.

I assumed that ehal counts as 1 not 2 and that robz is playing by pm and voted for you

Cant really talk about it here, but im assuming something different

I was lynched with 5/12.  Blame Volt. 

[Captain_Frisk]

Mafia junkies

Am I the only one who's put off by the Mafia games running?  It seems like my unread posts since last visit are containing a lot less "Dominion Strategy" - but I recognize that I may be in the minority here.

I clearly have a problem.

[Robz888]

Mafia junkies

Am I the only one who's put off by the Mafia games running?  It seems like my unread posts since last visit are containing a lot less "Dominion Strategy" - but I recognize that I may be in the minority here.

I clearly have a problem.

Looks like a case of the Witch calling the Mountebank a cursing attack.

[Galzria]

Mafia junkies

Am I the only one who's put off by the Mafia games running?  It seems like my unread posts since last visit are containing a lot less "Dominion Strategy" - but I recognize that I may be in the minority here.

I clearly have a problem.

Lynch all liars.

In all seriousness, I read that quote like, 10 times wondering WHEN the heck you said that... Then looked at the date and lol'd.

[jotheonah]

I keep telling myself "this is my last mafia game"

at least my iso level is creeping back up to pre-mafia level.

[Galzria]

I actually played 10 games of Dominion today! Went 9-1. Considering the last time I found the time to play on iso was like, 2 months ago, I was quite pleased (was 17-1 last go around too, so 26-2 over last 28. )

[Ozle]

I played one game today....and got totalled by Pops!

And I played one game last week and ran out of time against Frisky

[popsofctown]

Do you mean ran out of time as in you had to leave for an appointment and resigned?  Or that the time bug popped up and Frisk forced resignation for pondering a Pawn for more than 10 seconds and then threw his frisky head back and laughed in deep, raucous bellows?

[Ozle]

He had to resign..... Obviously I stalled enough till he had to go back to work!

[Captain_Frisk]

He had to resign..... Obviously I stalled enough till he had to go back to work!

Yeah - it was getting ugly, I wasn't concentrating, and I had little chance of winning, but it wasn't going to end quickly.

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120619-060617-d4643111.html

[jotheonah]

Donde esta Voltgloss? It's MIV wake up time!

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Volt posted that he would be away from a computer all day today, and would start D3 this evening.

[Captain_Frisk]

Volt posted that he would be away from a computer all day today, and would start D3 this evening.

Yeah - 60 - 180 minutes and counting...

[popsofctown]

I HIT 30 AGAIN YEAAAAAAH


ALL HAIL

[manda2014]

Any chance of a small-ish game starting up any time soon? I'd like to play, but I don't really have the time to devote to reading/analyzing something with as many pages as Mafia IV. Not sure if there's much interest in a smaller game, but if there is, I'm in.

[Ozle]

I HIT 30 AGAIN YEAAAAAAH


ALL HAIL

30 games of mafia?

[Insomniac]

Any chance of a small-ish game starting up any time soon? I'd like to play, but I don't really have the time to devote to reading/analyzing something with as many pages as Mafia IV. Not sure if there's much interest in a smaller game, but if there is, I'm in.

Play bastard mafia

[popsofctown]

I HIT 30 AGAIN YEAAAAAAH


ALL HAIL

30 games of mafia?

rank 30 on iso

[Voltgloss]

Any chance of a small-ish game starting up any time soon? I'd like to play, but I don't really have the time to devote to reading/analyzing something with as many pages as Mafia IV. Not sure if there's much interest in a smaller game, but if there is, I'm in.

I wouldn't mind running a smaller, newbie-friendly game after M-IV and BM-II conclude.

[Robz888]

Any chance of a small-ish game starting up any time soon? I'd like to play, but I don't really have the time to devote to reading/analyzing something with as many pages as Mafia IV. Not sure if there's much interest in a smaller game, but if there is, I'm in.

I wouldn't mind running a smaller, newbie-friendly game after M-IV and BM-II conclude.

I'm in.

[manda2014]

Any chance of a small-ish game starting up any time soon? I'd like to play, but I don't really have the time to devote to reading/analyzing something with as many pages as Mafia IV. Not sure if there's much interest in a smaller game, but if there is, I'm in.

I wouldn't mind running a smaller, newbie-friendly game after M-IV and BM-II conclude.

That would be fantastic.

[eHalcyon]

I hereby request to run BMIV (or whatever number we end up on), probably after MVI ends.  I've got 13 unique roles and should be able to handle 14-20 people.  It would be BM because nobody will be vanilla, everyone will have multiple win conditions and it won't be balanced at all.  But it should be hilarious and fun.

[Captain_Frisk]

I hereby request to run BMIV (or whatever number we end up on), probably after MVI ends.  I've got 13 unique roles and should be able to handle 14-20 people.  It would be BM because nobody will be vanilla, everyone will have multiple win conditions and it won't be balanced at all.  But it should be hilarious and fun.

In to all of the above.

[Morgrim7]

I hereby request to run BMIV (or whatever number we end up on), probably after MVI ends.  I've got 13 unique roles and should be able to handle 14-20 people.  It would be BM because nobody will be vanilla, everyone will have multiple win conditions and it won't be balanced at all.  But it should be hilarious and fun.

In to all of the above.

[Galzria]

I hereby request to run BMIV (or whatever number we end up on), probably after MVI ends.  I've got 13 unique roles and should be able to handle 14-20 people.  It would be BM because nobody will be vanilla, everyone will have multiple win conditions and it won't be balanced at all.  But it should be hilarious and fun.

In to all of the above.

[Robz888]

In.

[Voltgloss]

I hereby request to run BMIV (or whatever number we end up on), probably after MVI ends.  I've got 13 unique roles and should be able to handle 14-20 people.  It would be BM because nobody will be vanilla, everyone will have multiple win conditions and it won't be balanced at all.  But it should be hilarious and fun.

Vote: RobzIn.

[jotheonah]

so in for role madness.

[eHalcyon]

No sign ups yet!  Will make a thread later.  Again, it will be most likely after MVI ends, because that one has a whopping 19 people and will probably take a lot of focus on its own.

All roles are Dominion themed and have -mostly- new abilities, at least compared to what we've seen so far on f.ds.

I'm still considering adding more roles to the ones I've already thought up... 

[Eevee]

No sign ups yet!  Will make a thread later.  Again, it will be most likely after MVI ends, because that one has a whopping 19 people and will probably take a lot of focus on its own.

All roles are Dominion themed and have -mostly- new abilities, at least compared to what we've seen so far on f.ds.

I'm still considering adding more roles to the ones I've already thought up... 

This sounds awesome, I'll def play too

[Grujah]

need to test somthing.

somerthing*.
ko

[Grujah]

Yup, it seems if you edit really fast it doesn't show up (that you have edited*). Not alarming though.

Would be good if it were disabled in this subforum, but if timeframe is short (it seems few minutes) than its not a problem at all.

Ok, yeah, its probably 2 minutes.

[Insomniac]

Yup, it seems if you edit really fast it doesn't show up (that you have edited*). Not alarming though.

Would be good if it were disabled in this subforum, but if timeframe is short (it seems few minutes) than its not a problem at all.

Twas pointed out by theory a while ago, mods have been trusting players not to do it

[Galzria]

Yup, it seems if you edit really fast it doesn't show up (that you have edited*). Not alarming though.

Would be good if it were disabled in this subforum, but if timeframe is short (it seems few minutes) than its not a problem at all.

Theory has confirmed this previously. I believe it's a 20 second window.

[Galzria]

Ninja'd

[Ozle]

Standard forum practice I believe

Wait, am I allowed to post in here even though its not night in my Mafia game?! Hehe

[eHalcyon]

Standard forum practice I believe

Wait, am I allowed to post in here even though its not night in my Mafia game?! Hehe

Walking by, eHalcyon noticed Ozle conversing at the entrance to one of the more popular joints in town.  However, the word was that this particular bar and lounge only opened its doors to the public after the sun went down.  What was Ozle doing there when it was still so bright out?  Who was he talking to?

Curiosity piqued, eHalcyon approached.  Despite the glaring sun, the world suddenly seemed darker.  Grujah was there, hair frizzled and eyebrows still not grown back from his last crazy experiment.  What was he testing this time? 

Close by was Insomniac, though it was hard to recognize him with his face all wrapped up.  Did he fancy himself some sort of ninja?

And there was Galzria, discussing windows of all things!  Was he a thief planning a heist?  Maybe a stained glass enthusiast?

Something foul was afoot, and eHalcyon had no intention of getting involved with such shady characters.  He backed away slowly before this strange company could notice that he had spotted their clandestine meeting...

[Insomniac]

Why is there no mafia with all this infighting going on over a point counter...?

[popsofctown]

point tracker players are the informed minority.  Obvscumz

[Insomniac]

point tracker players are the informed minority.  Obvscumz

I lold

[Galzria]

Ssstuuump??

[Grujah]

Next one? I'd like to host. 

[eHalcyon]

Next one? I'd like to host. 

There's still MIV, MV and MVI going.  BMIII as well, and Resistance II is starting.  And I called hosting the next game already!

To be specific, I called the next BM, but I'm tempted to make it a regular M game because I want to see how people deal with the role madness in a serious game.

[Grujah]

Yeah, I meant when one finishes. K, I am in queue after you than.

[Voltgloss]

As mentioned upthread, I would like to host a newbie-friendly mafia game after M-IV ends.  It would use the standard 2-of-4 setup used in M-I and M-II, and player slots will if at all possible go to new players or players who have only participated in 1 mafia game to date.  How to people feel about that running concurrently with eHalcyon's planned role-madness* game?  I'm kinda anticipating there will be very little overlap between the player bases - maybe no more than 3 "experienced" players, assuming enough newbies and near-newbies sign up?

*Incidentally, I fully concur with your NOT labeling it Bastard Mafia.  Let's see some serious role madness up ins. 

[Robz888]

I would like to be in for the role madness game, and the newbie game, and any other game.

Please! I need to continue my record of participating in 100% of Forum games.

[Galzria]

I would like to be in for the role madness game, and the newbie game, and any other game.

Please! I need to continue my record of participating in 100% of Forum games.

You WILL slip and miss one! And when you do, I'll be right there to catch up to you (having only missed M-I myself).

On that note, I'm more of a newb than Robz, so /inb4Robz.

[Grujah]

I had a role madness idea where every role is also incompetent in some way.

Other ideas I'd like to host is one where Mafia chooses stuff, like:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Pick_Your_Poison
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Chosen_Mafia

[popsofctown]

Remove cop from the 2 of 4.  It's just stupid amounts of town power. 

[Ozle]

I think the amount of forum mafia now is too much. There are 3 current mafia games going on, plus a BM and another misc game!, and they are just causing each other to slow right down, people just dont have the time to read and post in all of them and so they all suffer!

I would probably think we have one normal, one BM and one other going on a time only, otherwise people will need to spend thier whole lives on the forum just to keep up!

[Voltgloss]

Remove cop from the 2 of 4.  It's just stupid amounts of town power.

I hear you... but on the other hand it (along with doctor) is one of the iconic Mafia roles.  For newbies, might it be best for their first game to include a cop (or at least have a cop as one of the possible roles) so they can get used to thinking about cop (and doctor, and jailkeeper) interactions?

From a pure power-balance perspective I agree and would be inclined to switch Cop with, say, Tracker.  But I am worried Tracker will be a bit on the complicated side for new players.

[Axxle]

Remove cop from the 2 of 4.  It's just stupid amounts of town power.

I think newbie games should just show newbies the ropes to the game.  It doesn't have to be balanced.

[Grujah]

I think the amount of forum mafia now is too much. There are 3 current mafia games going on, plus a BM and another misc game!, and they are just causing each other to slow right down, people just dont have the time to read and post in all of them and so they all suffer!

I would probably think we have one normal, one BM and one other going on a time only, otherwise people will need to spend thier whole lives on the forum just to keep up!

Thing is, you really need your mafia fix when you die in one

[Axxle]

I think the amount of forum mafia now is too much. There are 3 current mafia games going on, plus a BM and another misc game!, and they are just causing each other to slow right down, people just dont have the time to read and post in all of them and so they all suffer!

I would probably think we have one normal, one BM and one other going on a time only, otherwise people will need to spend thier whole lives on the forum just to keep up!

Thing is, you really need your mafia fix when you die in one

Mafia Queue

Queue up if you die or you can otherwise take another game.

[Ozle]

I think the amount of forum mafia now is too much. There are 3 current mafia games going on, plus a BM and another misc game!, and they are just causing each other to slow right down, people just dont have the time to read and post in all of them and so they all suffer!

I would probably think we have one normal, one BM and one other going on a time only, otherwise people will need to spend thier whole lives on the forum just to keep up!

Thing is, you really need your mafia fix when you die in one

Yeah, and the trouble is, people will sign up before they die just in case they die early, and they dont want to have to wait around for another one.

Which then causes the problem I noted above, too many running about.

[eHalcyon]

*Incidentally, I fully concur with your NOT labeling it Bastard Mafia.  Let's see some serious role madness up ins. 

Aye aye.  The main reason was just that I doubt it's balanced.  I'm not sure which team would have the advantage though!   How about labelling it "Role Madness" and leaving it at that?

[cayvie]

Look, if you want to limit anything, there should just be a limit to the number of separate games a player can be in at one time.

[Grujah]

Look, if you want to limit anything, there should just be a limit to the number of separate games a player can be in at one time.

This. Sorry Robz.

Though mods could enforce this on their own discretion.

[popsofctown]

Cop shouldn't be an iconic role, because it's a bad role.

Broken setups set a bad precedent because they reward different kinds of play.  No-lynching in follow the cop is just something you can't do in real setups.  etc.

You could keep it from being a bad example of what comes later by making the cop unprotectable so that the setup is less gameable, something that's common in advanced games.  But it makes more sense just to not include the role at all.

[Axxle]

"You've been invited to the Dominion beta"

Goodbye mafia!

[Insomniac]

Removed, not sure allowed to talk about fight club here

[Robz888]

Me too! Hello Beta and Iso and Mafia, more like it.

[Axxle]

Me too! Hello Beta and Iso and Mafia and Mafia and Mafia, more like it.

FTFY

[cayvie]

How do people feel about steganography in mafia, like what was done in M3, spelling out your role name with the first letter of paragraphs?

How about encryption?

[Galzria]

How do people feel about steganography in mafia, like what was done in M3, spelling out your role name with the first letter of paragraphs?

How about encryption?

Honestly, I've got enough other stuff to pay attention to. I don't have the energy to see stuff like that, and honestly it's just as likely to be harmful to town as helpful.

So... Don't care for it overall I suppose.

[Axxle]

As a mod I'd be against cryptography just because it will allow the mafia to converse during the day.

That said, we did to a tiny bit in MI, where Ozle would tell me the results of his investigation in the first post of the day (we ran it by the mod first)

[eHalcyon]

How do people feel about steganography in mafia, like what was done in M3, spelling out your role name with the first letter of paragraphs?

How about encryption?

FWIW the steganography (I did not know this word before) didn't come into play during the actual game.  I was prepared to pull it out if anyone counterclaimed, though it would probably be easy to write off as a Mafia trick.  I think it was a fun thing to do once.  I wouldn't try it again, especially because of all the WIFOM that could go with it.

I'm against encryption.  Axxle just described something with Ozle in MI; I would be against that.  If a group is supposed to have daychat, they'll get it.  Encryption is just a way around that rule.  OTOH, it would be interesting if daychat was disallowed EXCEPT for encryption.  And then everyone is overanalyzing every post trying to break the codes.

[ftl]

Heh, I didn't notice the communication in M1 at all, what was the tell, Axxle?

Seconded/thirded/nth on the no-encryption; nothing wrong with daychat if some group should have it, just don't bother making town overanalyze every little word, it would be so annoying.

[Eevee]

How do people feel about steganography in mafia, like what was done in M3, spelling out your role name with the first letter of paragraphs?

How about encryption?

FWIW the steganography (I did not know this word before) didn't come into play during the actual game.  I was prepared to pull it out if anyone counterclaimed, though it would probably be easy to write off as a Mafia trick.  I think it was a fun thing to do once.  I wouldn't try it again, especially because of all the WIFOM that could go with it.

I'm against encryption.  Axxle just described something with Ozle in MI; I would be against that.  If a group is supposed to have daychat, they'll get it.  Encryption is just a way around that rule.  OTOH, it would be interesting if daychat was disallowed EXCEPT for encryption.  And then everyone is overanalyzing every post trying to break the codes.

We had codewords for rolecop investigation results with yuma and voltgloss in in MIII. At the time I didnt realize it could be scummy (see what I did there), but now that I'm less busy with being amazed at someone having the creativity to suggest it, yeah, definitely seems iffy. There should be a clear ruling about this imo* (and I would prefer for it to be prohibited, not passionate about the issue though). I sort of want to apologize for us three although the town won anyways and I doubt it decreased anyones enjoyment in the game.

*If its already in the rules, I would suggest some clarification or rewording because I read the rules and didnt realize we were breaking them and I doubt yuma or Voltgloss were doing it intentionally either.

[eHalcyon]

How do people feel about steganography in mafia, like what was done in M3, spelling out your role name with the first letter of paragraphs?

How about encryption?

FWIW the steganography (I did not know this word before) didn't come into play during the actual game.  I was prepared to pull it out if anyone counterclaimed, though it would probably be easy to write off as a Mafia trick.  I think it was a fun thing to do once.  I wouldn't try it again, especially because of all the WIFOM that could go with it.

I'm against encryption.  Axxle just described something with Ozle in MI; I would be against that.  If a group is supposed to have daychat, they'll get it.  Encryption is just a way around that rule.  OTOH, it would be interesting if daychat was disallowed EXCEPT for encryption.  And then everyone is overanalyzing every post trying to break the codes.

We had codewords for rolecop investigation results with yuma and voltgloss in in MIII. At the time I didnt realize it could be scummy (see what I did there), but now that I'm less busy with being amazed at someone having the creativity to suggest it, yeah, definitely seems iffy. There should be a clear ruling about this imo* (and I would prefer for it to be prohibited, not passionate about the issue though). I sort of want to apologize for us three although the town won anyways and I doubt it decreased anyones enjoyment in the game.

*If its already in the rules, I would suggest some clarification or rewording because I read the rules and didnt realize we were breaking them and I doubt yuma or Voltgloss were doing it intentionally either.

What were the codewords?  Didn't notice it during the game.

But I think that that was actually against the rules.  IIRC, there was indeed a rule against encryption (I thought about it before doing my JAILKEEPER acronym) and I would say that using codewords is encryption.

[Eevee]

How do people feel about steganography in mafia, like what was done in M3, spelling out your role name with the first letter of paragraphs?

How about encryption?

FWIW the steganography (I did not know this word before) didn't come into play during the actual game.  I was prepared to pull it out if anyone counterclaimed, though it would probably be easy to write off as a Mafia trick.  I think it was a fun thing to do once.  I wouldn't try it again, especially because of all the WIFOM that could go with it.

I'm against encryption.  Axxle just described something with Ozle in MI; I would be against that.  If a group is supposed to have daychat, they'll get it.  Encryption is just a way around that rule.  OTOH, it would be interesting if daychat was disallowed EXCEPT for encryption.  And then everyone is overanalyzing every post trying to break the codes.

We had codewords for rolecop investigation results with yuma and voltgloss in in MIII. At the time I didnt realize it could be scummy (see what I did there), but now that I'm less busy with being amazed at someone having the creativity to suggest it, yeah, definitely seems iffy. There should be a clear ruling about this imo* (and I would prefer for it to be prohibited, not passionate about the issue though). I sort of want to apologize for us three although the town won anyways and I doubt it decreased anyones enjoyment in the game.

*If its already in the rules, I would suggest some clarification or rewording because I read the rules and didnt realize we were breaking them and I doubt yuma or Voltgloss were doing it intentionally either.

What were the codewords?  Didn't notice it during the game.

But I think that that was actually against the rules.  IIRC, there was indeed a rule against encryption (I thought about it before doing my JAILKEEPER acronym) and I would say that using codewords is encryption.

We changed them every night to make it impossible for you guys. It was the first word of yumas first post, here is a sample codebook, this was for day 3 or something.

Alright=vanilla townie
wow=jailer
Holy=cop
Jeez=doctor
well=mason
I=serial killer
If=vigilante
That=role not in codebook

If it is a one-shot ability I will end the sentence with an exclamation mark (!)

Like you suggested if I use the word interesting, in my next three sentences, the third word will spell out the first three letters, exactly like you did for jester.

Again I'm sorry, I didnt realize it was prohibited. "I swear I only did it once.."

[Voltgloss]

It never even crossed my mind that that sort of signaling would fall under the "no encryption" rule, but if the community at large feels it does, I don't have a problem with it being clearly prohibited going forward.

Not that it helped us, anyway.

[eHalcyon]

I would consider it encryption, but whatever, we still won.

Not even sure it's that useful to know.

[Eevee]

I would consider it encryption, but whatever, we still won.

Not even sure it's that useful to know.

Well, useful not, a clear ruling "prohibited or not" would still be good imo.

Aww thinking about MIII opens up the wounds, how did we lose that. :/

[eHalcyon]

I would consider it encryption, but whatever, we still won.

Not even sure it's that useful to know.

Well, useful not, a clear ruling "prohibited or not" would still be good imo.

Aww thinking about MIII opens up the wounds, how did we lose that. :/

Shuffle luck.

[Voltgloss]

I would consider it encryption, but whatever, we still won.

Not even sure it's that useful to know.

Well, useful not, a clear ruling "prohibited or not" would still be good imo.

Aww thinking about MIII opens up the wounds, how did we lose that. :/

Shuffle luck.

On the post-Morgrim-lynch nightkill, yeah, but I can definitely see where I at least made gameplay mistakes along the way.  Food for thought for next time, it all is. 

[Eevee]

I would consider it encryption, but whatever, we still won.

Not even sure it's that useful to know.

Well, useful not, a clear ruling "prohibited or not" would still be good imo.

Aww thinking about MIII opens up the wounds, how did we lose that. :/

Shuffle luck.

On the post-Morgrim-lynch nightkill, yeah, but I can definitely see where I at least made gameplay mistakes along the way.  Food for thought for next time, it all is. 

Yeah, even when the game was still going I felt like I played the entire game pretty bad. And we as a team screwed up the day that ended with Volt getting lynched oh so bad, OH WHY WHY didnt we claim something. :/ Live and learn!

[Axxle]

Axxle just described something with Ozle in MI; I would be against that.  If a group is supposed to have daychat, they'll get it.  Encryption is just a way around that rule.  OTOH, it would be interesting if daychat was disallowed EXCEPT for encryption.  And then everyone is overanalyzing every post trying to break the codes.

It was something incredibly brief and simple.  "If he has a power role and we dont find out till morning and we cannot communicate, if he is a cop ill spell your name with a lower case a, if he is the doctor ill spell your namewhen i first mention it with only one x"

Like I said I made sure Pops was ok with it, because honestly I would not have allowed that as mod, but since Ozle wanted to I just went along with it.

[eHalcyon]

Axxle just described something with Ozle in MI; I would be against that.  If a group is supposed to have daychat, they'll get it.  Encryption is just a way around that rule.  OTOH, it would be interesting if daychat was disallowed EXCEPT for encryption.  And then everyone is overanalyzing every post trying to break the codes.

It was something incredibly brief and simple.  "If he has a power role and we dont find out till morning and we cannot communicate, if he is a cop ill spell your name with a lower case a, if he is the doctor ill spell your namewhen i first mention it with only one x"

Like I said I made sure Pops was ok with it, because honestly I would not have allowed that as mod, but since Ozle wanted to I just went along with it.

lynch all "typos"

[Galzria]

Psh. You're all newbs. 

Keep it simple:

 

Sounds good! Look for my suspicion ranking--if I make one, it will be in order to tell you that I learned we should not go after Voltgloss.

[Robz888]

Bam! Simple code. That I guess might be illegal, now that I think about it. Is it?

[Eevee]

Bam! Simple code. That I guess might be illegal, now that I think about it. Is it?

Well that would be mafia communicating during the day, which - given they dont have day chat - feels against the spirit if not the letter of the rulebook? But I would guess its up to the mod of the particular game to decide this.

[Insomniac]

It is technically illegal. I wasn't that stoked when I was told about the jailkeeper thing the thing is as a mod I'm not going to read every single post to see if there is a hidden message there especially since even if I find one it doesn't mean it was intended. So while it is against the rules it is super hard to enforce. The rules in question are

9. Do not edit or delete posts. We don't want some players having more information than others.  If you want to clarify posts, feel free to double post.

1. Bold, blue text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.

[Ozle]

Always makes me chuckle when I see the name insomniac in a post about night time talking.

Anyways, yeah, I did it after checking with the Mod, had no idea of the levels to go to though, and it didn't help as I got no results and then lynched the next day anyway!

mafia Rolecop is not what what you want in your first ever game of mafia!

[Grujah]

Idea:

Robz is in every game.
f.ds has a history of lynching town D1.
We lynch Robz D1 every game.
We are bound to hit scum D1 eventually.

[Axxle]

Robz is in every game.

You aren't allowed to discuss games in progress 

[Galzria]

Mafia has taken over my life:

 http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

I've cracked Top 10 for most time on-line...

Which wouldn't be terribly noticeable, except each of the other 9 people have AT LEAST a 5 month jump on me from when we registered.

...

And still I gain...

[popsofctown]

Someone pmed me about codes while I was modding mafia 1.  My rules are:

1. No use of a foreign language
2. No mathematical cryptography
3. No use of post timestamps for signalling

If someone wants to come up with keywords for a group of predefined messages it's ok with me.  It's possible to get caught because it will sound awkward in your post, and the marginal benefit is small.  It's not like daytalk where mafia can write defenses for eachother.

[Robz888]

Mafia has taken over my life:

 http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

I've cracked Top 10 for most time on-line...

Which wouldn't be terribly noticeable, except each of the other 9 people have AT LEAST a 5 month jump on me from when we registered.

...

And still I gain...

Congrats!

I'm happy to have made the Top 10 Most Respected, despite the fact that Forum games don't count for post or respect totals (nor should they). See, my mafia playing does not interfere with my Dominion analyzing!

[Insomniac]

Respect gained from forum games affect your respect...

[Axxle]

Mafia has taken over my life:

 http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

I've cracked Top 10 for most time on-line...

Which wouldn't be terribly noticeable, except each of the other 9 people have AT LEAST a 5 month jump on me from when we registered.

...

And still I gain...

Congrats!

I'm happy to have made the Top 10 Most Respected, despite the fact that Forum games don't count for post or respect totals (nor should they). See, my mafia playing does not interfere with my Dominion analyzing!

I think they do count for respect totals. For example I upvoted one of Inrobzniac's posts and it shows as +1, giving him an infinite post:respect ratio!

edit: ninja'd

[theory]

I'm going to try disabling the Respect system altogether in the forum games forum and see how that works out.  It just hides the buttons, it doesn't delete any +1's you've already earned here.

I'll also implement this change soon so that the Top 10 Topics (by replies and views) on the stats page isn't just pure Mafia.

[Insomniac]

Would people be happier if I just disabled the Respect system altogether in the forum games forum?

Not particularily IMO somethings in this forum deserve respect IE moding a game, (not just saying because I have modded one)

[Galzria]

Respect gained from forum games affect your respect...

Oooh, Robz was lying?

Vote: Robz888

[Robz888]

I'm going to try disabling the Respect system altogether in the forum games forum and see how that works out.  It just hides the buttons, it doesn't delete any +1's you've already earned here.

I'll also implement this change soon so that the Top 10 Topics (by replies and views) on the stats page isn't just pure Mafia.

Oh, okay. Didn't know! I support the change.

[Axxle]

Would people be happier if I just disabled the Respect system altogether in the forum games forum?

Not particularily IMO somethings in this forum deserve respect IE moding a game, (not just saying because I have modded one)

+1

[Robz888]

But this is a forum about Dominion, and while I don't believe the mafia playing undermines the Dominion discussion in any way (it probably strengthens it; I check the forum topics way more, now), I can understand that we want respect here to derive from Dominion knowledge and analysis. And particularly clever jokes.

[Axxle]

But this is a forum about Dominion, and while I don't believe the mafia playing undermines the Dominion discussion in any way (it probably strengthens it; I check the forum topics way more, now), I can understand that we want respect here to derive from Dominion knowledge and analysis. And particularly clever jokes.

+1

[eHalcyon]

It is technically illegal. I wasn't that stoked when I was told about the jailkeeper thing the thing is as a mod I'm not going to read every single post to see if there is a hidden message there especially since even if I find one it doesn't mean it was intended. So while it is against the rules it is super hard to enforce. The rules in question are

9. Do not edit or delete posts. We don't want some players having more information than others.  If you want to clarify posts, feel free to double post.

1. Bold, blue text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.

Sorry about that.  Luckily it never came into play during the game then!  I was more under the impression that encryption applies to passing secret messages between players.  I would be OK if a player decided to leave encrypted notes that nobody else could decrypt.  If he later says, "I had this here all along", well it's legitimate not to trust it at all.

[Insomniac]

Mafia has taken over my life:

 http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

I've cracked Top 10 for most time on-line...

Which wouldn't be terribly noticeable, except each of the other 9 people have AT LEAST a 5 month jump on me from when we registered.

...

And still I gain...

Congrats!

I'm happy to have made the Top 10 Most Respected, despite the fact that Forum games don't count for post or respect totals (nor should they). See, my mafia playing does not interfere with my Dominion analyzing!

I think they do count for respect totals. For example I upvoted one of Inrobzniac's posts and it shows as +1, giving him an infinite post:respect ratio!

edit: ninja'd

For the record Inrobzniac is a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything

[Insomniac]

It is technically illegal. I wasn't that stoked when I was told about the jailkeeper thing the thing is as a mod I'm not going to read every single post to see if there is a hidden message there especially since even if I find one it doesn't mean it was intended. So while it is against the rules it is super hard to enforce. The rules in question are

9. Do not edit or delete posts. We don't want some players having more information than others.  If you want to clarify posts, feel free to double post.

1. Bold, blue text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.

Sorry about that.  Luckily it never came into play during the game then!  I was more under the impression that encryption applies to passing secret messages between players.  I would be OK if a player decided to leave encrypted notes that nobody else could decrypt.  If he later says, "I had this here all along", well it's legitimate not to trust it at all.

Fair enough its just that say neither you or I are in a game, I PM you a decryption key like the first post of mafia I will reveal you my role use this decryption key to find it out. Its information you have that others dont. This is ALSO true of anyone who caught your jailkeeiiper message

[jotheonah]

It is technically illegal. I wasn't that stoked when I was told about the jailkeeper thing the thing is as a mod I'm not going to read every single post to see if there is a hidden message there especially since even if I find one it doesn't mean it was intended. So while it is against the rules it is super hard to enforce. The rules in question are

9. Do not edit or delete posts. We don't want some players having more information than others.  If you want to clarify posts, feel free to double post.

1. Bold, blue text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.

Sorry about that.  Luckily it never came into play during the game then!  I was more under the impression that encryption applies to passing secret messages between players.  I would be OK if a player decided to leave encrypted notes that nobody else could decrypt.  If he later says, "I had this here all along", well it's legitimate not to trust it at all.

Fair enough its just that say neither you or I are in a game, I PM you a decryption key like the first post of mafia I will reveal you my role use this decryption key to find it out. Its information you have that others dont. This is ALSO true of anyone who caught your jailkeeiiper message

But that's different. In the decryption key case, or with an agreed upon code, the mafia are using their night talk to concoct a pseudo-Day talk, a power they shouldn't have. But if a townie uses code to softclaim so they can point to it later as proof, no one has more information than anyone else. The mafia is as likely to catch it as the town.

[Insomniac]

Unless some players take the time to look for hidden codes in everything and find it at which point those players have more information than others, and that isn't the kind of analysis I want players to waste their time on.

[jotheonah]

Oh, so players who read carefully have more information than players who skim? How unfair!

In Dominion, players who mentally keep track of the number of Provinces everyone has have an unfair advantage over the ones who buy greencards at random! I cry foul!

[Ozle]

Oh, so players who read carefully have more information than players who skim? How unfair!

In Dominion, players who mentally keep track of the number of Provinces everyone has have an unfair advantage over the ones who buy greencards at random! I cry foul!

I play Mafia with a Post Count Extention that analysies all this for me

[Insomniac]

Oh, so players who read carefully have more information than players who skim? How unfair!

In Dominion, players who mentally keep track of the number of Provinces everyone has have an unfair advantage over the ones who buy greencards at random! I cry foul!

I'm not saying that you shouldn't read deeply, but Its a waste of time to try to decrypt messages that may or may not be there, it goes to the analyzing words instead of content this form is so bad at.

Oh, so players who read carefully have more information than players who skim? How unfair!

In Dominion, players who mentally keep track of the number of Provinces everyone has have an unfair advantage over the ones who buy greencards at random! I cry foul!

I play Mafia with a Post Count Extention that analysies all this for me

lol

[Voltgloss]

Folks, after doing some further research, I think we're stretching the "no encryption" rule way beyond its original intent.

See http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Game&oldid=78757, #15 under the "Moderators" section, for the no-encryption rule.  This links to http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2178604; specifically, see post #155 and what follows, for the situation that the "no encryption" rule was designed to prevent.

When this rule says "encryption," it means literally a letter-for-letter substitution cipher. 

[Ozle]

While we are here

I dont suppose anyone knows anything about computer netowrks and is in the leatherhead area?
I am still at work and its nearly 11pm because the current BT engineer we got here is a fuckwit who keeps messing things up

Put me in a right foul mood!

[cayvie]

Folks, after doing some further research, I think we're stretching the "no encryption" rule way beyond its original intent.

See http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Game&oldid=78757, #15 under the "Moderators" section, for the no-encryption rule.  This links to http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2178604; specifically, see post #155 and what follows, for the situation that the "no encryption" rule was designed to prevent.

When this rule says "encryption," it means literally a letter-for-letter substitution cipher.

This is irrelevant.

Each mod gets to decide what rules mean for their own games.

[Voltgloss]

Folks, after doing some further research, I think we're stretching the "no encryption" rule way beyond its original intent.

See http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Game&oldid=78757, #15 under the "Moderators" section, for the no-encryption rule.  This links to http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2178604; specifically, see post #155 and what follows, for the situation that the "no encryption" rule was designed to prevent.

When this rule says "encryption," it means literally a letter-for-letter substitution cipher.

This is irrelevant.

Each mod gets to decide what rules mean for their own games.

Agree it's up to each mod to decide.
Disagree it's irrelevant.  Because relevancy is up to the mod to decide. 

[cayvie]

Folks, after doing some further research, I think we're stretching the "no encryption" rule way beyond its original intent.

See http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Game&oldid=78757, #15 under the "Moderators" section, for the no-encryption rule.  This links to http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2178604; specifically, see post #155 and what follows, for the situation that the "no encryption" rule was designed to prevent.

When this rule says "encryption," it means literally a letter-for-letter substitution cipher.

This is irrelevant.

Each mod gets to decide what rules mean for their own games.

Agree it's up to each mod to decide.
Disagree it's irrelevant.  Because relevancy is up to the mod to decide.

[popsofctown]

Oh, so players who read carefully have more information than players who skim? How unfair!

In Dominion, players who mentally keep track of the number of Provinces everyone has have an unfair advantage over the ones who buy greencards at random! I cry foul!

I play Mafia with a Post Count Extention that analysies all this for me

This post made me realize the respect buttons were removed +1 Mafia points!!

[Axxle]

Err... so not this post?

I'm going to try disabling the Respect system altogether in the forum games forum and see how that works out.  It just hides the buttons, it doesn't delete any +1's you've already earned here.

I'll also implement this change soon so that the Top 10 Topics (by replies and views) on the stats page isn't just pure Mafia.

[eHalcyon]

I think I may start the RMM thread sometime during the incoming MVI night.

[ehunt]

where is O?

[O]

where is O?

here. Why?

[Grujah]

any mobster up for dominion?
(Iso, FunSocket)

Lol, scumslip.

Any mafia-player*

[eHalcyon]

Spectator QT for RMMI is available!  Anyone interested?  PM me for link...

[Captain_Frisk]

I with BM3 gone - and Ozle refusing to put forth Murder Mystery - I hearby demand another BMod game.

[Ozle]

Spectator QT for RMMI is available!  Anyone interested?  PM me for link...

I know some of the roles already so id better not!

[eHalcyon]

Spectator QT for RMMI is available!  Anyone interested?  PM me for link...

I know some of the roles already so id better not!

Nobody else in there.  Sad.

[ftl]

I've been in most of the others, but I'm sitting out that one and the newbie one.

RMMI just seems so hopeless to speculate on.

[ftl]

Oh, btw, random comment - is it true that so far, in all the regular (non-bastard) Mafia games out there, the only Mafia that have been lynched without direct power role help were  O in MIV and (someone) on day 3 or MIII? Or is there someone else I'm missing?

[Dsell]

I think you are meaning Volt, who was mafia and lynched day 4 in MIII. I'm pretty sure it was not directly the result of a PR. eHal had a lucky jail but we didn't know whether eevee was the killer or victim.

Also, you should join the newb mafia QT! It's lonely over there. 

[ftl]

I haven't been following it. I need to cut down on my forum time a little bit, and not spending too much time following mafia games that I'm not in is an easy thing to cut.

[eHalcyon]

I haven't been following it. I need to cut down on my forum time a little bit, and not spending too much time following mafia games that I'm not in is an easy thing to cut.

Pseudo +1

(And if only I could: sudo plus-one)

[Dsell]

I tell myself that I won't follow them.


And then I follow them all. 

[Ozle]

*twiddles thumbs*

[Morgrim7]

*twiddles thumbs*

*yawns*

[Ozle]

Time well spent writing the rules and flavour for Mafia Murder Mystery!

[cayvie]

I think you are meaning Volt, who was mafia and lynched day 4 in MIII. I'm pretty sure it was not directly the result of a PR. eHal had a lucky jail but we didn't know whether eevee was the killer or victim.

Also, you should join the newb mafia QT! It's lonely over there. 

I asked for it but Volt didn't send it to me

[Ozle]

I think you are meaning Volt, who was mafia and lynched day 4 in MIII. I'm pretty sure it was not directly the result of a PR. eHal had a lucky jail but we didn't know whether eevee was the killer or victim.

Also, you should join the newb mafia QT! It's lonely over there. 

I asked for it but Volt didn't send it to me

Thats because we are all talking about you there!

[Dsell]

Ha! You should join too Ozle! I think Volt meant to send it to you, Cayvie, he said on the QT itself that me and you were the only ones who'd asked for it. I can send it if you don't have it.

[Ozle]

Ha! You should join too Ozle! I think Volt meant to send it to you, Cayvie, he said on the QT itself that me and you were the only ones who'd asked for it. I can send it if you don't have it.

Heh, all my time is currently invested in mvi! And fine tuning bmmmmI !

[Voltgloss]

I think you are meaning Volt, who was mafia and lynched day 4 in MIII. I'm pretty sure it was not directly the result of a PR. eHal had a lucky jail but we didn't know whether eevee was the killer or victim.

Also, you should join the newb mafia QT! It's lonely over there. 

I asked for it but Volt didn't send it to me

Cayvie, I tried to send on the 16th - just now resent.  Let me know here if you still haven't received.

[Morgrim7]

Is this the unpopular time for the forum? Even the mafia games are silent.

[Ozle]

Midday sunday here, on a day with grand prix, open championship, tdf finale and Eng vs SA at cricket!

[Eevee]

Is this the unpopular time for the forum? Even the mafia games are silent.

My morning routine of checking all the new mafia posts on ipad from bed was severely interrupted.. because there were no posts.

[Galzria]

Midday sunday here, on a day with grand prix, open championship, tdf finale and Eng vs SA at cricket!

I've got all that when I get home this afternoon, but first!: I'm goin' running with 15,000 people!

[cayvie]

I want to nominate theorel for the title "so good at t opology" after the events of Day 2, Mafia VI.

[theorel]

It's a shame I was trying to get a doctorate in topology.  If only it had been "t opology", I probably could have managed it

[eHalcyon]

I want to nominate theorel for the title "so good at t opology" after the events of Day 2, Mafia VI.

I feel dumb.  I don't understand this joke at all.

[cayvie]

I want to nominate theorel for the title "so good at t opology" after the events of Day 2, Mafia VI.

I feel dumb.  I don't understand this joke at all.

Oh, it's pretty highbrow.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3074.msg67176#msg67176

[eHalcyon]

I want to nominate theorel for the title "so good at t opology" after the events of Day 2, Mafia VI.

I feel dumb.  I don't understand this joke at all.

Oh, it's pretty highbrow.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3074.msg67176#msg67176

totally forgot that

[Ozle]

Just for once id like to play a mafia game where im not a bad guy! I suck at being bad, haha.
Two mafia games where I Mafia, two bastard games. Not sure I have ever lived past day 2

[cayvie]

Just for once id like to play a mafia game where im not a bad guy! I suck at being bad, haha.
Two mafia games where I Mafia, two bastard games. Not sure I have ever lived past day 2

That's why I quit playing on mtgsalvation.

I played 5 games there. 4 of them, I was a basic mafia goon. My one protown game, I had a post restriction where all I could post was votes.

[Ozle]

Just for once id like to play a mafia game where im not a bad guy! I suck at being bad, haha.
Two mafia games where I Mafia, two bastard games. Not sure I have ever lived past day 2

That's why I quit playing on mtgsalvation.

I played 5 games there. 4 of them, I was a basic mafia goon. My one protown game, I had a post restriction where all I could post was votes.

Heh, with mine its just low odds really, I have no idea how I would play as town. Thinking about it, probably exactly the same and get lynched early anyways!
Im

[Eevee]

Just for once id like to play a mafia game where im not a bad guy! I suck at being bad, haha.
Two mafia games where I Mafia, two bastard games. Not sure I have ever lived past day 2

That's why I quit playing on mtgsalvation.

I played 5 games there. 4 of them, I was a basic mafia goon. My one protown game, I had a post restriction where all I could post was votes.

Hahaha thats pretty funny.

[Grujah]

Now, this thread gonna skyrocket next few days.

[cayvie]

I get super redacted when redacted, apparently

[jotheonah]

treading dangerously close to game talk there.

[Tables]

I might need a sub for Resistance II. Any takers?

[Insomniac]

I might need a sub for Resistance II. Any takers?

Sure

[Morgrim7]

Yes, this is the unpopular forum tim.

Edit: Oof, that was a ridiculous typo.
Edit2: Typo kept for laughs.

[jotheonah]

Now we need to make a meme of a derpy guy and call him "Unpopular Forum Tim"

[Ozle]

Now we need to make a meme of a derpy guy and call him "Unpopular Forum Tim"

Can we just assume its been made and move on with things?

[Captain_Frisk]

Ozle - shouldn't you be launching murder mystery?

[Ozle]

Ozle - shouldn't you be launching murder mystery?

Still two people short!

[Captain_Frisk]

Is that including Axxle2 and Axxle3?

[Ozle]

Not even Axxle 1 has signed up!

[Axxle]

I'll be gone for 9 days starting friday.  If you're ok with that I'll sign up.

[Ozle]

I'll be gone for 9 days starting friday.  If you're ok with that I'll sign up.

And you'll still probably post more than you did in MVI!

Well, I can put you down as a back up if you like if we start before then?

[Axxle]

I'll be gone for 9 days starting friday.  If you're ok with that I'll sign up.

And you'll still probably post more than you did in MVI!

Well, I can put you down as a back up if you like if we start before then?

Sounds good.

[Morgrim7]

Wow that typo of mine was ridiculous.

[Captain_Frisk]

In for mafia 8

[Grujah]

Gonna host it soon. Need to post in Ozle's thread first.

[ehunt]

I'm out for mafia 8, work has gotten busy. I'll enjoy the spectator quicktopic.

[Morgrim7]

I am gonna be busy enough hosting BM 5.

[Ozle]

Yeah, get back to solving my murder people!!

Shame your not in that one ehunt, they could have used you i think!

[Morgrim7]

Yeah, get back to solving my murder people!!

Shame your not in that one ehunt, they could have used you i think!

No, people, do not listen. Sign up for my mafia game. You will like your role. I promise.
/advertising

[Grujah]

I dont like BMs 

[Morgrim7]

I dont like BMs 

This is not Bastard Mafia. It is Big Money. If I had to title it, it would be a RMM.

[Ozle]

*is so glad he pulled out of Role Madness Mafia*

haha

[Grujah]

* Grujah is glad he was lynched!

[eHalcyon]

* Grujah is glad he was lynched!

Fun fact: at one point I considered including the role "Speculated Dark Ages Card" that would "retrieve a card from the trash", i.e. you could (one shot) revive a dead player.  I decided that it was a little too crazy.

[Eevee]

* Grujah is glad he was lynched!

Fun fact: at one point I considered including the role "Speculated Dark Ages Card" that would "retrieve a card from the trash", i.e. you could (one shot) revive a dead player.  I decided that it was a little too crazy.

You shouldnt be telling what is or isnt in the game anywhere but in the thread when the game is still going. Not everyone reads this

[eHalcyon]

* Grujah is glad he was lynched!

Fun fact: at one point I considered including the role "Speculated Dark Ages Card" that would "retrieve a card from the trash", i.e. you could (one shot) revive a dead player.  I decided that it was a little too crazy.

You shouldnt be telling what is or isnt in the game anywhere but in the thread when the game is still going. Not everyone reads this

I think a necromantic power should be ruled out by default.

[Insomniac]

Nah. I had one in bm3 :p

[eHalcyon]

Nah. I had one in bm3 :p

But this isn't BM!

[Ozle]

Its a bit bastardy, haha

[eHalcyon]

Its a bit bastardy, haha

OK, maybe a smidgen.

[Ozle]

Geez, if its bad as a player when its Night, its 10 times worse as a Mod!

[Insomniac]

Geez, if its bad as a player when its Night, its 10 times worse as a Mod!

Been there.

[Captain_Frisk]

There is still one game going.....

[Ozle]

There is still one game going.....

Yeah, ive voted in that one.

I seriously have exhausted all my investigation ideas on yours Mr Frisk,  felt like I did a lot of groundwork for other people to pick up the trail onwards!

[jotheonah]

Geez, if its bad as a player when its Night, its 10 times worse as a Mod!

As a mod you get to see everyone's night actions and giggle as it becomes clear what craziness is going to happen in the night. And spend way too long on the next day's flavor paragraph.

[cayvie]

jo get in my game thread >:|

[Voltgloss]

As a mod you get to see everyone's night actions and giggle as it becomes clear what craziness is going to happen in the night. And spend way too long on the next day's flavor paragraph.

+500.  Mafia IV, Night 3.  Gooood times.

[Dsell]

As a mod you get to see everyone's night actions and giggle as it becomes clear what craziness is going to happen in the night. And spend way too long on the next day's flavor paragraph.

+500.  Mafia IV, Night 3.  Gooood times.

What did you think the outcome would be? Obviously you knew there'd be no deaths but who did you think would catch blame?

[Voltgloss]

As a mod you get to see everyone's night actions and giggle as it becomes clear what craziness is going to happen in the night. And spend way too long on the next day's flavor paragraph.

+500.  Mafia IV, Night 3.  Gooood times.

What did you think the outcome would be? Obviously you knew there'd be no deaths but who did you think would catch blame?

I thought the most likely outcome was what happened in the discussion thread:  for someone to pick up on the C9++ issue and realize your claim of "Woodcutter #2" was 100% bogus.  (Obviously easier for me - as the mod making the setup - to notice that as an issue, then it was for the town to pick up on.)

But no one did, and you managed to get the town to kill the person who you were supposed to kill the previous night but were never planning to kill anyway even though Frisk saw through your little game and decided to kill your target for you but couldn't because your partner blocked him while you were busy butting heads the town doc and getting nothing and liking it!

[deep breath]

What a fun game that was. 

[Ozle]

Geez, if its bad as a player when its Night, its 10 times worse as a Mod!

As a mod you get to see everyone's night actions and giggle as it becomes clear what craziness is going to happen in the night. And spend way too long on the next day's flavor paragraph.

Oh wait, I was supposed to give people night actions....damn, knew I forgot something

[Ozle]

And all my flavour gets written as and when its needed, never takes that long!

[eHalcyon]

And all my flavour gets written as and when its needed, never takes that long!

My flavour is written on the fly as well.  It tends to take some time.

Modding RMMI has been super fun though.  You guys have no idea.

[Ozle]

Damnit, just unlocked (B)MMM 1 for Day 2, but its midnight here and I want to go to bed, but I can't...because I want to see what happens....

[Galzria]

Damnit, just unlocked (B)MMM 1 for Day 2, but its midnight here and I want to go to bed, but I can't...because I want to see what happens....

Everyone is still too groggy from last night. Tell your servants to send up Coffee, a shot of your finest Whiskey, and a bucket of ice. We can talk after the Whiskey.

[Ozle]

Damnit, just unlocked (B)MMM 1 for Day 2, but its midnight here and I want to go to bed, but I can't...because I want to see what happens....

Everyone is still too groggy from last night. Tell your servants to send up Coffee, a shot of your finest Whiskey, and a bucket of ice. We can talk after the Whiskey.

I would.......but im dead!!

[jotheonah]

a lot of U's in flavor. I guess we have more Brits/Commonwealthers than I realized...

[Ozle]

a lot of U's in flavor. I guess we have more Brits/Commonwealthers than I realized...

The fact i'm in BST not give it away? *winks*

plus, thats the proper spelling *grins*

[jotheonah]

I'm notoriously unobservant. It's part of why I'm such a terrible mafia player.

[eHalcyon]

a lot of U's in flavor. I guess we have more Brits/Commonwealthers than I realized...

The question is whether there are more Americans than people-from-anywhere-else.  Because everyone uses u's other than Americans.

/Canadian

[jotheonah]

hence my reference to the commonwealth.

[Captain_Frisk]

Meh - spelling evolves.  Go read any document that is 200 years old and you're bound to find some weird shit.

[eHalcyon]

hence my reference to the commonwealth.

But it goes beyond the Commonwealth!

[Ozle]

Meh - spelling evolves.  Go read any document that is 200 years old and you're bound to find some weird shit.

Yeah, but not all evolution is a good thing

We'd all be much happier if we were single celled amoebas swimming in primordial ooze!

[jotheonah]

BUt ameobas are incapable of happiness.

[Voltgloss]

BUt ameobas are incapable of happiness.

True.  They can't play Mafia.

[Ozle]

Phew, that lynch came just at the right time, im away most of tomorrow at the Olympics! Been refreshing like crazy hoping it came in!

Enjoy the night people!

[eHalcyon]

I hope there is a play-by-play for MVII when it's over.  I am not following but just took a quick peek at it.  Apparently timchen is acting crazy?  Not quite sure what's happening.

(Will stop talking about it here, lest it get too close to prohibited discussion.)

[cayvie]

I hope there is a play-by-play for MVII when it's over.  I am not following but just took a quick peek at it.  Apparently timchen is acting crazy?  Not quite sure what's happening.

(Will stop talking about it here, lest it get too close to prohibited discussion.)

you should ask volt for the qt

[eHalcyon]

I hope there is a play-by-play for MVII when it's over.  I am not following but just took a quick peek at it.  Apparently timchen is acting crazy?  Not quite sure what's happening.

(Will stop talking about it here, lest it get too close to prohibited discussion.)

you should ask volt for the qt

But I'm not following it!

[Axxle]

I need a replacement for RMM2.

[O]

I need a replacement for RMM2.

Still? I'd replace in.

[Morgrim7]

All right, thanks. Send me a confirmation PM.

[Grujah]

Waait, I don't want to replace out anymore, Volt maybe does

Edit: But maybe I should, and focus on studing. 

[Voltgloss]

Waait, I don't want to replace out anymore, Volt maybe does

Edit: But maybe I should, and focus on studing. 

That's up to you Gruj.  I do want to replace out, but you asked to do so first.  If you still want to replace out, I'll wait for the next person;  if you want to stay in the game though, then yes if O could replace me that would be great.

[Morgrim7]

Waait, I don't want to replace out anymore, Volt maybe does

Edit: But maybe I should, and focus on studing. 

Yes or no?

[Grujah]

I'll play. Replace Volt if he wants.

[Galzria]

I would play another game. I prefer knowing what roles are available, but but either way is fine. Large group or small group is fine.

You impress me, Robz. This just goes to show how many forum games the human body is capable of playing. I think this i my last mafia game for a while...

Ahh, how nieve we all were...

[Voltgloss]

O can replace me.  Thanks.

[Morgrim7]

O can replace me.  Thanks.

All right...

[jotheonah]

it's night in all my games. and by all I mean both. guys I'm only in two games right now what is WRONG with me.

[Ozle]

Im not in any, its quite liberating!

[Galzria]

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

[Voltgloss]

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

Simultaneous deadlines, bro

[Eevee]

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

Save it Galz, we know you're busy nighttalking to your scumbuddies in every game anyways.

[Voltgloss]

Speaking of deadlines, here's something to think about while we wait for night results.  For the next game I mod, I am contemplating using "bankable deadlines."  Explanation here:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bankable_deadline

Curious to hear people's thoughts in advance.  Good idea, bad idea, indifferent?  Worth a try to see how it works?

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

Save it Galz, we know you're busy nighttalking to your scumbuddies in every game anyways.

Galz misses Mystery Mafia where he had 2,784* QTs

* may be some rounding

[Axxle]

Speaking of deadlines, here's something to think about while we wait for night results.  For the next game I mod, I am contemplating using "bankable deadlines."  Explanation here:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bankable_deadline

Curious to hear people's thoughts in advance.  Good idea, bad idea, indifferent?  Worth a try to see how it works?

Cool idea.  Would finally give incentive to end Day 1 early, although sometimes that's unpossible anyway.

[Captain_Frisk]

Speaking of deadlines, here's something to think about while we wait for night results.  For the next game I mod, I am contemplating using "bankable deadlines."  Explanation here:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bankable_deadline

Curious to hear people's thoughts in advance.  Good idea, bad idea, indifferent?  Worth a try to see how it works?

I'd be interested.

[Galzria]

Speaking of deadlines, here's something to think about while we wait for night results.  For the next game I mod, I am contemplating using "bankable deadlines."  Explanation here:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bankable_deadline

Curious to hear people's thoughts in advance.  Good idea, bad idea, indifferent?  Worth a try to see how it works?

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

Save it Galz, we know you're busy nighttalking to your scumbuddies in every game anyways.

Galz misses Mystery Mafia where he had 2,784* QTs

* may be some rounding

There is so much truth there. All games should include some form of Daychat. Makes it so much more fun!

[Galzria]

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

Save it Galz, we know you're busy nighttalking to your scumbuddies in every game anyways.

Iz tru.

Even when I'm town, I'm scum.

[Axxle]

Speaking of deadlines, here's something to think about while we wait for night results.  For the next game I mod, I am contemplating using "bankable deadlines."  Explanation here:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bankable_deadline

Curious to hear people's thoughts in advance.  Good idea, bad idea, indifferent?  Worth a try to see how it works?

How can so many games hit night phase at the same time?

Save it Galz, we know you're busy nighttalking to your scumbuddies in every game anyways.

Galz misses Mystery Mafia where he had 2,784* QTs

* may be some rounding

There is so much truth there. All games should include some form of Daychat. Makes it so much more fun!

Try hydraing, where two players control one player slot and can daychat with each other like they're one mind.  It's a bit controversial at mafiascum, but as long as the mod is ok with it I think it'll be something you enjoy.

[Galzria]

Hydra would be a bit too wild for me, I think.

[jotheonah]

Well if a certain Morgrim7 would show up we could at least kick off BMV.

[Galzria]

Well if a certain Morgrim7 would show up we could at least kick off BMV.

Does he really need to confirm to kick it off? It's not like he's likely to just disappear, he's just asleep most likely. It IS 2:30 AM there.

[Axxle]

Well if a certain Morgrim7 would show up we could at least kick off BMV.

You don't need *everyone* to confirm to start it, it's not like we'll all be there for the start anyway.

[Morgrim7]

Well if a certain Morgrim7 would show up we could at least kick off BMV.

Who, me? 

 

[Insomniac]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

[O]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

I could mod it.

[Insomniac]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

I could mod it.

That'd be awesome

[Morgrim7]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

I could mod it.

hey where are youuuuu. go to qt.

[Voltgloss]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

I could mod it.

hey where are youuuuu. go to qt.

Hmm.

[Captain_Frisk]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

I could mod it.

hey where are youuuuu. go to qt.

Facepalm?

[Insomniac]

Dont know enough to mod it but I'd love to be in a resistance 3 if someone else was inclined

I could mod it.

hey where are youuuuu. go to qt.

Facepalm?

To be fair I actually don't even know what he's talking about though it could have been directed at O. Also whats a PM? 

[O]

Hey you derps, he means the QT for setting up his Mafia game.

But still, I POSTED THERE BEFORE YOU POSTED THAT YOU DOLT.

[Morgrim7]

Hey you derps, he means the QT for setting up his Mafia game.

But still, I POSTED THERE BEFORE YOU POSTED THAT YOU DOLT.

uhh, no you didn't.

[cayvie]

all my games are in night

[Insomniac]

all my games are in night

join ZM1, it starts on Sunday, I promise nights won't be an issue there

[Captain_Frisk]

all my games are in night

I find that there is no right amount of forum mafia.  When any of my games are in night, its sad.  When they aren't - its overwhelming.

[Insomniac]

all my games are in night

I find that there is no right amount of forum mafia.  When any of my games are in night, its sad.  When they aren't - its overwhelming.

You too

all my games are in night

join ZM1, it starts on Sunday, I promise nights won't be an issue there

[cayvie]

all my games are in night

join ZM1, it starts on Sunday, I promise nights won't be an issue there

nah that's too fast for me; not playing diplomacy again either unless it's a slower one.

[Galzria]

all my games are in night

join ZM1, it starts on Sunday, I promise nights won't be an issue there

nah that's too fast for me; not playing diplomacy again either unless it's a slower one.

Slower?! I'm already waiting with baited breath for what feels like moooonths for each season!

Nah, I can understand wanting a little more time sometimes, especially earlier in the game. Besides, I want to play a game with you where you get a chance to be a bigger factor.

[cayvie]

thank goodness, one of my games in night started up again!

[Morgrim7]

thank goodness, one of my games in night started up again!

but you are dead

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

all my games are in night

I find that there is no right amount of forum mafia.  When any of my games are in night, its sad.  When they aren't - its overwhelming.

You too

all my games are in night

join ZM1, it starts on Sunday, I promise nights won't be an issue there

Yes Frisk, you too.

[Eevee]

Rage! No games (where I live) ongoing, then one opens up again.. and I'm not alive anymore.

[Voltaire]

Rage! No games (where I live) ongoing, then one opens up again.. and I'm not alive anymore.

It just means XI is closer to starting...

[Captain_Frisk]

Anyone planning on a small game starting soon?

[Robz888]

Anyone planning on a small game starting soon?

No! My game is next. I waited my turn.

On a side note, I personally find the small games way more involving than the big ones. In the big ones, it's okay to post less or to fall a bit behind, because there should be other stuff going on and other people being super active. If you're not contributing heavily in a small game, you are a huge detriment.

[Voltgloss]

My game will be mid-sized.  13 players.  I will be posting a sign-up thread after Robz's game starts.

[Eevee]

Anyone planning on a small game starting soon?

No! My game is next. I waited my turn.

On a side note, I personally find the small games way more involving than the big ones. In the big ones, it's okay to post less or to fall a bit behind, because there should be other stuff going on and other people being super active. If you're not contributing heavily in a small game, you are a huge detriment.

I disagree. In huge games, I find it really hard to even remember everyone, let alone analyze people. And bigger games tend to have a lot more posts, so re-reading them to analyze takes toooo long.

[Captain_Frisk]

Anyone planning on a small game starting soon?

No! My game is next. I waited my turn.

On a side note, I personally find the small games way more involving than the big ones. In the big ones, it's okay to post less or to fall a bit behind, because there should be other stuff going on and other people being super active. If you're not contributing heavily in a small game, you are a huge detriment.

I disagree. In huge games, I find it really hard to even remember everyone, let alone analyze people. And bigger games tend to have a lot more posts, so re-reading them to analyze takes toooo long.

+1 to this.  Also - with multi scum team games - it i find it less interesting to analyze the posts.  Scum don't really know more than the other townies, so your normal town behavior is also scum behavior. 

[Insomniac]

I have to agree with Eevee and Frisk.

[cayvie]

I like big games

I think I agree about multiple scumteams though; not a fan. They make the game too swingy.

[jotheonah]

You want to run a really big game with just one, like 5-man scum team? that would be pretty crazy.

[cayvie]

You want to run a really big game with just one, like 5-man scum team? that would be pretty crazy.

yes

[Dsell]

You want to run a really big game with just one, like 5-man scum team? that would be pretty crazy.

That could be pretty cool. Multiple scumteams really have blown up on each other. I think it's a combination of scum being a lot more worried about other scum than town and the fact that scum have more knowledge and are thus less paranoid and better scumhunters themselves. As scum, you really want to make the town their own worst enemy, rather than actually having to deal with an enemy.

I think multiple scumteams are probably viable somehow but are tough to balance and tend to add a lot of swing to the game.

[Eevee]

It's so weird to wake up and have no games to read.

I don't like this.

[Grujah]

Dude, its 19:33.

[Galzria]

Dude, its 19:33.

You've got 9 hours on me. Makes us drunkposting together as scumbuddies hard. By the time I'm home and can get into the swing of things, it's obscure hours of the morning for you.

[Grujah]

If I'm drunk and at a computer, its likely obscure morning hours (First morning bus gets to my home at 4:20ish am?)

[Voltaire]

It's so weird to wake up and have no games to read.

I don't like this.

You can still follow from beyond the grave? I know it's cold comfort...

[Eevee]

It's so weird to wake up and have no games to read.

I don't like this.

You can still follow from beyond the grave? I know it's cold comfort...

Oh I am, and spectator QT's are okay. But it's just not the same once you're dead.

[Voltaire]

And just like that, there were 4 games...

[jotheonah]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

[Captain_Frisk]

I need a cigarette.

[Eevee]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

[jotheonah]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

Clearly because all the power players were busy in MXII, where you are a corpse.

[Dsell]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

[sparky5856]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

It was. Trust me.

[O]

>game going along slowly
>goes to 2 hour class
>?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Eevee]

 

[Captain_Frisk]

Volt - hurry up and restart before we break the rules.

[Galzria]

Volt - hurry up and restart before we break the rules.

Don't you want more time to talk to your scumbuddies?

...

*Ahem* Nevermind me.

Volt, hurry up and unlock it! I can't wait to see what happens! It's not like I have my own games to obsess over!

Oh, wait...

[Voltgloss]

Oh you sillies.

Patience, friends.

[eHalcyon]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

[Insomniac]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

No such thing, go read it then join the spec thread.

[eHalcyon]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

No such thing, go read it then join the spec thread.

I'm trying to follow fewer things so I don't spend so much time around here. 

[Dsell]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

Some crazy stuff happened, then some more crazy stuff happened, then some REALLY CRAZY stuff happened.

You just have GOT to read it.

PPE: I understand, this game consumed way too much of my time today, and I'm not even in it...

[Voltgloss]

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

Day 2 massclaim, among other developments.

[Galzria]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

Joth found Robz scummy, who in turn found O scummy, until they all decided they were likely town. Then Robz found Cuzz scummy, along with everyone else, until Cuzz claimed. Then Theorel found O scummy while Robz found Grujah scummy. Eventually they forced Grujah to claim as well, and both claims were Doctor. For awhile nobody realized they both could be true. Then they realized it was like a 07% chance, but it meant there must be a JK. Robz wanted to kill Gruj anyway. Joth wanted to massclaim. CF defended Grujah. Robz swore they were both scummates. CF claimed JK. Robz called for no more claims but still wanted to lynch Grujah. Theorel suspected O. They debated roles for 10 pages. Ribz claimed Tracker. Joth flip flopped between wanting to lynch Robz, Gruj, Cuzz, and anyone else who posted. Theorel suspected O. They decided to massclaim. Everyone else claimed VT. They debated over the existence of a SK, which could put town in lylo (he existed if nobody fakeclaimed, but not if one person lied. However if two did there WAS a SK). Theorel wanted to lynch a claimed VT over a claimed PR, using math to show the odds of finding scum were better there. He suspected O. Robz decided Sparky was scum. Sparky lurked. Insomniac claimed Robz was scum who had outed all the PR's. Joth agreed. Grujah and Frisk were on the fence. Eventually everyone but O had voted, and Sparky and Robz were both at L-1. People waffled (Ha!). People waffled some more. Everybody claimed Insomniac was obvSK. Insomniac denied it. People waffled. Sparky was lynched. Sparky was scum. Theorel suspected O.

Yeah, I think that's everything. Except, like 10x crazier.

[Eevee]

Where is the upvote-button.

[Voltgloss]

Galz just wrote the lynch flavor post.

[eHalcyon]

Bah that was such a tense day of mafia. I won't talk about it anymore, but damn.

It was? All my games stood still.

You weren't watching MVII? Because that was INTENSE.

Impartial summary for those of us not following?

Joth found Robz scummy, who in turn found O scummy, until they all decided they were likely town. Then Robz found Cuzz scummy, along with everyone else, until Cuzz claimed. Then Theorel found O scummy while Robz found Grujah scummy. Eventually they forced Grujah to claim as well, and both claims were Doctor. For awhile nobody realized they both could be true. Then they realized it was like a 07% chance, but it meant there must be a JK. Robz wanted to kill Gruj anyway. Joth wanted to massclaim. CF defended Grujah. Robz swore they were both scummates. CF claimed JK. Robz called for no more claims but still wanted to lynch Grujah. Theorel suspected O. They debated roles for 10 pages. Ribz claimed Tracker. Joth flip flopped between wanting to lynch Robz, Gruj, Cuzz, and anyone else who posted. Theorel suspected O. They decided to massclaim. Everyone else claimed VT. They debated over the existence of a SK, which could put town in lylo (he existed if nobody fakeclaimed, but not if one person lied. However if two did there WAS a SK). Theorel wanted to lynch a claimed VT over a claimed PR, using math to show the odds of finding scum were better there. He suspected O. Robz decided Sparky was scum. Sparky lurked. Insomniac claimed Robz was scum who had outed all the PR's. Joth agreed. Grujah and Frisk were on the fence. Eventually everyone but O had voted, and Sparky and Robz were both at L-1. People waffled (Ha!). People waffled some more. Everybody claimed Insomniac was obvSK. Insomniac denied it. People waffled. Sparky was lynched. Sparky was scum. Theorel suspected O.

Yeah, I think that's everything. Except, like 10x crazier.

Clearly they are ALL scum.

[Lekkit]

I don't talk here very often, so I'll take the opportunity to do so now.

[Ozle]

I don't talk here very often, so I'll take the opportunity to do so now.

Scum tell

[Galzria]

I don't talk here very often, so I'll take the opportunity to do so now.

Scum tell

Lekkit hunting is a scumtell.

[Ozle]

I don't talk here very often, so I'll take the opportunity to do so now.

Scum tell

Lekkit hunting is a scumtell.

Takes one to know one!

[Captain_Frisk]

Ozle, how is MMMMMMMMM2 coming?

[Eevee]

Ozle, how is MMMMMMMMM2 coming?

+18

[Ozle]

I don't think another one would work, it would have to be completely different as otherwise you would all know the way to solve immediately!

[Eevee]

I don't think another one would work, it would have to be completely different as otherwise you would all know the way to solve immediately!

I sort of disagree with that. You had some unique ideas (scumgalz and his qt's, grrr), but it's not like there was some grand twist that is now ruined?

[Ozle]

Hmm, well i don't mind having a go at writing it, but someone else would probably need to do at least half the modding, not as much time as before

[Ozle]

Ok, I have a new idea for another 'special' mafia game.....

[Galzria]

I don't think another one would work, it would have to be completely different as otherwise you would all know the way to solve immediately!

I sort of disagree with that. You had some unique ideas (scumgalz and his qt's, grrr), but it's not like there was some grand twist that is now ruined?

I was innocent! Honest! I never hurt nobody! I just wanted a nice, quiet place to talk, and those QT's were perfect! I only lied to protect you and CF! That Ozle was an evil, greedy, overbearing, murderous warlord! He deserved what he got for killing my son when he jumped out that window.

[Ozle]

I don't think another one would work, it would have to be completely different as otherwise you would all know the way to solve immediately!

I sort of disagree with that. You had some unique ideas (scumgalz and his qt's, grrr), but it's not like there was some grand twist that is now ruined?

I was innocent! Honest! I never hurt nobody! I just wanted a nice, quiet place to talk, and those QT's were perfect! I only lied to protect you and CF! That Ozle was an evil, greedy, overbearing, murderous warlord! He deserved what he got for killing my son when he jumped out that window.

Not Ozles fault your son made a nice soft fat landing!

[Captain_Frisk]

I don't think another one would work, it would have to be completely different as otherwise you would all know the way to solve immediately!

I sort of disagree with that. You had some unique ideas (scumgalz and his qt's, grrr), but it's not like there was some grand twist that is now ruined?

I was innocent! Honest! I never hurt nobody! I just wanted a nice, quiet place to talk, and those QT's were perfect! I only lied to protect you and CF! That Ozle was an evil, greedy, overbearing, murderous warlord! He deserved what he got for killing my son when he jumped out that window.

Day chat is my all time favorite ability.  I'm still angry about the eHalc cult, but its just too fun.

[Ozle]

Ok, 14 player game probably ready to go...at least the special mechanic is anyways.
No flavour yet

[Galzria]

Ok, 14 player game probably ready to go...at least the special mechanic is anyways.
No flavour yet

1000% /in!

[Ozle]

Ok, 14 player game probably ready to go...at least the special mechanic is anyways.
No flavour yet

1000% /in!

Haha, you dont even know the details yet!

It wont be a murder mystery, but it will have a sub game!

[Voltgloss]

It wont be a murder mystery, but it will have a sub game!

It should be a murder mystery on a sub.

[Galzria]

It wont be a murder mystery, but it will have a sub game!

It should be a murder mystery on a sub.

I thought sandwich. I'll admit it.

[Dsell]

Ok, 14 player game probably ready to go...at least the special mechanic is anyways.
No flavour yet

What. How did you just make a game in an hour???

I've been working on the pokemon mafia for foreeeever. It's actually really close to being done though.

[Galzria]

Ok, 14 player game probably ready to go...at least the special mechanic is anyways.
No flavour yet

What. How did you just make a game in an hour???

I've been working on the pokemon mafia for foreeeever. It's actually really close to being done though.

Vote: Dsell for questioning The Ozle

[Ozle]

Ok, 14 player game probably ready to go...at least the special mechanic is anyways.
No flavour yet

What. How did you just make a game in an hour???

I've been working on the pokemon mafia for foreeeever. It's actually really close to being done though.

No of course not.....took about 10 minutes
The idea is easy, getting the balance right is the tricky bit.

It will be a normal game, but with a sub game built in, that will interact with the main game, but in a completely different way to BMMMMM

I cant tell you the theme, because the key element to my games is the unexpected!

[Voltgloss]

I cant tell you the theme, because the key element to my games is the unexpected!

BMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 2: Uncle Ulnar's Revenge

[Ozle]

I cant tell you the theme, because the key element to my games is the unexpected!

BMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 2: Uncle Ulnar's Revenge

In 3D!

[eHalcyon]

I cant tell you the theme, because the key element to my games is the unexpected!

BMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 2: Uncle Ulnar's Revenge

In 3D!

Ugh, everything is in 3D these days.

[Galzria]

I cant tell you the theme, because the key element to my games is the unexpected!

BMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 2: Uncle Ulnar's Revenge

In 3D!

Ugh, everything is in 3D these days.

I'm not!

[eHalcyon]

Also, I wish RMM3 players would submit their actions.  I've only gotten maybe half of them.

[Voltgloss]

Also, I wish RMM3 players would submit their actions.  I've only gotten maybe half of them.

my bad

troll: eHalcyon

[Lekkit]

An hour and a half until deadline!

[eHalcyon]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

[Lekkit]

And I've got Z's to catch. It's 11 pm here, and I've got a road trip across the country tomorrow. I will be on my phone, though. But I should probably post in the VLA-thread.

[Captain_Frisk]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Spelled flavor wrong.

[Eevee]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Stop posting in robzmafia and get to it. We've been waiting for god knows how long, that games is still going to be there when you're finished.

[Galzria]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Spelled flavor wrong.

His behaviour is spot on. Flavour is a wonderful thing. Even if you don't agree with his meathods, you can't argue with his results!

[Galzria]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Stop posting in robzmafia and get to it. We've been waiting for god knows how long, that games is still going to be there when you're finished.

Robzmafia is more exciting.

You're just going to wake up dead anyway, you always do. So what's your rush?

*ducks for cover*

[Robz888]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Stop posting in robzmafia and get to it. We've been waiting for god knows how long, that games is still going to be there when you're finished.

Eevee, what happened to your avatar? Evolve into Invisibilion, or something?[/lame]

[Captain_Frisk]

theory says my avatar no longer loads, but it does for me.

My assumption is that his work has blocked the site.  Is it gone for anyone else?

[Galzria]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Stop posting in robzmafia and get to it. We've been waiting for god knows how long, that games is still going to be there when you're finished.

Eevee, what happened to your avatar? Evolve into Invisibilion, or something?[/lame]

Nothing's changed... >.>

[Galzria]

theory says my avatar no longer loads, but it does for me.

My assumption is that his work has blocked the site.  Is it gone for anyone else?

I still see all Avatars on my mobile just fine.

[Robz888]

I'm seeing everything but Eevee's avatar right now.

[Eevee]

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Stop posting in robzmafia and get to it. We've been waiting for god knows how long, that games is still going to be there when you're finished.

Eevee, what happened to your avatar? Evolve into Invisibilion, or something?[/lame]

Hum, it still works for me. I see all the avatars jut fine. You don't see mine?

An hour and a half until deadline!

And then I have flavour to write!

Stop posting in robzmafia and get to it. We've been waiting for god knows how long, that games is still going to be there when you're finished.

Robzmafia is more exciting.

You're just going to wake up dead anyway, you always do. So what's your rush?

*ducks for cover*

Grrrr. Remember, fuzzy still has claws.

[Voltgloss]

I can't see Eevee's avatar either.

[Dsell]

It looks different to me, but I can see it. New look for fuzzy?

[Dsell]

Oh, and now it looks different again! XD

[Voltgloss]

I see it now, in its new and improved state.

[Eevee]

It looks different to me, but I can see it. New look for fuzzy?

^_~

[Dsell]

It looks different to me, but I can see it. New look for fuzzy?

^_~

Now it's different yet AGAIN! Say...if you were ever to evolve, which eeveelution would you be?

[cayvie]

sassy

[Galzria]

It looks different to me, but I can see it. New look for fuzzy?

^_~

It looks more feral. Except the wink. That's just cute.

[Lekkit]

C_F: I can see your avatar from my computer and my phone, but not from my girlfriend's MacBook.

[Eevee]

It looks different to me, but I can see it. New look for fuzzy?

^_~

Now it's different yet AGAIN! Say...if you were ever to evolve, which eeveelution would you be?

I don't know, probably Jolteon or Flareon. Vaporeon always sort of freaked me out.

Thanks Galzria, that's exactly what I was going for!

[Robz888]

Everybody can see me, right? Young Link from Majora's Mask?

[Eevee]

Everybody can see me, right? Young Link from Majora's Mask?

Yes. Although didn't know that's what it was.

[Galzria]

Everybody can see me, right? Young Link from Majora's Mask?

Yes. Although didn't know that's what it was.

Neither did I. I was always a Final Fantasy guy, not Zelda.

[Ozle]

You all have my little pony avatars to me

[cayvie]

You all have my little pony avatars to me

which one am i

[Galzria]

You all have my little pony avatars to me

We all know that I'm Fluttershy.

[Ozle]

You all have my little pony avatars to me

which one am i

The fact that any of you would know the names of any is quite frankly disturbing

[Lekkit]

I WANNA BE RAINBOW DASH!

[sparky5856]

Twilight Sparkle
Rainbow Dash
Fluttersky
Applejack
Rarity
Pinkie Pie

Do I win?

[jotheonah]

No, I want to be Rainbow. She is just hands down the best pony.

[Ozle]

Seriously guys...seriously, i hope you are using google for your own sakes

[cayvie]

i want to be princess luna

[Voltgloss]

my pony avatar is nice

[Galzria]

Seriously guys...seriously, i hope you are using google for your own sakes

Google? What's that?

I'm Fluttershy, and my bestest friend in the whoooole world is Angel, but I love all my animal friends equally. I'm really shy around other ponies, and I CAN be a bit bossy sometimes, but all in all, I try my very best!

[Voltgloss]

so Robz is Angel.  good to know

[Galzria]

I am now Tops Online by less than 10 minutes!:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

[Eevee]

I am now Tops Online by less than 10 minutes!:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

Congratulations! .. I guess.

[Galzria]

I am now Tops Online by less than 10 minutes!:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=stats

Congratulations! .. I guess.

>.>

I shoot up in bunches when things in these parts get excitin'!

[eHalcyon]

I sent out night 1 PMs for RMM3... and then I accidentally deleted the day 2 start post I was writing.  So it'll be a bit longer.

[Captain_Frisk]

I have been debating with robz regarding wether or not day 3 should start in a new thread.

I say yes. He says: won't that piss everyone off?  Discuss this - but obviously not the game.

[yuma]

I have been debating with robz regarding wether or not day 3 should start in a new thread.

I say yes. He says: won't that piss everyone off?  Discuss this - but obviously not the game.

I vote yes, I was going to even suggest it!

[Eevee]

I have been debating with robz regarding wether or not day 3 should start in a new thread.

I say yes. He says: won't that piss everyone off?  Discuss this - but obviously not the game.

I vote yes, I was going to even suggest it!

Why though? I'm not in the game and I don't care, but why would you do it?

[yuma]

I have been debating with robz regarding wether or not day 3 should start in a new thread.

I say yes. He says: won't that piss everyone off?  Discuss this - but obviously not the game.

I vote yes, I was going to even suggest it!

Why though? I'm not in the game and I don't care, but why would you do it?

For me personally, I like to be able to go to the print screen, copy and paste and then e-mail the thread to myself to review at places where I don't have access to the site... But with the thread so enormously huge, I can't do that. But that is a purely selfish reason and shouldn't be the only reason for doing it.

[eHalcyon]

I have been debating with robz regarding wether or not day 3 should start in a new thread.

I say yes. He says: won't that piss everyone off?  Discuss this - but obviously not the game.

I vote yes, I was going to even suggest it!

Why though? I'm not in the game and I don't care, but why would you do it?

For me personally, I like to be able to go to the print screen, copy and paste and then e-mail the thread to myself to review at places where I don't have access to the site... But with the thread so enormously huge, I can't do that. But that is a purely selfish reason and shouldn't be the only reason for doing it.

In the game thread, I linked an app that might help called Pocket.

[Captain_Frisk]

I think the "All" button is going to quickly become unavailable.  By rolling into a new thread, the view all posts becomes viable again, and people who want the history will still be able to pull down the whole thing for analysis.

[eHalcyon]

I think the "All" button is going to quickly become unavailable.  By rolling into a new thread, the view all posts becomes viable again, and people who want the history will still be able to pull down the whole thing for analysis.

The Print button usually doesn't fail, even upon reaching hundreds of pages...

[Robz888]

I have no problem doing that if it's what most people want.

[Insomniac]

I have no problem doing that if it's what most people want.

I am impartial.   Neutral Response even.

[Axxle]

Slightly in favor of a new thread.

[Young Nick]

Meh I like having one for simplicity's sake but I guess if I were for simplicity's sake, I would be for a new thread. Hm. I guess I am indifferent.

[Galzria]

I like peeking through the collection of all our finished games, and there's a fond memory every time I see the behemoths sitting there collecting dust. The feeling of epic-ness would be lost by a split, I think.

...

But that's not really a justifiable reason not to I suppose. So I'm fine with a new thread. Just update the opening post, and the last lynch post, into the first two posts. Then the unlock can come in post #3.

[Robz888]

I like peeking through the collection of all our finished games, and there's a fond memory every time I see the behemoths sitting there collecting dust. The feeling of epic-ness would be lost by a split, I think.

Yeah, this is my big reason for not splitting them.

[Ozle]

Do it!

[yuma]

I like peeking through the collection of all our finished games, and there's a fond memory every time I see the behemoths sitting there collecting dust. The feeling of epic-ness would be lost by a split, I think.

Yeah, this is my big reason for not splitting them.

I am not sure how big the effort on theory's part would be, but is it possible to combine the threads after the game is finished via moderator?

[theory]

Yes, I can re-combine the threads after.  Just send me a PM and tell me which threads.

[Robz888]

Yes, I can re-combine the threads after.  Just send me a PM and tell me which threads.

If you don't mind doing this, I will start Day 3 in a new thread. Otherwise, I would keep them together for the sake of historical accuracy.

[theory]

I don't mind at all!  It is literally two seconds of effort and makes it way easier for people to click on "view all".  Just for fun I tried to click "All" on RMM3: my (work) computer crashed.

I can also make topics display more than 25 posts per page, but perhaps navigation is easier with that number?  But if you've thought to yourself, man I'd love to see 50 posts per page you should speak up and let me know.  It is a forum-wide setting apparently.

[Ozle]

While you are here Theory....

On my old forum, we used to have a mod that let you click on number of posts on a thread and it gave a breakdown on how many posts each person had had in that thread....

[Ozle]

I don't mind at all!  It is literally two seconds of effort and makes it way easier for people to click on "view all".  Just for fun I tried to click "All" on RMM3: my (work) computer crashed.

I can also make topics display more than 25 posts per page, but perhaps navigation is easier with that number?  But if you've thought to yourself, man I'd love to see 50 posts per page you should speak up and let me know.  It is a forum-wide setting apparently.

Posts per page can be set in personal options to 50 anyways

[Captain_Frisk]

I don't mind at all!  It is literally two seconds of effort and makes it way easier for people to click on "view all".  Just for fun I tried to click "All" on RMM3: my (work) computer crashed.

I can also make topics display more than 25 posts per page, but perhaps navigation is easier with that number?  But if you've thought to yourself, man I'd love to see 50 posts per page you should speak up and let me know.  It is a forum-wide setting apparently.

Posts per page can be set in personal options to 50 anyways

Yes - this is what I do and I love it.... except when people refer to page numbers.

[theory]

While you are here Theory....

On my old forum, we used to have a mod that let you click on number of posts on a thread and it gave a breakdown on how many posts each person had had in that thread....

Hmm.  Looking for such a mod now.

I don't mind at all!  It is literally two seconds of effort and makes it way easier for people to click on "view all".  Just for fun I tried to click "All" on RMM3: my (work) computer crashed.

I can also make topics display more than 25 posts per page, but perhaps navigation is easier with that number?  But if you've thought to yourself, man I'd love to see 50 posts per page you should speak up and let me know.  It is a forum-wide setting apparently.

Posts per page can be set in personal options to 50 anyways

Oh, never mind then.

[theory]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

[Insomniac]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

Also while your here you gonna jump in on any forum games ever again?

[Eevee]

Ah the hollow feeling of your only game going into night. What is man to do these times, I wonder.

[theory]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

Also while your here you gonna jump in on any forum games ever again?

Maybe a CE game   But I don't want to get super hooked ...

[Robz888]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

Also while your here you gonna jump in on any forum games ever again?

Maybe a CE game   But I don't want to get super hooked ...

You could try Resistance. It's very, very low commitment compared to our mafia games.

[Galzria]

Ah the hollow feeling of your only game going into night. What is man to do these times, I wonder.

Both my games are in night. Is anybody alive in all three? I keep getting their rosters mixed up.

[theory]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

Also while your here you gonna jump in on any forum games ever again?

Maybe a CE game   But I don't want to get super hooked ...

You could try Resistance. It's very, very low commitment compared to our mafia games.

Agghhhh...fine!  I am joining Resistance IV.

[Robz888]

Ah the hollow feeling of your only game going into night. What is man to do these times, I wonder.

Both my games are in night. Is anybody alive in all three? I keep getting their rosters mixed up.

Jotheonah is alive in all three. He's the only one, I think.

[Insomniac]

Ah the hollow feeling of your only game going into night. What is man to do these times, I wonder.

Both my games are in night. Is anybody alive in all three? I keep getting their rosters mixed up.

Jotheonah is alive in all three. He's the only one, I think.

How quickly we forget.

[Robz888]

FYI everybody: Mafia XI will be starting up a little early, in about an hour. I will be creating a new thread, that theory has agreed to recombine into one thread after the game ends.

[jotheonah]

Ah the hollow feeling of your only game going into night. What is man to do these times, I wonder.

Both my games are in night. Is anybody alive in all three? I keep getting their rosters mixed up.

Jotheonah is alive in all three. He's the only one, I think.

This is no longer true.

[eHalcyon]

FYI everybody: Mafia XI will be starting up a little early, in about an hour. I will be creating a new thread, that theory has agreed to recombine into one thread after the game ends.

My main argument against this is that it might make post tracking difficult after the threads are recombined.  I regularly refer to post numbers instead of quoting, but post numbers will be all messed up after combining threads.  It only matters for post-game reading though.

[Captain_Frisk]

Oh - robZ - if you want to keep it in one thread - thats fine.   

[Robz888]

FYI everybody: Mafia XI will be starting up a little early, in about an hour. I will be creating a new thread, that theory has agreed to recombine into one thread after the game ends.

My main argument against this is that it might make post tracking difficult after the threads are recombined.  I regularly refer to post numbers instead of quoting, but post numbers will be all messed up after combining threads.  It only matters for post-game reading though.

Nevermind, I'll just leave it be then.

[Robz888]

Ah the hollow feeling of your only game going into night. What is man to do these times, I wonder.

Both my games are in night. Is anybody alive in all three? I keep getting their rosters mixed up.

Jotheonah is alive in all three. He's the only one, I think.

This is no longer true.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[theory]

Since Mafia XI is at 1990 posts, couldn't you just make some dummy posts, then add a caveat that future post #'s should just add 2000?

Actually, the way it should go is this:

Post #1990
...
Post #1999
[new topic post, unnumbered]
Post #1

So that when it gets merged, it becomes

Post #1999
[old new topic post, now Post #2000, includes caveat that all subsequent post numbers should get a +2000]
Post #2001

[Robz888]

Since Mafia XI is at 1990 posts, couldn't you just make some dummy posts, then add a caveat that future post #'s should just add 2000?

Actually, the way it should go is this:

Post #1990
...
Post #1999
[new topic post, unnumbered]
Post #1

So that when it gets merged, it becomes

Post #1999
[old new topic post, now Post #2000, includes caveat that all subsequent post numbers should get a +2000]
Post #2001

Should I?

[Axxle]

Since Mafia XI is at 1990 posts, couldn't you just make some dummy posts, then add a caveat that future post #'s should just add 2000?

Actually, the way it should go is this:

Post #1990
...
Post #1999
[new topic post, unnumbered]
Post #1

So that when it gets merged, it becomes

Post #1999
[old new topic post, now Post #2000, includes caveat that all subsequent post numbers should get a +2000]
Post #2001

+1

[Galzria]

Since Mafia XI is at 1990 posts, couldn't you just make some dummy posts, then add a caveat that future post #'s should just add 2000?

Actually, the way it should go is this:

Post #1990
...
Post #1999
[new topic post, unnumbered]
Post #1

So that when it gets merged, it becomes

Post #1999
[old new topic post, now Post #2000, includes caveat that all subsequent post numbers should get a +2000]
Post #2001

Should I?

I'm can adapt. I'll still probably refer to posts as #XXXX (D2).

[Ozle]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

Also while your here you gonna jump in on any forum games ever again?

Maybe a CE game   But I don't want to get super hooked ...

I got a new one in the works if you are interested....

[Robz888]

But what if somebody--Morgrim, let's say--can't find the new thread and instead starts playing a Morgrim-only game with himself, self-hammering over and over again?

[Dsell]

Also, you can append &wap, &wap2, or &imode to the end of a URL and get this really slimmed down ugly mobile version.  Works with the "All" button too.  Maybe some of you will prefer that for giant threads.

Also while your here you gonna jump in on any forum games ever again?

Maybe a CE game   But I don't want to get super hooked ...

I got a new one in the works if you are interested....

New game of Cosmic?

[Ozle]

No, Bmmmmmm 2 or whatever im calling it now!

Much less chaotic than the last one and a different sort of sub game!

[Ozle]

But what if somebody--Morgrim, let's say--can't find the new thread and instead starts playing a Morgrim-only game with himself, self-hammering over and over again?

Lock it?

Link the new one in the old one?

[Galzria]

But what if somebody--Morgrim, let's say--can't find the new thread and instead starts playing a Morgrim-only game with himself, self-hammering over and over again?

Wow. +1

[Voltgloss]

But what if somebody--Morgrim, let's say--can't find the new thread and instead starts playing a Morgrim-only game with himself, self-hammering over and over again?

I keep reading and rereading this, and I fail to see the problem with it.

[Galzria]

But what if somebody--Morgrim, let's say--can't find the new thread and instead starts playing a Morgrim-only game with himself, self-hammering over and over again?

I keep reading and rereading this, and I fail to see the problem with it.

>.>

[theory]

Yeah I"ll just lock the old topic.  NBD.

[Robz888]

Okay then, ten fake posts to boost it to an even 2000, including a link to the new thread, and you can lock it, and recombine it when the game finishes. Sounds like a plan! (And we'll just put all-Morgrim-mafia on hiatus).

[eHalcyon]

Okay then, ten fake posts to boost it to an even 2000, including a link to the new thread, and you can lock it, and recombine it when the game finishes. Sounds like a plan! (And we'll just put all-Morgrim-mafia on hiatus).

I think you're supposed to put it to #1999, then the OP of the new thread will end up becoming #2000.

[Robz888]

Okay then, ten fake posts to boost it to an even 2000, including a link to the new thread, and you can lock it, and recombine it when the game finishes. Sounds like a plan! (And we'll just put all-Morgrim-mafia on hiatus).

I think you're supposed to put it to #1999, then the OP of the new thread will end up becoming #2000.

The OP? Literature major here, not robot.

[Captain_Frisk]

Okay then, ten fake posts to boost it to an even 2000, including a link to the new thread, and you can lock it, and recombine it when the game finishes. Sounds like a plan! (And we'll just put all-Morgrim-mafia on hiatus).

I think you're supposed to put it to #1999, then the OP of the new thread will end up becoming #2000.

The OP? Literature major here, not robot.

Original post (ie - post #0).  The Replies are numbered 1,2,3,4 etc - so the first post is #0.

[Insomniac]

Okay then, ten fake posts to boost it to an even 2000, including a link to the new thread, and you can lock it, and recombine it when the game finishes. Sounds like a plan! (And we'll just put all-Morgrim-mafia on hiatus).

I think you're supposed to put it to #1999, then the OP of the new thread will end up becoming #2000.

Original Post.

[Ozle]

Wow you guys are making this over complicated!

[cayvie]

we could just agree to add 2000 to each post without making dummy posts... it's not like there's going to be confusion

[Axxle]

we could just agree to add 2000 to each post without making dummy posts... it's not like there's going to be confusion

When the thread is merged it won't make sense.

[Robz888]

Um, so apparently the original thread can't be quoted anymore. Can that be fixed without unlocking it?

[cayvie]

Um, so apparently the original thread can't be quoted anymore. Can that be fixed without unlocking it?

lol rockin the modtext in other threads i see

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I don't mind at all!  It is literally two seconds of effort and makes it way easier for people to click on "view all".  Just for fun I tried to click "All" on RMM3: my (work) computer crashed.

I can also make topics display more than 25 posts per page, but perhaps navigation is easier with that number?  But if you've thought to yourself, man I'd love to see 50 posts per page you should speak up and let me know.  It is a forum-wide setting apparently.

Posts per page can be set in personal options to 50 anyways

Yes - this is what I do and I love it.... except when people refer to page numbers.

Frisk - I've not really noticed, but am I the only person that uses page numbers in mafia?  If so, I can quit using them (it's actually more work to quote them).  I may go to 50/page myself.

[shraeye]

Man, I do it pretty frequently too.

[Axxle]

I use 10/page myself.  Makes each page less daunting.

[Ozle]

Um, so apparently the original thread can't be quoted anymore. Can that be fixed without unlocking it?

Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- NIGHT 2
« Reply #1991 on: October 11, 2012, 10:54:52 pm »
Day 3 will start in a new thread. Please do not post in this thread. We are going to have exactly 1,999 posts in this thread, so whenever anyone references a post number, you can simply add exactly 2,000.

Here is the Day 3 thread: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4983.0

[theory]

I'll unlock it then.  We'll just have to accept the risk of an all-Morgrim Mafia game.

[Robz888]

Thanks. Can we just delete/remove any posts that appear?

Morgrim actually hasn't checked in yet, or been online in 4 days. He better get back here! The only thing crazier than Morgrim would be making a FOURTH replacement to the game.

[Galzria]

Thanks. Can we just delete/remove any posts that appear?

Morgrim actually hasn't checked in yet, or been online in 4 days. He better get back here! The only thing crazier than Morgrim would be making a FOURTH replacement to the game.

I'll /in!

[Eevee]

playing irl mafia with family atm they all play so bad!

[Voltgloss]

playing irl mafia with family atm they all play so bad!

They're going to nightkill you Night 1 for knowing how to play.

Unless you're scum?  In which case, gg. 

[Robz888]

playing irl mafia with family atm they all play so bad!

It's VERY different, playing IRL. No pouring over people's past statements is the big thing. A bit of advice: Pay extra attention to votes. If somebody's scumpartner is up for vote, they are much more likely not to vote for that person because you don't always have time to weigh whether busing is desirable. Also, votes don't trickle in one at a time. Also, also, scum don't have days and days to decide who to kill.

Obviously it's a less rigorously strategic game, but still all-consuming and a lot of fun.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

playing irl mafia with family atm they all play so bad!

It's VERY different, playing IRL. No pouring over people's past statements is the big thing. A bit of advice: Pay extra attention to votes. If somebody's scumpartner is up for vote, they are much more likely not to vote for that person because you don't always have time to weigh whether busing is desirable. Also, votes don't trickle in one at a time. Also, also, scum don't have days and days to decide who to kill.

Obviously it's a less rigorously strategic game, but still all-consuming and a lot of fun.

Robz -Which do you prefer, online or IRL?

[Robz888]

playing irl mafia with family atm they all play so bad!

It's VERY different, playing IRL. No pouring over people's past statements is the big thing. A bit of advice: Pay extra attention to votes. If somebody's scumpartner is up for vote, they are much more likely not to vote for that person because you don't always have time to weigh whether busing is desirable. Also, votes don't trickle in one at a time. Also, also, scum don't have days and days to decide who to kill.

Obviously it's a less rigorously strategic game, but still all-consuming and a lot of fun.

Robz -Which do you prefer, online or IRL?

Well, I play a LOT more online, so I'm pretty partial to it, now. There's a lot more room for cool roles, since everything is written down. However, I will say that IRL mafia is TONS of fun with the right people. It's great stress-inducing fun. Everyone is so paranoid of each other.

[Galzria]

"Stress-Inducing Fun" - HA!

[Robz888]

"Stress-Inducing Fun" - HA!

You should see me in action. I generally have no voice the next day, because I rant so much and so loudly.

I had the pleasure of winning as mafia once when my two partners had both been killed. The Cop got them both, and we kept failing to shoot the Cop, because the Doctor was protecting her. Finally, we shot the Doctor. Then we shot the Cop. But by then, the "we" was just me... my scumbuddies were both dead. But I did it, friends. I held on. I did it by leaving alive all the best, most pro-town players, and they didn't come after me, because they thought scum-me would have started shooting them. With 4 people left, we mislynched, I shot, and that was game. Such a good feeling.

[cayvie]

I strongly prefer online.

In person, it tends to be, basically, a coin flip where the sides are weighted by who shouts the loudest.

The permanent record to reference makes actual arguments possible.

[Eevee]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

[yuma]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

[Eevee]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

Would be pretty epic if someone quoted this and said "now that you mention it..."

[Grujah]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

now that you mention it...

[yuma]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

now that you mention it...

/in

[Robz888]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

now that you mention it...

/in

Awesome, let's do it! I want to see the Pokemon in action.

[Eevee]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

now that you mention it...

/in

Awesome, let's do it! I want to see the Pokemon in action.

My scumhunting motto is "gotta catch 'em all!".

[Robz888]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

now that you mention it...

/in

Awesome, let's do it! I want to see the Pokemon in action.

My scumhunting motto is "gotta catch 'em all!".

Gotta find a non-Forum Games post so I give you a +1...

[Cuzz]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

I think New Jersey would be cheaper.

[yuma]

IRL mafia is a different kind of fun. More fun the more experience the players have I think (yesterday we had a guy claiming mafia as a doctor etc). I would still so want to make an IRL-like game with you guys happen, if for nothing else than to see Robz in action!

Does anyone here happen to be a multi-millionaire? They could pay for airfair and hotels to Italy where we can play mafia in the home of the Mafia.

-I for one am not a millionaire, however, if I were... this would be pretty high on my agenda of things to do-

I think New Jersey would be cheaper.

Yeah... but it is New Jersey

[theory]

Better quality full scene

[eHalcyon]

I have most things ready for RMM3.  Just want Volt to give it one last once-over.  I think he may be a bit busy too, so we might not start until tomorrow.  Sorry folks!

[cayvie]

I have most things ready for RMM3.  Just want Volt to give it one last once-over.  I think he may be a bit busy too, so we might not start until tomorrow.  Sorry folks!

>:|

[shraeye]

I have most things ready for RMM3.  Just want Volt to give it one last once-over.  I think he may be a bit busy too, so we might not start until tomorrow.  Sorry folks!

I have a super full day of travel tomorrow, I'm ok with a delay.  I don't want a repeat of day 2 where I show up for like the last 12 hours.

[Grujah]

Neeedd.. mafia.. People should confirm MIV faster!

[Galzria]

I'm... Mafialess...

[eHalcyon]

I'm... Mafialess...

O RLY?

[Galzria]

I'm... Mafialess...

O RLY?

Shush!

[Captain_Frisk]

Umm, can I suggest that the mod be mod killed for breaking the rules?

[Galzria]

Umm, can I suggest that the mod be mod killed for breaking the rules?

No. My statement stands. The mod is a troll.

[eHalcyon]

Umm, can I suggest that the mod be mod killed for breaking the rules?

No. My statement stands. The mod is a troll.

Or maybe you are!

My comment was a reference to your death breadcrumb.  I do not say whether there is any truth to it, of course.

[Ozle]

Haha, Cayvie loses the 'posted in the wrong Mafia XI thread' prize!

[cayvie]

Haha, Cayvie loses the 'posted in the wrong Mafia XI thread' prize!

>:|

[Dsell]

Oh yeah, I really like the player list in this game. Some good people! Not that the guys not in this game are any worse people. Eh..

Vote: Eevee

[Galzria]

Oh yeah, I really like the player list in this game. Some good people! Not that the guys not in this game are any worse people. Eh..

Vote: Eevee

Curse: Dsell* You may now only speak Chicken.

* - My ability to curse here is not reflective of any abilities I may or may not have in other games, and in no way should be associated with any possibilities that the power to do so exists within the realm of any role I may have.

[Dsell]

Oh yeah, I really like the player list in this game. Some good people! Not that the guys not in this game are any worse people. Eh..

Vote: Eevee

Curse: Dsell* You may now only speak Chicken.

* - My ability to curse here is not reflective of any abilities I may or may not have in other games, and in no way should be associated with any possibilities that the power to do so exists within the realm of any role I may have.

Obvscum

Chicken Vote: Galzria

[eHalcyon]

Who's not in RMM3?  You guys should come join the spectator thread!

[Captain_Frisk]

Who's not in RMM3?  You guys should come join the spectator thread!

I'll take the QT please.

[Ozle]

Who's not in RMM3?  You guys should come join the spectator thread!

Ok, send me the link please

[Galzria]

Who's not in RMM3?  You guys should come join the spectator thread!

Ok, send me the link please

I'm no longer in. I'll take it!

[Dsell]

Big congrats to Voltgloss on the arrival of his son!!

I'd post it in MXIV but I'm not in that game.

[Grujah]

Finally. Few minutes more and than I can go study.

[Voltgloss]

Chickeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen.

[Captain_Frisk]

Chicken Chicken talking about other games.

[Eevee]

Chicken Chicken talking about other games.

Chicken.

[jotheonah]

Most frustrating deadline ever.

[Insomniac]

Grr.

[Robz888]

I feel sick.

[Captain_Frisk]

Most frustrating deadline ever.

False.  Being forced to fake claim via phone while on vacation was worse.

[Insomniac]

/Out

[Eevee]

Wadap guys.

We seriously shouldn't talk about that game though.

[Jorbles]

Most frustrating deadline ever.

False.  Being forced to fake claim via phone while on vacation was worse.

i remember that. It almost worked out too.

[Ozle]

Robz wasnt scum again?!!?

[Jorbles]

If you'd like to discuss it in detail I can send you the QT.

[Ozle]

Not really, thats my standard comment now whenever i see robz gets lynched. No reflection on the game at all

[yuma]

Was listening to "Into the Woods" one of my favorite musicals ever and got to the song "Your Fault."

It reminded me a lot of playing mafia online, especially Day 2 immediately after a townie lynch.

Check it out

[Robz888]

Was listening to "Into the Woods" one of my favorite musicals ever and got to the song "Your Fault."

It reminded me a lot of playing mafia online, especially Day 2 immediately after a townie lynch.

Check it out

I can't believe you said that. You're not secretly my mother, are you? I ask because me and mom are big, big, big fans of "Into the Woods." It's the best thing ever, as far as musicals and fairy tales go. Plus 1 million points to you, friend.

[Captain_Frisk]

This thread has gone to a weird place.

[Voltgloss]

Huh.  I performed in Into the Woods back in high school, as the Narrator.  And years later I performed in it again in a local theatre production, as Cinderella's Prince.

Boom.  Squish!

[cayvie]

company > into the woods

[eHalcyon]

This thread has gone to a weird place.

Is that place in the woods?

[Robz888]

Huh.  I performed in Into the Woods back in high school, as the Narrator.  And years later I performed in it again in a local theatre production, as Cinderella's Prince.

Boom.  Squish!

Some of us don't like the way you've been telling it...

[Robz888]

I have the Bernadette Peters version--the best one, obviously--on DVD. So, so, so good. Into the Woods mafia? Not enough people would get it...

[yuma]

Was listening to "Into the Woods" one of my favorite musicals ever and got to the song "Your Fault."

It reminded me a lot of playing mafia online, especially Day 2 immediately after a townie lynch.

Check it out

I can't believe you said that. You're not secretly my mother, are you? I ask because me and mom are big, big, big fans of "Into the Woods." It's the best thing ever, as far as musicals and fairy tales go. Plus 1 million points to you, friend.

I am secretly your mother. How else am I supposed to keep track of my son? You don't call nearly often enough, especially since you moved so far away to that liberal District of Columbia.

But yes, I also love Into the Woods. I have only watched the film, but am thrilled that my local community theatre--which is pretty good for being a community theatre--is performing it next year. Great music, great story, great characters. I love the Witch, Bernadette Peters is at her best in that role.

[yuma]

I have the Bernadette Peters version--the best one, obviously--on DVD. So, so, so good. Into the Woods mafia? Not enough people would get it...

/in

[Voltgloss]

company > into the woods

I performed in Company too.  Smallish part (Paul) but still a blast.

Sondheim mafia?

[Galzria]

company > into the woods

I performed in Company too.  Smallish part (Paul) but still a blast.

Sondheim mafia?

/in

[Ozle]

Never heard of it.

[Ozle]

"Robz888 the Vanilla townie is dead"

Haha, I love Night Starts!

Thats got to HURT!

[Dsell]

"Robz888 the Vanilla townie is dead"

Haha, I love Night Starts!

Thats got to HURT!

Night start does seem pretty rough. At least he won't have to play without a power role...that must be unimaginable!

[Ozle]

Thank you scum for not killing me.  That would have been really mean.

This is how you know I wasn't Mafia...I sooo would have targeted you!

Although if I was a Doctor/Jailkeeper I would have protect Robz!

[Voltgloss]

Someone send these two the speccy thread!

[Robz888]

Lynched Day 1 in XIV, killed Night 1 in Blitz3, Killed Night 1 in XV. Not good, not good.

[Ozle]

And oi Mod! breaking Canon here!

"Ozle's mansion "

I think you will find its a CASTLE! Ozle wouldn't live in 'only' a Mansion! Appearence is very important to him!

[Voltgloss]

Robz, re: your sig:  Are you counting Mafia Goon as a PR?

[sparky5856]

I used to always play mafia with a night start. I was very often the one targeted the first night. Not good. >_<

[Insomniac]

Sorry Ozle, mod scum slip.

Does anybody here talking about it want the spec qt?

[Robz888]

Robz, re: your sig:  Are you counting Mafia Goon as a PR?

Oh absolutely. Anything with night actions or special things to do counts. I'd rather be a Goon than a VT any day of the week.

[Ozle]

Robz, re: your sig:  Are you counting Mafia Goon as a PR?

Oh absolutely. Anything with night actions or special things to do counts. I'd rather be a Goon than a VT any day of the week.

Scumslip.
Vote Robz888.....oh wait can't, he's already dead!

[Insomniac]

The problem is Robz goes straight from Bobby to RIP

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

The problem is Robz goes straight from Bobby to RIP

Wish I could +1 this.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Has the hydra game stopped?  There is no deadline on the lynch post that started the current night, and there has been no activity for 2 days.

[Insomniac]

Has the hydra game stopped?  There is no deadline on the lynch post that started the current night, and there has been no activity for 2 days.

Hmm SFS can't be paired with Robz because SURELY Robz was lynched day 1.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Has the hydra game stopped?  There is no deadline on the lynch post that started the current night, and there has been no activity for 2 days.

Hmm SFS can't be paired with Robz because SURELY Robz was lynched day 1.

[Dsell]

Has the hydra game stopped?  There is no deadline on the lynch post that started the current night, and there has been no activity for 2 days.

Hmm SFS can't be paired with Robz because SURELY Robz was lynched day 1.

Then I guess it'll be easy to guess 1/2 of whoever gets killed night 1 too.

[jotheonah]

I've taken the approach of not even trying to figure out the heads in that game. I'm approaching it as a game with 8 totally new players.

[Captain_Frisk]

Need to launch new game.

[Captain_Frisk]

Just send me my PM plz, ok? thx bye bye.

[Voltgloss]

Just send me my PM plz, ok? thx bye bye.

Done

[Galzria]

Need to launch new game.

Just send me my PM plz, ok? thx bye bye.

[Voltgloss]

Need to launch new game.

Just send me my PM plz, ok? thx bye bye.

Done

[Captain_Frisk]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[Eevee]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[Eevee]

anyone want to play some iso to wind down?

[shraeye]

i'm down.  deliver another beating, eevee?

[Captain_Frisk]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[yuma]

F5 F5 F5 F5

this is where people talk where it is night I think you are looking for where people talk when it is day.

[Insomniac]

Le sigh

[Galzria]

It's so... quiet around here...

[Eevee]

It's so... quiet around here...

I know. Last 10 f5's have yielded absolutely nothing. I feel like I'm the most recent poster in all my games.

[ashersky]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

[Cuzz]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

[ashersky]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

[ashersky]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

[Galzria]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

I have not.

[Eevee]

I liked Avengers.

[ashersky]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

The real answer: The Vampire Slayer.

[yuma]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

don't forget about Doctor Horrible... That is what introduced me to Buffy. Although I think that is backwards compared to most people.

[Galzria]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

don't forget about Doctor Horrible... That is what introduced me to Buffy. Although I think that is backwards compared to most people.

Doctor Horrible, I can support.

[Eevee]

I got aligned with the Evil League of Evil and watched the Dr Horrible thing for the first time not that long ago. It was entertaining!

[Galzria]

I got aligned with the Evil League of Evil and watched the Dr Horrible thing for the first time not that long ago. It was entertaining!

I should create a thread for all the poems written for the various games so they don't disappear into the oblivion of completed games.

[Axxle]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

don't forget about Doctor Horrible... That is what introduced me to Buffy. Although I think that is backwards compared to most people.

I saw the musical episode of Buffy at SDCC a year and a half ago with some friends.  That got me into it.

[cayvie]

i saw a couple isolated episodes in high school and didn't think much of it

then i saw firefly when it came out and loved it

i went back on hulu and watched buffy from the beginning and now it's my favorite show ever

[ashersky]

i saw a couple isolated episodes in high school and didn't think much of it

then i saw firefly when it came out and loved it

i went back on hulu and watched buffy from the beginning and now it's my favorite show ever

I prefer Buffy to Firefly, but prefer Angel to both.

[Cuzz]

I looooooooove Firefly and Dr. Horrible, so I'm sure I'd love Buffy. Tackling an entire completed series is such a daunting task though.

[jotheonah]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

don't forget about Doctor Horrible... That is what introduced me to Buffy. Although I think that is backwards compared to most people.

I saw the musical episode of Buffy at SDCC a year and a half ago with some friends.  That got me into it.

I was in a production of the musical episode with some friends. I was already pretty into Buffy by then though.

[ashersky]

I was in a production of the musical episode with some friends. I was already pretty into Buffy by then though.

How are you not signed up for my game???

[cayvie]

i saw a couple isolated episodes in high school and didn't think much of it

then i saw firefly when it came out and loved it

i went back on hulu and watched buffy from the beginning and now it's my favorite show ever

I prefer Buffy to Firefly, but prefer Angel to both.

angel includes season 4

sorry

[eHalcyon]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

The real answer: The Vampire Slayer.

She is the main character in the book that comes after the Twilight trilogy.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Waiting for yuma's game to start...my Buffy game needs to fill up.

People, join ash's Buffy game! It is a normal game so I'm told!

It's normal, and newbie-friendly.  It's just themed.  No Buffy knowledge required.

But really, shame on you if you have no Buffy knowledge.

Ok, I'll bite, who or what is Buffy?

Have you seen the Avengers movie?  She's what made that guy (director) famous.

I have not.

And I have not.  I googled Avengers (2012), and the noteworthy female actor appears to be Scarlett Johansen, who played "Black Widow".

Googled "Buffy" and got Buffy the Vampire Slayer = Sarah Michelle Gellar.

If "made that guy (director) famous" is a reference to Guy Ritchie, then I'm left with Madonna.

So I repeat, who or what is Buffy?

[Captain_Frisk]

Buffy = buffy the vampire slayer.

Avengers = directed by Joss Whedon - who was also the writer of that show.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Buffy = buffy the vampire slayer.

Avengers = directed by Joss Whedon - who was also the writer of that show.

Thank you sir.

[Jorbles]

I tried to see what was happening in BMVII. Biggest mistake I ever made. That game makes no sense.

[Galzria]

I tried to see what was happening in BMVII. Biggest mistake I ever made. That game makes no sense.

Nonsense! You just need to have a game PM to understand it.

[shraeye]

I tried to see what was happening in BMVII. Biggest mistake I ever made. That game makes no sense.

Nonsense! You just need to have a game PM to understand it.

Yeah man, the PM explains it all.

[cayvie]

I tried to see what was happening in BMVII. Biggest mistake I ever made. That game makes no sense.

"I assure you the pangs were fearful; you say you have never tasted arsenic? It is not agreeable. I am extremely sorry for all of them. I myself lingered on in great pain for several days; jotheonah would, I am sure, have demonstrated only the deepest sympathy for me, but by then, of course, she was largely unavailable. They arrested her at once."

[Eevee]

We dont celebrate thanksgiving in Finland, so all day I've been like 'so where is everyone all of a sudden". Games are staaaaaalling, fos thanksgiving!

Turkey is the thing I miss just about most from my time in Canada (lives there for four months when I was 17) though, so delicious. I hope everyone had a good one!

[Galzria]

We dont celebrate thanksgiving in Finland, so all day I've been like 'so where is everyone all of a sudden". Games are staaaaaalling, fos thanksgiving!

Turkey is the thing I miss just about most from my time in Canada (lives there for four months when I was 17) though, so delicious. I hope everyone had a good one!

All our close family friends with whom we spend Thanksgiving are huge game enthusiasts. I've spent all night playing Dominion (all expansions + promos) and Wise and Otherwise. I honestly haven't laughed this hard in years playing WaO. Such fun.

[Jorbles]

We dont celebrate thanksgiving in Finland, so all day I've been like 'so where is everyone all of a sudden". Games are staaaaaalling, fos thanksgiving!

Turkey is the thing I miss just about most from my time in Canada (lives there for four months when I was 17) though, so delicious. I hope everyone had a good one!

Where in Canada did you live? I am in Vancouver, and I know Insomniac is somewhere in this country. (My guess is Toronto, but I'm basing that solely on my perception of when he's online.)

[Insomniac]

We dont celebrate thanksgiving in Finland, so all day I've been like 'so where is everyone all of a sudden". Games are staaaaaalling, fos thanksgiving!

Turkey is the thing I miss just about most from my time in Canada (lives there for four months when I was 17) though, so delicious. I hope everyone had a good one!

Where in Canada did you live? I am in Vancouver, and I know Insomniac is somewhere in this country. (My guess is Toronto, but I'm basing that solely on my perception of when he's online.)

I always use pst for deadlines . I'm in Victoria

[Jorbles]

Oh cool, we're actually surprisingly close then. I will be sure to let you know of any nearby dominion tournaments. (there have been none to my knowledge)

[Insomniac]

Oh cool, we're actually surprisingly close then. I will be sure to let you know of any nearby dominion tournaments. (there have been none to my knowledge)

I actually help run dominion tourneys at my local store pretty often. (Every couple weeks) not super serious prize payput is store gift certificate (depending on how many people play the amounts and number of people paid change)

[Jorbles]

Oh cool, we're actually surprisingly close then. I will be sure to let you know of any nearby dominion tournaments. (there have been none to my knowledge)

I actually help run dominion tourneys at my local store pretty often. (Every couple weeks) not super serious prize payput is store gift certificate (depending on how many people play the amounts and number of people paid change)

Does the store provide the cards or does everyone have to bring their own? I've been thinking about doing this myself, but I've been too lazy to actually think through the logistics and organize it.

[Eevee]

We dont celebrate thanksgiving in Finland, so all day I've been like 'so where is everyone all of a sudden". Games are staaaaaalling, fos thanksgiving!

Turkey is the thing I miss just about most from my time in Canada (lives there for four months when I was 17) though, so delicious. I hope everyone had a good one!

Where in Canada did you live? I am in Vancouver, and I know Insomniac is somewhere in this country. (My guess is Toronto, but I'm basing that solely on my perception of when he's online.)

it was thunder bay, ontario. a big finnish community there apparently.

[Insomniac]

People bring their own. That said last tournament was run soley with my cards. (Small turnout)

[Morgrim7]

all my games are either in night or im dead

[Axxle]

all my games are either in night or im dead

the dead part hasn't stopped you

[yuma]

We dont celebrate thanksgiving in Finland, so all day I've been like 'so where is everyone all of a sudden". Games are staaaaaalling, fos thanksgiving!

Turkey is the thing I miss just about most from my time in Canada (lives there for four months when I was 17) though, so delicious. I hope everyone had a good one!

Where in Canada did you live? I am in Vancouver, and I know Insomniac is somewhere in this country. (My guess is Toronto, but I'm basing that solely on my perception of when he's online.)

Canada is pretty rad. I was in Toronto for two years, well Toronto and some of the outlying townships.

[Eevee]

M-m-m-m-mmafia-lull! All the games are at night at the same time.

[Galzria]

Must be time to launch another.

[Eevee]

Agreed.

[Captain_Frisk]

Isn't this always the case?  Send me my pm .

[Axxle]

Send me my pm .

[Captain_Frisk]

Whats with the new avatars? 

[ashersky]

You'll get Buffy when Casino is in N1.  I couldn't get enough to start Blitz today...

[Archetype]

Whats with the new avatars? 

TheMunch's game. You should come join!

[theory]

Archetype, your avatar doesn't load.

[Archetype]

Thanks, fixed!

[Axxle]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

[Archetype]

Come join BM9!   

[Dsell]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

You didn't join lolcats.

/shun

[Axxle]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

You didn't join lolcats.

/shun

im very particular with my bm games.  I dont like needless chaos.

Alsp signups are closed.

[Dsell]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

You didn't join lolcats.

/shun

im very particular with my bm games.  I dont like needless chaos.

Alsp signups are closed.

Psshhh missed your chance. And it'll be the most needFUL chaos you've ever seen!

[ashersky]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

Don't worry, Buffy is coming.

[Morgrim7]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

are you in BM7?

[cayvie]

Dead in all my games.  Yay.

are you in BM7?

no chaos there!

[Ozle]

To be honest, BM games where we get no info are pretty rubbish, they just die out and go slow.

The original bm's were better when we had some structure, day night snd all that and only some bastardness

[Eevee]

To be honest, BM games where we get no info are pretty rubbish, they just die out and go slow.

The original bm's were better when we had some structure, day night snd all that and only some bastardness

yeah, i like yhe BM games that run normal with ŕ few bastardly quirks better too. to each his own though.

[Archetype]

To be honest, BM games where we get no info are pretty rubbish, they just die out and go slow.

The original bm's were better when we had some structure, day night snd all that and only some bastardness

yeah, i like yhe BM games that run normal with ŕ few bastardly quirks better too. to each his own though.

That's sort of what I was aiming for with my game. Morgrim's BM game is just so...random.

[Morgrim7]

To be honest, BM games where we get no info are pretty rubbish, they just die out and go slow.

The original bm's were better when we had some structure, day night snd all that and only some bastardness

yeah, i like yhe BM games that run normal with ŕ few bastardly quirks better too. to each his own though.

That's sort of what I was aiming for with my game. Morgrim's BM game is just so...random.

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

[ashersky]

Hey people dead in too many games, I need a sub for MXVII, starts tomorrow.

[jotheonah]

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

It's a really strange experience reading a mafia game you are not in.  I'm reading ZM6, and keep wanting to post.

[Eevee]

It's a really strange experience reading a mafia game you are not in.  I'm reading ZM6, and keep wanting to post.

That's what spec QT's are for.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

It's a really strange experience reading a mafia game you are not in.  I'm reading ZM6, and keep wanting to post.

That's what spec QT's are for.

Noted, but I have no desire to read spec QTs. Too much ancillary/filtered/competing/contaminating data.

[Eevee]

It's a really strange experience reading a mafia game you are not in.  I'm reading ZM6, and keep wanting to post.

That's what spec QT's are for.

Noted, but I have no desire to read spec QTs. Too much ancillary/filtered/competing/contaminating data.

You don't necessarily have to read to throw in your own two cents!

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

It's a really strange experience reading a mafia game you are not in.  I'm reading ZM6, and keep wanting to post.

That's what spec QT's are for.

Noted, but I have no desire to read spec QTs. Too much ancillary/filtered/competing/contaminating data.

You don't necessarily have to read to throw in your own two cents!

Now that's a really excellent point that I never would have considered, so thanks for the fresh perspective.  Sort of a drop in, "here's my thought" thing.

Though if you put text in front of me, I'm GOING to read it, so I'm not sure I want to open that cookie jar.

[ashersky]

There isn't even a ZM6 speccy...no one asked.

[ashersky]

It's a really strange experience reading a mafia game you are not in.  I'm reading ZM6, and keep wanting to post.

That's what spec QT's are for.

Noted, but I have no desire to read spec QTs. Too much ancillary/filtered/competing/contaminating data.

You don't necessarily have to read to throw in your own two cents!

Now that's a really excellent point that I never would have considered, so thanks for the fresh perspective.  Sort of a drop in, "here's my thought" thing.

Though if you put text in front of me, I'm GOING to read it, so I'm not sure I want to open that cookie jar.

Save your thoughts and post in thread when the game ends.

[jotheonah]

Why I'm sad I replaced out of Buffy mafia (nothing to do with my role):

I would have liked to respond to a huge case on me by quoting and just writing "Bored now."

[cayvie]

Why I'm sad I replaced out of Buffy mafia (nothing to do with my role):

I would have liked to respond to a huge case on me by quoting and just writing "Bored now."

eeeee

[eHalcyon]

Why I'm sad I replaced out of Buffy mafia (nothing to do with my role):

I would have liked to respond to a huge case on me by quoting and just writing "Bored now."

Were you Willow?

[eHalcyon]

Oh, I finally finished the last season of Buffy a month or two ago and I hate how easily they dispatch the ubervamps in that final battle.  Maybe ubervamps are like ninjas, so they get weaker when they fight in large groups?  It still bothers me.  Also, it's fun to omit spoilers in random places to elicit curiosity.  EGGPLANTS...............

[ashersky]

Oh, I finally finished the last season of Buffy a month or two ago and I hate how easily they dispatch the ubervamps in that final battle.  Maybe ubervamps are like ninjas, so they get weaker when they fight in large groups?  It still bothers me.  Also, it's fun to omit spoilers in random places to elicit curiosity.  EGGPLANTS...............

Yeah, Buffy got weak in the last two seasons.  I preferred Angel by the end.

[cayvie]

i actually think season 7 holds up better on rewatch than on first viewing.

to me, i feel like seasons 1-6 complete a plot arc, and then 7 was just starting another one, and then there wasn't a show anymore.

[Axxle]

I've been debating on getting into the comics, but I hear they aren't as good.

[cayvie]

I've been debating on getting into the comics, but I hear they aren't as good.

pretty much

[jotheonah]

Why I'm sad I replaced out of Buffy mafia (nothing to do with my role):

I would have liked to respond to a huge case on me by quoting and just writing "Bored now."

Were you Willow?

I told you it had nothing to do with my role.

[Captain_Frisk]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[Axxle]

F5 F5 F5 F5

All /inned players immediately get their PMs...

[Galzria]

I just realized....

I'm in WAY too many games. It makes my head spin.

[Captain_Frisk]

I just realized....

I'm in WAY too many games. It makes my head spin.

+1 Playing catchup in 4 games at once was brutal.  I definitely got confused about who did what in what game.

[Galzria]

I just realized....

I'm in WAY too many games. It makes my head spin.

+1 Playing catchup in 4 games at once was brutal.  I definitely got confused about who did what in what game.

Yeah, I couldn't imagine taking a VLA right now.

[jotheonah]

It's a Tuesday! Why are forum games so dead?

Pokemon is moving like a Slowpoke.

Exciting game is in Night.

I'm dead in Morgrim's game (not that it matters) and soon to die in LOLcats.

And no one is asking my Zendo Questions. For that matter, no one is asking Donald X. regular questions.

It's like everyone suddenly has lives or something.

Mind you, I have a ton of stuff I should be doing at work right now, so I probably should look at this as a blessing and log out.

[Galzria]

Or you could come solve clues for us.

[jotheonah]

Man I have tried a bit and you guys are working way over my head!

[Galzria]

Man I have tried a bit and you guys are working way over my head!

We're working way over my head too, but that hasn't stopped me yet!

[Ozle]

I've been bumbling along since the start

The important thing at the moment is to answer more questions I think

[Voltgloss]

Or you could come solve clues for us.

What's this referencing?

[Captain_Frisk]

Or you could come solve clues for us.

What's this referencing?

The new secret forum that I didn't get an invite to.

FOS!

[Galzria]

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5740.0

OK, I've set up a membergroup.  If you go here, you can request access.  Ozle will be in charge of accepting members.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;area=groupmembership

I've already added Ozle, Galzria, Qvist, bozzball, Watno

The board is a child of Forum Games, you can see it there.  The link below won't work unless you're in the group.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=47.0

[Eevee]

...

[Insomniac]

STRESSED NEED A BREAK

[Dsell]

A certain game has been very interesting to spectate...

[Galzria]

A certain game has been very interesting to spectate...

+1

[Insomniac]

RAGE - SO MUCH RAGE

[jotheonah]

did something big happen in Buffy? or is it another game? or are you talking about the end of the last day in Helsinki?

[Dsell]

Blitz VII

[jotheonah]

ah. aha.

I guess I got to get in on the next blitz game. or maybe not, it looks quite stressful.

[theory]

It's a Tuesday! Why are forum games so dead?

Pokemon is moving like a Slowpoke.

Exciting game is in Night.

I'm dead in Morgrim's game (not that it matters) and soon to die in LOLcats.

And no one is asking my Zendo Questions. For that matter, no one is asking Donald X. regular questions.

It's like everyone suddenly has lives or something.

Mind you, I have a ton of stuff I should be doing at work right now, so I probably should look at this as a blessing and log out.

Zendo got kind of lame, not going to lie.  The really complex rules are not fun at all.  (And they don't sound complex, but rules are 10x more complex for the Petitioners than the Oracle.)

[Ozle]

Added all new peeps to treasure hunt forum.

[Eevee]

getting mislynched always leaves such an empty feeling.

[Captain_Frisk]

It's a Tuesday! Why are forum games so dead?

Pokemon is moving like a Slowpoke.

Exciting game is in Night.

I'm dead in Morgrim's game (not that it matters) and soon to die in LOLcats.

And no one is asking my Zendo Questions. For that matter, no one is asking Donald X. regular questions.

It's like everyone suddenly has lives or something.

Mind you, I have a ton of stuff I should be doing at work right now, so I probably should look at this as a blessing and log out.

Zendo got kind of lame, not going to lie.  The really complex rules are not fun at all.  (And they don't sound complex, but rules are 10x more complex for the Petitioners than the Oracle.)

I've heard that this is true of IRL zendo as well.

[jotheonah]

It's a Tuesday! Why are forum games so dead?

Pokemon is moving like a Slowpoke.

Exciting game is in Night.

I'm dead in Morgrim's game (not that it matters) and soon to die in LOLcats.

And no one is asking my Zendo Questions. For that matter, no one is asking Donald X. regular questions.

It's like everyone suddenly has lives or something.

Mind you, I have a ton of stuff I should be doing at work right now, so I probably should look at this as a blessing and log out.

Zendo got kind of lame, not going to lie.  The really complex rules are not fun at all.  (And they don't sound complex, but rules are 10x more complex for the Petitioners than the Oracle.)

But why did it have to get lame on MY turn?

[Ozle]

It's a Tuesday! Why are forum games so dead?

Pokemon is moving like a Slowpoke.

Exciting game is in Night.

I'm dead in Morgrim's game (not that it matters) and soon to die in LOLcats.

And no one is asking my Zendo Questions. For that matter, no one is asking Donald X. regular questions.

It's like everyone suddenly has lives or something.

Mind you, I have a ton of stuff I should be doing at work right now, so I probably should look at this as a blessing and log out.

Zendo got kind of lame, not going to lie.  The really complex rules are not fun at all.  (And they don't sound complex, but rules are 10x more complex for the Petitioners than the Oracle.)

But why did it have to get lame on MY turn?

Maybe it was your rule?

[theory]

It's a Tuesday! Why are forum games so dead?

Pokemon is moving like a Slowpoke.

Exciting game is in Night.

I'm dead in Morgrim's game (not that it matters) and soon to die in LOLcats.

And no one is asking my Zendo Questions. For that matter, no one is asking Donald X. regular questions.

It's like everyone suddenly has lives or something.

Mind you, I have a ton of stuff I should be doing at work right now, so I probably should look at this as a blessing and log out.

Zendo got kind of lame, not going to lie.  The really complex rules are not fun at all.  (And they don't sound complex, but rules are 10x more complex for the Petitioners than the Oracle.)

But why did it have to get lame on MY turn?

Maybe it was your rule?

Nah it was already lame before.  I found out some of the rules, and they were lame, and so now I assume that all subsequent rules are lame.

[cayvie]

Zendo got kind of lame, not going to lie.  The really complex rules are not fun at all.  (And they don't sound complex, but rules are 10x more complex for the Petitioners than the Oracle.)

I've heard that this is true of IRL zendo as well.

my favorite IRL zendo experience was troll zendo

there were like 5 of us playing, and one guy (Craig) went to the bathroom, and the rest of us were like "okay, let's all make incredibly easy rules, and then pretend like we can't solve them, to troll Craig"

we were using rules like "Every piece must be red" and "the koan must contain nothing other than one medium-sized piece" and it was awesome.

[jotheonah]

too bad. my rule's awesome.

[Eevee]

ALSO NOT HAVING A QT TO VENT IN IS SUPER FRUSTRATING.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

ah. aha.

I guess I got to get in on the next blitz game. or maybe not, it looks quite stressful.

You have to, I'm modding.

[Insomniac]

ALSO NOT HAVING A QT TO VENT IN IS SUPER FRUSTRATING.

Whats a QT?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

ALSO NOT HAVING A QT TO VENT IN IS SUPER FRUSTRATING.

Whats a QT?

This I freaking love.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Blitz twilights?  Should they be time limited?

Discuss.

(Not really.)

[Captain_Frisk]

I'm torn.  Twilights are awesome.  I won M5 because of it.  Is that unfair to scum?  I don't know.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

"If there's been a hammer". I want to post, hey dude, I hammered.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

One vote, two votes, red vote, blue vote.

[yuma]

I'm torn.  Twilights are awesome.  I won M5 because of it.  Is that unfair to scum?  I don't know.

I hate twilight for that very reason! That was my victory and you snatched it away... that and that stupid 2 hour bus ride of yours...

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

We went like 12 pages without a votecount, and it was wrong.  This is two pages and 4 votes.  What can be taking so long.  Is ash in a blitz mafia game?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I never realized there was another layer to posts that read:

F5, F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,

[Voltgloss]

"If there's been a hammer". I want to post, hey dude, I hammered.

I wasn't caught up yet, I just got the PM "hey we hammered," I always check first. 

[cayvie]

I never realized there was another layer to posts that read:

F5, F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,

what's the other layer?

[Captain_Frisk]

"If there's been a hammer". I want to post, hey dude, I hammered.

I wasn't caught up yet, I just got the PM "hey we hammered," I always check first. 

Troll mod is obv. troll...

[Insomniac]

Flip, Flip,  Flip,  Flip,  Flip,  Flip,  Flip

[Voltgloss]

Flipped.

Now all y'alls go take a nap or something 

[Eevee]

whats the story behind M5 twilight? everything before VI is a mystery to me.

[Captain_Frisk]

whats the story behind M5 twilight? everything before VI is a mystery to me.

Yuma, would you like to explain?

[yuma]

whats the story behind M5 twilight? everything before VI is a mystery to me.

Yuma, would you like to explain?

no....

[yuma]

here is the link though....

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=2893.675

[Eevee]

it's very hard to follow without knowing anything about the game. 

[yuma]

it's very hard to follow without knowing anything about the game. 

well we were about to lynch Robz with 2 scum still alive (O and myself) and 4 townies alive. It was a weird, but fun game where townies didn't know what their roles were, everyone but scum was really blind about it.

Well O derp hammered Robz even though I think Frisk was going to eventually... following that there was a really long twilight. Everyone was pretty much convinced that I was town. Some 100% sure of it. But the twilight put enough doubt into the mind of frisk that he was willing to try and shoot me (he didn't know he had Vig power role) and at the same time, someone (ehunt or Galz) shot O to kill both of us in the night and rob the victory we had so carefully crafted.

I am still not sure what convinced Frisk to shoot me.... but something did obviously.

[Voltgloss]

That game was bananas.

[Captain_Frisk]

It was lylo - 3 town 2 scum?

And we lynched wrong.

We were all unknown doctor variants.  I proposed (as is my way) some hair brained scheme, because town robz had super scummiky refused to do so.  The plan would have resulted in town loss, but scum hammer o gave himself away, and then we had. 2 hour twilight to figure out what was what and that the plan kind of sucked.

I switched my target and killed Yuma because I was in fact a CPR doctor ( unknown to me)

Someone - I think eHunt killed o, and we won the game through the power of twilight.

[Eevee]

Sounds fun, sad I missed it!

[yuma]

Sounds fun, sad I missed it!

yeah real fun having victory in your hands only to have it snatched away from you during the night... although you also know that feeling from MIII...

Those two games! I am surprised I continued to play mafia after them...

[Eevee]

Sounds fun, sad I missed it!

yeah real fun having victory in your hands only to have it snatched away from you during the night... although you also know that feeling from MIII...

Those two games! I am surprised I continued to play mafia after them...

Oh that game. The first time always feels special to everyone I guess, but wow it brings back memories.

[Captain_Frisk]

Sounds fun, sad I missed it!

yeah real fun having victory in your hands only to have it snatched away from you during the night... although you also know that feeling from MIII...

Those two games! I am surprised I continued to play mafia after them...

Oh that game. The first time always feels special to everyone I guess, but wow it brings back memories.

 M3?  The one where joth shot me night 1?  Welcome to forum mafia bitch!!!

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

"If there's been a hammer". I want to post, hey dude, I hammered.

I wasn't caught up yet, I just got the PM "hey we hammered," I always check first. 

I'm way cool with that, Volt.  I'm the first guy to encourage thoroughness, and you know I respect your modding skills.  I was just venting.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I never realized there was another layer to posts that read:

F5, F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,  F5,

what's the other layer?

I always thought it was scum refreshing to find a teammate posting the first step in a two-vote quick hammer.  I never thought it might be the simpler concept of tell me, tell me, tell me...

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I've opened BlitzVIII. Read the OP to enter.  Don't assume you're in just because you "in'd", if you skipped the OP during thread construction, you missed the fact that the thread was locked during said construction.

[jotheonah]

It's nice to see M5 getting some love, since its definitely going to lose the flavor award it's up for.

[ashersky]

Not that many folks left alive in ZM7.  Get back to Buffy, the only regular game in day right now!

[Dsell]

Also go post in lolcats or I will find a creative way to modmurder you.

[Archetype]

Also go post in lolcats or I will find a creative way to modmurder you.

Ok!

[Eevee]

Lol I forgot to report, played IRL mafia today and got totally crushed. Dangit. We played four games, I was killed night 1 twice, endgamed myself / my team in a true MIII manner (should have fakeclaimed cop before anyone gets a word in edgewise, opened with "Okay the cop needs to claim asap!" instead...) and moderated one game. Also replaced into one game after day 1 only to see myself killed again n2 (we use night starts). Still was fun though. I have a friend visiting from canada, so we even played in english. I found myself yelling "LYNCH ALL LURKERS!" and no one had a clue what I meant.

[Archetype]

How many people did you end up playing with? When I play IRL, I have a hard time getting even 6 people to play.

[Insomniac]

Not that many folks left alive in ZM7.  Get back to Buffy, the only regular game in day right now!

 

[sparky5856]

I need aspirin.

[Dsell]

.......................

[Robz888]

Lol I forgot to report, played IRL mafia today and got totally crushed. Dangit. We played four games, I was killed night 1 twice, endgamed myself / my team in a true MIII manner (should have fakeclaimed cop before anyone gets a word in edgewise, opened with "Okay the cop needs to claim asap!" instead...) and moderated one game. Also replaced into one game after day 1 only to see myself killed again n2 (we use night starts). Still was fun though. I have a friend visiting from canada, so we even played in english. I found myself yelling "LYNCH ALL LURKERS!" and no one had a clue what I meant.

Eevee you should come visit me in the States.

[Galzria]

I need aspirin.

[Eevee]

Lol I forgot to report, played IRL mafia today and got totally crushed. Dangit. We played four games, I was killed night 1 twice, endgamed myself / my team in a true MIII manner (should have fakeclaimed cop before anyone gets a word in edgewise, opened with "Okay the cop needs to claim asap!" instead...) and moderated one game. Also replaced into one game after day 1 only to see myself killed again n2 (we use night starts). Still was fun though. I have a friend visiting from canada, so we even played in english. I found myself yelling "LYNCH ALL LURKERS!" and no one had a clue what I meant.

Eevee you should come visit me in the States.

Careful what you wish for. I'm very bored a lot.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Lol I forgot to report, played IRL mafia today and got totally crushed. Dangit. We played four games, I was killed night 1 twice, endgamed myself / my team in a true MIII manner (should have fakeclaimed cop before anyone gets a word in edgewise, opened with "Okay the cop needs to claim asap!" instead...) and moderated one game. Also replaced into one game after day 1 only to see myself killed again n2 (we use night starts). Still was fun though. I have a friend visiting from canada, so we even played in english. I found myself yelling "LYNCH ALL LURKERS!" and no one had a clue what I meant.

Eevee you should come visit me in the States.

Careful what you wish for. I'm very bored a lot.

Eevee, you should come visit me in the States.

[Dsell]

People who observed Blitz VIII should come talk to me in the spec QT. I need to vent.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Everybody, support a brother. PM me if you want the speccy QT for ZM8.  Dsell needs your voices.

[Galzria]

Can I have it? I was watching that thread.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Can I have it? I was watching that thread.

Very funny.

NOT!

[Eevee]

la la la la la la.

[Archetype]

So, how about that Tabula Rasa?

[ashersky]

So, how about that Tabula Rasa?

Quite interesting, I'd say.

[Robz888]

...

[Voltgloss]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[Galzria]

F5 F5 F5 F5

Hey, I woulda given it to you, but SOMEBODY went and actually LOCKED the thread on me, so now I can't post.

[yuma]

F5 F5 F5 F5

Hey, I woulda given it to you, but SOMEBODY went and actually LOCKED the thread on me, so now I can't post.

what a jerk!

[Galzria]

F5 F5 F5 F5

Hey, I woulda given it to you, but SOMEBODY went and actually LOCKED the thread on me, so now I can't post.

what a jerk!

Yeah! I know, right!?!

[Eevee]

suddenly everything is in night!

[yuma]

suddenly everything is in night!

FOS everyone not in joth's game!

[sparky5856]

/rage

/i missed all the action

/f.ds's biggest lurker

[Archetype]

Go get in Pokemon! It's just Tables, me and Galz right now.

[jotheonah]

sparky, I know you want to play my cool Star Trek game.

[Eevee]

/anticipation

[ashersky]

Sigh.  Again.

[raerae]

sparky, I know you want to play my cool Star Trek game.

Yay joth for guilt-trippin'!

[Galzria]

F5F5F5 F5F5F5 F5F5F5 F5F5F5

[Ozle]

Hahahahaha

[Ozle]

Sorry, we are going to have to stop all Mafia related games
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9803443/Corleone-apologises-for-decades-of-Mafia-murders.html

[Jorbles]

Sorry, we are going to have to stop all Mafia related games
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9803443/Corleone-apologises-for-decades-of-Mafia-murders.html

When will the Werewolves apologize though?

[Eevee]

It's so dead in here!

[Galzria]

It's so dead in here!

I've forgotten what game (s) I'm in, but I think they're all in Night.

[ashersky]

Vote: Galzria for eating lunch instead of providing flips.

[jotheonah]

Vote: No Lunch for Galz until he posts a flip.

[eHalcyon]

Vote: No Lunch for Galz until he posts a flip.

Motherflippin.

[Robz888]

.......

[Ozle]

Best.....Flip.....Ever

[ashersky]

.......

Let's put a pin in this to chat about after the game...

[eHalcyon]

Good thing I'm not a troll mod, right?

...

[ashersky]

Good thing I'm not a troll mod, right?

...

It's RMM, not BM...right?

[eHalcyon]

Good thing I'm not a troll mod, right?

...

It's RMM, not BM...right?

The flip is legit. 

[Jorbles]

Hahahaha, oh man. That has never happened before. Oh wait, yes it has... to Robz. Something about how Robz plays Cops just rubs off scummy.

[Galzria]

FoS you all. You're all scum. You hear me? LYNCH all the people who posted in this thread...

... EVER!

Don't worry, I lynched my lunch. I lynched it good. Too bad YOU all lynched Robz harder! Bwahahahaha!

Ahh.... I don't know if I should laugh or cry. But seriously, FoS everybody in that game for killing off one of my all time favorite movie characters first. Nick Charles can't die! He's freaking Nick Charles! WAY to much class to actually be killed!

:SadMod:

[raerae]

FoS you all. You're all scum. You hear me? LYNCH all the people who posted in this thread...

... EVER!

Don't worry, I lynched my lunch. I lynched it good. Too bad YOU all lynched Robz harder! Bwahahahaha!

Ahh.... I don't know if I should laugh or cry. But seriously, FoS everybody in that game for killing off one of my all time favorite movie characters first. Nick Charles can't die! He's freaking Nick Charles! WAY to much class to actually be killed!

:SadMod:

Crazy Train is the theme song of this post.

[Eevee]

Just found surprisingly cheap flights to miami for the beginning of next month, time to conquer america! I actually don't have any plans whatsoever, coming with a friend and planning on probably going to see some sports and that's it. If someone wants to go grab a beer or play dominion or whatever, pm me or post here.  I don't yet know what cities I'll be visiting, basically going anywhere that looks potentially fun.

[Robz888]

Just found surprisingly cheap flights to miami for the beginning of next month, time to conquer america! I actually don't have any plans whatsoever, coming with a friend and planning on probably going to see some sports and that's it. If someone wants to go grab a beer or play dominion or whatever, pm me or post here.  I don't yet know what cities I'll be visiting, basically going anywhere that looks potentially fun.

Eevee!!! OMGosh please come to DC!

[Eevee]

Just found surprisingly cheap flights to miami for the beginning of next month, time to conquer america! I actually don't have any plans whatsoever, coming with a friend and planning on probably going to see some sports and that's it. If someone wants to go grab a beer or play dominion or whatever, pm me or post here.  I don't yet know what cities I'll be visiting, basically going anywhere that looks potentially fun.

Eevee!!! OMGosh please come to DC!

Yea, I absolutely will!

[Robz888]

Yay!!!!!

[yuma]

Just found surprisingly cheap flights to miami for the beginning of next month, time to conquer america! I actually don't have any plans whatsoever, coming with a friend and planning on probably going to see some sports and that's it. If someone wants to go grab a beer or play dominion or whatever, pm me or post here.  I don't yet know what cities I'll be visiting, basically going anywhere that looks potentially fun.

if you have any reason to visit Salt Lake City--honestly I don't know why you would... except to visit me!... we would find something adventurous to do. But if you are flying into Miami I kinda doubt you will make it this far west... SLC is kinda isolated from the rest of the country in my opinion.

[Dsell]

Just found surprisingly cheap flights to miami for the beginning of next month, time to conquer america! I actually don't have any plans whatsoever, coming with a friend and planning on probably going to see some sports and that's it. If someone wants to go grab a beer or play dominion or whatever, pm me or post here.  I don't yet know what cities I'll be visiting, basically going anywhere that looks potentially fun.

Eevee!!! OMGosh please come to DC!

Yea, I absolutely will!

I am jealous!

[Eevee]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

[Insomniac]

Come up to Canada!

[Robz888]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

Yes! This is so excellent.

Seriously, all Forum Games people should come visit me in DC. You think I'm fun online? Just wait til you meet me in person! I know all the hip jive stuff, yo.

[Jimmmmm]

We should plan a Mega F.DS IRL Dominion/Mafia Tournament. Only problem is you're all so far away.

[jotheonah]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

Go to the Member Map thread and then plot the course that hits the highest density of F.DSers.

[Eevee]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

Go to the Member Map thread and then plot the course that hits the highest density of F.DSers.

But that would be creepy! Seems much more normal to post here to find out the people who actually WANT me to come visit.

[Jimmmmm]

Come visit me in Melbourne. Really! It's not THAT far away.

Okay, it's pretty far away.

[Ozle]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

Go to the Member Map thread and then plot the course that hits the highest density of F.DSers.

But that would be creepy! Seems much more normal to post here to find out the people who actually WANT me to come visit.

Bring a hot, female, single friend and you can come visit me.

[Galzria]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

Go to the Member Map thread and then plot the course that hits the highest density of F.DSers.

But that would be creepy! Seems much more normal to post here to find out the people who actually WANT me to come visit.

Bring a hot, female, single friend and you can come visit me.

Bring two and you can come visit ME.

[jotheonah]

Yeah, the plan is to fly to Miami and at some point move toward New York (likely just fly there, we were thinking about driving around until we realized how ridiculous the distance is), so Robz's lair fits into that nicely and destinations in the west a little less nicely. My friend was planning on flying home from NY, so I'll likely just stay back after he leaves and go to Washington + wherever else then. That's the plan at the moment anyways!

Go to the Member Map thread and then plot the course that hits the highest density of F.DSers.

But that would be creepy! Seems much more normal to post here to find out the people who actually WANT me to come visit.

It would be creepy if it didn't also lead you to some of the best cities the U.S.ofA. has to offer. You could do a lot worse than just making your way up the East Coast.

[jotheonah]

What I'm saying is, come to Boston, we'll hang out.

[Ozle]

Side note:

Suggestions on the Voltgloss, situation?
He ok?
Anyone have outside contact with him?

[Galzria]

Side note:

Suggestions on the Voltgloss, situation?
He ok?
Anyone have outside contact with him?

Haven't heard, but I'm a little concerned. It's really not at all like him, especially since he was actively participating (and with some level of enthusiasm) right up until he went MIA.

[Cuzz]

What I'm saying is, come to Boston, we'll hang out.

2nd'd.

[theory]

It's not totally unreasonable to drive up the East Coast, though it would take a while, especially if you want to experience more than just the Great I-95.  How long do you have?

[jotheonah]

Side note:

Suggestions on the Voltgloss, situation?
He ok?
Anyone have outside contact with him?

It's been 11 days. But Volt has a lot of work and family commitments, it's possible he's just been swamped. It's been a brutal flu season, and he has several kids running around IIRC. It would be nice for him to check in though.

[theory]

I sent him an email.

[Insomniac]

Side note:

Suggestions on the Voltgloss, situation?
He ok?
Anyone have outside contact with him?

I emailed him yesterday. Haven heard back yet

[Eevee]

Come visit me in Melbourne. Really! It's not THAT far away.

Okay, it's pretty far away.

You all live in such interesting places! I've never been to Australia and sure would want to. Kangaroos!

Bring a hot, female, single friend and you can come visit me.

I'll tell them about your castle and wealth, and leave out the part about the castle blowing up and everyone hating you, I'm sure they'll be lining up to join!

What I'm saying is, come to Boston, we'll hang out.

2nd'd.

If I'm not entirely mistaken about the location of this place, oh yes please! (Oh no, no one ever taught me any American geography, why would they have. But like 300 miles or so?)

It's not totally unreasonable to drive up the East Coast, though it would take a while, especially if you want to experience more than just the Great I-95.  How long do you have?

Oh, time I do have. What I don't have is a driver's license. Is the train network of any use there? Say between NY and Boston or whatever shorter distances there may be. I'm really fine with just flying too though, I've understood the tickets are pretty reasonably priced even if you only book them a couple days in advance?

Side note:

Suggestions on the Voltgloss, situation?
He ok?
Anyone have outside contact with him?

It's been 11 days. But Volt has a lot of work and family commitments, it's possible he's just been swamped. It's been a brutal flu season, and he has several kids running around IIRC. It would be nice for him to check in though.

Uhm yeah, lets hope he is alright and just busy. :/

Multiquoting in a spam thread, now if I only wrote posts this long in actual mafia threads!

[Axxle]

Guessing Southern California's a bit too far out of your way?

[Eevee]

Guessing Southern California's a bit too far out of your way?

Your country is so big! Look improbable, unless I stay in there a very long time. 

[Ozle]

Can't we all just come to Finland?

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I want to be
Pony trekking or camping
Or just watching TV
Finland, Finland, Finland
It's the country for me

You're so near to Russia
So far from Japan
Quite a long way from Cairo
Lots of miles from Vietnam

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I want to be
Eating breakfast or dinner
Or snack lunch in the hall
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland has it all

You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored
A poor second to Belgium
When going abroad

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I quite want to be
Your mountains so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland has it all

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I quite want to be
Your mountains so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland has it all

Finland has it all

[Galzria]

Can't we all just come to Finland?

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I want to be
Pony trekking or camping
Or just watching TV
Finland, Finland, Finland
It's the country for me

You're so near to Russia
So far from Japan
Quite a long way from Cairo
Lots of miles from Vietnam

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I want to be
Eating breakfast or dinner
Or snack lunch in the hall
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland has it all

You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored
A poor second to Belgium
When going abroad

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I quite want to be
Your mountains so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland has it all

Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I quite want to be
Your mountains so lofty
Your treetops so tall
Finland, Finland, Finland
Finland has it all

Finland has it all

I sang this entire song two days ago while playing Monty Python Fluxx. They couldn't shut me up! Bwahahaha!

Although, Ozle, I would've thought that the Lumberjack Song was more your style.

[Ozle]

You would be wrong, well especially when talking about Finland!

Thats more a Norway song....although not as much related to Norway as the Kenya song!
 

[jotheonah]

It's not totally unreasonable to drive up the East Coast, though it would take a while, especially if you want to experience more than just the Great I-95.  How long do you have?

Oh, time I do have. What I don't have is a driver's license. Is the train network of any use there? Say between NY and Boston or whatever shorter distances there may be. I'm really fine with just flying too though, I've understood the tickets are pretty reasonably priced even if you only book them a couple days in advance?

What you have there is a beautiful, beautiful train called the Acela Express, the train on which I once met Emma Watson.

(Met is a strong word, actually, but I saw her in the dining car, she smiled at me, and I completely froze up for several minutes.)

[jotheonah]

Alternately, you can take the Chinatown bus for $15 and the ride of your life.

[Ozle]

Alternately, you can take the Chinatown bus for $15 and the ride of your life.

SOLD!

[Galzria]

It's not totally unreasonable to drive up the East Coast, though it would take a while, especially if you want to experience more than just the Great I-95.  How long do you have?

Oh, time I do have. What I don't have is a driver's license. Is the train network of any use there? Say between NY and Boston or whatever shorter distances there may be. I'm really fine with just flying too though, I've understood the tickets are pretty reasonably priced even if you only book them a couple days in advance?

What you have there is a beautiful, beautiful train called the Acela Express, the train on which I once met Emma Watson.

(Met is a strong word, actually, but I saw her in the dining car, she smiled at me, and I completely froze up for several minutes.)

Tch. Missed your chance, didn't you?

[Ozle]

It's not totally unreasonable to drive up the East Coast, though it would take a while, especially if you want to experience more than just the Great I-95.  How long do you have?

Oh, time I do have. What I don't have is a driver's license. Is the train network of any use there? Say between NY and Boston or whatever shorter distances there may be. I'm really fine with just flying too though, I've understood the tickets are pretty reasonably priced even if you only book them a couple days in advance?

What you have there is a beautiful, beautiful train called the Acela Express, the train on which I once met Emma Watson.

(Met is a strong word, actually, but I saw her in the dining car, she smiled at me, and I completely froze up for several minutes.)

Tch. Missed your chance, didn't you?

I like to think she had a lucky escape....

[Galzria]

It's not totally unreasonable to drive up the East Coast, though it would take a while, especially if you want to experience more than just the Great I-95.  How long do you have?

Oh, time I do have. What I don't have is a driver's license. Is the train network of any use there? Say between NY and Boston or whatever shorter distances there may be. I'm really fine with just flying too though, I've understood the tickets are pretty reasonably priced even if you only book them a couple days in advance?

What you have there is a beautiful, beautiful train called the Acela Express, the train on which I once met Emma Watson.

(Met is a strong word, actually, but I saw her in the dining car, she smiled at me, and I completely froze up for several minutes.)

Tch. Missed your chance, didn't you?

I like to think she had a lucky escape....

Yes, but we shouldn't tell HIM that.

[Ozle]

Ok, lets keep it between you and I....

[jotheonah]

It's possibly the greatest regret of my life to date.

[Robz888]

It's possibly the greatest regret of my life to date.

Well, if you had a Time Turner...

[theory]

It's possibly the greatest regret of my life to date.

Well, if you had a Time Turner...

You could use it to save the world?  Save Harry's parents?  Stop the rise of Voldemort? 

Nah, just use it so you can take Arithmancy and Divination.

[Robz888]

It's possibly the greatest regret of my life to date.

Well, if you had a Time Turner...

You could use it to save the world?  Save Harry's parents?  Stop the rise of Voldemort? 

Nah, just use it so you can take Arithmancy and Divination.

I love Harry Potter. I also love the logical holes in the plot.

Why do the bad wizards ever have to "fight" or "duel" the good wizards? The good wizards are prohibited from using "Avada Kedavra." It's an illegal curse. The bad wizards, obviously, don't care that it's illegal. It's also unblockable! So why would the bad wizards ever use any spell other than "Avada Kedavra?" There should be no back and forth fighting. The good wizard uses "Expelliarmus!" or something equally lame, and the bad wizard uses "Avada Kedavra." And the good wizard dies, because it's unblockable. End of story.

[Robz888]

Maybe "Avada Kedavra" rapidly depletes your Magic Meter, or something. But if that's the case, it's something JK Rowling never spells out. (But perhaps only because she's too busy posthumously declaring characters gay.)

[eHalcyon]

Maybe "Avada Kedavra" rapidly depletes your Magic Meter, or something. But if that's the case, it's something JK Rowling never spells out. (But perhaps only because she's too busy posthumously declaring characters gay.)

I'm going to guess that Avada Kedavra just takes too long to say in a proper duel.  Then again, Expelliarmus is a mouthful as well.  Maybe the latter is easier to do without incantation, while the former is too difficult for most.

[Cuzz]

Man don't even get me started....

Fred and George owned the Marauder's Map for years before giving it to Harry. They weren't concerned about their younger brother sleeping with a middle aged dead wizard each night?

[eHalcyon]

Man don't even get me started....

Fred and George owned the Marauder's Map for years before giving it to Harry. They weren't concerned about their younger brother sleeping with a middle aged dead wizard each night?

Fred and George were very open minded people.

[Robz888]

Maybe "Avada Kedavra" rapidly depletes your Magic Meter, or something. But if that's the case, it's something JK Rowling never spells out. (But perhaps only because she's too busy posthumously declaring characters gay.)

I'm going to guess that Avada Kedavra just takes too long to say in a proper duel.  Then again, Expelliarmus is a mouthful as well.  Maybe the latter is easier to do without incantation, while the former is too difficult for most.

Yeah, okay, so why doesn't everyone just use "Reducto!"? "Reducto" just obliterates you. And it's easy to say. And it's not illegal! That's actually a nice work-around for the good wizards. The spell that just plain kills you is illegal, but the one that implodes you is fine. I think Ginny uses it on a dark wizard in Book 5, or something.

[Cuzz]

It's possibly the greatest regret of my life to date.

Well, if you had a Time Turner...

You could use it to save the world?  Save Harry's parents?  Stop the rise of Voldemort? 

Nah, just use it so you can take Arithmancy and Divination.

Save innocent wizards? Nah.

Save an innocent hippogriff? Let's roll.

[Robz888]

"I think 5 turns of the Time Turner should suffice," said Dumbeldore to Hermione and a perplexed Harry.

"What is he on about?" asked Harry.

"He wants me to use my time travel device to rescue Sirius and Buckbeak," answered Hermione.

"Right on, wicked! Hey, why don't you wind it back a little further?"

50 years earlier, Harry and Hermione apparate over to the Riddle home, where they observe baby Tom, the future Voldemort.

"Reducto!" shouted Harry, pointing his wand at the baby's face.

And they all lived happily ever after.

[Axxle]

"I think 5 turns of the Time Turner should suffice," said Dumbeldore to Hermione and a perplexed Harry.

"What is he on about?" asked Harry.

"He wants me to use my time travel device to rescue Sirius and Buckbeak," answered Hermione.

"Right on, wicked! Hey, why don't you wind it back a little further?"

50 years earlier, Harry and Hermione apparate over to the Riddle home, where they observe baby Tom, the future Voldemort.

"Reducto!" shouted Harry, pointing his wand at the baby's face.

And they all lived happily ever after.

Harry couldn't apparate during book 3.  So farfetched...

[jotheonah]

You know, you can probably find a JK Rowling answer for every one of these plot holes Not necessarily good answers, but answers. She's historically been pretty Donald Xish about engaging/ bickering with fans (the difference being that she had far, far more and crazier folks to contend with).

[eHalcyon]

You know, you can probably find a JK Rowling answer for every one of these plot holes Not necessarily good answers, but answers. She's historically been pretty Donald Xish about engaging/ bickering with fans (the difference being that she had far, far more and crazier folks to contend with).

I haven't read such things, but my answer would be that messing with time is dangerous business.  To mess with something mundane like taking extra classes, well, that's small enough that it's alright.  But to undo an entire war, that's too big to handle.  The rewards could be great, certainly, but who knows what the risks are.

Also, time travel is weird stuff.  Since in the past Voldemort wasn't stopped, that means going back in time to stop him would not work.  Because it never happened.  All the stuff with Buckbeak did happen, so it was OK when the trio went back to save him.  Because they had already saved him. 

[eHalcyon]

But hey, here you go guys:

[Ozle]

Its almost as if none of it were real......

[jotheonah]

You know, you can probably find a JK Rowling answer for every one of these plot holes Not necessarily good answers, but answers. She's historically been pretty Donald Xish about engaging/ bickering with fans (the difference being that she had far, far more and crazier folks to contend with).

I haven't read such things, but my answer would be that messing with time is dangerous business.  To mess with something mundane like taking extra classes, well, that's small enough that it's alright.  But to undo an entire war, that's too big to handle.  The rewards could be great, certainly, but who knows what the risks are.

Also, time travel is weird stuff.  Since in the past Voldemort wasn't stopped, that means going back in time to stop him would not work.  Because it never happened.  All the stuff with Buckbeak did happen, so it was OK when the trio went back to save him.  Because they had already saved him. 

Exactly. Prisoner of Azkaban is one of the best examples of a consistent closed causal loop in time travel fiction.

[Ozle]

Maybe "Avada Kedavra" rapidly depletes your Magic Meter, or something. But if that's the case, it's something JK Rowling never spells out. (But perhaps only because she's too busy posthumously declaring characters gay.)

I'm going to guess that Avada Kedavra just takes too long to say in a proper duel.  Then again, Expelliarmus is a mouthful as well.  Maybe the latter is easier to do without incantation, while the former is too difficult for most.

Even the wiki answers this.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Killing_Curse

Takes too much skill and concentration to use unless you are awesome

[Robz888]

Maybe "Avada Kedavra" rapidly depletes your Magic Meter, or something. But if that's the case, it's something JK Rowling never spells out. (But perhaps only because she's too busy posthumously declaring characters gay.)

I'm going to guess that Avada Kedavra just takes too long to say in a proper duel.  Then again, Expelliarmus is a mouthful as well.  Maybe the latter is easier to do without incantation, while the former is too difficult for most.

Even the wiki answers this.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Killing_Curse

Takes too much skill and concentration to use unless you are awesome

That doesn't imply to me that it takes like an overriding amount of skill to use it, just that fourth graders can't use it willy nilly. Just like they can't apparate the first time they try it, but eventually every wizard with half a brain can do it.

Or, Magic Meters!

[Eevee]

I was like 10 when I started reading the harry potters, so i fell in love with them early enough to not mind any plot holes. I still read through them every couple of years, good times. 

in other news, whats up with killing me in two of my three games when i'm having my peaceful night time rest! Grrr, it's like getting Jimmm'd but twice as bad!

[Jimmmmm]

Grrr, it's like getting Jimmm'd but twice as bad!

Hehe, welcome to the club.

[Axxle]

Well, I guess you're just going to have to move a few timezones to the west.

[Insomniac]

in other news, whats up with killing me in two of my three games when i'm having my peaceful night time rest! Grrr, it's like getting Jimmm'd but twice as bad!

Seems your resting wasn't as peaceful as you'd hoped, now your swimming with the fishes

[Axxle]

Bobbing along on the bottom of the beautiful briny sea..

[Ozle]

Lookie look, morgrims back!

[Insomniac]

Lookie look, morgrims back!

Shhh, you'll scare him away.

[Galzria]

Need a replacement for Mafia Noir (RMM-V) as soon as possible. Please PM me if you're available!

[Morgrim7]

Lookie look, morgrims back!

Shhh, you'll scare him away.

hahaha the only thing that might scare me away would be making me a VT in the RMM game. Talking about Harry Potter are we? Love that series. I'm on the Order of the Phoenix; started a couple weeks ago. Excellent writing.

[jotheonah]

Lookie look, morgrims back!

Shhh, you'll scare him away.

hahaha the only thing that might scare me away would be making me a VT in the RMM game. Talking about Harry Potter are we? Love that series. I'm on the Order of the Phoenix; started a couple weeks ago. Excellent writing.

Someone get this man a slowpoke meme!

Need a replacement for Mafia Noir (RMM-V) as soon as possible. Please PM me if you're available!

I'll do it!

[eHalcyon]

So, that lolcats game.  If I were to post in there, I would say that it is foolish to reduce a Survivor's wincon to "not ours".  It looks like there have already been 3 Mafia and 2 SK killed, plus 1 unknown.  Possibly there is just 1 Mafia or SK left, so the Survivor would side with the town.  And I would be suspicious of those who are just closing in on the easy lynch.

But I am not posting in there.  Hummmm.  

[Insomniac]

This week is really slow for content, is something going on I was uninformed of!?

[Ozle]

*closes curtains again quickly*

SSSSHHH everyone, if we are quiet he might leave before he realises we are all having a party without him.

[jotheonah]

Well I mean, most of us are at Ozle's place, for his 3-day annual crazy party.

Did your invite get lost in the mail or something?

PPE: Really weirdly specifically ninjad

[Ozle]

Well I mean, most of us are at Ozle's place, for his 3-day annual crazy party.

Did your invite get lost in the mail or something?

PPE: Really weirdly specifically ninjad

You just came up with the same idea as Ozle, and also referenced Ozle. Must have a similar mindset.

I bet that worries you...

[jotheonah]

Yes. But perhaps I can use my newfound Ozle-telepathy to figure out the setup in MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMII.

[Ozle]

Yes. But perhaps I can use my newfound Ozle-telepathy to figure out the setup in MMMMMMMMMMMMMMII.

FTFY

[Eevee]

Playing someone called Fluttershyisbestpony on iso. First thought was "oh, I didn't know Galzria played dominion too!"

[Galzria]

Playing someone called Fluttershyisbestpony on iso. First thought was "oh, I didn't know Galzria played dominion too!"

....

Of course I do! I'm pro, yo!

Actually, I got my start here on the forums in the Solo-Challenge games. I love the logic behind finding absolute optimal solutions. Ozle will remember, since it was his challenges that really drew me in to begin with way back when. (You can look at my post history and the very first posts I ever made to see)

I do play as well, just not very often on iso since I cannot play from my mobile.

[Ozle]

Oh god! So it's my fault!

Those solo challenges brought a few newbies to be honest, I really should do some more. Trouble is they were a bit if a victim of their own success, I started them and then there were loads of other variants that tried to do too much.

[ashersky]

F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

I thought DS9 was opening up???

[jotheonah]

Sorry I was halfway through the flavor, computer died, lost everything, took FOREVER to reboot.

[Ozle]

Still no word from Voltgloss?

[Insomniac]

Still no word from Voltgloss?

Nope haven't gotten an email from him either

[Insomniac]

When checking the who's online board to see when I can expect a mafia update, I keep noting WinterSpartan going through all the old games. Don't know who this guy (or girl) is but fully expect him to ruin us and know our meta's when they finally play!

[Galzria]

When checking the who's online board to see when I can expect a mafia update, I keep noting WinterSpartan going through all the old games. Don't know who this guy (or girl) is but fully expect him to ruin us and know our meta's when they finally play!

I've seen that too!

[jotheonah]

creeeeepers

[Ozle]

When checking the who's online board to see when I can expect a mafia update, I keep noting WinterSpartan going through all the old games. Don't know who this guy (or girl) is but fully expect him to ruin us and know our meta's when they finally play!

I've seen that too!

This sounds like a job for INTERNET STALKER MAN!

Oh wait, thats me?
better come up with a catchier name

[Ozle]

Oh, that was dissapointinly easy....

[Ozle]

Pretty sure I can tell you his name, address, facebook profile, music likes, the fact he is a Libertarian as well and a load of other things.

Took 5 minutes, god I love the internet.

He seems like a nice chap

[Robz888]

Pretty sure I can tell you his name, address, facebook profile, music likes, the fact he is a Libertarian as well and a load of other things.

Took 5 minutes, god I love the internet.

He seems like a nice chap

I am not Winter Spartan, if that's what you're implying!

[Ozle]

Pretty sure I can tell you his name, address, facebook profile, music likes, the fact he is a Libertarian as well and a load of other things.

Took 5 minutes, god I love the internet.

He seems like a nice chap

I am not Winter Spartan, if that's what you're implying!

You are not from Detroit are you?

[Ozle]

And nope, pretty sure its not you!

I just brought that up because it was a word I had never heard used until i came to this forum, and now I know two of them!

[Ozle]

Also, just noticed his first post here saying hello nobody has replied too! Thats unlike us, must be those guys in the Innovation forum not as friendly!

I would go and say hello now, but that WOULD be creepy!

[Jorbles]

Go say hello and tell him everything you know about him!

[Robz888]

Pretty sure I can tell you his name, address, facebook profile, music likes, the fact he is a Libertarian as well and a load of other things.

Took 5 minutes, god I love the internet.

He seems like a nice chap

I am not Winter Spartan, if that's what you're implying!

You are not from Detroit are you?

I am!

[Ozle]

Holy crap, so you did!

Maybe he is stalking you?

Although he is still at Michigan University by the looks of it.

[Ozle]

Ohhh, Mafia, Michigan, Libertarian!

Maybe you have a SUPERFAN?!

[Ozle]

Also, tell your friend she should subtitle her book 'Dumb for Dummies' or 'A vote for Stupidity'

[Ozle]

Damn im bored tonight, going to go book a holiday see if that will entertain me, back later

[ashersky]

Okay, RMM7 will open for sign ups today, to start the first week of March.

[yuma]

When checking the who's online board to see when I can expect a mafia update, I keep noting WinterSpartan going through all the old games. Don't know who this guy (or girl) is but fully expect him to ruin us and know our meta's when they finally play!

I noticed WinderSpartan as well.

I have noticed quite a few... even sent out invitations to a handful of them that I saw viewing the mafia thread (jeb56, GendoIkari, ghostofmars for example) but stopped because no one took me up on my invitation!

[jotheonah]

I wish pops were still around so he could change the thread title like I just did.

[Jimmmmm]

I wish pops were still around so he could change the thread title like I just did.

Holy cow I never knew you could do that.

[WinterSpartan]

Wow, just noticed that my re-reading of the threads has been noticed (and that I apparently need to up my internet privacy, because I'm being stalked ) Not in university anymore. Yes, a Michigander; yes, conservative (I wouldn't go quite so far as to say libertarian). I'd love to get in on some forum games.

Probably should've actually done a "hello" post somewhere besides the Innovation forums, though. I suppose I'll let this count.

[jotheonah]

OZLE! What is the DEAL with MMMMMMMMMM?

[Ozle]

Surprise visit from the Auditors unfortunately meaning 12+hours in the office!

I'm never going to find a date for Valentines either at this rate! haha

[theory]

I already have a date for Valentine's Day.  February 14.

[Ozle]

I already have a date for Valentine's Day.  February 14.

If I didn't already have a grumpy 'I hate you all' 'how dareyou all be happy and stuff' Facebook status prepared...i'd have stolen that!

[WinterSpartan]

*Notes that his "hello" post here is getting precisely as much response as his "hello" post in the innovation subforum, Ozle's earlier comment & stalking notwithstanding

[Ozle]

*Notes that his "hello" post here is getting precisely as much response as his "hello" post in the innovation subforum, Ozle's earlier comment & stalking notwithstanding

Ohhh, hello!

Missed that post completely in my haste to moan about Auditors!

Welcome aboard!
Sign up to some mafia......oh you already have!

[ashersky]

*Notes that his "hello" post here is getting precisely as much response as his "hello" post in the innovation subforum, Ozle's earlier comment & stalking notwithstanding

Hurrah for new newbies!  And I'm glad you signed up for LotR.

[Insomniac]

Wow, just noticed that my re-reading of the threads has been noticed (and that I apparently need to up my internet privacy, because I'm being stalked ) Not in university anymore. Yes, a Michigander; yes, conservative (I wouldn't go quite so far as to say libertarian). I'd love to get in on some forum games.

Probably should've actually done a "hello" post somewhere besides the Innovation forums, though. I suppose I'll let this count.

Welcome aboard!

[Eevee]

Warm welcome!

[Morgrim7]

When checking the who's online board to see when I can expect a mafia update, I keep noting WinterSpartan going through all the old games. Don't know who this guy (or girl) is but fully expect him to ruin us and know our meta's when they finally play!

They'll know my meta? All the better! >

[WinterSpartan]

Thanks all for the welcome! (Upon reread, since tone of voice doesn't carry on the internet: I wasn't unhappy/angry a few posts ago, I was just amused, by Ozle in particular. In case that was in question.) I'd stumbled upon these as a good timesink when my code was compiling - and I do hope I have some idea of the meta. Suppose we'll see when RMM7 kicks off.

[ashersky]

Thanks all for the welcome! (Upon reread, since tone of voice doesn't carry on the internet: I wasn't unhappy/angry a few posts ago, I was just amused, by Ozle in particular. In case that was in question.) I'd stumbled upon these as a good timesink when my code was compiling - and I do hope I have some idea of the meta. Suppose we'll see when RMM7 kicks off.

If you haven't, read RMM6.  That'll give you a taste for what to expect out of people's metas in a Role Madness setting.  I mean, town lies everywhere!

[Eevee]

Yeah, the next time I get caught in a lie just remember that's town me!

[Insomniac]

Yeah, the next time I get caught in a lie just remember that's town me!

Oh hey Robz didn't see you there preparing for your next scum game.

[ashersky]

What's up with OzleMafia???

[Eevee]

What's up with OzleMafia???

as a surprise plot twist it turns out ozle is a lazy bum would be my guess.

[Ozle]

What's up with OzleMafia???

as a surprise plot twist it turns out ozle is a lazy bum would be my guess.

Thats a surprise?!

Seriously overloaded at work (12+ days due to being auditited), and a lot of flavour to write....

I could skip half the flavour I suppose....

[Axxle]

The Ozle who cried Auditing.

[Ozle]

The Ozle who cried Auditing.

Wont make any difference to you....your dead anyway

[Axxle]

The Ozle who cried Auditing.

Wont make any difference to you....your dead anyway

I feel like I've been hit by Hokuto no Ken.

[jotheonah]

Thanks all for the welcome! (Upon reread, since tone of voice doesn't carry on the internet: I wasn't unhappy/angry a few posts ago, I was just amused, by Ozle in particular. In case that was in question.) I'd stumbled upon these as a good timesink when my code was compiling - and I do hope I have some idea of the meta. Suppose we'll see when RMM7 kicks off.

I've totally lurked whole games at mafiascum without ever signing up, so no judgement.

Yeah, the next time I get caught in a lie just remember that's town me!

Oh hey Robz didn't see you there preparing for your next scum game.

+1

[Grujah]

Thanks all for the welcome! (Upon reread, since tone of voice doesn't carry on the internet: I wasn't unhappy/angry a few posts ago, I was just amused, by Ozle in particular. In case that was in question.) I'd stumbled upon these as a good timesink when my code was compiling - and I do hope I have some idea of the meta. Suppose we'll see when RMM7 kicks off.

Obligatory XKCD post:

[yuma]

What's up with OzleMafia???

as a surprise plot twist it turns out ozle is a lazy bum would be my guess.

Thats a surprise?!

Seriously overloaded at work (12+ days due to being auditited), and a lot of flavour to write....

I could skip half the flavour I suppose....

flavour can be added later! We want a flip! And the chance to keep playing of course... I am sure the coconut spirit tree misses us!

[Axxle]

What's up with OzleMafia???

as a surprise plot twist it turns out ozle is a lazy bum would be my guess.

Thats a surprise?!

Seriously overloaded at work (12+ days due to being auditited), and a lot of flavour to write....

I could skip half the flavour I suppose....

flavour can be added later! We want a flip! And the chance to keep playing of course... I am sure the coconut spirit tree misses us!

+0!

[WinterSpartan]

Thanks all for the welcome! (Upon reread, since tone of voice doesn't carry on the internet: I wasn't unhappy/angry a few posts ago, I was just amused, by Ozle in particular. In case that was in question.) I'd stumbled upon these as a good timesink when my code was compiling - and I do hope I have some idea of the meta. Suppose we'll see when RMM7 kicks off.

Obligatory XKCD post:

+1. It's so true.

[yuma]

so a 5-day night.... I hate to say this because I know that Ozle is busy in RL and that is the way that is... but I am really losing interest in playing that game the longer it stays in night... I am starting to forget what happened during the day and I am not really interested in going back and rereading through it. Not trying to be critical here, just saying how I feel.

[Axxle]

so a 5-day night.... I hate to say this because I know that Ozle is busy in RL and that is the way that is... but I am really losing interest in playing that game the longer it stays in night... I am starting to forget what happened during the day and I am not really interested in going back and rereading through it. Not trying to be critical here, just saying how I feel.

That game has 2.5 comods, can they help?

[eHalcyon]

so a 5-day night.... I hate to say this because I know that Ozle is busy in RL and that is the way that is... but I am really losing interest in playing that game the longer it stays in night... I am starting to forget what happened during the day and I am not really interested in going back and rereading through it. Not trying to be critical here, just saying how I feel.

That game has 2.5 comods, can they help?

I am not at all a co-mod.  I have no knowledge whatsoever of the setup.

[Archetype]

so a 5-day night.... I hate to say this because I know that Ozle is busy in RL and that is the way that is... but I am really losing interest in playing that game the longer it stays in night... I am starting to forget what happened during the day and I am not really interested in going back and rereading through it. Not trying to be critical here, just saying how I feel.

That game has 2.5 comods, can they help?

I am not at all a co-mod.  I have no knowledge whatsoever of the setup.

I have knowledge of the setup, but not what night actions have been done.

[Archetype]

And I'm  The Volcano Spirit

Prepare for an eruption, peasants.

[Dsell]

I am a co-mod and I could perhaps open things up, though there are one or two things I'd prefer seeing Ozle resolve, at least the first night. I couldn't do this before later on Friday, though, and he might be around by then. (Also, I am not positive that everyone sent my their night actions.) If it's not updated by then, I'll see what I can do, but no promises because four games came in the mail today and I still have to try 3 of them out.

[ashersky]

Come on Ozle!  Just DS9 is active now.  We need you to restart and BMX to start up!

[Dsell]

I am in a mafia game again! And it's in night/pregame. Weird/good feeling.

[Eevee]

Jimm is online! /F5F5F5

[ashersky]

Jimm is online! /F5F5F5

Called it.  That is all.

[yuma]

two games in night... (one with the second longest night ever since.... well that game's last night) the other is in a bit of a lull. Most boring mafia weekend ever...

[ashersky]

two games in night... (one with the second longest night ever since.... well that game's last night) the other is in a bit of a lull. Most boring mafia weekend ever...

You know BMX started, and we're already calling you invisiyuma for not posting once, right?

[ashersky]

two games in night... (one with the second longest night ever since.... well that game's last night) the other is in a bit of a lull. Most boring mafia weekend ever...

And speaking of longest night ever, didn't he post something about six hours yesterday?  I could fly to Tuvalu faster than this night is taking.

[shraeye]

two games in night... (one with the second longest night ever since.... well that game's last night) the other is in a bit of a lull. Most boring mafia weekend ever...

And speaking of longest night ever, didn't he post something about six hours yesterday?  I could fly to Tuvalu faster than this night is taking.

But you get a head start over us non-Oceania based players.

[Ozle]

Waiting for someone to reply to a PM.

[ashersky]

The Aussie Eagle has landed...F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5

[Lekkit]

Apparently it's going to be dark until february 30. Wonder when that is...

[Axxle2]

I'm lynched and I don't get access to the dead QT!

 

[Jimmmmm]

Apparently it's going to be dark until february 30. Wonder when that is...

I thought calling it January 61 might confuse people.

[raerae]

Apparently it's going to be dark until february 30. Wonder when that is...

I thought calling it January 61 might confuse people.

That's way more clear.  Seriously.  Take a poll next time.

[Ozle]

Why even bother with the January bit, just Day 61!

[Galzria]

Eevee, come play with us!

[raerae]

Here...eevee, eevee, eevee....

[Axxle]

*throws rock at Eevee*

... what? It makes him easier to catch!

[raerae]

HOw's he work with peer pressure?  I've facebooked him too.  I'm not above doing it again.

[Galzria]

What's his e-mail? I'll start spamming him 'till he comes.

[Morgrim7]

i pmed him

[Archetype]

Booking flight to Finland now...

[Eevee]

you are all welcome! i even promise to get back there myself to host!

[Archetype]

F5F5F5F5F5F5

[raerae]

The be kind of prize is a SURprise!!

[Galzria]

The be kind of prize is a SURprise!!

+1 for imagery.

[raerae]

The be kind of prize is a SURprise!!

+1 for imagery.

Have to admit that I totally stole this from the new Charlie & the Chocolate Factory with Johnny Depp.

[Galzria]

The be kind of prize is a SURprise!!

+1 for imagery.

Have to admit that I totally stole this from the new Charlie & the Chocolate Factory with Johnny Depp.

Oh, I know. I instantly heard his squeaky voice as Wonka. Love it.

[popsofctown]

I find it hilarious that this thread has become such a hangout.

[Galzria]

I find it hilarious that this thread has become such a hangout.

I just love the history that it holds for f.DS forum games. It's immensely entertaining to go back and read the beginnings of this thread to see where we were as a community.

[Morgrim7]

I find it hilarious that this thread has become such a hangout.

I just love the history that it holds for f.DS forum games. It's immensely entertaining to go back and read the beginnings of this thread to see where we were as a community.

heh, yeah.

[jotheonah]

whoa, hi pops.

[Archetype]

A replacement for BMX is greatly needed ASAP. The game isn't too much of a hassle, so PM me if you're interested.

[Ozle]

I think 2 Mafia's and a Resistance is my limit.

[Ozle]

Just asked if anyone wanted to play Mafia in the Innovation chat lobby...didnt go down well!

[shraeye]

doesn't sound very innovative to me...

[popsofctown]

It'd be kinda hard to play mafia in the innovation chatroom

[Ozle]

Yeah, what happened was...i got lynched

[sudgy]

doesn't sound very innovative to me...

+1

[Ozle]

ROBZ88888 SEND ME PM!

[sudgy]

ROBZ88888 SEND ME PM!

I've been thinking the same thing.  I only have 15 more minutes before having to do some more work (yay for lunch breaks!) and I want to know what I am...

[Ozle]

*wonders how may fake PMS he has sent to Robz in the past* uh oh....

[Lekkit]

Y NO PM YET?

[Robz888]

I'm still working out a few things!

[liopoil]

*also impatient*

[liopoil]

at least he's online. that's good

[yuma]

lullllllllllllllllllll.............

great for my studying and packing for an upcoming move, but not great for my AMWD (acute mafia withdrawals)

[sudgy]

@Robz:

[Archetype]

*wipes brow*

Well THAT was a lot of work...

[sudgy]

Man, both of my games are at night right now...

[eHalcyon]

Man, both of my games are at night right now...

Join BMIX.

[sudgy]

These two games are enough for me at the moment...

[sudgy]

Hey, the only game in day is NMIII...  And nobody's been posting there...

[mail-mi]

All three of my games are in night... And Im modding NMIII.

[Morgrim7]

i am not even playing currently

[ashersky]

That has to be an award for shortest day ever...

[sudgy]

I was stupid.

[mail-mi]

That has to be an award for shortest day ever...

What game?

[Archetype]

Woops.

[mail-mi]

Wait, he only had 4 votes?!?! How did he die?!?!?!?

[Ozle]

Please dont talk about on going games outside of the relevant thread

[ashersky]

Another D1 scum lynch on the record books!

[sudgy]

Why is barely anybody talking in all the mafia games?

[WinterSpartan]

I'm going to go insane if RMM7 doesn't wrap up soon. Preferably with the correct lynch.

[Robz888]

I'm going to go insane if RMM7 doesn't wrap up soon. Preferably with the correct lynch.

Hush! Save it for the qt.

[Archetype]

Why is barely anybody talking in all the mafia games?

Easter? Though it is a little early.

[yuma]

Played RL mafia for the first time in a long game. Point one... my wife is amazing at being mafia. 3/3! She rockes. Point two... I had a really, really good game. I knew I was about to be investigated by the cop who had claimed, and who should have been saved by the doc. But my partner and I decided to kill the cop anyways to prevent his investigation. Risky, but it paid off. I then was forced into fake claiming doc and forcing the doc to be mislynched for the win at mylo. I forgot how fun the game was RL!

Although being town wasn't very fun, mafia kept killing me because they knew I played online and were worried that I would find them out.

[Eevee]

Although being town wasn't very fun, mafia kept killing me because they knew I played online and were worried that I would find them out.

This is my biggest issue with IRL mafia (or any mafia where the skill level of players varies a ton). If you are town, you don't get to live. If you don't get nightkilled, they know you are mafia because you are still alive.

[ashersky]

I've never played IRL and don't even know how it would work.

[eHalcyon]

Played RL mafia for the first time in a long game. Point one... my wife is amazing at being mafia. 3/3! She rockes. Point two... I had a really, really good game. I knew I was about to be investigated by the cop who had claimed, and who should have been saved by the doc. But my partner and I decided to kill the cop anyways to prevent his investigation. Risky, but it paid off. I then was forced into fake claiming doc and forcing the doc to be mislynched for the win at mylo. I forgot how fun the game was RL!

Although being town wasn't very fun, mafia kept killing me because they knew I played online and were worried that I would find them out.

This is when the mafia has to leave you alive as town and then wifom that you must be alive because you are mafia.  And then when you are actually mafia, you wifom again and say that the mafia just want you to be mislynched!

[Robz888]

I've never played IRL and don't even know how it would work.

It requires a different sort of strategy. It's very, uh, frantic. Everyone gets mad at each other. Everyone kills me first because I yell the loudest.

[Morgrim7]

Could someone give me a good link to the rules of IRL mafia?

[liopoil]

How do you do the voting IRL?

[Axxle]

How do you do the voting IRL?

In my group we point with our whole hand/arm.

[liopoil]

Oh, and how do the mafia/masons talk at night and the PRs give their orders?

[sudgy]

They don't talk at night, and someone will say (while everyone is closing their eyes), "mafia wake up, choose who you want to kill" and they point to someone.  Same for the others.

[liopoil]

oh, well then I assume it is always an open setup... From what Yuma said it sounded like he talked with his scumbuddies.

[eHalcyon]

oh, well then I assume it is always an open setup... From what Yuma said it sounded like he talked with his scumbuddies.

No talking at night, unfortunately. And fewer choices other than "Who do you want to target" because it would be annoying to have to ask, say, a joat what he wants to do when he couldn't speak. Maybe if the group knew sign language.

The set up doesn't have to be fully open. Just have extra role cards that don't get handed out. You could probably do full hidden by having the moderator take each player aside, one by one. But that's too slow.

[sudgy]

Or have the cards say "you are a such-and-such, have this ability, etc."  Also, I one time had a role irl that could choose.  He held up one or two fingers then pointed at someone.

[eHalcyon]

Or have the cards say "you are a such-and-such, have this ability, etc."  Also, I one time had a role irl that could choose.  He held up one or two fingers then pointed at someone.

That's cool.

I just think it's harder for the Mod to track. I usually mod and it is very easy to forget that, hey, he was jailed! I've taken to using pen and paper.

The other thing is that it actually matters the order you do things in. At night, you pretty much have to call on jk first so you know if your can give results to the rest.

Oh, if your setup isn't full open, the Mod still has to call on missing roles. Not to mention he has to be careful about how he stands or he might give away the general location of a role based on where he directs his voice.

[yuma]

How do you do the voting IRL?

We do a preliminary vote where if enough people vote the person being voted is given a chance to respond and present a counter argument... after that we have a final vote. If that player doesn't receive enough votes, he can't be lynched the rest of that day.

I was able to get out of being lynched after having enough for a preliminary vote because of my convincing argument.

But I think that is more of a house rule than anything else, but we like it.

[Robz888]

Or have the cards say "you are a such-and-such, have this ability, etc."  Also, I one time had a role irl that could choose.  He held up one or two fingers then pointed at someone.

That's cool.

I just think it's harder for the Mod to track. I usually mod and it is very easy to forget that, hey, he was jailed! I've taken to using pen and paper.

The other thing is that it actually matters the order you do things in. At night, you pretty much have to call on jk first so you know if your can give results to the rest.

Oh, if your setup isn't full open, the Mod still has to call on missing roles. Not to mention he has to be careful about how he stands or he might give away the general location of a role based on where he directs his voice.

In our group, successful moderating is considered an art form. You have to pace around the whole group at night, deliberately pause for actions longer than necessary, impeccably remember orders, etc.

[sudgy]

Or have the cards say "you are a such-and-such, have this ability, etc."  Also, I one time had a role irl that could choose.  He held up one or two fingers then pointed at someone.

That's cool.

I just think it's harder for the Mod to track. I usually mod and it is very easy to forget that, hey, he was jailed! I've taken to using pen and paper.

The other thing is that it actually matters the order you do things in. At night, you pretty much have to call on jk first so you know if your can give results to the rest.

Oh, if your setup isn't full open, the Mod still has to call on missing roles. Not to mention he has to be careful about how he stands or he might give away the general location of a role based on where he directs his voice.

In our group, successful moderating is considered an art form. You have to pace around the whole group at night, deliberately pause for actions longer than necessary, impeccably remember orders, etc.

In my group, half the people want to moderate...

[Axxle]

oh, well then I assume it is always an open setup... From what Yuma said it sounded like he talked with his scumbuddies.

It could be semiopen and even closed if moderated correctly, and making nights a bit longer than needed.  Basically the mod asks for each possible team to wake up one after the other even if there might not be anyone in the team (mason, mafia, werewolves, etc).  Then he asks each person individually to wake up and do an action if they have one.  Its easier if the mod has a laptop or something.

[Eevee]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

[Cuzz]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

I'll play!

[Eevee]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

I'll play!

I'll create a game in 5 minutes!

[Ozle]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

All of it?

[Eevee]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

All of it?

Yeah. My first move is to fire everyone else and hire Dougz.

[Ozle]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

All of it?

Yeah. My first move is to fire everyone else and hire Dougz.

Dougz wont work for the man though!
And if you own Goko that makes you the man!

[sudgy]

I bought goko. Anyone want to play?

All of it?

Yeah. My first move is to fire everyone else and hire Dougz.

+1

[Eevee]

Galzria      8980
Robz888      6980
Insomniac      6600
Eevee      5757
Captain_Frisk      5705
jotheonah      5321
eHalcyon      5087
Ozle      4252
Axxle      3997
ashersky      3960



Adding forum games (for a day) did funny things to the top posters list of this forum. Oops guys, oops.

[yuma]

I was a little bummed that I didn't make the top 10. Need to post more and stop being so invisible I guess....

[Eevee]

I was a little bummed that I didn't make the top 10. Need to post more and stop being so invisible I guess....

Your posts tend to be on the longer side though, I'm sure you'd be up there if it was by character.

.. okay lets not pretend being up there is cool. I don't think I've ever had more than 2000 posts on a forum, let alone 5000.

[yuma]

O yes, I like me some long posts!

Probably because I rarely play on tablet or phone devices... where it is hard, despite what Galz may say, to make long posts from.

[Galzria]

O yes, I like me some long posts!

Probably because I rarely play on tablet or phone devices... where it is hard, despite what Galz may say, to make long posts from.

Lies. See?

Man. The compiling is exhausting. Alright, the much awaited for piece #4 of 6, the other suspicion leader, Robz:

Day 1 Posts:
#27, #32, #36, #77, #83, #86, #89, #91, #103, #104, #106, #107, #110, #112, #120, #126, #132, #142, #154, #155, #157, #160, #190, #193, #198, #209, #215, #217, #222, #225, #227, #231, #233

Posts of interest:
#83 - Suspects Jotheonah and Morgrim for No Lynch votes
#91 - Starts accusing M of bandwagon hopping
#106 - Finds bozz's vote on him odd, but not suspicious
#110 - Stays on M
#126 - Stays on M
#154 - Stays on M, agrees with Voltgloss, slightly suspects Galzria, suspects Tables
#190 - Will vote for M, would like to hear from Tables
#215 - Still suspects Tables, but not sure. Wants to place vote #4 on Morgrim to see who hammers, but will wait if requested
#217 - Votes Morgrim, but encourages others to retract if they aren't comfortable with M being at 4 votes.

Relevant Conclusions: Day 1 was pretty straight forward. He wasn't as guns blazing towards everybody as we thought he would be. Once he chose his target, he was relentless. Possible Mafia move to get a townie killed. Highly dangerous though putting himself so forward. Makes him look suspicious, which is not an ideal Mafia move. Hard to judge. More to go off of on day 1 than Insomniac though, for good or bad.

Day 2 Posts:
#254, #279, #282, #295, #302, #305, #307, #310, #319, #328, #329, #330, #370, #372, #384, #386, #392, #395, #400, #404, #431, #454, #456, #458, #460, #461, #508, #512, #520, #521, #522, #538

Posts of interest:
#254- Post-day 1 analysis. Suspects everyone to some degree except Kuildeous. States belief that there is 1 Mafia in bozzball/Insomniac set, and 1 in Galzria/Voltgloss/Jotheonah set. Believed G was most suspicious of 3 leaving day 1, but J's day 2 posts have raised flags
#295 - Reaffirms initial V-G suspicions, but still thinks J has been acting suspicious since day 2 started. He admits to provoking M in a few posts to try and get a response.
#302 - Claims he showed conviction (albeit wrongly) day 1, a town trait
#310 - Amidst growing clamor, admits he could be wrong about K's innocence
#319 - Restates how he perceived everyone's actions in regards to Morgrim
#328 - Takes issue with Insomniacs claims that he's unduly spreading suspicion everywhere
#330 - Claims Insomniacs statements regarding himself, Volt, and Galzria are all misleading our outright lies
#370 - Reevaluates K's actions to date. Now believes he could be Mafia
#384 - Reaffirms his growing suspicion of K. Notes he doesn't agree with G's reasons
#395 - Responds to Insomniacs comment about a second town role
#400 - Makes an interesting pairs list based on "friendliness". Notes that Insomniac hasn't really been anti-anyone, so could be anybodies partner
#431 - Admits to posting while drinking (**Obvious Mafia Tell! Lynch him! **)
#456 - Big long post defending himself and rebutting Insomniacs attacks. Way too long to sum up in two lines here. Go read it yourselves!
#458 - States he is confident of a I-K pairing, but thinks if he were wrong on 1, it would be K.
#461 - Reaffirms I-K most likely, but could be I-J or I-anybody
#508 - Lists suspicion levels: I and K, high. J and G, medium. V, low. Bozz, none. Defends J's "I'll vote at X time" statement from I, but claims he has his own reasons to suspect J
#512 - States he'll cast his vote in a few hours
#520 - Votes K, but makes clear he would rather be voting I.
#522 - Unvotes at request of Kuildeous for more time
#538 - Votes K

Relevant Conclusions: Well, ok. There was a LOT here. It's hard to argue that there wasn't an easy line of thought process to follow. I can see how he got from day 2 dawn to day 2 twilight. There is logic, there is reason, and... It just feels off to me. I said I would play this round by feel more than logic, and he feels scummy coming off day 2. With that said, moving forward.

Day 3 Posts:
#550, #551, #566, #568, #570, #571, #573, #574, #599, #607, #610

Posts of interest:
#550 - Reiterates belief that I is Mafia. Admits with K innocent, J and G are now hugely suspicious. J just edges G in terms of possible guilt
#551 - Roleclaims doctor
#566 - Explains his actions as Doctor, defends claim
#568 - Starts math war
#599 - Decides on I's partner. Makes case for I-J pairing.
#607 - Continues to build case against J
#610 - Admits he can fire hostility towards accusers, but believes in his case.

Relevant Conclusions: So here we are once more. Coming out of Day 2, I would've told you Robz was more scummy than Insomniac. While I'm not sure how I feel about the Doctor claim, I've gotten an overall worse vibe from Insomniac today. This brings the two about equal, though I am SLIGHTLY leaning towards Insomniac.

This brings me to another point, and I'm going to jump the gun for a moment and give you a peak into part 6, pairs:
 There are only 3 real possibilities to me. I-J, I-V, and R-V. I think of those, I-V is least likely. That means if I vote Robz, I essentially vote Voltgloss as well. If I vote Insomniac, I essentially vote Jotheonah. So which PAIR do I think more likely? Both V and J have played a friendly game towards me. But I find J's courtship for trust day 2 to be more damning. I DON'T trust it now. I was wary then, and have to be moreso now. V just let things happen naturally, and I get less of a Mafia read there. So unless something drastic happens, I will be voting insomniac at the conclusion of my 6 post write-up.

Man, what a game.

[Axxle]

What's my post 4000 going to be? Tune in to find out!

[Morgrim7]

What's my post 4000 going to be? Tune in to find out!

Youre almost there! Only 3261 to go!

[Eevee]

F5 like I've never F5'd before!

[Archetype]

F5 like I've never F5'd before!

[mail-mi]

F5 like I've never F5'd before!

Why jimmmmm why??

[Jimmmmm]

Sorry mail-mi, but I really think that was the right thing to do.

[Eevee]

Someone is trolling here.

Or keeping up the suspense.

I like it.

[mail-mi]

Argh hurry up ash!

[Eevee]

Oh it so was mail-mi. Well done Jimmm!

[Jimmmmm]

Maybe Eevee's trolling. Come on, spill!

[Eevee]

Maybe Eevee's trolling. Come on, spill!

No wait is it you? Couldn't be!

[liopoil]

Man, this isn't even night! this is the 5 minutes or whatever that it takes to write a flip!

[mail-mi]

It wasnt me.

Curse you Eevee.

[Jimmmmm]

mail-mi better not be lynch-proof or something, or we're all breaking the rules.

[Eevee]

Oh right, better stop this actually.

[mail-mi]

mail-mi better not be lynch-proof or something, or we're all breaking the rules.

Don't worry I'm not.

And yeah we probably should.

[mail-mi]

Oh come on ash!

[sudgy]

I wonder if he's doing this on purpose...

[Eevee]

Anyone want to go goko with me?

[yuma]

My cool wife bought me this shirt as a reward for finishing school. Now whenever I wear it I become yuma. I was a little hesitant to post a picture of myself, but I figured that I knew what enough of you looked like (robz, jotheonah) to feel comfortable with it.

[Robz888]

Nice! And I am in full support of less shyness. We've known each other long enough!

[Ozle]

I'm good with Sharing!


Here is me with the new Sunglasses I got for my birthday




(Beards gone now though, too itchy)

[Eevee]

Nice! And I am in full support of less shyness. We've known each other long enough!

Hear hear!

yuma, you should buddybuddy me on fb as well!

[Ozle]

Nice! And I am in full support of less shyness. We've known each other long enough!

Hear hear!

yuma, you should buddybuddy me on fb as well!

I wouldn't!!

I was a perfectly fine and productive member of this forum until I friended Eevee!

[eHalcyon]

My cool wife bought me this shirt as a reward for finishing school. Now whenever I wear it I become yuma. Ironically enough the first day I wore it we played mafia at my in-law's. I was a little hesitant to post a picture of myself, but I figured that I knew what enough of you looked like (robz, jotheonah) to feel comfortable with it.

For some reason I always picture you as Japanese.  The name "yuma" seems vaguely Japanese to me, I guess.

You look kind of like Charlie, from Lost.

[yuma]

Nice! And I am in full support of less shyness. We've known each other long enough!

Hear hear!

yuma, you should buddybuddy me on fb as well!

oh fb.... We had such good times together, until we didn't... and then we broke up. the only social network site I am on is Goodreads. If you happen to be on there we can be social media friends. If not we will just have to stay f.ds mafia buddies.

[yuma]

You look kind of like Charlie, from Lost.

That is a high compliment. I thank you.

[mail-mi]

Nice! And I am in full support of less shyness. We've known each other long enough!

Hear hear!

yuma, you should buddybuddy me on fb as well!

Buddying eevee. Town tell.

[Jimmmmm]

Is there an f.ds Facebook group?

[Axxle]

There is now! https://www.facebook.com/Forumdominionstrategy
(I'll give you admin privileges if you want it theory)
edit: not needed then.

[sudgy]

Is there an f.ds Facebook group?

While I wouldn't want to friend anybody on here on facebook (sorry) I would totally join this.

[ashersky]

the only social network site I am on is Goodreads. If you happen to be on there we can be social media friends. If not we will just have to stay f.ds mafia buddies.

I searched "yuma" on goodreads and got nothing.

[theory]

We do have www.facebook.com/councilroom

Though I don't know why it stopped updating, I should look into that.  Bleh.

[yuma]

the only social network site I am on is Goodreads. If you happen to be on there we can be social media friends. If not we will just have to stay f.ds mafia buddies.

I searched "yuma" on goodreads and got nothing.

yuma i only use for f.ds and dominion related stuff. This is me on Goodreads.

[ashersky]

the only social network site I am on is Goodreads. If you happen to be on there we can be social media friends. If not we will just have to stay f.ds mafia buddies.

I searched "yuma" on goodreads and got nothing.

yuma i only use for f.ds and dominion related stuff. This is me on Goodreads.

Added.

[yuma]

the only social network site I am on is Goodreads. If you happen to be on there we can be social media friends. If not we will just have to stay f.ds mafia buddies.

I searched "yuma" on goodreads and got nothing.

yuma i only use for f.ds and dominion related stuff. This is me on Goodreads.

It also has a picture of me sans-beard I should update that. I haven't been clean shaven in years.

[Cuzz]

I think I have almost the exact same hair- and beardstyle as you, yuma. One of us is gonna have to change before it gets all awkward.

[yuma]

I think I have almost the exact same hair- and beardstyle as you, yuma. One of us is gonna have to change before it gets all awkward.

1, 2, 3, not it!

[Dsell]

I think I have almost the exact same hair- and beardstyle as you, yuma. One of us is gonna have to change before it gets all awkward.

It's also the exact same as my roommate's...actually yuma just looks a lot like my roommate. It's weirding me out.

[Morgrim7]

Posting pics are we? I have like exactly one pic of myself on my computer lol.

[yuma]

I think I have almost the exact same hair- and beardstyle as you, yuma. One of us is gonna have to change before it gets all awkward.

It's also the exact same as my roommate's...actually yuma just looks a lot like my roommate. It's weirding me out.

weird.

[mail-mi]

I think I have almost the exact same hair- and beardstyle as you, yuma. One of us is gonna have to change before it gets all awkward.

It's also the exact same as my roommate's...actually yuma just looks a lot like my roommate. It's weirding me out.

weird.

Are you guys... roomates? (dun, dun, dun!!!)

[Robz888]

Posting pics are we? I have like exactly one pic of myself on my computer lol.

Post it! I want to see what Morgrim looks like.

[Morgrim7]

All right...I think its on some website...here we are...

[Jorbles]

I thought Morgrim looked like this guy?

[Morgrim7]

I thought Morgrim looked like this guy?

lol are you surprised? 

[Jimmmmm]

If I had the time and money I'd organise a massive f.ds meetup and give everyone a t-shirt of their avatar and make them wear it and we'd play board games and social deduction games and have general discussion all day long and we'd know who everyone else is just by looking at their t-shirt, and we'd all have a blast.

*goes off to buy a lottery ticket*

[yuma]

If I had the time and money I'd organise a massive f.ds meetup and give everyone a t-shirt of their avatar and make them wear it and we'd play board games and social deduction games and have general discussion all day long and we'd know who everyone else is just by looking at their t-shirt, and we'd all have a blast.

*goes off to buy a lottery ticket*

We tried that a few months ago in Helsinki. Everyone ended up dead except for ehunt. It was a blood bath really. It was a good idea, but once I died everything went to hell.

[Jimmmmm]

Did you have your yuma shirt?

[Jimmmmm]

Wait... you're talking about MXVI aren't you?

[sudgy]

If I had the time and money I'd organise a massive f.ds meetup and give everyone a t-shirt of their avatar and make them wear it and we'd play board games and social deduction games and have general discussion all day long and we'd know who everyone else is just by looking at their t-shirt, and we'd all have a blast.

*goes off to buy a lottery ticket*

Haha, actually, I would be fine having a dango shirt...

[Robz888]

All right...I think its on some website...here we are...

You're pretty ripped, Morg. Is that really you?

[Cuzz]

Are you wearing a kilt?

[Morgrim7]

All right...I think its on some website...here we are...

You're pretty ripped, Morg. Is that really you?

Yes.

Are you wearing a kilt?

Yes. You would be surprised at how uncomfortable some can be. Ugh.

[eHalcyon]

So Morgrim... are you a "romance, scifi, and fantasy book enthusiast"?

[Morgrim7]

So Morgrim... are you a "romance, scifi, and fantasy book enthusiast"?

fantasy. I hate romance. ughhh. Sci-fi....meh.

[Galzria]

Need a replacement for MXXIV. Please PM Ashersky or me if you can sub in.

[Axxle2]

I think I have almost the exact same hair- and beardstyle as you, yuma.

I know that feel bro, I look almost exactly like another user on site.  Luckily I'm much more handsome than that fellow.

[Axxle2]

If I had the time and money I'd organise a massive f.ds meetup and give everyone a t-shirt of their avatar and make them wear it and we'd play board games and social deduction games and have general discussion all day long and we'd know who everyone else is just by looking at their t-shirt, and we'd all have a blast.

*goes off to buy a lottery ticket*

Axxle's told me of meetup's he's gone to for another site and you really don't need anything of the sort, just people who want to come and space to accommodate people.  Find a weekend that works for everyone and voila!  He'd offer but he only has a studio apartment and not many games.

And I'm too lazy to get Axxle to sign into his account right now.

[liopoil]

F5 like I've never F5'd before!

[mail-mi]

Dang it.

[Galzria]

F5 like I've never F5'd before!

You're lucky, I gotta run! Headed to dinner.

[mcmcsalot]

All right...I think its on some website...here we are...

You're pretty ripped, Morg. Is that really you?

Yes.

Are you wearing a kilt?

Yes. You would be surprised at how uncomfortable some can be. Ugh.

I feel as though "pretty ripped" is an understatement...are you a model?(if you don't mind me asking)

[sudgy]

I AM IN NO GAMES RIGHT NOW

[ashersky]

I AM IN NO GAMES RIGHT NOW

There's only one game active, and it is in night.

I believe we're collectively waiting for the RMM games to get going before opening up many more.

[yuma]

I AM IN NO GAMES RIGHT NOW

There's only one game active, and it is in night.

I believe we're collectively waiting for the RMM games to get going before opening up many more.

well I would say that it would be appropriate to open up a normal game... I mean I want the RMM games to fill, but if there is a demand for regular and not RMM, regular shouldn't be held back to wait for RMM. They are kinda separate entities in my mind at least....

[ashersky]

I AM IN NO GAMES RIGHT NOW

There's only one game active, and it is in night.

I believe we're collectively waiting for the RMM games to get going before opening up many more.

well I would say that it would be appropriate to open up a normal game... I mean I want the RMM games to fill, but if there is a demand for regular and not RMM, regular shouldn't be held back to wait for RMM. They are kinda separate entities in my mind at least....

shraeye is next up there.

[Eevee]

Yeah, it's pretty clear people want to mod RMM but play normal, and obviously we should cater to the needs of the players rather than the needs of the mods.

[ashersky]

Yeah, it's pretty clear people want to mod RMM but play normal, and obviously we should cater to the needs of the players rather than the needs of the mods.

Probably correct.

I've put enough hours into set-up for both Shakespeare and LOTR2 that I'll try to get those filled and run, and then I'll probably just quit.

[Eevee]

This is really boring! I keep hitting F5 and then realizing there just is nothing..

[raerae]

This is really boring! I keep hitting F5 and then realizing there just is nothing..

AGREED!!  I'm stuck at my 2nd job for 2 more hours and there's nothing happening anywhere! 

[sudgy]

This is really boring! I keep hitting F5 and then realizing there just is nothing..

AGREED!!  I'm stuck at my 2nd job for 2 more hours and there's nothing happening anywhere!

Haha, that's happened to me too.

[shraeye]

I AM IN NO GAMES RIGHT NOW

There's only one game active, and it is in night.

I believe we're collectively waiting for the RMM games to get going before opening up many more.

well I would say that it would be appropriate to open up a normal game... I mean I want the RMM games to fill, but if there is a demand for regular and not RMM, regular shouldn't be held back to wait for RMM. They are kinda separate entities in my mind at least....

shraeye is next up there.

An intentional small break, i'm tyring players to sign up for RMM games.  Signujps for my (small) normal will open up soon.

[Axxle]

Normal game plox

[Twistedarcher]

9 players...guessing shraeyes game fills in under 24 hours.

[Eevee]

Guys, goko is steadily improving!

[spiritbears]

Guys, goko is steadily improving!

Eevee you are the most positive person I know.

[Eevee]

Guys, goko is steadily improving!

Eevee you are the most positive person I know.

!

[Galzria]

Okay that's L-1, so better stop voting until yuma gets here.

Yes I realize that, but I'm beginning to think Yuma has no intention of posting prior to the lynch

Oh yuma isn't the kind of guy to do something like that! People don't have access all the time! (Eevee of late would know..)

Oh and yuma just posted indeed, very interesting stuff. Both watcher and tracker sort of remind me of mcmc being a bulletproof town roleblocker in mafia noir.. Could be just to mess with us?

I got to say I'm unhappy we seem to be outing our power roles here left and right. I don't see yuma's claim as enough of a reason to believe mcmc, so to me it sort of feels like he just claimed for no reason. What's done is done obviously.

Ha. Bullet-Proof Town Roleblocker. Best. Role. Ever. And the flavor of it, having just met mcmc, was priceless.

[liopoil]

 

[mcmcsalot]

Recieve role pm..."Oh my this is insane! I am going to be an unstoppable town force"...Night One..."Alright the package thing is crazy, I only get two roleblocks so I'm going to save them till endgame when I can force a win!"...Day 2..."Guys, guys, what are you doing"...Claim..."See you guys would have been so mad if you lynched me. What? You, don't believe me. But, but, but"...Dead..."well, that was worse than being a vt, I stole someone else's spot for being a pr, hope that doesn't happen again."

[ashersky]

Lies! Lies, I tell you! 

[Dsell]

It has been "night" for me for a very, very long time! Good to be (almost) back!

[mail-mi]

It has been "night" for me for a very, very long time! Good to be (almost) back!

You like BM right? Join my game!

[Dsell]

It has been "night" for me for a very, very long time! Good to be (almost) back!

You like BM right? Join my game!

I will see how this next game treats me. I make no promise!

[Twistedarcher]

Man..so I joined this forum promising I would only join 2 or 3 games at a time, to help manage my time. But people keep making cool games, and I look up and I'm in 7-8 games! Darn boardgames for being so cool..

[Dsell]

Man..so I joined this forum promising I would only join 2 or 3 games at a time, to help manage my time. But people keep making cool games, and I look up and I'm in 7-8 games! Darn boardgames for being so cool..

And now Netrunner!

[Twistedarcher]

Man..so I joined this forum promising I would only join 2 or 3 games at a time, to help manage my time. But people keep making cool games, and I look up and I'm in 7-8 games! Darn boardgames for being so cool..

And now Netrunner!

Haha.

We were actually underwhelmed by our first play of netrunner (well, nkirbit more than myself.) We played two games, one each as runner and corporation, and I won both. He was frustrated that he drew 10 ice cards in a row, but that's part of the game, I guess!

We probably just need to play some more and get used to it.

You really like it?

[Dsell]

You really like it?

Yes! I'm obsessed. I haven't been able to play as much as I'd like recently, like 1 game in the last month. But I really enjoy the multitude of strategies available, building decks, the immersiveness of the game, and the awesome pace of spoilers. The pacing of LCGs exhausts some people, but for me it's like Guilds spoilers every few weeks.

Some of the starter decks tend to be imbalanced for some matchups...the suggested first game between Jinteki and Shaper favors Shaper pretty heavily if both players are on about the same level. And luck does play a part, drawing 10 ice in a row REALLY sucks, but there is really a LOT you can do to mitigate the luck factor, I'd put it at approximately the same level as Dominion myself. I'd encourage you to keep playing!

[nkirbit]

I did have a frustrating first experience, but I'll keep it up.  There aren't too many good two-player games that we can play in person.. Dominion is okay, but we only have base, seaside, and intrigue, and honestly, I'd almost rather play on Goko than in person, since he has all the cards there.

Do you keep up with every single pack?

[nkirbit]

A lot of people I know who play Magic like netrunner quite a lot, too.

[Dsell]

I did have a frustrating first experience, but I'll keep it up.  There aren't too many good two-player games that we can play in person.. Dominion is okay, but we only have base, seaside, and intrigue, and honestly, I'd almost rather play on Goko than in person, since he has all the cards there.

Do you keep up with every single pack?

Yes, although because of a miscommunication I don't have the most recent one. *sob* I need to check whether it's available anywhere online...doubtful. Even if I don't buy them, though, I love seeing the spoilers and thinking about the new strategies they open/enhance.

Edit: *gasp* it's available for a reasonable price on Amazon!

[Eevee]

I don't know if there is a thread for this in the main forums anymore so I'll just brag / share my joy with my friends here:

http://gyazo.com/a00114c3834dfd31a15b1bcd74bdae56 Yay, first time!

Kudos to Robz for telling me that playing people ranked less than 5k makes maintaining a high ranking much much harder.

[ashersky]

I don't know if there is a thread for this in the main forums anymore so I'll just brag / share my joy with my friends here:

http://gyazo.com/a00114c3834dfd31a15b1bcd74bdae56 Yay, first time!

Kudos to Robz for telling me that playing people ranked less than 5k makes maintaining a high ranking much much harder.

Congratulations!  Now that Guilds it out, I may actually break down and buy the cards...I find I can't get a game otherwise.

[Dsell]

I don't know if there is a thread for this in the main forums anymore so I'll just brag / share my joy with my friends here:

http://gyazo.com/a00114c3834dfd31a15b1bcd74bdae56 Yay, first time!

Kudos to Robz for telling me that playing people ranked less than 5k makes maintaining a high ranking much much harder.

Congratulations!  Now that Guilds it out, I may actually break down and buy the cards...I find I can't get a game otherwise.

Me too! I had been waiting for guilds to come out so that I can get a discount on a superbundle with everything. We'll see how that pans out...

[Robz888]

That's really great, Eevee!

By the way, here's what the top 10 looks like now (screenshot attacked).

[Eevee]

No it isn't!

But I think I know what it's going to look like. Want to play some, punk?

[Robz888]

No it isn't!

But I think I know what it's going to look like. Want to play some, punk?

I would really, really like to, but I already played too much today, and now I must get other things done, sadly.

[Galzria]

No it isn't!

But I think I know what it's going to look like. Want to play some, punk?

I would really, really like to, but I already played too much today, and now I must get other things done, sadly.

I'd take all y'all...

If I played on Goko.

[Twistedarcher]

Woah. What's with the avatars on the leaderboard? Is that something that comes with downloading the VP tracker package?

Congrats, Eevee!

[Eevee]

Eevee isn't in this game? No eevee? How didn't I notice this before... What to do without eevee? and why do I have a bunch of thoughts and reads subscribed to eevee for this game? I could have sworn he had a town read on voltaire...

I know right! I was so sure I had signed up..

[nkirbit]

Poor SB.  Finally scum, and the game has to restart!

[spiritbears]

Poor SB.  Finally scum, and the game has to restart!

I can't tell you how dissapointed
I am.
Have to wait another 20 games probably

[mail-mi]

Poor SB.  Finally scum, and the game has to restart!

I can't tell you how dissapointed
I am.
Have to wait another 20 games probably

You'll be the next morgrim!

By the way, you should be a poet. All free form like and stuff.

[mcmcsalot]

Poor SB.  Finally scum, and the game has to restart!

I can't tell you how dissapointed
I am.
Have to wait another 20 games probably

Seee, I told you I was bad for town, though in my attempts to protect the two of you as my top town reads and all, I may have actually blocked your nightkill and caught you. Oh yea, I was a Jailkeeper again, that was going to be fun to claim...

[mcmcsalot]

I think we are at the point where it is mafia's game to win or lose. I mean I think any recent town wins have been due to some big misplays by scum. Though I am not sure this is a new thing. I mean the only game I have lost as scum in the past 7 months was one very recently where I made a huge misplay(wasn't around) I don't think I am actually that amazing of a scum player, I do think it is and always has been advantaged toward scum. Alot of it has to do with participation I think, I remember I used to be soo nervous about falling behind because if I started lurking I would get lynched, now town lurks often enough it is no longer a valid reason to lynch. Which isn't a bad thing, people just don't have the time(including myself) but I think that was a major way to catch scum, they had to post and post alot because at the end of the day(literally) the lurkers were getting offed days one and two with enough post down from scum that wagons could be analyzed and they could be caught in days three, four, and five. Lastly, Power roles do need to come back to favoring town, and I mean just giving town power roles that help. Watcher and Tracker have such a super small chance of even doing anything in a game, and if you happen to see someone who isn't scum it can hurt you. IC in reality gives scum just as much as town a voice to follow and doesn't amount to much of anything, Robz use in the last game was amazing with it and still it equated to nothing but robz being forced to call a few lynches(this is worse than town trying to work toward a lynch together because it eliminates scum having to throw their voice in) We need more cops, cop catches scum or creates an IC each night he is alive and hits his target, on day 3 a reveal should create 3 IC's(depending on who is living) that would just about end the game, but hey all 3 people managed to live and cop was never blocked(oh yea roleblockers for scum should be back too, as well as a rolecop) then I think town deserves to have that advantage. I would say cop and JK work great as they can hurt eachother but they can work real well against a roleblocker/rolecop. Or give town a doc/JK/Rolecop and give scum a roleblocker. That way town has some huge saving potential and has a cop sortof, though getting back a vannilla result wouldn't give the rolecop any clue of alignment so it makes it a tad harder to create IC's and catch mafia. This way there are some huge PR's going on which influence the game and some vannilla's watching and trying to guess who is on their side fighting for them, who has knowledge of their alignment, and whose claim do they trust based on what makes sense for that player to do(see the last mean girls game, in retrospect doesn't my claim seem obviously right in the grand scheme of things vs ash's opportunistic play/bussdriver and yuma's radomly changing watcher role that watched the silly targets)

[spiritbears]

Interesting take mc.  I do think you may be right about the need for a cop.
In the end of mean girls, really it came down to me misreading Yuma and eevee.
Funny, my worst reads ever....
Have all been Yuma...(and robz to a lesser degree).
It would have been nice to have a hall moniter/cop
But really I mostly need to learn to read
Better

[Eevee]

Y'all just ought to listen to me more and town will start winning again. I've been on a roll in my recent town games!

[liopoil]

He has. and if you had listened to me in mean girls...

But really, don't sheep anyone, go read everything for yourself!

cop is definitely the best simple role for town. a JK, doc, watcher, tracker, etc. can often go to their grave without having provided any usefulness to town. A cop will usually provide a benefit of some sort, as long as they are not NKed N1.

[spiritbears]

Y'all just ought to listen to me more and town will start winning again. I've been on a roll in my recent town games!

Bad bad bad
Pokemon
I can't trust and eevee anymore!!!

[Jimmmmm]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

[Eevee]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

I totally agree, but think town should take this into consideration more.

[eHalcyon]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

[spiritbears]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

I totally agree, but think town should take this into consideration more.

I've been grumbled at
When I bring this up in game
The possibility

[spiritbears]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

Then you need to auto in as town only.

[Jimmmmm]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

I don't recall ever playing with you. Them's strong words. Would like to see these scumhunting skills in action.

[eHalcyon]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

I don't recall ever playing with you. Them's strong words. Would like to see these scumhunting skills in action.

Maybe I'm just commenting on how bad I am as scum.

But you could check out Robz' first big game (uhh... MXI?) for where Galz and I smacked the scum around as VTs and had to be eliminated early.

[Galzria]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

Yeah....

You and I both know how THAT ends up.....

"He's trying way too hard! Obvscum! Lyyyyynch hiiiiiiim!"

[Galzria]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

Yeah....

You and I both know how THAT ends up.....

"He's trying way too hard! Obvscum! Lyyyyynch hiiiiiiim!"

And while that itself is a joke, it's only funny because it's true that there's a real problem in that the collective town in any given game almost always seems to actively go out and punish good town play. People get so afraid of anybody stepping up their game that it makes for Towns that cannot play well without lynching themselves.

That is, mcmc believes we're at the point where games are in the hands of scum to win or lose, and I agree, only because our Towns refuse to let themselves go out and win.

[spiritbears]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

Yeah....

You and I both know how THAT ends up.....

"He's trying way too hard! Obvscum! Lyyyyynch hiiiiiiim!"

And while that itself is a joke, it's only funny because it's true that there's a real problem in that the collective town in any given game almost always seems to actively go out and punish good town play. People get so afraid of anybody stepping up their game that it makes for Towns that cannot play well without lynching themselves.

That is, mcmc believes we're at the point where games are in the hands of scum to win or lose, and I agree, only because our Towns refuse to let themselves go out and win.

That wasn't the case st all in mean girls. We mislyched the disinterested and lurkers. And almost lynched our IC bbecause he wss purposefully playing scummy. In the end, yuma and eevee had so sold me on their town play I couldn't see them as scum
Although in hindsigh
The cluesnwere there

[Twistedarcher]

Galz + eHalc, you guys should sign up for some more games and show us your scumhunting skills!

[spiritbears]

Galz + eHalc, you guys should sign up for some more games and show us your scumhunting skills!

This

[Twistedarcher]

I tend to think the problem is that people just don't tend to enjoy playing or put in as much effort as Town as they do as scum, and lazy Townies make for easy mislynches. Scum make more of an effort not to do things that we all know will be seen as scummy.

In other words, town be losing cause I'm not playing.

Yeah....

You and I both know how THAT ends up.....

"He's trying way too hard! Obvscum! Lyyyyynch hiiiiiiim!"

Heh, I feel like this is kind of what happened to me D2 of Pirates. I had the correct lynch, and I KNEW mail-mi was scum, but instead I was the one who ended up getting lynched.

[Axxle]

Galz + eHalc, you guys should sign up for some more games and show us your scumhunting skills!

Correct Lynch % (with at least 10 lynches) Axxle (82%)

(to be fair a lot of it is because I'm voting town but just not on the lynch of the day)

[eHalcyon]

Galz + eHalc, you guys should sign up for some more games and show us your scumhunting skills!

I think it's not so much skill as it is willingness to go back and build real cases, as well as the stubbornness to argue those cases and not roll over and concede.  When I put together big cases, I was accused of tunneling and such, but I wouldn't give in unless they put together a real case of their own.

That's also why I haven't been signing up for games.  I don't have the time to put in that effort, and I would rather sit out than be in a game half-heartedly.

[ashersky]

Galz + eHalc, you guys should sign up for some more games and show us your scumhunting skills!

I think it's not so much skill as it is willingness to go back and build real cases, as well as the stubbornness to argue those cases and not roll over and concede.  When I put together big cases, I was accused of tunneling and such, but I wouldn't give in unless they put together a real case of their own.

That's also why I haven't been signing up for games.  I don't have the time to put in that effort, and I would rather sit out than be in a game half-heartedly.

I think this is a contributing factor.

If someone is town in three games and scum in one, they're focused on not getting caught, no matter which game they are in.

[Robz888]

Okay, BUT, if the game takes overwhelmingly more effort for town to win, then the balance is off.

The counterpoint to this is... for awhile the complaint was the opposite, because we were playing so much multiball, where scum has a much harder time. In DS9, I worked harder for my scum victory than all my other games put together.

[ashersky]

Town's biggest advantage has always been numbers.  Scum's biggest advantage is information.  PRs add more info to town's hands, usually.

I advocate for large-scale claiming in almost every game as town for this reason.  It nueters scum and levels the playing field.  It also forces scum to lie.

No one follows me, though.

[liopoil]

I agree that massclaims are essential in many setups, particularly closed ones.

[Archetype]

Town's biggest advantage has always been numbers.  Scum's biggest advantage is information.  PRs add more info to town's hands, usually.

I advocate for large-scale claiming in almost every game as town for this reason.  It nueters scum and levels the playing field.  It also forces scum to lie.

No one follows me, though.

I'm actually a big fan of mass claiming, especially in RMM games. Usually the Town's powers are greater than scum's once you know what's out there and you almost always catch at least one scum in a lie.

[Galzria]

Okay, BUT, if the game takes overwhelmingly more effort for town to win, then the balance is off.

The counterpoint to this is... for awhile the complaint was the opposite, because we were playing so much multiball, where scum has a much harder time. In DS9, I worked harder for my scum victory than all my other games put together.

My argument isn't that town needs to "work harder than scum" though, it's that "When a town member puts in any modicum of work, they often get crucified by other townies for "trying too hard, therefore must be scum leading town astray"". Even in M-XXI, where eHal and I really did put in our share of the work to win, there were many people who wanted our heads with accusations of "who made you leader and why should we listen to you?" - And certainly, town NEEDS to question everything they read... But in many, many games that effort and those statements lead to a lynch of the person who is "trying too hard". This was evident in a handful of games following XXI, when eHal and I both got pounded on for actually doing some work

And sure, scum fan the flames of distrust, but they are rarely the driving voices, because if someone is playing a strong town game, but gets lynched anyway, scum doesn't want to be seen as the reason.

My point anyway, isn't that town doesn't need to do more work, it's that "town" needs to do a better job of not penalizing it's own members who do bother to try. (This is especially annoying when it's the lurker town making accusations at the playing town). Scum can still outplay town, sure, but it forces them to play a stronger game.

[Jimmmmm]

Town's biggest advantage has always been numbers.  Scum's biggest advantage is information.  PRs add more info to town's hands, usually.

I advocate for large-scale claiming in almost every game as town for this reason.  It nueters scum and levels the playing field.  It also forces scum to lie.

No one follows me, though.

I'm actually a big fan of mass claiming, especially in RMM games. Usually the Town's powers are greater than scum's once you know what's out there and you almost always catch at least one scum in a lie.

Also, it needs to either happen or not. Around half the Town claimed in LoTR, giving the Dragons near-perfect information on Day 3 or something.

[Galzria]

Town's biggest advantage has always been numbers.  Scum's biggest advantage is information.  PRs add more info to town's hands, usually.

I advocate for large-scale claiming in almost every game as town for this reason.  It nueters scum and levels the playing field.  It also forces scum to lie.

No one follows me, though.

I'll admit to being one who subscribes to a different philosophy on the subject. Scum has an advantage of information, but it's limited. Town has an advantage in size. By massclaiming, you are only upping scum's knowledge, giving them a complete picture of the game state. Meanwhile, while you may or may not force them to lie (depending on setup), even if they do, town learns nothing about who to trust, thus what they gain is minimal.

Had everybody claimed D1 in Noir, what do you think would've happened to the bullet-proof town Roleblocker, arguably the strongest role town had? Probably exactly what happened D3 anyway, but still...

[Archetype]

Town's biggest advantage has always been numbers.  Scum's biggest advantage is information.  PRs add more info to town's hands, usually.

I advocate for large-scale claiming in almost every game as town for this reason.  It nueters scum and levels the playing field.  It also forces scum to lie.

No one follows me, though.

I'm actually a big fan of mass claiming, especially in RMM games. Usually the Town's powers are greater than scum's once you know what's out there and you almost always catch at least one scum in a lie.

Also, it needs to either happen or not. Around half the Town claimed in LoTR, giving the Dragons near-perfect information on Day 3 or something.

Yeah, it's usually an all or nothing deal. I remember I claimed super early because I figured there would be some sort of protection for me, and I didn't want to be lynched later for supposedly fake claiming it as scum. Turns out it sort it sorta worked, but you had gain too much tow credit that people would have believed your claim regardless of what you said. Oh well.I still feel like that game had too many scum.

A good example of how mass claiming helps nail scum is Major Arcana 2.

[Galzria]

MA 2 is hardly a fair example. That was so unbalanced it was ridiculous.

[Archetype]

MA 2 is hardly a fair example. That was so unbalanced it was ridiculous.

It was heavily skewed towards scum, but we managed to eliminate enough of them to not lose by THAT much.

[yuma]

Lastly, Power roles do need to come back to favoring town, and I mean just giving town power roles that help. Watcher and Tracker have such a super small chance of even doing anything in a game, and if you happen to see someone who isn't scum it can hurt you. IC in reality gives scum just as much as town a voice to follow and doesn't amount to much of anything, Robz use in the last game was amazing with it and still it equated to nothing but robz being forced to call a few lynches(this is worse than town trying to work toward a lynch together because it eliminates scum having to throw their voice in) We need more cops, cop catches scum or creates an IC each night he is alive and hits his target, on day 3 a reveal should create 3 IC's(depending on who is living) that would just about end the game, but hey all 3 people managed to live and cop was never blocked(oh yea roleblockers for scum should be back too, as well as a rolecop) then I think town deserves to have that advantage. I would say cop and JK work great as they can hurt eachother but they can work real well against a roleblocker/rolecop. Or give town a doc/JK/Rolecop and give scum a roleblocker. That way town has some huge saving potential and has a cop sortof, though getting back a vannilla result wouldn't give the rolecop any clue of alignment so it makes it a tad harder to create IC's and catch mafia. This way there are some huge PR's going on which influence the game and some vannilla's watching and trying to guess who is on their side fighting for them, who has knowledge of their alignment, and whose claim do they trust based on what makes sense for that player to do(see the last mean girls game, in retrospect doesn't my claim seem obviously right in the grand scheme of things vs ash's opportunistic play/bussdriver and yuma's radomly changing watcher role that watched the silly targets)

I disagree about the cop aspect. I think cops are by far the absolute worst role to have in a mafia game... and by worst I don't mean that they are weak, but rather that they are absolutely no fun to play with. Why? Because cops take the least amount of skill required to use them. Like you say cops are guaranteed a result: town or not town. That is huge, but more importantly it can completely eliminate a scum team just like that, boom, game over. Good game it was fun, but not that fun. Sure playing cop takes some skill, but not very much.

Whereas other roles--yes watcher is pretty weak--require much more skill in analyzing wifom, interactions, etc... And I think you give tracker a bad rap. It is actually a really good role. Because like cop you are guarnateed information: targeted someone, didn't target someone, but isn't as crushing as a cop investigation... it is especially more useful when mafia teams have other roles (rolecops, etc).

I am actually very intrigued by the roles of non-cop investigators... hence my game that I am hosting (Clue Mafia) having two investigative roles (detective, psychologist) that are powerful, but not as overwhelming as cops.

I think other powerful roles include Masons--I think every game we have played with masons, town has won yes?--JK (in my opinion the best and most powerful role in the game) and Commuter and I would like to see all three in more games to an extent, especially if the choice is one of the three and cop.

[yuma]

Okay, BUT, if the game takes overwhelmingly more effort for town to win, then the balance is off.

The counterpoint to this is... for awhile the complaint was the opposite, because we were playing so much multiball, where scum has a much harder time. In DS9, I worked harder for my scum victory than all my other games put together.

I think I work equally hard in both sides of the game... But mafia is always harder. Always. See the most recent QT in Mean Girls... and I was doing that all game long, not just during the nights. Which isn't to say I don't do that as town either, but as town I put more energy into scum hunting. As mafia you have to worry about theory a lot more, interactions with other players, how other players view yourself, what roles are out there, who to NK, who to push for a lynch, and on and on and on. As town, you just find scum. Same energy and same time, but scum is harder. At least for me.

[Robz888]

Okay, BUT, if the game takes overwhelmingly more effort for town to win, then the balance is off.

The counterpoint to this is... for awhile the complaint was the opposite, because we were playing so much multiball, where scum has a much harder time. In DS9, I worked harder for my scum victory than all my other games put together.

I think I work equally hard in both sides of the game... But mafia is always harder. Always. See the most recent QT in Mean Girls... and I was doing that all game long, not just during the nights. Which isn't to say I don't do that as town either, but as town I put more energy into scum hunting. As mafia you have to worry about theory a lot more, interactions with other players, how other players view yourself, what roles are out there, who to NK, who to push for a lynch, and on and on and on. As town, you just find scum. Same energy and same time, but scum is harder. At least for me.

Well, I don't agree, but maybe it's just a personal thing. I have a lot of games where I have worked VERY hard as town (Mafia IV, Mafia XII, Mafia XVI, Mafia XXIV) and lost.

[Robz888]

I put a lot of work into my scum games, too. But it usually results in me winning. I put 10X the effort into Day 3 of Mafia XXIV, and still ended up so, so wrong. Really that game scarred me.

[eHalcyon]

How do you guys even remember all the numbers?  I've been in like 3 games and I don't remember which ones they are.  MIII, I think.  Umm.... VI?  And then XI?  Robz has been in like every game, I don't know how he keeps them all straight.

[yuma]

How do you guys even remember all the numbers?  I've been in like 3 games and I don't remember which ones they are.  MIII, I think.  Umm.... VI?  And then XI?  Robz has been in like every game, I don't know how he keeps them all straight.

my stat keeping certainly helps keeps things straight... speaking of which, haven't updated in a while... maybe I'll do that now during this mini-lull...

[Robz888]

How do you guys even remember all the numbers?  I've been in like 3 games and I don't remember which ones they are.  MIII, I think.  Umm.... VI?  And then XI?  Robz has been in like every game, I don't know how he keeps them all straight.

I have a weirdly good memory for things like this. I can keep all the games straight up to XIX, and then I start getting confused. Well, actually, I know what XXII up to the present are. So I guess the only games I cant keep straight are XX and XXI. That was... that newbie-ish one, where mcmc and lio were scum... and then the double scum teams one that Jimm hosted. Okay, I guess I can remember them all 

[sudgy]

How do you guys even remember all the numbers?  I've been in like 3 games and I don't remember which ones they are.  MIII, I think.  Umm.... VI?  And then XI?  Robz has been in like every game, I don't know how he keeps them all straight.

I have a weirdly good memory for things like this. I can keep all the games straight up to XIX, and then I start getting confused. Well, actually, I know what XXII up to the present are. So I guess the only games I cant keep straight are XX and XXI. That was... that newbie-ish one, where mcmc and lio were scum... and then the double scum teams one that Jimm hosted. Okay, I guess I can remember them all 

Heh, I remember them starting from around there...  But that makes sense, as that's when I came.

[nkirbit]

I couldn't even tell you the numbers of the games I'm in now.  Just don't look at them at all, I go entirely by the flavor name.

[Archetype]

I couldn't even tell you the numbers of the games I'm in now.  Just don't look at them at all, I go entirely by the flavor name.

Same.

[ashersky]

Whereas other roles--yes watcher is pretty weak--require much more skill in analyzing wifom, interactions, etc... And I think you give tracker a bad rap. It is actually a really good role. Because like cop you are guarnateed information: targeted someone, didn't target someone, but isn't as crushing as a cop investigation... it is especially more useful when mafia teams have other roles (rolecops, etc).

Agree with this statement especially.  I was a Tracker in Mean Girls and caught scum twice!

[mail-mi]

Whereas other roles--yes watcher is pretty weak--require much more skill in analyzing wifom, interactions, etc... And I think you give tracker a bad rap. It is actually a really good role. Because like cop you are guarnateed information: targeted someone, didn't target someone, but isn't as crushing as a cop investigation... it is especially more useful when mafia teams have other roles (rolecops, etc).

Agree with this statement especially.  I was a Tracker in Mean Girls and caught scum twice!

grumble grumble.

[Robz888]

Okay, watch me go... I promise I'm not looking!

I. Normal setup. Mafia: Axxle/Ozle. Cop: TINAS. JK: Robz. Town win.
II. Normal setup. Mafia: Galz/Robz. Cop: Tables. Scum win.
III. Insomniac's closed setup. Mafia: Yuma/Voltgloss/Eevee. SK: Joth. Town win.
IV. Voltgloss JK+/C9 or whatever setup. Mafia: O/Dsell/Glooble. SK: Frisk. Scum win.
V. Joth's crazy doctors game. Mafia: O and someone. Town win miraculously.
VI. O's giant closed game. Mafia: Frisk/eHal/Ozle and Robz/theorel. SK: Glooble. Town win.
VII. Normal game with some newbs. Mafia: Young Nick/PPS. JK: Robz. Scum win.
VIII. Grujah's PYP seaside-themed game. Mafia: Robz/O/Frisk. Vig: ehunt. Tracker: Cayvie. IC: Eevee. Scum win.
IX. Cayvie's Major Arcana. Mafia: Robz/Insomniac/sparky and Someone/Someone/???. SK: Voltgloss. SK win.
X. Normal newbie game. Mafia: Frisk, or Frisk was the cop, there was some lying, I don't remember. Town win.
XI. Robz' giant game. Mafia: Grujah/ftl/watno/others who were replaced. Town win.
XII. Voltgloss' Hinterlands JK+ game. Mafia: Insomniac/Grujah/sparky. Tracker: Robz. Vig: ash. Hider: Eevee or cavie. JK: Frisk.
XIII. Weird double head game. No idea. Scum win.
XIV. Chicken mafia. Mafia: Cuzz/ashersky/???. Scum win.
XV. Insomniac hosted. Mafia: Qvist/Others. SK: Galz. Town win.
XVI: Casino Helsink. Mafia: ehunt/Cuzz/...Munch? Scum win.
XVII: Raerae is IC game. Mafia: cayvie/lekkit/someone else. Town win.
XVIII: Major Arcana II. Scum: Practically everyone. Insanity. Scum win.
XIX. DS9. Scum: Robz/Galz/mcmc and Munch/yuma/Glooble. Robz Scum win.
XX. Newbie I think. Mafia: lio/mcmc. Scum win.
XXI. Jimm's multi ball. Mafia: Robz/Morg and /???. Non-Robz Scum win.
XXII. Bankers! Mafia: raerae/Jorbles/Kooshie/sparky. Scum win.
XXIII. JK+. Mafia: Robz/WinterSpartan/mail-mi. Town wins spectacularly.
XXIV. Robz loses faith in self game. Mafia: Galz/mcmc/mail-mi. Scum win.
XXV. Robz loses more faith, is IC game. Mafia: yuma/Eevee/ash. Scum win.
XXVI. Ongoing.

[Twistedarcher]

Dang.

[liopoil]

25 completed normal games. The first was a bit over a year ago, yes? Feels like we would finish more, but I guess that is 1 every 2 weeks or so...

wow. Town has won precisely 1 normal game in the time I've been playing here. Before that it seems to have been mostly even though.

[Galzria]

Wow, you're on a losing streak Robz. Man, I know how you feel about losing faith. Somewhere back between IV & XI, I think I lost 8 or 9 (RMM included) in a row. Felt like no matter what I did I was bound to lose.

[Robz888]

Wow, you're on a losing streak Robz. Man, I know how you feel about losing faith. Somewhere back between IV & XI, I think I lost 8 or 9 (RMM included) in a row. Felt like no matter what I did I was bound to lose.

It's not even SO much the losing streak aspect. I was fine with losing XX and XXIII, other people played better. But man, I REALLY tried in XXIV and XXV.

With the exception of the epic sum fail that was my losing team in Mafia XXIII, scum just win every game now, though.

[sudgy]

Wow, you're on a losing streak Robz. Man, I know how you feel about losing faith. Somewhere back between IV & XI, I think I lost 8 or 9 (RMM included) in a row. Felt like no matter what I did I was bound to lose.

It's not even SO much the losing streak aspect. I was fine with losing XX and XXIII, other people played better. But man, I REALLY tried in XXIV and XXV.

With the exception of the epic sum fail that was my losing team in Mafia XXIII, scum just win every game now, though.

I think you're getting MXXIII and MXXIV confused.

[Robz888]

Oh, I might be.

[sudgy]

HAHA!  I know the games better than Robz!  (from MXIX)

Wait, you got MXX and MXXI mixed up too.

[Twistedarcher]

Wow, you're on a losing streak Robz. Man, I know how you feel about losing faith. Somewhere back between IV & XI, I think I lost 8 or 9 (RMM included) in a row. Felt like no matter what I did I was bound to lose.

It's not even SO much the losing streak aspect. I was fine with losing XX and XXIII, other people played better. But man, I REALLY tried in XXIV and XXV.

With the exception of the epic sum fail that was my losing team in Mafia XXIII, scum just win every game now, though.

I think you're getting MXXIII and MXXIV confused.

Well, the fact that XXIV was started and completed before XXIII even began is kind of confusing!

[Jimmmmm]

XVII: Raerae is IC game. Mafia: cayvie/lekkit/someone else. Town win.

Captain Frisk I believe. That was my first non-blitz game and I had no idea what I was doing but apparently I was obvTown. Proud of myself for picking cayvie as scum.

XVIII: Major Arcana II. Scum: Practically everyone. Insanity. Scum win.

I was Mafia with sparky and Voltgloss I think. They both lurked. I was feeling pretty good about how I was doing until I was nightkilled. Werewolves had the game from the start.

XIX. DS9. Scum: Robz/Galz/mcmc and Munch/yuma/Glooble. Robz Scum win.

Good game. Should have known you were both scum.

XX. Newbie I think. Mafia: lio/mcmc. Scum win.

Finally got to be a cop. Killed Night 1 of course.

XXI. Jimm's multi ball. Mafia: Robz/Morg and /???. Non-Robz Scum win.

yuma/EFHW. Disappointed that the Robz/Morg team didn't come to much.

XXII. Bankers! Mafia: raerae/Jorbles/Kooshie/sparky. Scum win.

Good game, except for the fact that Town had it solved but couldn't win by lynching scum. Grr.

I would have absolutely no idea which numbers went with which game. Maybe if we weren't using Roman Numerals I'd be okay, but it's normally too much effort to translate what that bunch of Xs, Vs and Is actually means.

[sudgy]

XXII. Bankers! Mafia: raerae/Jorbles/Kooshie/sparky. Scum win.

Good game, except for the fact that Town had it solved but couldn't win by lynching scum. Grr.

If we had lynched Jorbles first, then raerae, we would have won.

[Archetype]

XXII. Bankers! Mafia: raerae/Jorbles/Kooshie/sparky. Scum win.

Good game, except for the fact that Town had it solved but couldn't win by lynching scum. Grr.

If we had lynched Jorbles first, then raerae, we would have won.

Our team had that game in the bag.

[Eevee]

I want to play mafia.

[Galzria]

I want to play mafia.

Nice try. But you can't fool me into thinking you're town that easily.

[Eevee]

I want to play mafia.

Nice try. But you can't fool me into thinking you're town that easily.

Silly old Galzria!

[Galzria]

I want to play mafia.

Nice try. But you can't fool me into thinking you're town that easily.

Silly old Galzria!

No, see, "Mafia" the game, is a title, thus receives a capital letter. Whereas the faction "mafia" is informal, and would not be capitalized (sometimes it is, but it's not required). As you did not capitalize your 'm', it is clear you are speaking of a desire to be scum. And the only people who really say such things ARE scum. Nobody, as town, every REALLY goes "Aww, I wish I was with the evil guys". It's a scumslip akin to opening the day with "Well that sucked". Town knows somebody will die at night, thus when someone shows up dead there's no real feeling of surprise. But scum like to appear sympathetic towards town's plight, thus the fake sadness.

In any case, your scumslip here is obvious, and I think everybody else should join me in a Vote: Fuzzy

[Archetype]

I investigated Eevee last night and I can verify this statement.

Vote: Eevee

[Twistedarcher]

Arch's claim is fake. I'M the real cop.

Vote: Archetype


I, too, want to play Mafia

[mail-mi]

I framed Eevee and Arche! I am scum!

I think a wagon on Vote: mail-mi is appropriate.

[Twistedarcher]

Anyone around and want to play some goko?

[Dsell]

Vote: Morgrim7

[Archetype]

Vote: Morgrim7

Too soon.

[sudgy]

Vote: Eevee

It's weird not being in any mafia games...

[mail-mi]

I want to play mafia.

Arch's claim is fake. I'M the real cop.

Vote: Archetype


I, too, want to play Mafia

I have an idea! Join my game!

[sudgy]

I want to, also, but I can't...  (Notice I didn't even say the word "m(M)afia")

[mail-mi]

I want to play mafia AND Mafia!!!!!!

[ashersky]

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

[Galzria]

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Lies. My last two games were XXIII (XXIV ended before XXIII, and only two games have been played since), which ended in my victory - and ZMXIII (only ZMXIV has been played since), which ended in my victory. One was town, the other scum.

See? It hasn't been that long. And I'm kinda half signed up for a few others. I don't know if I'm in them, and I don't have the energy to check. If I get a PM, I'll know that I am though.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

[yuma]

I want to play mafia.

Tell people to sign up for CLUE mafia!

[Eevee]

I want to play mafia.

Tell people to sign up for CLUE mafia!

People, sign up for cluedo mafia!

[spiritbears]

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

He seems like a nice guy to me.....

[Twistedarcher]

Oh my god I just discovered that you can click on a quote to go to the original post. This makes everything so much easier!

[mail-mi]

Oh my god I just discovered that you can click on a quote to go to the original post. This makes everything so much easier!

Rly? U just noticed that?

[Twistedarcher]

Oh my god I just discovered that you can click on a quote to go to the original post. This makes everything so much easier!

Rly? U just noticed that?

Yeah, before if I wanted to see where a quote was from, I'd look at the time /date and try to find it based on that.

[Dsell]

I cannot believe that Terra Mystica III is still going on. IV ended months ago! Guess you guys must be planning each move very carefully.

[Grujah]

Witch Brew II started on  December 15, and is still going on.

And Witch Brew I ended in a month.

[Insomniac]

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Lies. My last two games were XXIII (XXIV ended before XXIII, and only two games have been played since), which ended in my victory - and ZMXIII (only ZMXIV has been played since), which ended in my victory. One was town, the other scum.

See? It hasn't been that long. And I'm kinda half signed up for a few others. I don't know if I'm in them, and I don't have the energy to check. If I get a PM, I'll know that I am though.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

I like to think Im a nice guy!

[mcmcsalot]

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Lies. My last two games were XXIII (XXIV ended before XXIII, and only two games have been played since), which ended in my victory - and ZMXIII (only ZMXIV has been played since), which ended in my victory. One was town, the other scum.

See? It hasn't been that long. And I'm kinda half signed up for a few others. I don't know if I'm in them, and I don't have the energy to check. If I get a PM, I'll know that I am though.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

I like to think Im a nice guy!

A little late I that insom...

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

He seems like a nice guy to me.....

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

He seems like a nice guy to me.....

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

He seems like a nice guy to me.....

[mail-mi]

vote: Galzria for never playing anymore.

Lies. My last two games were XXIII (XXIV ended before XXIII, and only two games have been played since), which ended in my victory - and ZMXIII (only ZMXIV has been played since), which ended in my victory. One was town, the other scum.

See? It hasn't been that long. And I'm kinda half signed up for a few others. I don't know if I'm in them, and I don't have the energy to check. If I get a PM, I'll know that I am though.

Also, Insomniac's a b**** when you're exhausted.

Everybody else sees the striked out c, right?

[chairs]

NEED MORE MAFIA

[Robz888]

NEED MORE MAFIA

Did you sign up for Forum Survivor yet? You should!

[Voltgloss]

Vote: Voltgloss

...I exist?

So, yes.  I have to apologize to everybody for my sudden vanishment around, uh, several months ago?  February?  March?  People tried to reach out to me several times and I was wholly non-responsive, which is not cool and I make no attempt to excuse myself.

So what happened?  Basically: 

(1) there was a personal life crisis that occurred suddenly and supplanted most everything leisure-wise and a lot of things non-leisure-wise in my life at the time;

(2) that, thankfully, got satisfactorily resolved (and I would prefer not to go into details other than that), but as a result I had to refocus my time and energies on non-leisure things (like, y'know, work and family) and thus STILL had precious little-to-no leisure time for several months thereafter; and

(3) I had no idea how to come back here, hat in hand, munching on crow.

We can thank Dominion: Guilds for my return, as I just today realized it was released (I haven't played Dominion since my vanishing either), and that made me realize I really needed to come back and rejoin this great community.

...and yeah I've got a lot to catch up on, and PMs to read, and threads to enjoy.  Not promising I can sign up for a game - yet - but we will see.

So:  I'm back.  Again, my apologies to all for disappearing. 

If you all don't lynch me by day's end I will be sorely disappointed. 

[Eevee]

Wow, awesome that you're ok and back. Warm welcome, this is great!

Vote: Happily ever after

[theory]

I think we are just happy to see you back and relieved that you are OK

[Voltaire]

Vote: Voltgloss

This is a very believable claim. Anyone counter-claiming I will find extremely scummy.

Seriously though welcome back! 

[Archetype]

Woooooo! Welcome back, we've all missed you and wondered were you had gone. Glad to see that you're OK!

[eHalcyon]

I hope you have time to catch up on that game we were co-modding. I don't even remember which it was.

Welcome back!

[Robz888]

Wow, all the Volts have returned to us. Glad to have you back!

We lost you shortly after Mafia XV, correct? you'll be pleased to know it's been full steam ahead--we are now in the midst of Mafia XXVIII, which is Harry Potter mafia.

(Mafia seem to win a lot, except when I am mafia.)


If you are ready to jump head first into a heavy game commitment, Forum Survivor has 1 spot left... http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8886.0

[Voltgloss]

(Mafia seem to win a lot, except when I am mafia.)

So, business as usual? 

Survivor looks TOO complex for my easing-back-into-things status... but you know what looks perfect?  Arch's game.  For which I've just /inned.  A 13-player game, with an intriguing but not TOO complicated gimmick to the roles - that's exactly what I need right now.

I am definitely going to limit myself to one Mafia game at a time for the reasonable future, though.  Maybe, maybe, alongside one non-Mafia game (cough 7 Wonders cough).  I still remember my game suffering greatly when trying to juggle multiple games at once - would like to avoid that if at all possible.

Greatly looking forward to rubbing shoulders with old companions while also getting to know the many new faces on the forum.  So glad to see things are going strong!

[sudgy]

You could check out the Shakespeare game that we ended up running (ashersky decided to take it over).  It was amazing!  Even though I lost (as scum), it was one of the best games I've played on here.

[Voltgloss]

You could check out the Shakespeare game that we ended up running (ashersky decided to take it over).  It was amazing!  Even though I lost (as scum), it was one of the best games I've played on here.

I saw VERY briefly that ash took that over, of which I wholeheartedly approve, and am very glad to hear it was a wild ride.  I'll definitely be reading that journey with great interest. 

Question:  have there been any heavily-Dominion-themed games since my vanishing?  Those have always been some of my favorite reads.  (Especially for those I've had the pleasure to mod.)

[Robz888]

You could check out the Shakespeare game that we ended up running (ashersky decided to take it over).  It was amazing!  Even though I lost (as scum), it was one of the best games I've played on here.

I saw VERY briefly that ash took that over, of which I wholeheartedly approve, and am very glad to hear it was a wild ride.  I'll definitely be reading that journey with great interest. 

Question:  have there been any heavily-Dominion-themed games since my vanishing?  Those have always been some of my favorite reads.  (Especially for those I've had the pleasure to mod.)

Yes! My follow-up hosted game, Mafia XXII: Bankers Beware, was Dominion themed. Like Mafia XI, it pushed the boundaries into role madness territory (too much so for some people, which I can't really disagree with, so we are stricter about dialing down the craziness in regular games now).

[Kuildeous]

I've been running a couple of Room 25 games, which is not Mafia, but it does have an interesting traitor element to it.

I haven't been planning to start a new one yet, but I may consider it.

There's still some finger-pointing and accusations, but it's nowhere near as intense as a Mafia game.

[eHalcyon]

Hmm, IIRC we finished that one RMM game where we kept shifting the theme.  We were co-modding with Galz's on his noir setup when you disappeared (that's one to catch up on) and after that I hosted an actual bastard game named "Conspiracy Theories".  It was pretty great.  My favourite part was when almost the entire town claimed werewolf.

[Dsell]

VOLTGLOSS I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK I MISSED YOU SO MUCH YAAAAAAAY HAPPY DAY

Edit: NOT ENOUGH EMOTICONS 

[mail-mi]

Hmm, IIRC we finished that one RMM game where we kept shifting the theme.  We were co-modding with Galz's on his noir setup when you disappeared (that's one to catch up on) and after that I hosted an actual bastard game named "Conspiracy Theories".  It was pretty great.  My favourite part was when almost the entire town claimed werewolf.

And liopoil pretty much claimed scum for us? Yeah, that was fun.

Welcome back! Even though you were gone before I came, I've heard much about you.

[Jorbles]

Glad to see you back! I agree that eHalc's RMM game is probably the craziest thing that you missed. Look forward to playing something with you in the future.

[Galzria]

Wow, awesome that you're ok and back. Warm welcome, this is great!

Vote: Happily ever after

I whole heartedly support this message. I'm very glad that you and everyone you know is ok. Life absolutely takes priority. That said, it's wonderful to have you back with us.

[Voltgloss]

I've been running a couple of Room 25 games, which is not Mafia, but it does have an interesting traitor element to it.

I haven't been planning to start a new one yet, but I may consider it.

There's still some finger-pointing and accusations, but it's nowhere near as intense as a Mafia game.

I'm taking a look at those threads, and that game does seem quite intriguing.  Mayhaps I'll sign up if/when a third one starts.

[ashersky]

Chiming in to say I'm so glad you are back VG, so we can promptly get in a town v town fight!

I hope the Shakespeare game lived up to your vision.  If not, you can always run a sequel!

[Archetype]

Chiming in to say I'm so glad you are back VG, so we can promptly get in a town v town fight!

I hope the Shakespeare game lived up to your vision.  If not, you can always run a sequel!

There should be a sequel regardless.

[Grujah]

This is awesome.

[yuma]

Vote: Voltgloss

policy vote for self voting; vote: voltgloss

But really, this is thrilling. Very glad to have you back. At first I was really confused as to why voltaire was posting that he was back again. Took me a minute to realize it was the other volt. This seriously made my day.

[raerae]

Yay, Volt!!!!

[Twistedarcher]

Harry Potter is teaching me that writing flavor is FUN

[yuma]

Harry Potter is teaching me that writing flavor is FUN

if you can keep up with it (tip, don't go on vacation and get super behind... you will never catch up)

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Harry Potter is teaching me that writing flavor is FUN

I'm really enjoying it, but I'm a bit worried about your obvious case of dementia regarding your imaginary non-portrait friend Prof. Dumbledore.

[Twistedarcher]

Harry Potter is teaching me that writing flavor is FUN

I'm really enjoying it, but I'm a bit worried about your obvious case of dementia regarding your imaginary non-portrait friend Prof. Dumbledore.

Are you SO sure that I'm the wrong one, and it's not EFHW?

I claim Dumbledore

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Harry Potter is teaching me that writing flavor is FUN

I'm really enjoying it, but I'm a bit worried about your obvious case of dementia regarding your imaginary non-portrait friend Prof. Dumbledore.

Are you SO sure that I'm the wrong one, and it's not EFHW?

I claim Dumbledore

I mean, EFHW wants Prof. McGonagall to be Headmistress, and McGonagall is a boss, so...

Vote TwistedArcher!

[nkirbit]

All the games are in night!  Waaah!

[chairs]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA it needs to be day in Clue.

[Voltaire]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA it needs to be day in Clue.

It needs to be day anywhere!

[Voltgloss]

[popsofctown]

I love how big this thread is

[chairs]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA it needs to be day in Clue.

It needs to be day anywhere!

Clue's the only game I'm still in right now.

[Galzria]

I love how big this thread is

There have been a whoooole lot of night's for people to talk during.

I love where this thread got it's roots. I love that people were concerned over the sheer idea of being in two games at once (OMG ROBZ IS SOOOO CRAZY).

[yuma]

I love how big this thread is

There have been a whoooole lot of night's for people to talk during.

I love where this thread got it's roots. I love that people were concerned over the sheer idea of being in two games at once (OMG ROBZ IS SOOOO CRAZY).

just read through parts of it and found some really good nuggets worth some laughs in there--apparently I didn't know this thread existed until MXI.... not sure how that happened. And I really miss Captain_Frisk and some of the other guys (and gals), but especially him. What a guy.

[Archetype]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

[mail-mi]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

Morgrim.

[sudgy]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

Nope, he disappeared during MXXII.  We never saw him again.

[Archetype]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

Morgrim.

That's who I forgot!

[sudgy]

Of all the people that disappeared, he's probably the one I miss the most.

[Galzria]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

Nope, he disappeared during MXXII.  We never saw him again.

He's done so before though. Just up and dropped off for months on end, and then one day he just came back. I'm hoping that he'll return again once more to us soon. He was all personality. He was awesome.

[Jimmmmm]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

Morgrim.

Possible Qvist now?

[sudgy]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

Morgrim.

Possible Qvist now?

He's done it before, let's hope he comes back.

[shraeye]

SFS, I miss that guy.

[mcmcsalot]

SFS, I miss that guy.

Yea, he modded my first mafia game, I was waiting anxiously for ds9 to start and he messaged me saying blitz would be a really good intro, I swear he made me mafia on purpose because I think town would have been a disaster in that game, but having you and eevee to carry me to a flawless victory assured that I was never going to stop playing mafia.

[ashersky]

SFS, I miss that guy.

He was a good one.  I don't think he would have made it through the Civility debacle, though.  I mean, he would have been on the side of "good" and all.  But I think he wouldn't have liked that it got that way.

[Jimmmmm]

SFS, I miss that guy.

Yea, he modded my first mafia game, I was waiting anxiously for ds9 to start and he messaged me saying blitz would be a really good intro, I swear he made me mafia on purpose because I think town would have been a disaster in that game, but having you and eevee to carry me to a flawless victory assured that I was never going to stop playing mafia.

Well at least one good thing came out of that game.

(No I actually really enjoyed it - probably my favourite game I didn't win. The end was annoying though.)

[mcmcsalot]

SFS, I miss that guy.

Yea, he modded my first mafia game, I was waiting anxiously for ds9 to start and he messaged me saying blitz would be a really good intro, I swear he made me mafia on purpose because I think town would have been a disaster in that game, but having you and eevee to carry me to a flawless victory assured that I was never going to stop playing mafia.

Well at least one good thing came out of that game.

(No I actually really enjoyed it - probably my favourite game I didn't win. The end was annoying though.)

Ah yes, eevee and shraeye screaming for me to letting me hammer for the win was awesome.

[shraeye]

ha, I remember that QT where we were like hammerhammerhammerHAMMERHAMMMER...HAAAAMMMMMMERRRR!!!

[nkirbit]

I loved how for HP, EFHW cut out all the pregame and started a new thread.  I think every mafia game should do that!

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I loved how for HP, EFHW cut out all the pregame and started a new thread.  I think every mafia game should do that!

I quite liked it too, makes it much easier to reread the thread.

[sudgy]

Some people don't like it...  (at least me and ash)

[yuma]

Some people don't like it...  (at least me and ash)

I don't. I like keeping everything in the same spot and my biggest problem with it is that I don't get updates to my e-mail from the new thread until I post in it. So that can mean I don't notice that there is a new thread and don't prioritize getting online, or even if I do notice I miss out on a whole day's activity via e-mail, which when I am /on can make a huge difference in terms of how behind I am in a game... once I fall behind in a game I have a very hard time catching up.

[nkirbit]

That's fair enough, I hadn't really considered that.  I don't even get messages sent to my email because I'd rather keep everything mafia on this site and out of my email inbox, but that's certainly a good reason to dislike the new thread.

[chairs]

That's fair enough, I hadn't really considered that.  I don't even get messages sent to my email because I'd rather keep everything mafia on this site and out of my email inbox, but that's certainly a good reason to dislike the new thread.

I had to turn off notifications because I was getting tonnes.

[yuma]

That's fair enough, I hadn't really considered that.  I don't even get messages sent to my email because I'd rather keep everything mafia on this site and out of my email inbox, but that's certainly a good reason to dislike the new thread.

I had to turn off notifications because I was getting tonnes.

I will admit I have stopped posting in other parts of the forum because I was tired of getting updates from dominion related threads, rather than mafia related threads, but I couldn't play mafia with my schedule w/o those e-mail updates. I would also die of complete boredom at work... 10 hour days in which I only have 5-6 hours (or less on the weekend) of actual work to do.

[nkirbit]

I assume f.ds is blocked at your work?

Is your job a situation where you have to sit around and be, "on call" in case something comes up, or are you really just done at a point and know you won't have anything else to do?

[yuma]

I assume f.ds is blocked at your work?

Is your job a situation where you have to sit around and be, "on call" in case something comes up, or are you really just done at a point and know you won't have anything else to do?

Yep blocked. There is one test I am "on call" but mostly my workload is designed to allow for time to repeat any tests that might fail during my day. However, my tests are more predictable--or rather they aren't very predictable so our baseline for acceptability is extended so that I rarely have tests that fair and need to be repeated.

[Twistedarcher]

I assume f.ds is blocked at your work?

Is your job a situation where you have to sit around and be, "on call" in case something comes up, or are you really just done at a point and know you won't have anything else to do?

Vote: Nkirbit for extreme rolefishing.

[theory]

I assume f.ds is blocked at your work?

Is your job a situation where you have to sit around and be, "on call" in case something comes up, or are you really just done at a point and know you won't have anything else to do?

Yep blocked. There is one test I am "on call" but mostly my workload is designed to allow for time to repeat any tests that might fail during my day. However, my tests are more predictable--or rather they aren't very predictable so our baseline for acceptability is extended so that I rarely have tests that fair and need to be repeated.

Have you tried either:

http://boardgamestrategy.net/forum

or

http://50.116.53.199/forum

[yuma]

I have not. I will do so. Thanks!

[Voltgloss]

That's fair enough, I hadn't really considered that.  I don't even get messages sent to my email because I'd rather keep everything mafia on this site and out of my email inbox, but that's certainly a good reason to dislike the new thread.

I had to turn off notifications because I was getting tonnes.

This.

[mcmcsalot]

That's fair enough, I hadn't really considered that.  I don't even get messages sent to my email because I'd rather keep everything mafia on this site and out of my email inbox, but that's certainly a good reason to dislike the new thread.

I had to turn off notifications because I was getting tonnes.

This.

That's one option, deciding to stop going on to that email is another...

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

No one is talking in the non-night game and other things are still in night!
And no one is talking enough in assorted spectator QTs and whatnot either!

Silly weekend people, having meaningful things to do away from the computer.

[Voltgloss]

Tonight, I <i>could</i> talk, but choose to sleep peacefully instead.  G'night!

[Archetype]

 

[mail-mi]

Tonight, I <i>could</i> talk, but choose to sleep peacefully instead.  G'night!

Lol so hard.

[Archetype]

So I found mail-mi on Facebook.

Hm...

[Robz888]

So I found mail-mi on Facebook.

Hm...

How? I want to...

[Archetype]

I know mail-mi's full name, but I won't post it out in the open in case he doesn't want the entire world knowing. But he can probably PM you it if he wants.

I've found you too, Robz.

[Robz888]

Well, shucks! Friend me or something. I don't bite. (except the heads off of people who argue with me)

[Archetype]

Well, shucks! Friend me or something. I don't bite. (except the heads off of people who argue with me)

Well, alright. Friend request incoming. Get ready to have your news feed bombarded by lame puns and Idaho things.

[Robz888]

Well, shucks! Friend me or something. I don't bite. (except the heads off of people who argue with me)

Well, alright. Friend request incoming. Get ready to have your news feed bombarded by lame puns and Idaho things.

Oh. Please. YOU are the one who will regret being my FB friend, friend.

[Robz888]

Oh my goodness you are so young.

[Robz888]

Did we know you were one of the super young ones? I knew you were young, but wow. I'm ancient.

[Archetype]

Haha, yeah I've posted I was faulty young. Mail-mi slightly younger than me and sudgy is slightly older.

But yeah. Still younger than the most people on here.

[Robz888]

I am 10 years older than you. And I'm not very old!

[Archetype]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

[Galzria]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Goodness I must be decrepit then... I'm older than Robz...

[ashersky]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Goodness I must be decrepit then... I'm older than Robz...

Me too.  I think I'm older than you.

[Robz888]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Go to bed! Do your homework! Be nice to girls! Stay away from drugs!

[Galzria]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Goodness I must be decrepit then... I'm older than Robz...

I can prove that I'm just a crotchety old man too!










































































































I don't have a facebook

[Robz888]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Go to bed! Do your homework! Be nice to girls! Stay away from drugs!

The rest of us will be drinking.

[Robz888]

I don't have a facebook

??

[ashersky]

I don't have a facebook

I don't either.

[Robz888]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

[ashersky]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

When Facebook first came out, it required a .edu email address.  I had already graduated.  From college.

[ashersky]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Also, /obligatoryMySpacejoke.

[Galzria]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

[Archetype]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

All I know about it is it's a photo sharing site (and video?) and at least half the people my age are obsessed with it.

[Archetype]

Well I guess it's an app, not a site. Or maybe it's a site too. I don't know.

[Galzria]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

All I know about it is it's a photo sharing site (and video?) and at least half the people my age are obsessed with it.

A girl from work took my phone from me the other day so she could snap a "selfie" of herself and put her contact in. I had to look up what the term meant, else look super uncool.

[ashersky]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

All I know about it is it's a photo sharing site (and video?) and at least half the people my age are obsessed with it.

A girl from work took my phone from me the other day so she could snap a "selfie" of herself and put her contact in. I had to look up what the term meant, else look super uncool.

You're not married, I assume.

[Galzria]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

All I know about it is it's a photo sharing site (and video?) and at least half the people my age are obsessed with it.

A girl from work took my phone from me the other day so she could snap a "selfie" of herself and put her contact in. I had to look up what the term meant, else look super uncool.

You're not married, I assume.

No. However that didn't stop me from being just sliiiiiightly concerned at first, until I realized it's just a "picture of oneself."

[Dsell]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

Twitter is so fun. So so fun. You can tailor it to be whatever you want but having a non-stop stream of comedy has made it one of my favorite apps/websites.

[Twistedarcher]

Having used online games / websites / whatever since I was about 10 or so, I was always used to being one of the youngest people on whatever I was doing. It's weird to me that not only is this not true anymore, but there's also people who are more than just a few years younger than I am.

[mail-mi]

So I found mail-mi on Facebook.

Hm...

What are you waiting for? Friend me!

[Jimmmmm]

I've found multiple people on here on Facebook. Still deciding on whether I want to start friending people.

[Dsell]

Anyone is welcome to friend me if you find me. I sorta kinda used to have a policy that I'd only friend people I know in real life but to be honest I know some of you guys better than a few of my Facebook friends XD.

[Archetype]

Anyone is welcome to friend me if you find me. I sorta kinda used to have a policy that I'd only friend people I know in real life but to be honest I know some of you guys better than a few of my Facebook friends XD.

I'll go find you!

[Dsell]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Go to bed! Do your homework! Be nice to girls! Stay away from drugs!

Confirming this. Stay in school! Do well on the PSAT!

[sudgy]

So that makes you...

25 years old! That's not too old. But I guess I'm looking up and you're looking down.

Go to bed! Do your homework! Be nice to girls! Stay away from drugs!

Confirming this. Stay in school! Do well on the PSAT!

Hehe, I don't go to school...

I'm homeschooled

[Robz888]

I've found multiple people on here on Facebook. Still deciding on whether I want to start friending people.

Do it!!!

[chairs]

I deleted my facebook because I spent too much time on it.

Also, I'm 29 and now feel very old.

[Robz888]

I accept all friend requests unconditionally: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2259319

[mail-mi]

I accept all friend requests unconditionally: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2259319

Sent

[Robz888]

Wow. You are just a kid. What a world!

Don't pick up any of the insulting, profane language I use on FB. And don't be disrespectful to authority figures, the way that I am. Brush your teeth before bed, and apply yourself at school. Read books!

[Archetype]

And mail-mi won't accept mine 

[Twistedarcher]

Mail-mi, you look like I did when I was your age. Minus the weird face tattoo.

[Archetype]

I really didn't expect mail-mi to look like he does. I had a mental picture that he had brown hair and no glasses. But that's probably because of his avatar.

Robz on the other hand looks a lot like Zelda Link, I think.

[sudgy]

Woah, that is not what I expected Robz to look like.  (I didn't send a friend request, just looked at the picture)

[Robz888]

Woah, that is not what I expected Robz to look like.  (I didn't send a friend request, just looked at the picture)

Well what did you expect me to look like? I'm just, you know, a normal human male.

[Eevee]

You should all add me to see what a weird language I actually speak!

[Grujah]

I know mail-mi's full name, but I won't post it out in the open in case he doesn't want the entire world knowing. But he can probably PM you it if he wants.

I've found you too, Robz.

I've found Robz on FB way before, like, Diplomacy 1.

[Robz888]

You should all add me to see what a weird language I actually speak!

It's totally weird. Sometimes in my head I pronounce things the way Eevee does, just for fun. I loved how he said "ashersky." For me it's "asher" + "sky". But Eevee said it like "a share sky." Silly Pokemon.

[Robz888]

I know mail-mi's full name, but I won't post it out in the open in case he doesn't want the entire world knowing. But he can probably PM you it if he wants.

I've found you too, Robz.

I've found Robz on FB way before, like, Diplomacy 1.

Yeah, we used to gchat before losing that game horrendously.

[Grujah]

I don't have a facebook

I don't either.

Me neither.
My duck, however, does have a profile, and I manage it.

 

[Archetype]

You should all add me to see what a weird language I actually speak!

What's your first name? I'll look it up on Robz's friends list.

[Robz888]

You should all add me to see what a weird language I actually speak!

What's your first name? I'll look it up on Robz's friends list.

Eevert, duh.

[Archetype]

The name 'Eevee' makes much more sense now.

I also expected him to be a lot older.

[Eevee]

The name 'Eevee' makes much more sense now.

I also expected him to be a lot older.

A lot? Well that's interesting! Why?

Ps you draw well 

[Archetype]

I always pictured you as a grizzly old man playing poker in a casino with stacks of chips in front of you while wearing dark sunglasses.

And thanks!

[mail-mi]

Mail-mi, you look like I did when I was your age. Minus the weird face tattoo.

That's an authentic roll-on tattoo from Hawaii. It came off the next day. However, it looked better on my adopted sister, who is black.

I really didn't expect mail-mi to look like he does. I had a mental picture that he had brown hair and no glasses. But that's probably because of his avatar.

Robz on the other hand looks a lot like Zelda Link, I think.

I have contacts now.

[ashersky]

Mcmc, at least, looks EXACTLY how I pictured.

[mcmcsalot]

Haha I was waiting for someone to comment about me once robz posted. I will also accept(would love) friend requests.

Also eevee you absolutely never respond to my messages, it makes me sad.

[Archetype]

I sent you one, Mcmc.

Have you found me in his friends list yet, ashersky?

[Robz888]

Mcmc, at least, looks EXACTLY how I pictured.

Despite being brothers, me and mcmc look absolutely nothing alike.

[raerae]

You should all add me to see what a weird language I actually speak!

I spent some of yesterday and today looking up Finnish companies to identify their industry.  That's a pretty little country you have, sir.  Goofy language but pretty country.

[mcmcsalot]

I sent you one, Mcmc.

Have you found me in his friends list yet, ashersky?

You are very talented!

[Jimmmmm]

Eevee, whats with the llama DPs and lack of Eevee DPs?

[Dsell]

Having used online games / websites / whatever since I was about 10 or so, I was always used to being one of the youngest people on whatever I was doing. It's weird to me that not only is this not true anymore, but there's also people who are more than just a few years younger than I am.

Hey this sounds like me too!

[mail-mi]

Mcmc, at least, looks EXACTLY how I pictured.

Despite being brothers, me and mcmc look absolutely nothing alike.

No you don't.

[mail-mi]

Btw, I'm making an F.DS facebook group.

Unless there already is one.

[Dsell]

Btw, I'm making an F.DS facebook group.

Unless there already is one.

I think Axxle made one but deleted it when he found out there was a page for CouncilRoom.com that some people had already liked. But tbh, that page is pretty old and hasn't been updated in a while, nor does a page like that lend itself to discussion as well as a group does. So I think it's a good idea.

If only we had a forum where we could all talk and play games...

[Archetype]

I sent you one, Mcmc.

Have you found me in his friends list yet, ashersky?

You are very talented!

Thank you! I like your LoL banner thingy!

[sudgy]

Btw, I'm making an F.DS facebook group.

Unless there already is one.

Oh, while I wouldn't friend people on here there, I would totally join this.  Is there a link?

[Eevee]

Haha I was waiting for someone to comment about me once robz posted. I will also accept(would love) friend requests.

Also eevee you absolutely never respond to my messages, it makes me sad.

Hearing that made me sad! It's absolutely not intentional, I actually now remember reading one just before falling asleep and forgetting about it until now.. I'm so so sorry! Messaging you on facebook right away!

[mail-mi]

Hm. It seems that the older you are, the less scummy you usually are. Me, Sudgy, and Arch are all the young'uns, and we're always suspected.

[mail-mi]

Btw, I'm making an F.DS facebook group.

Unless there already is one.

Oh, while I wouldn't friend people on here there, I would totally join this.  Is there a link?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1405496049672387/1405606609661331/?notif_t=like

[ashersky]

Someone's from Idaho, right?  Thinking of you and everyone there with the fires raging.  Stay safe.

[Archetype]

Yeah, that's me. There's nothing too major, but the air is really bad. Luckily we're pretty far away from the flames, so we should be safe. But thanks for your concern, ashersky. Hopefully the fires don't spread too far.

[Archetype]

Would anyone want to play Covert Action? It's a social deduction game along the lines of The Resistance and Mafia, but the teams are open and you don't know the roles of the players on your team.

[mail-mi]

Would anyone want to play Covert Action? It's a social deduction game along the lines of The Resistance and Mafia, but the teams are open and you don't know the roles of the players on your team.

Maybe. open up a thread and explain the rules.

[yuma]

Why is MXXIX locked?

[ashersky]

Why is MXXIX locked?

Is it possible there was a hammer?  I'm too lazy to count.

[ashersky]

Why is MXXIX locked?

I did a vote count for D2...

I see nkirbit with 1 vote, Robz with 1 vote, lio with 2 votes.  That's not counting phantom Eevee/mail-mi votes on the vote counts.  Dunno, no one got majority lynched, anyway.

[nkirbit]

I'm almost certain that there wasn't a hammer, unless we completely missed it.  Certainly no one with 5 votes at the moment.

[yuma]

Why is MXXIX locked?

Is it possible there was a hammer?  I'm too lazy to count.

well it was locked by Robz... Maybe it was something with someone /outing or a civility issue (certainly hope not). But mostly I am posting to make sure it wasn't a mistake so it can be fixed if it was.

[Twistedarcher]

How can you tell who locked it?

[Voltaire]

Robz was the last to post - my guess is he locked it by accident.

[yuma]

How can you tell who locked it?

The e-mail's I receive say who locked it.

[Robz888]

Absolutely a mistake, my apologies--big time. I clicked it by accident, but then thought it had no effect. Didn't realize I'd locked it!

[Archetype]

See people. This is what happens when you make Robz a mod.    

Would anyone want to play Covert Action? It's a social deduction game along the lines of The Resistance and Mafia, but the teams are open and you don't know the roles of the players on your team.

Maybe. open up a thread and explain the rules.

I may tommorow. But I don't want it to start until Survivor is over.

[Twistedarcher]

That will probably be a long time, it seems!

[Robz888]

Indeed! Although I promise no challenges will take as long as this one....

[Galzria]

Indeed! Although I promise no challenges will take as long as this one....

Haha, I love the length. It feels almost like an entire game (that could be run again ) in itself.

[yuma]

yay! we are back!

[Dsell]

Yuma, I drove through your neck of the woods probably ish today! (Part of Utah, along with parts of Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado)

[yuma]

Yuma, I drove through your neck of the woods probably ish today! (Part of Utah, along with parts of Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado)

Wowzers! You were all over the place! Hope you liked the mountains!

[mail-mi]

Yuma, I drove through your neck of the woods probably ish today! (Part of Utah, along with parts of Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado)

That's my neck too...

... weird that yuma and i have the same neck...

... 

[chairs]

FWIW I'm in KS/MO, if anybody's ever headed that direction 

[Dsell]

All told I was on the road for over 11 hours, though I hit a few delays and missed a turn. I had a similar drive yesterday and another tomorrow.

And the mountains were gorgeous.

Yuma, I drove through your neck of the woods probably ish today! (Part of Utah, along with parts of Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado)

That's my neck too...

... weird that yuma and i have the same neck...

... 

Siamese twinclaim?

[raerae]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

All I know about it is it's a photo sharing site (and video?) and at least half the people my age are obsessed with it.

A girl from work took my phone from me the other day so she could snap a "selfie" of herself and put her contact in. I had to look up what the term meant, else look super uncool.

So...you guys gone on a date yet or...?

[Galzria]

Is it becuase you've moved on to Twitter and instagram?

Twitter I at least know about.

Instagram I couldn't tell you the slightest thing about except to say that I've heard it said before.

All I know about it is it's a photo sharing site (and video?) and at least half the people my age are obsessed with it.

A girl from work took my phone from me the other day so she could snap a "selfie" of herself and put her contact in. I had to look up what the term meant, else look super uncool.

So...you guys gone on a date yet or...?

My girlfriend would not approve if we did.

[shraeye]

you officeheart-breakin' SoB...says raerae.

[Tables]

Oh gosh Resistance just got locked with the final mission going ahead. Jimm not auto-resolving = total troll.

Now I'm either quivering with anticipation, or have to pretend that I am until the results come back.

[Jimmmmm]

Oh gosh Resistance just got locked with the final mission going ahead. Jimm not auto-resolving = total troll.

Now I'm either quivering with anticipation, or have to pretend that I am until the results come back.

Results are not too far away. Nobody give the game away!

[Twistedarcher]

Oh cmon Jimm!

[Jimmmmm]

I'll be home in 5 hours, and do it then. Now shh, there's a reason I locked the thread.

[liopoil]

Jimmm, stop telling me to guess who oberon is and tell us if we won!

[Twistedarcher]

Jimmm, stop telling me to guess who oberon is and tell us if we won!

Don't listen to anything this spy says!

[Jimmmmm]

Gosh you guys are impatient. Hold on.

[ashersky]

I was right about TA.  Gotta trust my gut.

[nkirbit]

Boooooooooooooooo

[Twistedarcher]

I was right about TA.  Gotta trust my gut.

Did you think I was good, or evil?

[ashersky]

Boooooooooooooooo

Boo?  You won.

[ashersky]

I was right about TA.  Gotta trust my gut.

Did you think I was good, or evil?

You and nkirbit were partners, as I suspected from the beginning.

[Jimmmmm]

Should I just unlock the game thread so you can talk about it there, or do you want to let people guess first?

[Jimmmmm]

I really want to see who everyone thinks is who before everything's given away.

[ashersky]

I really want to see who everyone thinks is who before everything's given away.

Some of us have sorted out who is isn't, given we're waiting for you.

[Jimmmmm]

I really want to see who everyone thinks is who before everything's given away.

Some of us have sorted out who is isn't, given we're waiting for you.

What are you waiting for me for?

[Twistedarcher]

Nah let people guess. Maybe edit your first post in here warning of possible spoilers?

[Tables]

So Jimmmm, how many people are yet to guess? I want to see what people thought.

[Grujah]

Got this in mail today, though I might share:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mafia-the-party-game



I chuckled at "Play up to 14 Different Roles"

[ashersky]

It's been like 2 days since M30 PMs went out...start already!

[Voltgloss]

It's been like 2 days since M30 PMs went out...start already!

I think liopoil is waiting for someone to confirm PM receipt.

[Voltgloss]

specvig: Archetype

[sudgy]

specvig: Archetype

+1

And, I already know the flip...   

[nkirbit]

specvig: Archetype

Seriously!

[Jorbles]

He didn't prewrite the flavour? Or he's trolling real hard.

[Voltaire]

Troll mod!

[nkirbit]

I thought he was just trolling, but it's been a half hour haha

[liopoil]

specvig: Archetype

+1

And, I already know the flip...   

tell us the flip in the speccy?

[mail-mi]

This is what I PM'd him after I saw it:

Thread Locked.

Flip tomorrow!

I hate you.

[Robz888]

Stop! We are all very eager and frustrated, but this is a borderline illegal conversation.

I'll show you the historically acceptable way of expressing yourself in this thread, in my next post.

[Robz888]

....

[Archetype]

Don't make me modkill ya'll.

That would give the REDACTED the win.

[chairs]

Dat flip

[Galzria]

....

f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Voltgloss]

[Galzria]

[Galzria]

[mail-mi]

[Galzria]

[Galzria]

[Eevee]

Did I miss something?

[chairs]

[Jorbles]

No mafia games to post in for the first time in weeks. Feels good man.

[chairs]

No mafia games to post in for the first time in weeks. Feels good man.

Dat feel.

[yuma]

No mafia games to post in for the first time in weeks. Feels good man.

Feels good? Feels GOOD?

It feels like something, but whatever it is, it is not good!

[Jorbles]

No mafia games to post in for the first time in weeks. Feels good man.

Feels good? Feels GOOD?

It feels like something, but whatever it is, it is not good!

stop modding and start playing

[yuma]

No mafia games to post in for the first time in weeks. Feels good man.

Feels good? Feels GOOD?

It feels like something, but whatever it is, it is not good!

stop modding and start playing

I was! But they killed me!

[Jorbles]

No mafia games to post in for the first time in weeks. Feels good man.

Feels good? Feels GOOD?

It feels like something, but whatever it is, it is not good!

stop modding and start playing

I was! But they killed me!

That's my strategy! Kill yuma first!

[Voltgloss]

My new Day 1 algorithm:

1.  IF shraeye is in the game -->  Vote: shraeye
2.  ELSE IF Robz is in the game -->  Vote: Robz
3.  ELSE you clearly made a mistake somewhere, go back to Step 1

[Twistedarcher]

We now have zero mafia games running!

[Robz888]

We should pretty much always lynch mail-mi Day 1 and be in good shape.

[Twistedarcher]

Mail-mi has been scum in 5/9 of the last normal games he's played in (Dynasty Warriors, KC-Goons-Masq, Pirates, Samurai and Ninjas, Harry Potter). That's insane.

[Archetype]

Hangman or Grimm tale needs to start up soon.

[mail-mi]

We should pretty much always lynch mail-mi Day 1 and be in good shape.

[sudgy]

All my town PRs (other than BMXIII) have been Doctors or variants of Doctors...

[Voltgloss]

Mail-mi has been scum in 5/9 of the last normal games he's played in (Dynasty Warriors, KC-Goons-Masq, Pirates, Samurai and Ninjas, Harry Potter). That's insane.

I am sure shraeye has him beat.

[nkirbit]

Mail-mi has been scum in 5/9 of the last normal games he's played in (Dynasty Warriors, KC-Goons-Masq, Pirates, Samurai and Ninjas, Harry Potter). That's insane.

I am sure shraeye has him beat.

I don't think I've ever seen Shraeye lynched.  I've been in 4 games with him, he's been scum in all 4, and survived one and got NKed 3 times (Dr. Who, LOTR2, MC).

[nkirbit]

Mail-mi has been scum in 5/9 of the last normal games he's played in (Dynasty Warriors, KC-Goons-Masq, Pirates, Samurai and Ninjas, Harry Potter). That's insane.

I am sure shraeye has him beat.

I don't think I've ever seen Shraeye lynched.  I've been in 4 games with him, he's been scum in all 4, and survived one and got NKed 3 times (Dr. Who, LOTR2, MC).

Oh, he was town in Clue.. also NKed there.

[sudgy]

Is there any way to automatically get the speccy for games I'm not playing?  Or more a list for people who want this so that mods can send the speccy to all the people on them (that are not playing)?

[mail-mi]

Is there any way to automatically get the speccy for games I'm not playing?  Or more a list for people who want this so that mods can send the speccy to all the people on them (that are not playing)?

This... is a brilliant idea. In fact... http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9695.new#new

[yuma]

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

[nkirbit]

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

It is mondayish!

[ashersky]

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

It has been the longest N0 in f.ds history...

[Twistedarcher]

Thread is unlocked! It's coming!

[mail-mi]

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

It has been the longest N0 in f.ds history...

Just because I had time on Saturday to send PMs and people wanted it locked til monday.... Anyway go post your complaints in the game thread 

[mail-mi]

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

It is mondayish!

so toy story can start now right? cause even one second without an ongoing mafia game is apparently unbearable...

It has been the longest N0 in f.ds history...

Thread is unlocked! It's coming!

And you still haven't posted yet. Sigh.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm not playing!

[Eevee]

Anyone want to play dominion? I'm available and willing for the next couple of hours!

PS. Also in a chatty mood.

[Ozle]

Anyone want to play dominion? I'm available and willing for the next couple of hours!

PS. Also in a chatty mood.

Yeah!

Oh wait, just seen your PS. in that case im out

[Morgrim7]

Someone start a mafia game that I'm in. Please.

[mail-mi]

Someone start a mafia game that I'm in. Please.

BM14! BM14! BM14!

[Ozle]

I am so bored, stuck in a hotel room in dead end part of manchester all week for work purposes.

So bored ive read the entirety of toy story mafia from the beginning!

[Ozle]

Also have been playing non-stop 'Cant stop'. I dont seem to be able to stop playing it!

I wonder why no one has done this as a forum game

[Voltgloss]

You should join Grimm Mafia.  It'd be great fun to play a game with you again.  Morgrim's in it!

[Ozle]

You should join Grimm Mafia.  It'd be great fun to play a game with you again.  Morgrim's in it!

Naaah, im not playing forum games any more

[Ozle]

However, if anyone is ever bored, look through the posts i made in  Bankers Beware Mafia and see if you canfind the link to them all.....

[Galzria]

You should join Grimm Mafia.  It'd be great fun to play a game with you again.  Morgrim's in it!

Naaah, im not playing forum games any more

Essentially this time of year... I'm out of almost everything at this point.

[Teproc]

 

[WalrusMcFishSr]

[Jimmmmm]

mail-mi's online!

[mail-mi]

mail-mi's online!

Mail-mi's eating lunch!

[Jimmmmm]

mail-mi's online!

Mail-mi's eating lunch!

Lynch before lunch!

[ashersky]

Aaaaaaand I'm dead in all games.

[Voltaire]

Every game is in night. Unacceptable!

[WalrusMcFishSr]

[ashersky]

I see at least one person who will play Adventure a Time! Mafia.

[shraeye]

awwww yeahhh.  Adventure time.

[Dsell]

Bravest Warriors Mafia anyone?

[mcmcsalot]

Its weird when my real life friend interest cross over with my forum friends interest. Specifically because my real life friends that hold those interests would never in a million years be on this forum.

[yuma]

one more for Mafia and the Chocolate Factory!

TA, nkirbit, liopoil? Dsell? shraeye, raerae? Someone new? Others I am forgetting to mention?

[nkirbit]

I can't, sorry.  There's a week or two in december during which I'll be unable to play mafia at all, so just doesn't make much sense for me to join a game atm.

This is especially a bummer since Voltaire's game looks like a lot of fun.  Time travel!

[Twistedarcher]

I too am taking a break from mafia for now

[yuma]

sad faces... hope you'll be back soon! you two have been great additions!

[Jimmmmm]

sad faces... hope you'll be back soon! you two have been great additions!

This.

[Voltaire]

sad faces... hope you'll be back soon! you two have been great additions!

This.

Indeed - I hope you both come back refreshed and invigorated, whenever that is. 

[ashersky]

Anyone heard from Voltgloss?  He's been gone for 3 days with no VLA announcement...

Is anyone FB friends with him or anything?

[Robz888]

Anyone heard from Voltgloss?  He's been gone for 3 days with no VLA announcement...

Is anyone FB friends with him or anything?

Well, we've gone through this before, having no outside way to contact him. Three days is just three days though... I wouldn't worry yet.

[ashersky]

Anyone heard from Voltgloss?  He's been gone for 3 days with no VLA announcement...

Is anyone FB friends with him or anything?

Well, we've gone through this before, having no outside way to contact him. Three days is just three days though... I wouldn't worry yet.

It's more that he's in BM14 and hasn't posted.  Trying to decide if I need to replace him.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Just name the merged tribe "Voltgloss Tribe"

Problem solved

[shraeye]

does that mean we all get to ultra-hydra play as voltgloss in any mafia games he's in?

[jotheonah]

whatever happened to Volty the first time? He still wasn't back when I left.


Also, HI GUYS! How's it been?

[Robz888]

whatever happened to Volty the first time? He still wasn't back when I left.


Also, HI GUYS! How's it been?

Helloooooooooooo!

I don't know. Both Volts mysteriously reappeared a few weeks ago. I think Voltaire completely explained his absence, and Voltgloss sort of left it up to the imagination, although it does appear that he's gone again, which is very sad. I hate when our Forum friends vanish!

You're back just in time to sign up for Mafia XXXVI!

How's life?

[jotheonah]

Oh life's really good! Hiatus from here was a good thing for two reasons: 1, don't play much dominion since iso died (haven't even played with Guilds yet once, though I hope to rectify that over the holidays!) 2, I work at a computer all day now and forum games are just way too tempting a distraction. If there's blitz running this weekend, I might play.

I have gotten into MTG in a big way since I left. It fills that dominion shaped whole in my heart and wallet. But I miss you guys!

[Archetype]

Oh life's really good! Hiatus from here was a good thing for two reasons: 1, don't play much dominion since iso died (haven't even played with Guilds yet once, though I hope to rectify that over the holidays!) 2, I work at a computer all day now and forum games are just way too tempting a distraction. If there's blitz running this weekend, I might play.

I have gotten into MTG in a big way since I left. It fills that dominion shaped whole in my heart and wallet. But I miss you guys!

I HAVEN'T READ YOUR POST BUT I SAW THAT YOU POSTED AND IM REALLY HAPPY YOUR BACK.
ok now to read what you said.

[Archetype]

Hooray, you're back! And you may still play blitz game! I thought you left before Voltgloss dissapeared the first time?

[Robz888]

Oh life's really good! Hiatus from here was a good thing for two reasons: 1, don't play much dominion since iso died (haven't even played with Guilds yet once, though I hope to rectify that over the holidays!) 2, I work at a computer all day now and forum games are just way too tempting a distraction. If there's blitz running this weekend, I might play.

I have gotten into MTG in a big way since I left. It fills that dominion shaped whole in my heart and wallet. But I miss you guys!

We've been having a grand old time! The Forum Games are running as strong as ever, and we've gained some awesome new people. Some really great mafia games lately, and I'm running a "Survivor" style game that is a lot of fun.

Goko was actually perfectly acceptable (okay, not PERFECTLY acceptable, but pretty okay) until a few weeks ago when it started lagging and freezing and doing weird things. Now it's in dire straits, and we don't know what's going on at Goko central command since they don't respond to any of our queries. We are living in Dark Times now.

[Jimmmmm]

Also, HI GUYS! How's it been?

IT'S JOTHEFREAKINGONAH! HAI!!

[Archetype]

Oh life's really good! Hiatus from here was a good thing for two reasons: 1, don't play much dominion since iso died (haven't even played with Guilds yet once, though I hope to rectify that over the holidays!) 2, I work at a computer all day now and forum games are just way too tempting a distraction. If there's blitz running this weekend, I might play.

I have gotten into MTG in a big way since I left. It fills that dominion shaped whole in my heart and wallet. But I miss you guys!

We've been having a grand old time! The Forum Games are running as strong as ever, and we've gained some awesome new people. Some really great mafia games lately, and I'm running a "Survivor" style game that is a lot of fun.

Goko was actually perfectly acceptable (okay, not PERFECTLY acceptable, but pretty okay) until a few weeks ago when it started lagging and freezing and doing weird things. Now it's in dire straits, and we don't know what's going on at Goko central command since they don't respond to any of our queries. We are living in Dark Times Ages now.

FTFY

[mail-mi]

Oh life's really good! Hiatus from here was a good thing for two reasons: 1, don't play much dominion since iso died (haven't even played with Guilds yet once, though I hope to rectify that over the holidays!) 2, I work at a computer all day now and forum games are just way too tempting a distraction. If there's blitz running this weekend, I might play.

I have gotten into MTG in a big way since I left. It fills that dominion shaped whole in my heart and wallet. But I miss you guys!

JOTH! I've read about you.

[Ozle]

Whereas i have never heard of you!

[Dsell]

Joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Morgrim7]

whatever happened to Volty the first time? He still wasn't back when I left.


Also, HI GUYS! How's it been?

well look who it is

[sudgy]

Mail-mi, hurry up!  I'm dying of anxiety here!

[2.71828.....]

Mail-mi, hurry up!  I'm dying of anxiety here!

yeah.  "saturday after I get home" is rather vague

[shraeye]

what the heck?  flippity zip. 

[yuma]

whatever happened to Volty the first time? He still wasn't back when I left.


Also, HI GUYS! How's it been?

sad I wasn't around for this....

[jotheonah]

eh I think I might be back-ish maybe. /in'd for a couple little things.

[yuma]

eh I think I might be back-ish maybe. /in'd for a couple little things.

glad to hear it!

But this is where the real action is... but might not be your definition of little...

But this might be... we are calling it "semi-blitz"

[jotheonah]

maybe around christmas break time

[ashersky]

FYI, if you haven't yet, nominate for this year's mafia game awards!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9871.0

[yuma]

Why is it so dead?

[Eevee]

Ozle just threw his phone across the room after losing to me in quiz up.

I feel great.

[Ozle]

Ozle just threw his phone across the room after losing to me in quiz up.

I feel great.

I could cope with losing the odd Disney game, or one of your random guess-a-thons, but at MATHS!!
Grrrrrrr

[Eevee]

Ozle just threw his phone across the room after losing to me in quiz up.

I feel great.

I could cope with losing the odd Disney game, or one of your random guess-a-thons, but at MATHS!!
Grrrrrrr

Just to clarify, everytime the subject isn't anything sports or pop culture related, Ozle insist on calling it a guess-a-thon.

[Ozle]

Ozle just threw his phone across the room after losing to me in quiz up.

I feel great.

I could cope with losing the odd Disney game, or one of your random guess-a-thons, but at MATHS!!
Grrrrrrr

Just to clarify, everytime the subject isn't anything sports or pop culture related, Ozle insist on calling it a guess-a-thon.

To clarify further: Everytime a subject isn't Disney, Eevee calls it 'gay'

I do believe im 12-7 up for the day!

[Eevee]

Ozle just threw his phone across the room after losing to me in quiz up.

I feel great.

I could cope with losing the odd Disney game, or one of your random guess-a-thons, but at MATHS!!
Grrrrrrr

Just to clarify, everytime the subject isn't anything sports or pop culture related, Ozle insist on calling it a guess-a-thon.

To clarify further: Everytime a subject isn't Disney, Eevee calls it 'gay'

I do believe im 12-7 up for the day!

To clarify even further: The two subjects I rejected were Michael Jackson and Star Trek. I rest my case.

[Ozle]

Ozle just threw his phone across the room after losing to me in quiz up.

I feel great.

I could cope with losing the odd Disney game, or one of your random guess-a-thons, but at MATHS!!
Grrrrrrr

Just to clarify, everytime the subject isn't anything sports or pop culture related, Ozle insist on calling it a guess-a-thon.

To clarify further: Everytime a subject isn't Disney, Eevee calls it 'gay'

I do believe im 12-7 up for the day!

To clarify even further: The two subjects I rejected were Michael Jackson and Star Trek. I rest my case.

Which are sooo much worse than Big Bang Theory and Classic Rock (which turned out to not be classics, or Rock!)

[Ozle]

13-7! Just realised you lost at Mammals too

Plus, I remember you rejecting Maths: hard as well!

[Teproc]

Ugh, this really needs to get on Android soon, I'm sick of hearing about it and not playing it.

[Dsell]

Ugh, this really needs to get on Android soon, I'm sick of hearing about it and not playing it.

Saaaaaaaaame

[Eevee]

Ugh, this really needs to get on Android soon, I'm sick of hearing about it and not playing it.

Saaaaaaaaame

Subtle hint for us to stop talking about it?

[Dsell]

Ugh, this really needs to get on Android soon, I'm sick of hearing about it and not playing it.

Saaaaaaaaame

Subtle hint for us to stop talking about it?

No! Just eager for it to be on Android!

[Ozle]

Sorry  I only do esoteric hints

But yeah, if only we had a separate thread to talk about it in...

[Galzria]

Sorry  I only do esoteric hints

But yeah, if only we had a separate thread to talk about it in...

Even if you did, you still wouldn't use it.

Oh wait...

[ashersky]

Final reminder, PM your nominations!

This is for mafia games awards.  Nominations close on Wednesday.

[ashersky]

Voting is now open for mafia awards 2013.  Threads exist for each category.  Feel free to discuss the nominees, but please do not lobby for any particular one.  You may only vote once.

Honorable mentions will be listed at some point.

[Voltaire]

How do I move my game thread to Mafia Game Threads? Help a new mod out. 

[nkirbit]

In the bottom left there is a move thread button. Click it and mafia game sub forum will be one of your options

[Voltaire]

In the bottom left there is a move thread button. Click it and mafia game sub forum will be one of your options

Thanks!

[Eevee]

I've concluded dying night one is certainly no fun. Martyrdom is less cool than they promised, this is not what I signed up for! Can someone resurrect me, pretty please?

[Eevee]

I've concluded dying night one is certainly no fun. Martyrdom is less cool than they promised, this is not what I signed up for! Can someone resurrect me, pretty please?

Otherwise it's just eternal night for me. Very fitting for this thread, I guess.

[Ozle]

I see the 'always kill eevee' thread we started on the hidden board is taking its toll

[Eevee]

Happy holidays to you all!

We celebrate on Christmas Eve already, I've already opened my presents and everything!

[Archetype]

Christmas officially begins in about 12 hours for me, but I probably won't get online until much later, so Merry Christmas Happy Holidays everyone!

[Ozle]

Happy holidays to you all!

We celebrate on Christmas Eve already, I've already opened my presents and everything!

Did you get the one i sent too you?

Eevee,
Finland,
Europe

Thats your address right?

Also, whats the point in the christians setting a date for the birth of baby jesus if you go amd celebrate commercialist gift giving on a seperate day!

[chairs]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/

L4D2 free on steam.

[popsofctown]

Happy holidays to you all!

We celebrate on Christmas Eve already, I've already opened my presents and everything!

Did you get the one i sent too you?

Eevee,
Finland,
Europe

Thats your address right?

Also, whats the point in the christians setting a date for the birth of baby jesus if you go amd celebrate commercialist gift giving on a seperate day!

He is an Eevee, he had to get to open all of his stones on Christmas Eve so that the stores would be open for him to return the ones he didn't want.  On Christmas he can play with the stone he liked the most and evolve.

[Voltaire]

Anyone who wants to sub in to RMM12, please PM me!

[ashersky]

2013 award winners!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10120.0

[ashersky]

Happy New Year everyone!

[Robz888]

Mostly V/LA today.

[sudgy]

Happy New Year everyone!

It's New Years Eve...

[Voltaire]

Happy New Year everyone!

It's New Years Eve...

Where you are, maybe.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

[Archetype]

+4

[Teproc]

Haha, look at these Americans stil stuck in 2013 ! How cute.

(Happy New Year !)

[jotheonah]

People of the future! Tell us your wisdom.

[Galzria]

I'm currently time traveling forward from the past. In my time, it's still 2013, but I figured by coming here and posting during 2014, I could make sure the world isn't going to end... or something like that.

Anyway, everything seems to be in order here, so I'll leave this post here in 2014 and head back to my own time. Enjoy your future, and I'll talk to ya'll when I catch up to my own time stream later!

[liopoil]

I'll talk to ya'll when I catch up to my own time stream later!

you're never going to catch up, you'll always be however many hours behind you are now... I mean, unless you move somewhere else. those few hours just don't mean a difference in year anymore!

[Ozle]

Ahh, but he can can't he?

Time is slower in space, thats been proved.
So in theory, if Galz digs a hole in the ground and sits in it for the next 50 or so years he may catch up a bit!

[superzeldalogan]

Hello, everybody! My name is Logan, and I love Zelda.

I'm new here, so don't prod me about my ability to "internet" too much.  I'm a visual designer. I've worked (and still am) with Zelda Dungeon.net,  and I spend many a time on artwork. I'm illustrating a book. Spencer told me to say

"I know Spencer IRL."

Whatever that means.

Hi!

[Archetype]

Except I go by Archetype here. 

But yeah, this is my friend. He asked what I do with my life so I linked him to the Mafiascum wiki.

[Jimmmmm]

Welcome! I'm glad your avatar isn't too similar to Robz' - that could get confusing. Great to have you onboard!

[Robz888]

Oh my gosh, another Zelda lover!

[Twistedarcher]

People need to join Diffusion of Power, it's been too long since I've played a game!

[yuma]

People need to join Diffusion of Power, it's been too long since I've played a game!

It is possible that sudgy might want to consider going to one of the smaller setups that require less players? Just an idea, not a demand as I am not currently in the game. I guess it depends on how badly he wants to start the game up...?

[Jimmmmm]

People need to join Diffusion of Power, it's been too long since I've played a game!

It is possible that sudgy might want to consider going to one of the smaller setups that require less players? Just an idea, not a demand as I am not currently in the game. I guess it depends on how badly he wants to start the game up...?

I don't know about anyone else, but I signed up to play Diffusion of Power. If it is changed I may reconsider whether I want to play.

[mail-mi]

People need to join Diffusion of Power, it's been too long since I've played a game!

It is possible that sudgy might want to consider going to one of the smaller setups that require less players? Just an idea, not a demand as I am not currently in the game. I guess it depends on how badly he wants to start the game up...?

I don't know about anyone else, but I signed up to play Diffusion of Power. If it is changed I may reconsider whether I want to play.

Same. Or mayo clinic, but whatev.

[yuma]

People need to join Diffusion of Power, it's been too long since I've played a game!

It is possible that sudgy might want to consider going to one of the smaller setups that require less players? Just an idea, not a demand as I am not currently in the game. I guess it depends on how badly he wants to start the game up...?

I don't know about anyone else, but I signed up to play Diffusion of Power. If it is changed I may reconsider whether I want to play.

that is fair, if I am going to play I would prefer Diffusion of power as well, but really it was just a thought to consider if people are really pressing for a game to start... it does feel like its been a while since one started...

[jotheonah]

btw, a random spencer just facebook friended me. Is that you, Archetype?

[Archetype]

btw, a random spencer just facebook friended me. Is that you, Archetype?

Yes.

[sudgy]

Ah, the joys of being a mod...

Like getting 1294836017882 PMs.

[Twistedarcher]

And now you get to do it all over!

The restart was my fault -- I forgot to log out of quick topic on nkirbits computer while I was using it. Were no longer in the same place and we are much more careful while playing games usually. Sorry everyone, I feel really bad about it.

[Robz888]

No probs. It happens!

[Ozle]

And now you get to do it all over!

The restart was my fault -- I forgot to log out of quick topic on nkirbits computer while I was using it. Were no longer in the same place and we are much more careful while playing games usually. Sorry everyone, I feel really bad about it.

Thats the Tree Stump role for you in the next set of PMs then!

[jotheonah]

longest. night. ever.

[yuma]

And now you get to do it all over!

The restart was my fault -- I forgot to log out of quick topic on nkirbits computer while I was using it. Were no longer in the same place and we are much more careful while playing games usually. Sorry everyone, I feel really bad about it.

thanks for being honest!

[Eevee]

That's totally ok, TA.

I'll be playing mafia again, soon!

[Twistedarcher]

And now you get to do it all over!

The restart was my fault -- I forgot to log out of quick topic on nkirbits computer while I was using it. Were no longer in the same place and we are much more careful while playing games usually. Sorry everyone, I feel really bad about it.

thanks for being honest!

No problem -- although the true props should go to nkirbit. He was the one who spoke up after gaining an unfair advantage, so props to him!

[jotheonah]

In other news, apparently I almost killed former MTG rules manager Mark Gottlieb today.

http://tabakrules.tumblr.com/post/73527192527/there-does-seem-to-be-an-inconsistency-between-the#permalink-notes

[nkirbit]

In other news, apparently I almost killed former MTG rules manager Mark Gottlieb today.

http://tabakrules.tumblr.com/post/73527192527/there-does-seem-to-be-an-inconsistency-between-the#permalink-notes

It's also interesting how squallmonger is just a "monger", right?  It should be a human monger?

Edit: That's actually not a human, I don't think.. are those extra arms?

[Teproc]

I think you should follow your cold heart and vote.  You think your parents might be aliens.  That's harsh.

I just wanted to show my appreciation for this post. Makes me crack up everytime I reread the thread.

[liopoil]

should go in out of context thread, except it might already be there...

[mail-mi]

Ladies and gentlemen, this thread has the same number of pages as the random stuff thread.

[Eevee]

Anyone want to goko with me nowww?

[mail-mi]

Anyone want to goko with me nowww?

im up for a game, although i may have to leave for dinner in the middle

[yuma]

Both normal games in night! No other games currently ongoing! I protest to the powers that be that made this occur!

[Voltaire]

I'm dead in everything. Someone sign up for the last slot in AD.

[Teproc]

You could also sign up for Super Mario, it's only missing 2 people and maybe we could get it to start soon ?

[yuma]

I'm dead in everything. Someone sign up for the last slot in AD.

Here, here!

[ashersky]

It's been more than a day since AD mafia PMs went out and no game start...mod lies!

[Teproc]

Is it me or is quicktopick down ?

[Eevee]

Is it me or is quicktopick down ?

It's down.

[mail-mi]

hey if you need a mafia game to waste time on, go sign up for wheel of time! its going to be pretty freakin' awesome, and there are only 2 spots filled!

[Eevee]

Hopping on to a plane soon, destination Umeeeerica. Hopefully it's a country with wifi and everything is business as usual, but I'll be out of access until tomorrow travelling.

[mail-mi]

Hopping on to a plane soon, destination Umeeeerica. Hopefully it's a country with wifi and everything is business as usual, but I'll be out of access until tomorrow travelling.

Umerica?

[Eevee]

Hopping on to a plane soon, destination Umeeeerica. Hopefully it's a country with wifi and everything is business as usual, but I'll be out of access until tomorrow travelling.

Umerica?

[mail-mi]

Hopping on to a plane soon, destination Umeeeerica. Hopefully it's a country with wifi and everything is business as usual, but I'll be out of access until tomorrow travelling.

Umerica?

(you won't get this unless you've watched hetalia.)

[popsofctown]

Anyone want to goko with me nowww?

Your isotropic username is so sad now

[Ozle]

Anyone want to goko with me nowww?

Your isotropic username is so sad now

MWUAHAHAHA

[shraeye]

I think it's a bad idea to have started so many mafia games so close to eachother.  a blitz, RMM, newbie game started very close to eachother.  And the philosophers just started.  People are hungriest for mafia when other games are wearing down.  If we start them all up at the same time, we get this cycle where there are tons of games, followed by no games.  I think it's much better to have more constant stream.

Just some thoughts.

[Teproc]

I agree it's unfortunate, it just kind of happened that way. The only ones who truly overlap are Wheel of Time and House of Cards though : Blitz is Blitz so I don't think it's problematic, and Philosopher's is starting while WoT and HoC are nearing the end of day 1.

It does create a problem that people who find themselves in no games because of being lynched/killed have to wait more for a new game to start. Not sure what can be done about that aside from doing Blitz.

[yuma]

I think it's a bad idea to have started so many mafia games so close to eachother.  a blitz, RMM, newbie game started very close to eachother.  And the philosophers just started.  People are hungriest for mafia when other games are wearing down.  If we start them all up at the same time, we get this cycle where there are tons of games, followed by no games.  I think it's much better to have more constant stream.

Just some thoughts.

It wasn't planned to start a bunch of games at the same time, rather a bunch of games ended  (like in the span of 5 days 3 games ended just out of coincidence) and then other games filled around the same time. And these games will all end at different intervals, so I don't think it is a huge problem and I think they all started far enough away from each other (maybe a little more space would have been ideal). But I think we are ok and will get out of the cycle once a few games get close to mylo while others are still in day2 or day3.

[Teproc]

What the...

[yuma]

What the...

What the what?

[Jimmmmm]

What the...

What the what?

What the what what?

[Eevee]

Lot's of familiar names there all of a sudden!

[Eevee]

The Lord of the Rings trilogy is 480k words. I'm pretty sure that there are a couple of us who have posted more on this forum.. Seems crazy, uh?

On an unrelated note, it would be hilarious to see our posts in a book format! I'd totally read that.

[Twistedarcher]

Woah!

[Galzria]

How is it that I'm still second, and only 300 posts behind Robz? Especially after being mostly absent the last 4 months+, and skipping... how many Mafia games now?

[Axxle]

You've left a pretty big legacy, galz.

[mcmcsalot]

Ooh I forgot about this

[Jorbles]

How is it that I'm still second, and only 300 posts behind Robz? Especially after being mostly absent the last 4 months+, and skipping... how many Mafia games now?

Didn't you spend a lot of time playing guess the number?
484

Rolled 1d1000 : 559, total 559

[Jorbles]

Damn.

[Ozle]

The Lord of the Rings trilogy is 480k words. I'm pretty sure that there are a couple of us who have posted more on this forum.. Seems crazy, uh?

On an unrelated note, it would be hilarious to see our posts in a book format! I'd totally read that.

Just tried it, got bored after three pages. Might just skip to the middle when the fun starts!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=853;area=showposts;start=5975

[Ozle]

How is it that I'm still second, and only 300 posts behind Robz? Especially after being mostly absent the last 4 months+, and skipping... how many Mafia games now?

It's all those penis enlarger adverts you kept posting in the advertising forum

[Galzria]

How is it that I'm still second, and only 300 posts behind Robz? Especially after being mostly absent the last 4 months+, and skipping... how many Mafia games now?

It's all those penis enlarger adverts you kept posting in the advertising forum

If you swam for 10+ hours in 10°C water, you'de swear by them too!

[theory]

How is it that I'm still second, and only 300 posts behind Robz? Especially after being mostly absent the last 4 months+, and skipping... how many Mafia games now?

It's all those penis enlarger adverts you kept posting in the advertising forum

If you swam for 10+ hours in 10°C water, you'de swear by them too!

[Ozle]

How is it that I'm still second, and only 300 posts behind Robz? Especially after being mostly absent the last 4 months+, and skipping... how many Mafia games now?

It's all those penis enlarger adverts you kept posting in the advertising forum

If you swam for 10+ hours in 10°C water, you'de swear by them too!

Yep that's why I generally don't spend 10+ hours in 10c water!

Well, it's one of the reasons, the other reasons is.... I'm not crazy!

[liopoil]

Lot's of familiar names there all of a sudden!

man, I'm just over 100 off of the top 10!

[Robz888]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

[Dsell]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

Better get to writing those Adventurer jokes!!

[Axxle]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I'm sad that I was bumped off the Top 10 Post Voters... maybe we can work something out.

[Twistedarcher]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

Time to go make some memes.

[Dsell]

Lot's of familiar names there all of a sudden!

Next year's April Fool's joke: A takeover by the forum games players. All hail the Mafia Strategy Forum!

[Ozle]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I've never really looked at respect levels, looks like I'm only 100 or so off you as well. I reckon I can knock that out in a couple of weeks

[eHalcyon]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I'm sad that I was bumped off the Top 10 Post Voters... maybe we can work something out.

What do you have in mind?

[Ozle]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I'm sad that I was bumped off the Top 10 Post Voters... maybe we can work something out.

What do you have in mind?

I'm no expert but I think he is proposing you both fly to New York, kidnap theory's partner, and hold them to ransom in return for top 5 stats.

[theory]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I'm sad that I was bumped off the Top 10 Post Voters... maybe we can work something out.

What do you have in mind?

I'm no expert but I think he is proposing you both fly to New York, kidnap theory's partner, and hold them to ransom in return for top 5 stats.

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have database access. But what I do have are a very particular set of forum permissions; forum permissions I have acquired over a very long career. Permissions that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my partner go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.

[Ozle]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I'm sad that I was bumped off the Top 10 Post Voters... maybe we can work something out.

What do you have in mind?

I'm no expert but I think he is proposing you both fly to New York, kidnap theory's partner, and hold them to ransom in return for top 5 stats.

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have database access. But what I do have are a very particular set of forum permissions; forum permissions I have acquired over a very long career. Permissions that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my partner go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!

[ashersky]

Enabled up-votes on mafia games would be tremendous.

[yuma]

Enabled up-votes on mafia games would be tremendous.

and highly manipulatable by people (especially dead ones or spectators--although you could make rules against that, but I don't think we need more rules at this point when we already have a block on it) voting up posts or even people in-game creates some weird situations. I for one prefer keeping the votes away from the forum games.

[ashersky]

Enabled up-votes on mafia games would be tremendous.

and highly manipulatable by people (especially dead ones or spectators--although you could make rules against that, but I don't think we need more rules at this point when we already have a block on it) voting up posts or even people in-game creates some weird situations. I for one prefer keeping the votes away from the forum games.

I just meant for April 1.

[yuma]

Oh... the post count thing is for April 1st?

I thought it was permanent! Bummer.

April 1 shouldn't be called April Fool's Day. It should be called Building Up Expectations Just to Squash Them Later Day.

[Twistedarcher]

Or Gullible Day

[Eevee]

It's much harder to stay on the Top 10 Most Respected List. I keep checking SheCan'tSayNo's respect level. At this point I'm just waiting for the day he ousts me.

I'm sad that I was bumped off the Top 10 Post Voters... maybe we can work something out.

What do you have in mind?

I'm no expert but I think he is proposing you both fly to New York, kidnap theory's partner, and hold them to ransom in return for top 5 stats.

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have database access. But what I do have are a very particular set of forum permissions; forum permissions I have acquired over a very long career. Permissions that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my partner go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.

This was extremely funny. Well played!

[Eevee]

I want to be in Jimmm's signature too!

[Axxle]

Sorry Eevee.

[Jimmmmm]

 

[Axxle]

Hey, I called it first! 

[Jimmmmm]

Hey, I called it first! 

Didn't see it. We can both have that one.

[chairs]

What the...

What the what?

What the what what?

What the what what in the butt butt?

[Eevee]

After a looong period of not playing very well, I seem to be in a dominion groove again! Not sure if I've ever cracked top 10 on goko, but I'll take top 15 with a smile! I've been getting a lot of really fun engine boards today, and won like every game I've played except one where I accidentally shut my computer down in the middle of a game. Robz is looking strong in the top 10!

[Axxle]

Why is dominion in forum games?!

[chairs]

You guys need to teach me how to not be bad at dominion sometime.

[Ozle]

You guys need to teach me how to not be bad at dominion sometime.

Buy all those green cards

[Axxle]

One of my friends does a ?podcast? about mafia (plus a bit of music) if anyone's interested in listening (very much has a mafiascum spin to it though). Next one is starting now. http://mixlr.com/reckonerx/

[shraeye]

Does this person make their own mashups?  Because they are awesome.  Scratch that, they are incredible.

[popsofctown]

One of my friends does a ?podcast? about mafia (plus a bit of music) if anyone's interested in listening (very much has a mafiascum spin to it though). Next one is starting now. http://mixlr.com/reckonerx/

I totally nailed reckoner as scum in a newbie game once.  Just so you guyses know.

Actually I think I sheeped this really godlike player who had a scumread on him.  But it still counts!

[shraeye]

totally counts.  You've done mafiascum?  I did it once, and sorta liked it...but, still, I haven't been back yet.

[Axxle]

Does this person make their own mashups?  Because they are awesome.  Scratch that, they are incredible.

Missed this the first time. No, he finds them but undoubtedly they're awesome anyway.

One of my friends does a ?podcast? about mafia (plus a bit of music) if anyone's interested in listening (very much has a mafiascum spin to it though). Next one is starting now. http://mixlr.com/reckonerx/

I totally nailed reckoner as scum in a newbie game once.  Just so you guyses know.

Actually I think I sheeped this really godlike player who had a scumread on him.  But it still counts!

Haha, nice. I vigged him (along with one of his buddies) before I met him, it was glorious to watch him squirm a bit since it was a delayed vig.

totally counts.  You've done mafiascum?  I did it once, and sorta liked it...but, still, I haven't been back yet.

Pops is the original mafiascummer here!

[popsofctown]

I still crack up a little bit when I think about the defense of monopoly thread..

[Ichimaru Gin]

Weird. There were like 0 new games and now there are a bunch. Tempted to join another one, but it'll be my first time playing 3 at once.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Ichi's new nickname: Michigan. Just thought y'all should know.

[chairs]

So my dog died last Friday.

As it's no longer going to impact any games I am active in, I feel comfortable apologizing for my poor play in the games I was active in last week at the time this occurred.

[Robz888]

So my dog died last Friday.

As it's no longer going to impact any games I am active in, I feel comfortable apologizing for my poor play in the games I was active in last week at the time this occurred.

Very, very sorry. Best wishes.

[popsofctown]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

[Jimmmmm]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

Vote: pps

Lynch the traitor!

[AndrewisFTTW]

Sorry about your dog chairs, that's gotta be really tough.

[Axxle]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

no worries, I'm in three.

[Axxle]

So my dog died last Friday.

As it's no longer going to impact any games I am active in, I feel comfortable apologizing for my poor play in the games I was active in last week at the time this occurred.

Ooof, that's hard. Sorry chairs!

[Twistedarcher]

Sorry to hear that chairs!

[2.71828.....]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

Vote: pps

Lynch the traitor!

Why are you lynching pingpongsam for what popsofctown has done?  Trying for a mislynch are we?  Tricky

[Jimmmmm]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

Vote: pps

Lynch the traitor!

Why are you lynching pingpongsam for what popsofctown has done?  Trying for a mislynch are we?  Tricky

Because I can't read.

Vote: pops

[sudgy]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

Vote: pps

Lynch the traitor!

Why are you lynching pingpongsam for what popsofctown has done?  Trying for a mislynch are we?  Tricky

Because I can't read.

Vote: pops

He misread something?  That's always a scumslip.  Vote: Jimmmmm

[AndrewisFTTW]

I /in'ed for a mafiascum game.  Sorry about the betrayal guyz

Vote: pps

Lynch the traitor!

Why are you lynching pingpongsam for what popsofctown has done?  Trying for a mislynch are we?  Tricky

Because I can't read.

Vote: pops

He misread something?  That's always a scumslip.  Vote: Jimmmmm

Totally.

<b> vote: Jimm </b>

[Eevee]

So my dog died last Friday.

As it's no longer going to impact any games I am active in, I feel comfortable apologizing for my poor play in the games I was active in last week at the time this occurred.

So sorry. Best wishes.

[Dsell]

So my dog died last Friday.

As it's no longer going to impact any games I am active in, I feel comfortable apologizing for my poor play in the games I was active in last week at the time this occurred.

Really sorry, chairs. That's awfully tough.

[Archetype]

So my dog died last Friday.

As it's no longer going to impact any games I am active in, I feel comfortable apologizing for my poor play in the games I was active in last week at the time this occurred.

Just saw this - really sorry for your loss, chairs.

[Teproc]

Just realized I hadn't posted here : my laptop is deceased, and I'm on vacation so... I'm not around much. I'll be back home next week and will get it fixed/replaced then.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Wow. And just like that I'm down from 3 games to none. I'm going on a two week vacation pretty soon though, so this might be a good thing for now. Definitely get back into things when I return though.

[Eevee]

Hey, anyone interested in playing or running an ash-style blitz game asap?

Myself and Dsell would like to play, so we are short seven players and a mod.

[2.71828.....]

Hey, anyone interested in playing or running an ash-style blitz game asap?

Myself and Dsell would like to play, so we are short seven players and a mod.

I can do blitz

[Dsell]

Hey, anyone interested in playing or running an ash-style blitz game asap?

Myself and Dsell would like to play, so we are short seven players and a mod.

I can do blitz

Six players and a mod! Hooray!

[chairs]

Blitz!

[mail-mi]

Mod!

[mail-mi]

Mod!

....just kidding school starts tomorrow

[liopoil]

/in

Could be talked into modding if nobody else wants to

[liopoil]

Signups so far:

1. Eevee
2. Dsell
3. e
4. chairs
5. liopoil
6. A drowned Kernel
7. Teproc
8. Witherweaver
9?

mod:

[ashersky]

To start in a few hours?  I could run it.

[Eevee]

To start in a few hours?  I could run it.

Oh!

[A Drowned Kernel]

What are the deadlines like on blitz? 24 hours?

[ashersky]

What are the deadlines like on blitz? 24 hours?

24 or 48.

[liopoil]

Well we need at least two more players... would you mod even if it doesn't start in a few hours, a couple days instead? You could open a thread, then more people will see it.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I could do it but the sooner it starts the better for me.

[Eevee]

Why not start when we get the players?

[liopoil]

Why not start when we get the players?

I think that's the plan! I'm not sure we'll get the players in a couple hours. I'd be willing to play with just 7 or 8 instead of 9 - there are decent setups with that few players.

[ashersky]

Well we need at least two more players... would you mod even if it doesn't start in a few hours, a couple days instead? You could open a thread, then more people will see it.

Yeah, I can start up a thread in a bit.

I won't start it on a weekend, but otherwise, all good.

[Teproc]

I'm tempted by this, assuming this uses the usual awesome blitz setup.

[Witherweaver]

I can do blitz starting in like two hours.

[liopoil]

I'm tempted by this, assuming this uses the usual awesome blitz setup.

I can do blitz starting in like two hours.

Sweet that's 8. I don't know what the usual awesome blitz setup is. Is it the one with 2 ICs and 3 mafia with white flag and no NK? That one's 8 players.

[Eevee]

I'm tempted by this, assuming this uses the usual awesome blitz setup.

I can do blitz starting in like two hours.

Sweet that's 8. I don't know what the usual awesome blitz setup is. Is it the one with 2 ICs and 3 mafia with white flag and no NK? That one's 8 players.

Yea that one! So 8, not 9.

[liopoil]

Sweet, I've never played that setup, looking forward to it.

[Dsell]

Hooray!

[liopoil]

Wow, this filled in just over an hour... got to be a record. And there wasn't even a signup thread!

[Eevee]

Thread, thread, thread!

[ashersky]

Thread?  Thread.  http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11619.0

[Eevee]

Three games in night at once? Boooo!

[Hydrad]

The games trying to tell you to take a break eevee. Get some sleep

[Eevee]

The games trying to tell you to take a break eevee. Get some sleep

I refuse! Only 94 minutes until newbie mafia opens!

[Hydrad]

The games trying to tell you to take a break eevee. Get some sleep

I refuse! Only 94 minutes until newbie mafia opens!

But what if sludgy isn't online what will you do then. Your addicted eevee you need help.

[pacovf]

The games trying to tell you to take a break eevee. Get some sleep

I refuse! Only 94 minutes until newbie mafia opens!

But what if sludgy isn't online what will you do then. Your addicted eevee you need help.

Haha, sludgy.

[Hydrad]

I need to get back to my laptop. I've had so many spelling mistakes on my phone.

[Eevee]

I've never understood the tagging business. How do you people use this forum?

[liopoil]

tagging a thread makes it show up when you click on "show new replies to your posts". I usually just read all the posts on most of the whole forum anyway, (unread posts since last visit), but if I want to see the more "important" ones first I use show new replies.

[Teproc]

I've never understood the tagging business. How do you people use this forum?

People do it so that I shows up on their "new replies" lists. I don't because :
a) I go the "show unread posts" not the "show new replies" page
b) I take e-mail subscriptions for my mafia threads so that I can read them easily on my phone (as opposed to having to load the site and navigate it)

[liopoil]

Try http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?wap2 on your phone.

[Eevee]

I'm surprised people end up doing anything but pressing the button below. Well, and in case of mafia games just opening the subforum, it's not like there are ever a lot of threads with new posts at the same time.

[sudgy]

I don't see why people don't just use "show unread posts".  I just go there, see all the threads I want to look at (I'm pretty selective), and open a million tabs.

[Eevee]

How can you make threads you don't care about to not appear from the list?

[mail-mi]

How can you make threads you don't care about to not appear from the list?

not respond to them.

[Eevee]

How can you make threads you don't care about to not appear from the list?

not respond to them.

Nope. I always get a bunch of non-mafia games I've responded to on that list.

[Eevee]

Never played Avalon in my life.

[mail-mi]

How can you make threads you don't care about to not appear from the list?

not respond to them.

Nope. I always get a bunch of non-mafia games I've responded to on that list.

click the "plus" button next to the date, then click on "show new replies to your posts"

[Eevee]

Omg. Thanks!

[Teproc]

I don't see why people don't just use "show unread posts".  I just go there, see all the threads I want to look at (I'm pretty selective), and open a million tabs.

This is exactly what I do (besides following mafia games I'm in through e-mail).

[Eevee]

The mafia hangout and all this livestreaming of dominion gave me an idea. I wonder if it would be fun to go over old mafia games, the classics, in a live stream setting, analyzing what happened from hindsight, analyzing who played well and just generally walking down the memory lane. Maybe have two or three guys hosting it, and others could participate in chat, or even join in on the skype call.

Thoughts? Would this be interesting for anyone? It could also be a strategy talk session we've never really had outside of the games. In the game it's always difficult because you can't know if the other side is being genuine or not.

This might also help us to lure people who watch dominion streams into trying mafia, if it turned into a regular and popular thing, but that's of course thinking really far ahead. I think I want to try this if there are at least a couple other interested people and we can find a time that works for everyone.

[pacovf]

I would watch/listen to that, I think.

[Twistedarcher]

I'd be down. And I would also be interested in doing it for games I haven't read where I don't know who the scum are.

[mail-mi]

sounds cool. i'd watch, probably not be able to participate

[Archetype]

That sounds really awesome! I'd watch if nothing else.

[yuma]

I would participate but would only be able to do so via typing. The voice receiver on my computer is broken and I am too skint to by a new one.

Sounds like a lot of fun. I think my main hesitation is that I would like input from players who aren't around anymore (eHal, C-Frisk, etc...) as many of the games only have 2-3 of us who are active, but maybe that would be more fun with outsiders chiming in...

[Axxle]

I'd be interested in participating/listening. 

[Jimmmmm]

I'd be up for it.

[Eevee]

I would participate but would only be able to do so via typing. The voice receiver on my computer is broken and I am too skint to by a new one.

Sounds like a lot of fun. I think my main hesitation is that I would like input from players who aren't around anymore (eHal, C-Frisk, etc...) as many of the games only have 2-3 of us who are active, but maybe that would be more fun with outsiders chiming in...

Oh yeah, getting guys like Voltgloss, cayvie, O or Frisk to participate would be incredible. Sadly, I don't think it's realistic. Can you receive sound from others?

[Eevee]

Okay, so there is interest, yay! The problem, as was with the mafia hangouts, will be finding a time that works for most people. I'm thinking we should try sunday instead of friday or saturday, because that's a day people usually have the least plans on, in my experience. This brings us to timezone difficulties with Australians and monday morning work, but maybe if we decide the time early enough in advance we can work around those too.

I would want at least one or two guys with me on the mic, to make it a conversation rather than one person narrating. Preferably, someone who's really funny, because making this entertaining is the best way to keep it interesting. I think our residing "have-been-in-every-game-and-is-awesomely-funny-and-well-spoken" Robzie would be an awesome co-host, but sadly he leads a very busy journalistic career these days, so I don't know. Axxle, you could offer a insight to comparing us to mafiascum, I think that would be interesting.

Really, anyone who wants to talk with me, of course, doesn't matter in the slightest if you are newer. Just saying we need someone funnier than me on the mic to keep people entertained.

[Teproc]

Seems like a very cool idea, I'm interested.

[yuma]

Oh yeah, getting guys like Voltgloss, cayvie, O or Frisk to participate would be incredible. Sadly, I don't think it's realistic. Can you receive sound from others?

Yes, I can do that. The speakers work fine just recording from my end woudln't work. I could very easily type along in the chat box or whatever. At the least I would be willing to do research/reading before and maybe present the "panel" with a series of questions/comments to get the ball rolling?

[Eevee]

Awesome! I was just worried, because going through everything just by typing would be so much slower. You'll be able to participate just fine by typing, and pre-reading and questions sounds super
cool.

[Eevee]

Something should start! I'm all without a game.

[Dsell]

Eevee, I'd be down for a trip down forum game memory lane, if it fits within my schedule. Seems like lots o' fun.

[jotheonah]

SHould I change my avatar? Would you all freak out?

[Hydrad]

SHould I change my avatar? Would you all freak out?

I can't handle all this change

[Robz888]

SHould I change my avatar? Would you all freak out?

I would totally freak out.

[Jimmmmm]

I'm protesting. Who's with me?

[ashersky]

I'm protesting. Who's with me?

I randomly upvoted this one for you.  Everyone else should to.  Brilliant!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=7708.msg222767#msg222767

[Archetype]

Jim is the true hero of time.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Don't you know how confusing Mafia will be now?


Edit: Sorry this is too much. I can't take the identity crisis I'm having.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Do you guys want my head to explode?

[Dsell]

Oh this is just unacceptable.

[jotheonah]

I think I've found a solution that works for everyone.

[Teproc]

I'm protesting. Who's with me?

[Teproc]

I'm protesting. Who's with me?

Nah, too weird when I'm in actual games. Sorry.

[liopoil]

...and people freaked out when I changed from chapel to watchtower...

[Eevee]

The mafia hangout and all this livestreaming of dominion gave me an idea. I wonder if it would be fun to go over old mafia games, the classics, in a live stream setting, analyzing what happened from hindsight, analyzing who played well and just generally walking down the memory lane. Maybe have two or three guys hosting it, and others could participate in chat, or even join in on the skype call.

Thoughts? Would this be interesting for anyone? It could also be a strategy talk session we've never really had outside of the games. In the game it's always difficult because you can't know if the other side is being genuine or not.

This might also help us to lure people who watch dominion streams into trying mafia, if it turned into a regular and popular thing, but that's of course thinking really far ahead. I think I want to try this if there are at least a couple other interested people and we can find a time that works for everyone.

Mcmc has expressed interest in co-hosting this, so we should start thinking about a date. How would people feel about this coming sunday some time? Post here if you could make it, I guess.

Edit: That's not a good way. I'll create a new thread so we won't clog this one up.

[sudgy]

Where did the "!" (scum!sudgy) come from?  I had never heard of it when I started playing and thought it was a mafia thing, then my friend randomly used it in a completely different context...

[Witherweaver]

Where did the "!" (scum!sudgy) come from?  I had never heard of it when I started playing and thought it was a mafia thing, then my friend randomly used it in a completely different context...

I don't even know, but it made perfect sense to me the first or second time I saw it.

[Axxle]

I just did a quick google search for the origins and this seems about right after a quick skim: http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/46453848763/exclamation-compounds
http://fanlore.org/wiki/!

Basically it's adjective!noun that describes one hypothetical aspect of a character.

[Witherweaver]

I just did a quick google search for the origins and this seems about right after a quick skim: http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/46453848763/exclamation-compounds
http://fanlore.org/wiki/!

Basically it's adjective!noun that describes one hypothetical aspect of a character.

I think I'm going to start doing this in every day writing.  I'll refer to Frank as friend!Frank and that other dude I don't like as asshole!Tom.

[pacovf]

That implies that you are not sure if Frank is your friend, or Tom an asshole. Both are going to get you into trouble.

[Witherweaver]

That implies that you are not sure if Frank is your friend, or Tom an asshole. Both are going to get you into trouble.

Frank could be an asshole.  I mean, I only see him once and a while, and he seems nice, but who knows?  Tom could be a great guy and just always rubbed me the wrong way.

[pacovf]

But you just said that Tom was "that other dude [you] don't like"! How can he be that and "seem nice"? You are confusing me.

[jotheonah]

Where did the "!" (scum!sudgy) come from?  I had never heard of it when I started playing and thought it was a mafia thing, then my friend randomly used it in a completely different context...

I thought it was from formal logic and/or programming

[Eevee]

Is it just me, or does EgorK's new avatar look much like Robz's old one?

[2.71828.....]

Is it just me, or does EgorK's new avatar look much like Robz's old one?

if you squint really hard, maybe.  So it is most likely just you

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

I'm a little behind here, but are all these guys still gone?  No Joth?  No Frisk?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

SFS, I miss that guy.

+1

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

SFS, I miss that guy.

Yea, he modded my first mafia game, I was waiting anxiously for ds9 to start and he messaged me saying blitz would be a really good intro, I swear he made me mafia on purpose because I think town would have been a disaster in that game, but having you and eevee to carry me to a flawless victory assured that I was never going to stop playing mafia.

The role assignments were random.  (But were they really random?)

[liopoil]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

I'm a little behind here, but are all these guys still gone?  No Joth?  No Frisk?

Joth is sometimes around. Frisk is totally gone. Ozle was here for a while... cayvie came back briefly, played her on goko a couple times I think. Haven't seen O.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

.....I don't think he would have made it through the Civility debacle, though.  I mean, he would have been on the side of "good" and all.  But I think he wouldn't have liked that it got that way.

Should I even ask about this???  There was a debacle bigger than the one I started in a Mafia game?

[sudgy]

.....I don't think he would have made it through the Civility debacle, though.  I mean, he would have been on the side of "good" and all.  But I think he wouldn't have liked that it got that way.

Should I even ask about this???  There was a debacle bigger than the one I started in a Mafia game?

It shut a whole game down, and created the Civility Pledge.

That's the biggest one I can think of, so that's probably what he's talking about.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I always pictured you as a grizzly old man playing poker in a casino with stacks of chips in front of you while wearing dark sunglasses.

And thanks!

I really wish I had been here for this.  This actually describes me 15 years ago.  Rather precisely.  The glasses were dark enough that I would get comments on them.

And you must have been, what, 13 when you were playing those first mafia games?  Wow, it's so easy to forget how weird the internet is in someways.

[Archetype]

I always pictured you as a grizzly old man playing poker in a casino with stacks of chips in front of you while wearing dark sunglasses.

And thanks!

I really wish I had been here for this.  This actually describes me 15 years ago.  Rather precisely.  The glasses were dark enough that I would get comments on them.

And you must have been, what, 13 when you were playing those first mafia games?  Wow, it's so easy to forget how weird the internet is in someways.

14, I think. And I haven't gotten much better, haha.

Are you here to join us again, or just to check in to see how things have changed?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Great question, and the short answer is I don't know.  I haven't played Dominion since Iso shut down, so news of Goko was what brought me here.  That news was generally disappointing.

Mafia doesn't really interest me as a player, though I will give some thought to modding again.  What interests me most right now are other games played here.  I see that Pandemic never really took off after those 3 or 4 games, but I would love to play again.  I posted in the applicable thread, but I can't remember if the keeper of those details was Joth, so that thread may not be applicable or useful any longer.

Acquire also interests me, and an Acquire game got started, but the thread simply stopped.  I guess the game was abandoned.

What mafia game blew up over the Civility issue?

[mcmcsalot]

Sfs!!!!

Welcome back.

Was the civility issue the newbie game? I think it was newbie mafia 7? Maybe 9.

But I think it was a little more about a trend of people taking things personally as people getting hurt so the civility pledge was a bit of a reaffirmation of the fact that it's a game and it's meant to be fun and we all love eachother.

It's bound to happen in any online setting, empathy is nearly impossible without the ability to engage in facial mimicry and since we can't see eachother we can't empathize.

[shraeye]

Great question, and the short answer is I don't know.  I haven't played Dominion since Iso shut down, so news of Goko was what brought me here.  That news was generally disappointing.

Mafia doesn't really interest me as a player, though I will give some thought to modding again.  What interests me most right now are other games played here.  I see that Pandemic never really took off after those 3 or 4 games, but I would love to play again.  I posted in the applicable thread, but I can't remember if the keeper of those details was Joth, so that thread may not be applicable or useful any longer.

Acquire also interests me, and an Acquire game got started, but the thread simply stopped.  I guess the game was abandoned.

What mafia game blew up over the Civility issue?

YAAYAYYAYYAYYYYYYYY!!!  sfs!!!!!!!

[shraeye]

I'm not sure what happened to that Acquire game, but I most surely contributed to the game stopping; I am just too slow for forum games, it seems.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I always pictured you as a grizzly old man playing poker in a casino with stacks of chips in front of you while wearing dark sunglasses.

And thanks!

I really wish I had been here for this.  This actually describes me 15 years ago.  Rather precisely.  The glasses were dark enough that I would get comments on them.

And you must have been, what, 13 when you were playing those first mafia games?  Wow, it's so easy to forget how weird the internet is in someways.

14, I think. And I haven't gotten much better, haha.

Are you here to join us again, or just to check in to see how things have changed?

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

[sudgy]

Was the civility issue the newbie game? I think it was newbie mafia 7? Maybe 9.

Uh, NM7 is going on right now.  I think it was NMIII.

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Hey, I'm 17!

[mcmcsalot]

Was the civility issue the newbie game? I think it was newbie mafia 7? Maybe 9.

Uh, NM7 is going on right now.  I think it was NMIII.

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Hey, I'm 17!

oo! oo! I'm 22! Am I doing this right?

[Eevee]

SFS sighting! Maybe just play one mafia game, for old time's sake?

[Archetype]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

[AndrewisFTTW]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

[Archetype]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

I didn't know silverspawn was that young! And Awaclus is older. I can't remember if he's sudgy's age, or even older than that.

[chairs]

I'm 30

[A Drowned Kernel]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

Little younger, I'm 25.

[Ichimaru Gin]

18 here. Ageism is a very real prejudice (not on here, much more so in daily life).

[AndrewisFTTW]

18 here. Ageism is a very real prejudice (not on here, much more so in daily life).

I remember feeling discriminated against for my age when I posted on forums at age 16 or so. But now I know I was just a dumbass.

[2.71828.....]

wait, we are all sharing ages?  24 here.  I don't think anyone else has said that yet. 

[Hydrad]

23 here! I think I'm also unique?

so the range right now is 15ish-30ish?

Interesting.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Interesting.

Indeed 

[Eevee]

23 here! I think I'm also unique?

I'm 23 too.

[Ichimaru Gin]

18 here. Ageism is a very real prejudice (not on here, much more so in daily life).

I remember feeling discriminated against for my age when I posted on forums at age 16 or so. But now I know I was just a dumbass.

How did you feel you were treated by society though? I mean, there's always teenage angst and "me against the world" but people tend to draw a lot of (I think) unfair conclusions about someone based on their age. I'm not saying just about young people either, the elderly are also discriminated against.

[Hydrad]

23 here! I think I'm also unique?

I'm 23 too.

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!!

or we can team up and crush all the other obviously inferior ages.

[Twistedarcher]

23 here! I think I'm also unique?

I'm 23 too.

Same!

[liopoil]

18 here. Ageism is a very real prejudice (not on here, much more so in daily life).

I remember feeling discriminated against for my age when I posted on forums at age 16 or so. But now I know I was just a dumbass.

How did you feel you were treated by society though? I mean, there's always teenage angst and "me against the world" but people tend to draw a lot of (I think) unfair conclusions about someone based on their age. I'm not saying just about young people either, the elderly are also discriminated against.

Part of the reason I haven't outright said until now... that I'm 16.

[Twistedarcher]

18 here. Ageism is a very real prejudice (not on here, much more so in daily life).

I remember feeling discriminated against for my age when I posted on forums at age 16 or so. But now I know I was just a dumbass.

How did you feel you were treated by society though? I mean, there's always teenage angst and "me against the world" but people tend to draw a lot of (I think) unfair conclusions about someone based on their age. I'm not saying just about young people either, the elderly are also discriminated against.

Part of the reason I haven't outright said until now... that I'm 16.

I always had thought you were older -- you're wayyy too smart to be that young!

[Twistedarcher]

One of the games I used to play, Puzzle Pirates, had the widest age range of any game I've played. I started playing it when I was about 14, and I was in a crew with a lot of people my age, but also people in their 20s, 30s, going all the way up to some people who had grandkids. I've managed to keep in touch with a few of them -- it was definitely interesting talking to people with that diverse of an age range, and in my opinion made it a better experience.

[Hydrad]

One of the games I used to play, Puzzle Pirates, had the widest age range of any game I've played. I started playing it when I was about 14, and I was in a crew with a lot of people my age, but also people in their 20s, 30s, going all the way up to some people who had grandkids. I've managed to keep in touch with a few of them -- it was definitely interesting talking to people with that diverse of an age range, and in my opinion made it a better experience.

I was addicted to that game for a while. I think I also started when I was about 14! I didn't do as much talking to others though and mainly just played with my brother and sister.

[2.71828.....]

also, drunk mafia anuone?  I have finished a bottle of merlot and can always drink more

[Twistedarcher]

It was a really fun game -- I put a ton of hours into it, way more than I've put into any other game. Unfortunately the player base has significantly declined from its peak -- I wouldn't be surprised if the game only lasts a few more years at most. I'll still log on from time to time for a game of hearts -- it has a really good community for hearts.

[Hydrad]

It was a really fun game -- I put a ton of hours into it, way more than I've put into any other game. Unfortunately the player base has significantly declined from its peak -- I wouldn't be surprised if the game only lasts a few more years at most. I'll still log on from time to time for a game of hearts -- it has a really good community for hearts.

I would just play poker. Playing in small pools and slowly building up my money to enter the high roller area. One I got in I would instantly try to get lucky and go allin to get way more money. I lost a lot of money through poker...

[Twistedarcher]

Ah, everyone's get rich scheme I can't imagine how many people were bankrupted at the poker tables..

[Teproc]

Was the civility issue the newbie game? I think it was newbie mafia 7? Maybe 9.

Uh, NM7 is going on right now.  I think it was NMIII.

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Hey, I'm 17!

oo! oo! I'm 22! Am I doing this right?

Definitely, because that's the right age to be !

What I'm saying is I'm 22.

[A Drowned Kernel]

also, drunk mafia anuone?  I have finished a bottle of merlot and can always drink more

I'm in if this gets started.

[pacovf]

People should keep posting their age, so that I can mentally discriminate you between the people who are too young to be taken seriously, and the people who are too old to stay relevant.

I'm annoyed by people who are my age, though, could you please also post your birthday?

[Awaclus]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

I didn't know silverspawn was that young! And Awaclus is older. I can't remember if he's sudgy's age, or even older than that.

I'm 19 and I think silverspawn is slightly older than me.

[Joseph2302]

Was the civility issue the newbie game? I think it was newbie mafia 7? Maybe 9.

Uh, NM7 is going on right now.  I think it was NMIII.

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Hey, I'm 17!

oo! oo! I'm 22! Am I doing this right?

Definitely, because that's the right age to be !

What I'm saying is I'm 22.

+1 to both of you, I'm 22 as well

[Axxle]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

26, checking in. I think we win?

[Axxle]

One of the games I used to play, Puzzle Pirates, had the widest age range of any game I've played. I started playing it when I was about 14, and I was in a crew with a lot of people my age, but also people in their 20s, 30s, going all the way up to some people who had grandkids. I've managed to keep in touch with a few of them -- it was definitely interesting talking to people with that diverse of an age range, and in my opinion made it a better experience.

I loved puzzle pirates! My dreams used to be filled with that carpentry puzzle. It made me sad that they seem to delete your account if you don't play too often though.

[AndrewisFTTW]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

26, checking in. I think we win?

Duh.

[Dsell]

Was the civility issue the newbie game? I think it was newbie mafia 7? Maybe 9.

Uh, NM7 is going on right now.  I think it was NMIII.

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Hey, I'm 17!

oo! oo! I'm 22! Am I doing this right?

Definitely, because that's the right age to be !

What I'm saying is I'm 22.

+1 to both of you, I'm 22 as well

22 as well. We're taking over.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Ah, everyone's get rich scheme I can't imagine how many people were bankrupted at the poker tables..

We called them "providers".  Sometimes it was hard to watch: you knew they were regulars, you knew they had been grinding for a long time in the smaller games to build a bankroll, and you knew they were in over their head.  But it was their choice to move up in limits.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

... 26, checking in. I think we win?

I think it depends on how many victory points you have.

If you are talking about age, I have you by a factor, but I think you knew that from mafia.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I'm not sure what happened to that Acquire game, but I most surely contributed to the game stopping; I am just too slow for forum games, it seems.

I must respectfully and emphatically disagree.  I have played both mafia and Pandemic with you, and you are not slow, Professor.

Oh, wait, maybe you meant in the temporal sense.

[XerxesPraelor]

Cool, I'm 17 too. So mail-mi and archetype are the two other forumites who can't vote yet?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Does that make me the only 18-year-old?

cue another 18-year-old destroying my uniqueness.

[Witherweaver]

Weird, I don't really think of people on this forum in terms of ages.  I kind of just lump everyone in the same group of "peers".

[Ichimaru Gin]

Weird, I don't really think of people on this forum in terms of ages.  I kind of just lump everyone in the same group of "peers".

I know it's not much.
But please accept an imaginary +1 for your non-discrimination.

[sudgy]

Does that make me the only 18-year-old?

cue another 18-year-old destroying my uniqueness.

I turn 18 in a couple months...

[XerxesPraelor]

I do in exactly a month.

[Dsell]

I do in exactly a month.

Woah. Woah. You're 17? I had a mental image of you being mid-thirties or older. No clue why.

[Hugovj]

Cool, I'm 17 too. So mail-mi and archetype are the two other forumites who can't vote yet?

Well, I'm 17, and I can't vote. Stupid laws...

[Teproc]

Cool, I'm 17 too. So mail-mi and archetype are the two other forumites who can't vote yet?

Well, I'm 17, and I can't vote. Stupid laws...

I remember thinking when I was 15 (and there was a presidential election in France) that I would really like to be able to vote, but that  the fact that my classmates weren't allowed to was making me pretty happy with things overall.

I mean there's got to be a limit somewhere. 18 doesn't seem bad to me given how it interacts with school.

[jotheonah]

I've always thought there should be no threshold. If the kid can pull a lever, let 'em vote. Assuming kids too young to understand will vote randomly, then given a large enough sample they'll cancel each other out. Assuming they vote straight ticket without doing any independent research, well that makes them no different than their parents anyway. The only real downside I see is that the Mormon vote suddenly gets a lot more powerful...

[mail-mi]

HAHA I'm the youngest I'm 16 ha.

[Voltaire]

I've always thought there should be no threshold.

I read a compelling piece once advocating "vote from birth." Not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but it's not absurd on its face like it initially sounds.

[Teproc]

I've always thought there should be no threshold.

I read a compelling piece once advocating "vote from birth." Not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but it's not absurd on its face like it initially sounds.

Link ?

The problem with that idea is that it would be akin to giving parents extra votes. Now where the threshold is can be debatable, but I do believe there needs to be one.

[Voltaire]

I've always thought there should be no threshold.

I read a compelling piece once advocating "vote from birth." Not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but it's not absurd on its face like it initially sounds.

Link ?

The problem with that idea is that it would be akin to giving parents extra votes.

That's exactly what it is, up until a certain age (12 or something I think was his proposal). I'll PM you the link since this is getting pretty RSP.

[Awaclus]

I've always thought there should be no threshold.

I read a compelling piece once advocating "vote from birth." Not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but it's not absurd on its face like it initially sounds.

Link ?

The problem with that idea is that it would be akin to giving parents extra votes.

That's exactly what it is, up until a certain age (12 or something I think was his proposal). I'll PM you the link since this is getting pretty RSP.

Just post the link in RSP, I'm curious too and there could be others too.

[faust]

Is anyone interested in running this year's mafia game awards? Last year, the process started around this time. ash, do you have anything planned? I'm willing to support whoever's willing to run it.

[Archetype]

If ashersky isn't planning on doing it, I could.

[liopoil]

I'd definitely submit nominations, though I've only played three games in 2014.

[ashersky]

I plan on doing it again this year.

[Hydrad]

Oh cool. I looked at the old ones but they didn't mean anything to me as I hadn't played any of the games. I'm looking forward to seeing all the different things I can vote on.

[silverspawn]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

I didn't know silverspawn was that young! And Awaclus is older. I can't remember if he's sudgy's age, or even older than that.

I'm 19 and I think silverspawn is slightly older than me.

hey
1) how do you know
2) don't you think you should ask me before sharing something like that?

[silverspawn]

and I'm 20.

guessing age is kind of interesting; most people here are about the age I expected, but I definitely thought Arch and lio would be older.

[Awaclus]

So you're... 16? Wow, didn't see that coming. Welccome to the internet, be glad you don't have to put with 56K, livejournal, and AIM.

Yeah, mail-mi is too. I thought you had known that?

I knew about mail-mi. I think silverspawn and Awaclus are your age too? I think ash is the oldest, Robz and I are the same age (26), and I think WW and ADK are a little older. Sorry if everyone knows this already and I've just been out of the loop. Not sorry for invading everyone's privacy.

I didn't know silverspawn was that young! And Awaclus is older. I can't remember if he's sudgy's age, or even older than that.

I'm 19 and I think silverspawn is slightly older than me.

hey
1) how do you know
2) don't you think you should ask me before sharing something like that?

I think you told everyone in the Random Stuff thread when you were planning on creating a Facebook account.

[silverspawn]

Well, if I did that, it's fine. Don't really remember it... but it's possible.

[Joseph2302]

and I'm 20.

guessing age is kind of interesting; most people here are about the age I expected, but I definitely thought Arch and lio would be older.

That's interesting, because I assumed everyone was my age or older (like 21-25), turns out lots of people here are actually younger. I'm 22.

[Witherweaver]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

[Awaclus]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

NO, YOU DON'T!


EDIT:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg399683#msg399683 There it is. Had to browse through a few pages to find it, they were talking about math.

[pacovf]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

NO, YOU DON'T!

Witty.

[Archetype]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

My favorite is this one:

The two scummiest people claim to be masons. I smell a scum ploy.

[liopoil]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

My favorite is this one:

The two scummiest people claim to be masons. I smell a scum ploy.

Oh man, now you've got me regretting these posts again:

confirming roles isn't that helpful, man. At this point, this dice destructor is probably just a factional power or something.

Wow, this is very good. I personally had slight scumreads on both BA and WW (much more BA though), and now they are pretty much IC! Although in theory they could be scum partners, I don't see it. Even if they are, we might as well not lynch them today, because once one flips scum we have them both. But really, I am just assuming they are town now.

With chairs' flip and these two being town too, I am going to have to step back and reconsider everything.

[Witherweaver]

Good times, good times.

[Hydrad]

I'm really glad that was my first game. It was really fun and probably my best played game even though i was completely new... am I getting worse somehow?

[eHalcyon]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg399683#msg399683 There it is. Had to browse through a few pages to find it, they were talking about math.

What about our arguments about what constitutes "out of context"?

[Awaclus]

I want to see nominations for best overblown argument.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg399683#msg399683 There it is. Had to browse through a few pages to find it, they were talking about math.

What about our arguments about what constitutes "out of context"?

But see, that's hilarious.

[Witherweaver]

Kind of has to be in a Mafia thread.

[eHalcyon]

Kind of has to be in a Mafia thread.

Well, Awaclus linked something from the Random thread.

[silverspawn]

asd

[Ozle]

Yeah, CF is still one of my favorites on the forum.

Who do we have in the book of records now?

jotheonah
cayvie
Ozle
O

And of course people like Insomniac, ftl, pops, Axxle, TINAS, etc. but they still hang around the forums.

Still really upset about Ozle leaving. Did he ever say why?

I'm a little behind here, but are all these guys still gone?  No Joth?  No Frisk?

Joth is sometimes around. Frisk is totally gone. Ozle was here for a while... cayvie came back briefly, played her on goko a couple times I think. Haven't seen O.

Did I disappear?
Or did all of you....

Who can tell.....who can tell

Well I can, and I blame you lot, running away and all that.

[Awaclus]

Did I disappear?
Or did all of you....

It was just Wandering Winder.

[Ozle]

I may have been banned, knew I shouldn't have made that joke about the mole on theory's nose.....

[Eevee]

Oh god, it's back.

[AndrewisFTTW]

How was Tuva- oh right, the accident. We don't talk sbout that.

[Teproc]

I'm really glad that was my first game. It was really fun and probably my best played game even though i was completely new... am I getting worse somehow?

I still think the game I've played the best was my third one... so yeah, that can happen.

[Ozle]

I'm really glad that was my first game. It was really fun and probably my best played game even though i was completely new... am I getting worse somehow?

I still think the game I've played the best was my third one... so yeah, that can happen.

Hey enough of that, this thread is temporarily devoted to me now, or as an acceptable substitute.... How smelly Eevee is (he really does whiff, Robz told me after yet met he had to wash at least 4 times a day)

[Witherweaver]

I'm really glad that was my first game. It was really fun and probably my best played game even though i was completely new... am I getting worse somehow?

I still think the game I've played the best was my third one... so yeah, that can happen.

Hey enough of that, this thread is temporarily devoted to me now, or as an acceptable substitute.... How smelly Eevee is (he really does whiff, Robz told me after yet met he had to wash at least 4 times a day)

I believe he's smellier on Isotropic.

[IsotropicWasBetter]

Oh god, it's back.

Wait, I thought I was the Ozle-replacement f.ds troll? Unless of course I am Ozle.

[Ozle]

Oh god, it's back.

Wait, I thought I was the Ozle-replacement f.ds troll? Unless of course I am Ozle.

Hah, you can't replace Ozle with intending to be a replacement Ozle! That would require planning and thought, and we all know if your using planning and thought when you write things then you can't be Ozle!

[mcmcsalot]

I'm really glad that was my first game. It was really fun and probably my best played game even though i was completely new... am I getting worse somehow?

I still think the game I've played the best was my third one... so yeah, that can happen.

I won my first few mafia games in a row I was on track to have the best mafia record for 5 or 8 games. I think I have won like 2 since then...it definitely happens.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I'm really glad that was my first game. It was really fun and probably my best played game even though i was completely new... am I getting worse somehow?

I still think the game I've played the best was my third one... so yeah, that can happen.

I won my first few mafia games in a row I was on track to have the best mafia record for 5 or 8 games. I think I have won like 2 since then...it definitely happens.

I lost my first five games and then got an MVP, so I guess I'm kind of the opposite. I didn't realize I was on such a bad losing streak until I made a spreadsheet with all my game information on it 

[ashersky]

Mafia Awards 2014: The Categories discussion thread: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12156

[ashersky]

Nominations for 2014 awards are now open: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12165.0

[2.71828.....]

How many people are around?  I would be totally down for some drunk mafia as I have finished apartment shopping for the day and am in my hotel the rest of the night.  And a new bottle of Jack Daniel's

[reinoe]

WWWWWEEEEEEEEE I'm dead and loving it!

The things that players accept in their mafia games on this forum are completely alien.

[pacovf]

You probably shouldn't discuss ongoing games in public.

There is a speccy for that game if you want to talk about it.

[Awaclus]

You probably shouldn't discuss ongoing games in public.

With a probability of approximately 1.

[sudgy]

You probably shouldn't discuss ongoing games in public.

With a probability of approximately 1.

Because it is in the rules.

[eHalcyon]

I'm interested in trying some new games on Boite a Jeux.  Particularly, I am interested in:

Deus
Vanuatu
Dungeon Petz
Trajan
Tzolk'in
Ginkgopolis
Myrmes
Town Center

That list is in approximate order of most to least interest.  Deus is just a recent release that looks really neat.  Vanuatu I'm only interested in because it's a Free Shipping game on Board Game Bliss that looks OK.  The next 3 are games that have been relatively high on my radar but I've never gone for, for various reasons (Dungeon Petz is maybe too heavy for my group; Trajan too low on theme; Tzolk'in has that whole broken strategy thing).  The others are more on the periphery of my radar, but still interesting.

For Tzolk'in specifically, I'd ask that any players not look up the broken strategy.  I know of its existence but no more than that.

But yeah, anybody want to try Deus?

[Lugia]

Okay, since I just joined and am not very familiar with the board layout, this might be the wrong place to ask, and I apologise. I was just wondering where you go to join a mafia game. Thank you!

[Jimmmmm]

This thread shows all the upcoming Mafia games. To join a game, go to the signup thread for that game.

[Jimmmmm]

Have you played forum Mafia before? If not, check with scott_pilgrim to see if RMM21 will be Newbie-friendly.

[Joseph2302]

Have you played forum Mafia before? If not, check with scott_pilgrim to see if RMM21 will be Newbie-friendly.

I think RMM21 filled its last space about 3 hours ago.

[Jimmmmm]

Have you played forum Mafia before? If not, check with scott_pilgrim to see if RMM21 will be Newbie-friendly.

I think RMM21 filled its last space about 3 hours ago.

Ah well there you go. I'm not sure if and when the Blitz game is happening. I'm sure another game will open up soon.

[Joseph2302]

Also, you need to read & sign the Civility Pledge before you play

[ashersky]

We may get a newbie or simple game going soon to accommodate new players.  We have vets who prefer simple, too.

It is safe to assume the next few RMM games are not newbie-friendly.

[Joseph2302]

Okay, since I just joined and am not very familiar with the board layout, this might be the wrong place to ask, and I apologise. I was just wondering where you go to join a mafia game. Thank you!

Game looking for signups here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12396.0

[2.71828.....]

So.....Dune 2.....more people need to sign up.

[ashersky]

So.....Dune 2.....more people need to sign up.

Three more, to be exact.

[chairs]

Not anymore!

[XerxesPraelor]

While VLA, I played ~6 games of IRL Mafia and won all of them. It's surprising how much this carries over to real life Mafia, which seems much more stuck in RVS.

[chairs]

RL mafia does have people's facial expressions, though.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't think I could play mafia IRL. I'd just start laughing uncontrollably if I was scum.

[jotheonah]

I'm gonna be at PAXeast today and tomorrow. Anybody else? Is there a right place on the forum for this discussion?

[AndrewisFTTW]

I'm gonna be at PAXeast today and tomorrow. Anybody else? Is there a right place on the forum for this discussion?

I have a friend there but he wont respond to my voicemails or facebook messages. We used to be good friends, now he doesn't acknowledge me. I don't get it, we both play drums, we both like video games, am I ugly? Am I annoying? I'm so lonely. Is there a right place on the forum for this discussion?

[Archetype]

I have a friend there but he wont respond to my voicemails or facebook messages. We used to be good friends, now he doesn't acknowledge me. I don't get it, we both play drums, we both like video games, am I ugly? Am I annoying? I'm so lonely. Is there a right place on the forum for this discussion?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11553.0

[pacovf]

Well, I was gonna say that we've been known to discuss relationship problems in the Random Stuff Thread, but now that Archetype ninja'd me it's not funny anymore.

But um it's still true?

[Ozle]

I'm gonna be at PAXeast today and tomorrow. Anybody else? Is there a right place on the forum for this discussion?

I have a friend there but he wont respond to my voicemails or facebook messages. We used to be good friends, now he doesn't acknowledge me. I don't get it, we both play drums, we both like video games, am I ugly? Am I annoying? I'm so lonely. Is there a right place on the forum for this discussion?

Yep, im afraid its both ugly and annoying. He messaged me about it the other day, its also your inability to trim nasal hair that gets him the most

[faust]

Guys, join up for Diplomacy! It's going to be so much fun!

[UmbrageOfSnow]

It is night or I'm dead in all ongoing games.

Apparently I have an addiction to posting.

So I said this thing.

...

um, topic...

Oh, so I've got a friend who likes face-to-face mafia but hasn't played forum mafia.  I was thinking I'd try to get him into it on here.  He's even worse at Dominion than I am, but at least enjoys it.

Anyone planning a game that would be good for introducing someone to the concept of forum mafia anytime soon?  I feel like Greater Idea might be a little too weird.  Plus, I kind of want to play so I can call him scum constantly.

[gkrieg13]

I think any game would be good as long as he has someone that will answer his questions. It's hard when you have a lot of questions.

[sudgy]

I personally like simpler setups for newbies (to forum mafia), but if he's willing to play a more complicated setup, I say let him.

In other news, speaking of face-to-face mafia, I was running a few games of it (six players) recently.  We were doing night starts to make it get to an odd numbers of players during the day.  Most of them hadn't played before, so I just did a simple setup with one mafia, one doctor, and one cop (I don't think doc-cop is as broken in smaller setups, especially when most people haven't played).

So, one game, the mafia (one of the people who has played before) killed the other person who has played (he was a VT), and upon day start he instantly claims doctor.  Another Vanilla Townie (yes, it's true) claimed doc as well, saying the other was the mafia.  After a bit of arguing, the VT said he just claimed doc because I had said before the game that it's a bad idea.  The real doc claimed, but everybody agreed that the VT was the scummiest and they lynched him.  (During the day, the cop claimed as well for no apparent reason.)  That night the mafia and the doc both targeted the cop.  The cop targeted the mafia.  The mafia said he protected the cop, but then the cop said that the mafia was the mafia.  The mafia said that the cop must be scum.  I caught his logic flaw instantly, but nobody else did for a while.  After probably 10 minutes of discussion, finally the doctor realized it all and they instantly caught the mafia.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Follow the cop is still broken, even if the players can't figure it out.

Which I guess doesn't mean it's a problem in your case.

I don't know, macho cop is such an easy fix.  But that is a hilarious story.

But I was actually having a conversation like this with the friend I was talking about, how some towns are so new that they need a lot of power just to have a chance over that sort of "I claimed cop because someone said that was a terrible idea" logic, and then after a while some face-to-face groups get too good at reading expressions and can half solve the game from tone and shifty eyes and need a lot less power than would be fair online.

But my favorite thing about online is that so much more complication is possible in terms of PR resolution.

Anyway, I guess I'll bring up Greater Idea to him.

[Voltaire]

Lots of people play "no flip" in person, and that makes follow-the-cop less broken I do believe.

[Teproc]

I like the way Werewolves of Miller's Hollow does it, which is that instead of a Doctor, you have a Witch, which is a One-Shot Doctor One-Shot Vig, but the Cop (Seer) is a full Cop+Rolecop.

And yes, playing with no flip works well IRL, but only with a very talkative group that knows each other pretty well.

[sudgy]

Lots of people play "no flip" in person, and that makes follow-the-cop less broken I do believe.

Yeah, I probably should have mentioned, we did no flips.  That's how I play in person.

[mail-mi]

I like the way Werewolves of Miller's Hollow does it, which is that instead of a Doctor, you have a Witch, which is a One-Shot Doctor One-Shot Vig, but the Cop (Seer) is a full Cop+Rolecop.

And yes, playing with no flip works well IRL, but only with a very talkative group that knows each other pretty well.

I LOVE THAT GAME.

I HAVE ALL THREE EXPANSIONS. IT IS AMAZING.

[Archetype]

So, one game, the mafia (one of the people who has played before) killed the other person who has played (he was a VT), and upon day start he instantly claims doctor.  Another Vanilla Townie (yes, it's true) claimed doc as well, saying the other was the mafia.  After a bit of arguing, the VT said he just claimed doc because I had said before the game that it's a bad idea.  The real doc claimed, but everybody agreed that the VT was the scummiest and they lynched him.  (During the day, the cop claimed as well for no apparent reason.)  That night the mafia and the doc both targeted the cop.  The cop targeted the mafia.  The mafia said he protected the cop, but then the cop said that the mafia was the mafia.  The mafia said that the cop must be scum.  I caught his logic flaw instantly, but nobody else did for a while.  After probably 10 minutes of discussion, finally the doctor realized it all and they instantly caught the mafia.

I played a couple of IRL games awhile ago with some friends using the JK9 setup (1 JK, 1 Tracker, 2 Mafia, 5 VTs) and had a similar situation happen. I was the Tracker and I was about to be lynched on D2 when I claimed. Someone else counter claimed me. I tols them I could prove it since I Tracked the JK the night before. I outted them and they admitted to being the JK. But people didn't believe me and lynched me. The JK then targeted that player to block him, but ended up saving him because he was Town and was shot by the Mafia! Anyway, I asked the counterclaimer why the heck he would do that and he told me he didn't want the real Tracker to have to out himself. Which would be a decent gambit if I hadn't already proved that I wasn't lying (or just a really good guesser) when I outted the JK.

Weirdly enough, Town ended up winning. Mafia still thought I was lying about who the JK was so they never killed her. Crazy game.

[Teproc]

I like the way Werewolves of Miller's Hollow does it, which is that instead of a Doctor, you have a Witch, which is a One-Shot Doctor One-Shot Vig, but the Cop (Seer) is a full Cop+Rolecop.

And yes, playing with no flip works well IRL, but only with a very talkative group that knows each other pretty well.

I LOVE THAT GAME.

I HAVE ALL THREE EXPANSIONS. IT IS AMAZING.

There are three ? Huh, I have one. Don't get to play it much though, since you need to 8-9 minimum, optimal around 12-13.

[mail-mi]

I like the way Werewolves of Miller's Hollow does it, which is that instead of a Doctor, you have a Witch, which is a One-Shot Doctor One-Shot Vig, but the Cop (Seer) is a full Cop+Rolecop.

And yes, playing with no flip works well IRL, but only with a very talkative group that knows each other pretty well.

I LOVE THAT GAME.

I HAVE ALL THREE EXPANSIONS. IT IS AMAZING.

There are three ? Huh, I have one. Don't get to play it much though, since you need to 8-9 minimum, optimal around 12-13.

Yeah, and the roles are all *crazy*.

[QuickSync]

VT is my favorite role. <- not kidding

[Archetype]

Has anyone else here seen Wayward Pines? It just got over and would make the perfect theme for a Mafia game.

[gkrieg13]

Has anyone else here seen Wayward Pines? It just got over and would make the perfect theme for a Mafia game.

I was gonna watch that but it was too scary do my wife.

[Witherweaver]

Has anyone else here seen Wayward Pines? It just got over and would make the perfect theme for a Mafia game.

I was gonna watch that but it was too scary do my wife.

Why do you want to do her while you're watching the show?

[gkrieg13]

Has anyone else here seen Wayward Pines? It just got over and would make the perfect theme for a Mafia game.

I was gonna watch that but it was too scary do my wife.

Why do you want to do her while you're watching the show?

Haha for

[popsofctown]

I think it'd be a little ridiculous for this topic to have 2,000 replies.

You guys use your 10 more replies wisely.

[skip wooznum]

I am a wasteful person

[Ichimaru Gin]

I am a wasteful person.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I am a wasteful person.

[gkrieg13]

I am a wasteful person.

[liopoil]

I am NOT a wasteful person.  popsofctown is a skillful dominion player.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I am a wasteful person.

[skip wooznum]

I am a wasteful person.

[mail-mi]

I am a wasteful person.

[Twistedarcher]

I am a wasteful person.

[Awaclus]

I am a wasteful person.

[ashersky]

I ate a wasteful person.

[Witherweaver]

I am a wasteful person.

[Jimmmmm]

I am a wasteful person. 

[skip wooznum]

I am a wasteful person.

[Awaclus]

I am a wasteful person.

« Last Edit: 1958-07-16, 11:52:31 by popsofctown »

[liopoil]

You can't actually lock the thread? Wow.

[Voltaire]

It's not in Game Threads.

[skip wooznum]

I missed it. What did awaclus say?

[skip wooznum]

Wait, does that say it was edited in 1958?!

[liopoil]

I missed it. What did awaclus say?

You clearly did miss what he said, because it actually was never edited. If you quote awaclus' post, he put in formatting to make it look edited (in 1958)

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I am a wasteful person.

« Last Edit: 3015-06-30, 11:13:45 by popsofctown »

[Jimmmmm]

I am a wasteful person.

[ashersky]

Fairly certain I can lock it.

[ashersky]

Yep.  I can.

[liopoil]

And we all appreciate your self-restraint.

[eHalcyon]

What's happening here? 

[Ichimaru Gin]

What's happening here? 

Whoa. I didn't see that all the other earlier posts got edited too.
Basically, pops mentioned spending the remaining posts before 2000 wisely and so everyone started making useless posts on purpose--which are now all gone 

[Ghacob]

It is 11:43pm. I should probably go to sleep soon.

[popsofctown]

I can lock the topic, but actually locking it wouldn't be nearly as fun.

[Witherweaver]

Not in any games currently.  Now I don't have an excuse to not talk to people when I'm out in public

[Twistedarcher]

I hit 100 days logged in...not sure if I should be happy or sad.

[QuickSync]

@UmbrageofSorrow, How'd you find my wiki on MS?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Oh hey, QS!

It was your avatar that gave it away.  I skim some threads at MS on occasion, did a bunch of it recently because of 1) trying to prepare for and balance Paris Mafia and 2) trying to think about balance in regards to the probably-someday Charge Me Up setup.  When you signed on here, I recognized your avatar.  It seemed pretty specific, so I wandered aimlessly around threads on Mafiascum for a while looking for a samurai that smelled of sunflowers until I saw the avatar again.  Then I read a bunch of your posts and compared posting styles.  The V/LA clinched the deal, but I would have guessed anyway.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

And now that you all know I'm a creepy stalker, I was thinking maybe I'd have better luck asking in here than in the thread designated for it:

I like mafia-folk better than normal people.  Anyone want to play Dominion?  I'm terrible and want to try playing non-randoms to get better.  And I've got a bunch of free time this afternoon.

[gkrieg13]

I could play if you want a few games.  I will be in outpost.  I don't have any of the sets though...

[popsofctown]

And now that you all know I'm a creepy stalker, I was thinking maybe I'd have better luck asking in here than in the thread designated for it:

I like mafia-folk better than normal people.  Anyone want to play Dominion?  I'm terrible and want to try playing non-randoms to get better.  And I've got a bunch of free time this afternoon.

FULL CIRCLE

[UmbrageOfSnow]

f.ds is a flat circle

[Axxle]

Oh hey, QS!

It was your avatar that gave it away.  I skim some threads at MS on occasion, did a bunch of it recently because of 1) trying to prepare for and balance Paris Mafia and 2) trying to think about balance in regards to the probably-someday Charge Me Up setup.  When you signed on here, I recognized your avatar.  It seemed pretty specific, so I wandered aimlessly around threads on Mafiascum for a while looking for a samurai that smelled of sunflowers until I saw the avatar again.  Then I read a bunch of your posts and compared posting styles.  The V/LA clinched the deal, but I would have guessed anyway.

Yeah, please refrain from doxing in the future (or at least something close to it)

[QuickSync]

Oh hey, QS!

It was your avatar that gave it away.  I skim some threads at MS on occasion, did a bunch of it recently because of 1) trying to prepare for and balance Paris Mafia and 2) trying to think about balance in regards to the probably-someday Charge Me Up setup.  When you signed on here, I recognized your avatar.  It seemed pretty specific, so I wandered aimlessly around threads on Mafiascum for a while looking for a samurai that smelled of sunflowers until I saw the avatar again.  Then I read a bunch of your posts and compared posting styles.  The V/LA clinched the deal, but I would have guessed anyway.

Yeah, please refrain from doxing in the future (or at least something close to it)

Oh, stop. It would be one thing if I never wanted people to look me up, but I don't care that much. I could very well stop using the name quick and have different avatars on each site I play at. Its not a big deal to me. If you looked at my wiki you would see I have my record across all sites. I wouldn't do that for no reason. Really, its not that big of a deal to me.

[pacovf]

While that might be the case for you, Axxle's point stands: it's better not to divulge this sort of information without the consent of the target person.

[QuickSync]

While that might be the case for you, Axxle's point stands: it's better not to divulge this sort of information without the consent of the target person.

Well, when you say it like that its pretty hard to argue against it.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

It wasn't very hard, I didn't hack anything, I don't know any personal information about him, nor do I want it or try to get it.

He said he played on Mafiascum, I figured out which Mafiascum account was his by matching the avatar.

That's far from doxing.

Anyway, sorry.  But it doesn't seem much different than guessing what alternate account someone played under.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Would it be off limits to google someone's username and see if they have other publicly available Mafia games?  I wouldn't think it should be.

[pacovf]

It's the divulging that's dicey, not the finding out itself. I mean, if somebody posted here all the forums where there's a "pacovf" registered, I would be bothered by it. I know it's trivial to find out when you know what you are looking for, and I don't think any of those are things that I wouldn't want shared in here. It's the fact that I didn't get a choice in the matter that is a problem, and that now that information is way more public than what I intended, because people don't have to go actively looking for it anymore.

I mean, in this case, it was ok-ish, and QS has already said that s/he doesn't care, so no harm done. But you should know that you were stepping on a line that you should avoid crossing.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Again, I'm sorry and won't do it again.

It's possible to believe you did nothing wrong while still not wanting to do it again so as not to bother good people you would like to not be bothered by things.

So any further arguing from me should be taken with this in mind.

Anyway, my point is that it's trivial to google a username.  If you have two accounts on a site, it's generally accepted that people can try to figure out which accounts match, although obviously they are under no obligation to help.  I believe that if no illegal or morally questionable means are used, it's fine to figure out when two accounts on different sites are probably the same person.

And I don't believe that we should be prohibited from typing publicly available information into Mafia games.  Especially when it is game relevant, and not personally identifiable.

I don't think I should be prohibited from talking about another game you played under the name pacovf any more than I am prohibited from talking about another game you played here.  I will avoid doing so for the sake of not offending you, but I don't believe that should be a rule, and I don't believe such a rule makes any sense given the other rules in place regarding meta.

[pacovf]

Well, QS had a different (albeit similar?) username. That's where, personally, I would draw the line in the sand; as in, I would ask for permission before sharing.

I know it's arbitrary, but you have to set limits somewhere, and the further you set them, the murkier it gets. So better safe than sorry, IMHO.

For the record, I don't think you did anything wrong per se, considering the context, it's just that the subject of internet identity is tricky, and you have to be careful.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

See, my personal line is anything that ties you to a "real" person.

As in, your actual name, or information about you (or me) I think is wrong to divulge.  The other line is privileged information.  For example, Mail-mi has my real name and non-junk email.  That isn't publicly linked to this account, and I'd like to keep it that way.  I might have once told someone on here about personal issues I've had in the past, that I would have a problem with.

If someone looks at my boardgamegeek account and comments on something there, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  Likewise if someone figures out what name I use on some other forum.

But yeah, it is murky, and I'd rather not upset people.  I honestly didn't think much about it, other than "I'm being clever with my good memory."

But I really think there is something more special about that line between the "real" person and the internet persona.  And that's my line, philosophically speaking.

[pacovf]

Again, the issue is not figuring it out, it's then publicizing that knowledge without express consent.

I agree that any information that ties you to your real persona is strongly off-bounds. But if someone wants to have multiple internet personas, then you should also respect that, because there might be a reason for it. Maybe he uploads weird german porn with that other username, or is in an online support group, or it's an older username that is strongly tied to his facebook account... who knows.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

How do you know about my weird German porn account?!? 

(  is actually a sexy face in weird German porn)

Anyway, okay, I get that in theory.  And that makes sense I guess.  But tying one mafia-playing account to another still seems pretty minor.

And I think the means are important.  Like I really do think it's a moral problem if the connection was made unethically or with non-public information, by guessing someone's password or spying on them or abusing mod powers on two different sites to compare IPs or something.  But when other people could easily make the same connection, I think that's a different story.

[Awaclus]

I think it should be common sense to assume that everyone will read everything you've ever written on the Internet and be able to connect your posts to the IRL you, unless you purposefully take measures to stay anonymous.

[Teproc]

I think it should be common sense to assume that everyone will read everything you've ever written on the Internet and be able to connect your posts to the IRL you, unless you purposefully take measures to stay anonymous.

This has been my approach to the Internet for years now. I always assume anything I say can be connected to me IRL, because it really can, very easily (well, I also do use the same username everywhere and generally the same avatar, except for here because Dominion).

[pacovf]

Analogy: you leave a set of house keys under your rug. You know it's not a very smart thing to do, but the convenience outweighs the risks, so you do it anyway. Someone comes to your house, takes the key from under the rug, and leaves the front door wide open. Even if they don't take anything from your house, even if you know that anyone could have gotten in your house if they really wanted to, that's still wrong.

[Teproc]

Analogy: you leave a set of house keys under your rug. You know it's not a very smart thing to do, but the convenience outweighs the risks, so you do it anyway. Someone comes to your house, takes the key from under the rug, and leaves the front door wide open. Even if they don't take anything from your house, even if you know that anyone could have gotten in your house if they really wanted to, that's still wrong.

One of those things is illegal, the other one is not.

Let's take another analogy : Mr. X is a politician. You search around the Internet, and you find a blog post he wrote a few years ago where he says nazism was pretty cool (or something less bad, but whatever, something bad).

You might say : "but Mr.X is a public person". My argument is that we all are as soon as we log onto the Internet.

[Seprix]

when it comes to public internet information, a lot of people are dumb. With the most basic of searches I could conceivably find people's other accounts (and sometimes personal information!!!), and I've ran tests on myself and others before. It's quite scary, actually. Just be careful what you put out there. There's this site called pipl and it's nice to put your own email and username into there, so you can see how exposed you could be and fix it if you're paranoid about that.It's not 100% accurate or anything, it just gets the obvious stuff.

I have found that younger version me was way more stupid about Internet security and privacy, and was most of my 'leaks' before I fixed it long ago.

[Awaclus]

Analogy: you leave a set of house keys under your rug. You know it's not a very smart thing to do, but the convenience outweighs the risks, so you do it anyway. Someone comes to your house, takes the key from under the rug, and leaves the front door wide open. Even if they don't take anything from your house, even if you know that anyone could have gotten in your house if they really wanted to, that's still wrong.

Shouldn't you be completely fine with that happening to you, since you knew it was a possibility and you still thought that the convenience outweighed the risks?

Seriously, don't leave the keys under the rug and don't post stuff on the Internet that you wouldn't say IRL unless you know how to do it securely. It's for your own good.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

You enter your email?  Just the one?  You guys don't have like 6?

I've got:
1. Spam email for signing up to things
2. Old Spam email that is really full of spam, so I don't use much other than to sign up for really spammy things
3. Email for forums/sites I vaguely care about but don't want to see all the crap from most of the time
4. Email for friends/family
5. Email for work
6. Email for forums/sites I care about but don't want linked to the other email for forums for whatever reason.

And when I can get away with it, I use 10minutemail to sign up for things.

[Teproc]

Analogy: you leave a set of house keys under your rug. You know it's not a very smart thing to do, but the convenience outweighs the risks, so you do it anyway. Someone comes to your house, takes the key from under the rug, and leaves the front door wide open. Even if they don't take anything from your house, even if you know that anyone could have gotten in your house if they really wanted to, that's still wrong.

Shouldn't you be completely fine with that happening to you, since you knew it was a possibility and you still thought that the convenience outweighed the risks?

Seriously, don't leave the keys under the rug and don't post stuff on the Internet that you wouldn't say IRL unless you know how to do it securely. It's for your own good.

Well I believe pacovf's argument is that it would still be wrong for that person to do it. Yes, you make it easy for them, but that doesn't justify the act. "Blaming the victim" is the appropriate phrase here, and I'm sure you know that logic has been fallaciously used many times in pretty digusting ways.

[Witherweaver]

Clearly his avatar was asking for it.

[Awaclus]

You enter your email?  Just the one?  You guys don't have like 6?

I have a bunch of emails that I use for the purpose of staying anonymous, pretending to be multiple people, etc. and some that I used to have for the purpose of pretending to be 18 before I actually was 18, but I only have one email that's actually supposed to look like it's me.

Well I believe pacovf's argument is that it would still be wrong for that person to do it. Yes, you make it easy for them, but that doesn't justify the act. "Blaming the victim" is the appropriate phrase here, and I'm sure you know that logic has been fallaciously used many times in pretty digusting ways.

I don't think it's wrong, I think it's to be expected. It sounds like you're trying to make an analogy about the cases where rape victims have been blamed because they wore revealing clothing, but a better analogy would be a case where you wear revealing clothing and complain when other people are looking at you.

I have found that younger version me was way more stupid about Internet security and privacy, and was most of my 'leaks' before I fixed it long ago.

I have also found a similar thing about my younger self. What a coincidence!

By the way, this is why I firmly believe that people under the age of 18 shouldn't be allowed to use a device with an Internet connection without parental supervision.

[popsofctown]

pacovf has a neopets account.  It has 999 hours logged.  All his neopets are named "Jessica".  I guess that must be his ex.

[QuickSync]

Clearly his avatar was asking for it.

Yeah, and this is exactly why I don't care much if people know me as a mafia player across sites. *shrug*

[chairs]

pacovf has a neopets account.  It has 999 hours logged.  All his neopets are named "Jessica".  I guess that must be his ex.

OOO DO ME NEXT.

[chairs]

To be fair, I'm even more of an open book, because LITERALLY MY SIG.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Chairs rubs himself down with varnish every Tuesday, then hosts a nude webcam show under a different name.

[chairs]

Chairs rubs himself down with varnish every Tuesday, then hosts a nude webcam show under a different name.

That's Thursday get it right.

[ashersky]

To be fair, I'm even more of an open book, because LITERALLY MY SIG.

You look absolutely nothing like I imagined.

[chairs]

To be fair, I'm even more of an open book, because LITERALLY MY SIG.

You look absolutely nothing like I imagined.

Do we have a police sketch artist in the house so ashersky can describe what the expected chairs looked like?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Because I had a lot of fun playing with Gkrieg last time, anyone want to play a couple games of Dominion today?  I'll be free for the next 5 hours or so (although not logged on unless someone says something, because I'm doing other things rather than playing random people.)

[pacovf]

If you are ok with base only, we could play some games in half an hour or so. Been forever since my last game.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Sure.

I actually have Seaside and Intrigue (and Stash), so I can host if you like.  Or do you prefer Base only?

[pacovf]

Definitely better with seaside and intrigue!

[pacovf]

Ok, I am logged on now. My name is pacovf over there too.

[popsofctown]

I was reading the banlist on mafiascum because I was bored.  Saw some dude got banned from mafiascum for bad mafia behavior on a non-mafiascum site.

Clicked the link and it lead here o_0

[pacovf]

Reinoe

[faust]

I am in no game, and the only one I could sign up for is my own. What is going on?

[Ghacob]

I am in no game, and the only one I could sign up for is my own. What is going on?

Guess it's time to start my game!

[QuickSync]

OK guys, what do you think? Should I play one more game at this site or move on?

[Witherweaver]

OK guys, what do you think? Should I play one more game at this site or move on?

I think you should keep playing.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I don't see why you wouldn't play one more game QS.

If your real life stuff is too much at the moment, maybe hold off and play a third game a bit later but I certainly don't have any problem with you.

[QuickSync]

I don't see why you wouldn't play one more game QS.

If your real life stuff is too much at the moment, maybe hold off and play a third game a bit later but I certainly don't have any problem with you.

Believe me, I plan to. I want to hit every site where mafia is played regularly. That is the plan and that's why I will have to move on from this site eventually.

OK guys, what do you think? Should I play one more game at this site or move on?

I think you should keep playing.

OK, I will play one more game here and hope I draw a scum role.

[2.71828.....]

It might take more than one game to draw scum. My first scum game was like my 5th game or something.

[pacovf]

I'd definitely like to hear your thoughts on how Mafia is played here before you move on.

[Witherweaver]

It might take more than one game to draw scum. My first scum game was like my 5th game or something.

Ha.. ha .. ha.

[QuickSync]

I'd definitely like to hear your thoughts on how Mafia is played here before you move on.

I promise to give all the good bad and ugly.

[pacovf]

Great!

[gkrieg13]

People should sign up for ashs game. It'll be fun.

[faust]

I want to be scum again so I get to live past N1.

[Twistedarcher]

zzz nighttime

[Teproc]

Man, I've only been away for like a month and a half, but I missed this. This is fun. Glad that there's still so much new blood coming in too.

I want to be scum again so I get to live past N1.

I know the feeling. Think of it as mafia's auto-regulation system against too-towny metas. I've tried making my meta-scummier, it's an interesting balance to strike.

[faust]

Will there be mafia game awards soon? It's that time of the year again...

[ashersky]

Will there be mafia game awards soon? It's that time of the year again...

I believe so.

[yuma]

Will there be mafia game awards soon? It's that time of the year again...

I believe so.

Do you need any help?

[Witherweaver]

I nominate Ashersky for best Forum Mafia Organizer/Caretaker.

[ashersky]

Mafia Awards Nomination thread: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=14364.0

[EgorK]

Oh my. I slept 18 hours after this crazy week end

[Roadrunner7671]

How can we talk here when it's night? Isn't that referencing current games?

[Teproc]

How can we talk here when it's night? Isn't that referencing current games?

This is basically a "random stuff" for mafia players only. Because sometimes people get bored when it's night and they don't have mafia to occupy themselves (or if they get killed early and have to wait for a new game to start).

Obviously you're not supposed to talk about current games.

[Roadrunner7671]

How can we talk here when it's night? Isn't that referencing current games?

This is basically a "random stuff" for mafia players only. Because sometimes people get bored when it's night and they don't have mafia to occupy themselves (or if they get killed early and have to wait for a new game to start).

Obviously you're not supposed to talk about current games.

I see.

[Eevee]

on account of christmas, a lot of new board games in my household for tonight's game session. We are probably trying some combination of codenames, port royal and cosmic encounter (all first times). I understand cosmic encounter is a favorite for many people here?

[Roadrunner7671]

on account of christmas, a lot of new board games in my household for tonight's game session. We are probably trying some combination of codenames, port royal and cosmic encounter (all first times). I understand cosmic encounter is a favorite for many people here?

My personal favorite is Dominion.

[gkrieg13]

on account of christmas, a lot of new board games in my household for tonight's game session. We are probably trying some combination of codenames, port royal and cosmic encounter (all first times). I understand cosmic encounter is a favorite for many people here?

Codenames has been a big hit with the people I've played it with.  Probably explains why I can't seem to find it anywhere anymore.

[yuma]

on account of christmas, a lot of new board games in my household for tonight's game session. We are probably trying some combination of codenames, port royal and cosmic encounter (all first times). I understand cosmic encounter is a favorite for many people here?

Codenames has been a big hit with the people I've played it with.  Probably explains why I can't seem to find it anywhere anymore.

Game Night Games in SLC had it a few weeks back.

[Eevee]

on account of christmas, a lot of new board games in my household for tonight's game session. We are probably trying some combination of codenames, port royal and cosmic encounter (all first times). I understand cosmic encounter is a favorite for many people here?

Codenames has been a big hit with the people I've played it with.  Probably explains why I can't seem to find it anywhere anymore.

We ended up trying codenames first and liking it so much we never got to any other games. None of us being native english speakers definitely made us play very bad, often hilariously so.

[gkrieg13]

on account of christmas, a lot of new board games in my household for tonight's game session. We are probably trying some combination of codenames, port royal and cosmic encounter (all first times). I understand cosmic encounter is a favorite for many people here?

Codenames has been a big hit with the people I've played it with.  Probably explains why I can't seem to find it anywhere anymore.

Game Night Games in SLC had it a few weeks back.

I asked them this week and they said they were all out

[ashersky]

For funsies:

10 longest games by raw number of pages (25 posts per page):

M31 - 190
RMM16 - 188
M6 - 169
M11 - 164
M4 - 139
M19 - 125
M50 - 120
M16 - 117
RMM25 - 107
M22 - 106

10 longest games by number of pages per player (25 posts per page):

RMM16 - 13.42857143
M4 - 9.266666667
M50 - 9.230769231
M31 - 9.047619048
M6 - 8.894736842
M16 - 8.357142857
M19 - 8.333333333
M51 - 8.181818182
RMM25 - 7.133333333
RMM3    - 7.066666667

[2.71828.....]

Bah. All the cool people do 50 posts per page

[Teproc]

Bah. All the cool people do 50 posts per page

QFT.

[silverspawn]

Bah. All the cool people do 50 posts per page

QFT.

qft?

[Teproc]

Bah. All the cool people do 50 posts per page

QFT.

qft?

Quoted For Truth.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

[2.71828.....]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Yes

[Roadrunner7671]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Alas, I cannot legally play Drunk Mafia.

[Teproc]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Alas, I cannot legally play Drunk Mafia.

I think you can. Nothing stops you from drinking in the privacy of your own home regardless of age right ?

Presumably your parents will stop you, but I don't think there's anything illegal about it.

[Roadrunner7671]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Alas, I cannot legally play Drunk Mafia.

I think you can. Nothing stops you from drinking in the privacy of your own home regardless of age right ?

Presumably your parents will stop you, but I don't think there's anything illegal about it.

The only thing that stops me is the law. I don't know about France, but here in the USA, people under 21 are just out of luck.

[2.71828.....]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Alas, I cannot legally play Drunk Mafia.

I think you can. Nothing stops you from drinking in the privacy of your own home regardless of age right ?

Presumably your parents will stop you, but I don't think there's anything illegal about it.

The only thing that stops me is the law. I don't know about France, but here in the USA, people under 21 are just out of luck.

Teproc is actually correct.  You are allowed to consume alcohol under the age of 21 in your own house under supervision of parents/guardians (in most states).  I did a quick google search and found this website.  No clue how legit it actually is, but it cites sources.

[Roadrunner7671]

Well, this changes things...

Is the mod in drunk Mafia drunk?

[Witherweaver]

But you can drink mouthwash.  Let us know how it goes.

[Roadrunner7671]

But you can drink mouthwash.  Let us know how it goes.

Seems legit. How about rubbing alcohol?

[A Drowned Kernel]

You also don't have to be drunk to play drunk mafia, it's basically just super-blitz with people who are blitzed.

e is one so far, if at least three people say they're in in the next, let's say two hours, I'll run this.

[Roadrunner7671]

You also don't have to be drunk to play drunk mafia, it's basically just super-blitz with people who are blitzed.

e is one so far, if at least three people say they're in in the next, let's say two hours, I'll run this.

Then I'm super in! Blitz mafia is the best mafia!

[ashersky]

All, the 2015 Mafia Award winners have been announced here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=14522.0!

Congratulations to all winners and nominees.  Post there to congratulate them yourself!

[Joseph2302]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Alas, I cannot legally play Drunk Mafia.

I think you can. Nothing stops you from drinking in the privacy of your own home regardless of age right ?

Presumably your parents will stop you, but I don't think there's anything illegal about it.

The only thing that stops me is the law. I don't know about France, but here in the USA, people under 21 are just out of luck.

Teproc is actually correct.  You are allowed to consume alcohol under the age of 21 in your own house under supervision of parents/guardians (in most states).  I did a quick google search and found this website.  No clue how legit it actually is, but it cites sources.

I know in the UK the drinking age is 18, but in your own home it's legal past the age of about 7.

[Awaclus]

Anyone up for Drunk Mafia tonight?

Alas, I cannot legally play Drunk Mafia.

I think you can. Nothing stops you from drinking in the privacy of your own home regardless of age right ?

Presumably your parents will stop you, but I don't think there's anything illegal about it.

The only thing that stops me is the law. I don't know about France, but here in the USA, people under 21 are just out of luck.

Teproc is actually correct.  You are allowed to consume alcohol under the age of 21 in your own house under supervision of parents/guardians (in most states).  I did a quick google search and found this website.  No clue how legit it actually is, but it cites sources.

I know in the UK the drinking age is 18, but in your own home it's legal past the age of about 7.

In Finland, it's legal to drink small amounts of alcohol (not enough to get you drunk) regardless of your age, location or your guardians' supervision (I believe this is a thing mostly because the Eucharist involves 15-year-olds having a little bit of wine so it needs to be legal), but drinking enough to get drunk is always illegal for people under the age of 18.

[faust]

Why is there no game open except mine? Why is mine not filling? What is wrong with you guys?

[yuma]

Why is there no game open except mine? Why is mine not filling? What is wrong with you guys (except for yuma who has both joined my game and has a game currently running)?

fixed that for you.

[faust]

Why is there no game open except mine? Why is mine not filling? What is wrong with you guys (except for yuma who has both joined my game and has a game currently running)?

fixed that for you.

That yuma seems to be a swell guy.

[yuma]

Why is there no game open except mine? Why is mine not filling? What is wrong with you guys (except for yuma who has both joined my game and has a game currently running)?

fixed that for you.

That yuma seems to be a swell guy.

Seems to be being the most important part

[gkrieg13]

Night night night night night night

[yuma]

Night night night night night night

bored bored bored bored bored bored

[gkrieg13]

I usually wake up and do some mafia stuff in the morning. I can't this morning. Night night night night night night bored bored bored bored bored bored.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Does anyone maintain an active account over at mafiascum.net? I was trying to activate an account there to try some games over there for a change of pace, but the site isn't sending me my activation email. It says to contact the forum's administrators if I'm having trouble activating my account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that without an active account.

[yuma]

Does anyone maintain an active account over at mafiascum.net? I was trying to activate an account there to try some games over there for a change of pace, but the site isn't sending me my activation email. It says to contact the forum's administrators if I'm having trouble activating my account, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that without an active account.

I don't. But contact mith here. He is a mod over there, I believe, and may be able to help/direct you

[A Drowned Kernel]

Thanks!

[chairs]

On account of my flight out of NYC just got cancelled, I may be in NYC until Sunday. Any f.ds mafiabros want to meet up?

No guarantees yet, I'm trying to rebook my way out tomorrow (work is paying for this trip so I have to try) but if I"m stuck here Friday I'm definitely stuck here until Sunday due to weather.

[Witherweaver]

On account of my flight out of NYC just got cancelled, I may be in NYC until Sunday. Any f.ds mafiabros want to meet up?

No guarantees yet, I'm trying to rebook my way out tomorrow (work is paying for this trip so I have to try) but if I"m stuck here Friday I'm definitely stuck here until Sunday due to weather.

I'm in Manhattan.  What area are you in?  I could meet for a coffee or drink.

[chairs]

Well I'm up in New Rochelle at the moment. I'm actually here for work hanging out at the Benz dealership here.

I was just in Manhattan at Num Pang, left about 10 PM

[Witherweaver]

Well I'm up in New Rochelle at the moment. I'm actually here for work hanging out at the Benz dealership here.

I was just in Manhattan at Num Pang, left about 10 PM

Ah, well let me know if you come into the city tomorrow.  I'm in Midtown, near Grand Central.

[chairs]

Hokay sho.

I will be in town tomorrow and can definitely come down to Midtown. I was at the Wheeltapper last night and it seemed decent, but I'm open to other options (I have no clue wtf I'm doing in this crazy place).

I -might- be flying out at 6 AM Saturday... or I might be flying out at ~10 am Sunday.

I gotta talk to my boss.

[gkrieg13]

night night night night night

[ashersky]

Seriously?  All games in night?

[A Drowned Kernel]

How would people feel about a Drunk Mafia game this Saturday night, say 6 pm US central? (I realize that's pretty late for most of the Europe people but it's the earliest I could start)

[Roadrunner7671]

How would people feel about a Drunk Mafia game this Saturday night, say 6 pm US central? (I realize that's pretty late for most of the Europe people but it's the earliest I could start)

It's possible I'd be up for that, but I'm going to a college basketball game on Saturday at 3:00. If you want my input, I would suggest giving people even more notice and maybe planning it for some time closer to February 20th.

[chairs]

I started playing Town of Salem.

People don't lynch there. It's awful.

[Witherweaver]

I started playing Town of Salem.

People don't lynch there. It's awful.

That's because they burn.  At the stake.

[chairs]

I started playing Town of Salem.

People don't lynch there. It's awful.

That's because they burn.  At the stake.

No, they don't, they just sit there and let Mafia/SK kill everyone.

[Teproc]

I started playing Town of Salem.

People don't lynch there. It's awful.

That's because they burn.  At the stake.

No, they don't, they just sit there and let Mafia/SK kill everyone.

Wait, what ? Why ?

[chairs]

I started playing Town of Salem.

People don't lynch there. It's awful.

That's because they burn.  At the stake.

No, they don't, they just sit there and let Mafia/SK kill everyone.

Wait, what ? Why ?

Well, I think part of it is you have a "Will" mechanic there, where post-flip you can present something to Town.

That being said, mostly I think it's because people are dumb and don't understand that a random lynch (it's very fast-paced, at least the online flash game version is) is still better than a mafia led kill.

[Roadrunner7671]

Night shouldn't be a thing.

[Witherweaver]

Night shouldn't be a thing.

Blitz Mafia yo.

[chairs]

I NEED MORE GAMES TO LURK IN.

[iguanaiguana]

So scummy

<b> Vote: Chairs </b>

[chairs]

So scummy

<b> Vote: Chairs </b>

SCUMSLIP.

vote: iguanasquared

[iguanaiguana]

Hey, that's better than Igu.

[iguanaiguana]

It's not a scumslip tho.

Can I point you to my scum game where I explained in detail how it was not a scum slip?

[chairs]

It's not a scumslip tho.

Can I point you to my scum game where I explained in detail how it was not a scum slip?

Please yes, that sounds amazing.

[iguanaiguana]

It starts here more or less: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=14237.msg545928#msg545928

Marvel heroes, the scum team was me/Hydrad/Faust

We lost a triple MyLo.

[faust]

Hey, that's better than Igu.

But it's too long... let's see, how about just igusquared? Not, you don't like that, so simly isquared, or i˛. Hey, we can call you -1.

[chairs]

Hey, that's better than Igu.

But it's too long... let's see, how about just igusquared? Not, you don't like that, so simly isquared, or i˛. Hey, we can call you -1.

The imaginary root of all evil!

[iguanaiguana]

I like "ii" but no one uses it. -1 is way better than igu.

[Roadrunner7671]

I like "ii" but no one uses it. -1 is way better than igu.

I have just typed people's usernames so often that as soon as I type 'igu' it autocorrects to Iguanaiguana.

[silverspawn]

I NEED MORE GAMES TO LURK IN.

BUT I THOUGHT YOU HAD STOPPED LURKING

[Roadrunner7671]

I NEED MORE GAMES TO LURK IN.

BUT I THOUGHT YOU HAD STOPPED LURKING

ITS NOT NIGHT HOW ARE YOU POSTING HERE?

[Haddock]

I like "ii" but no one uses it. -1 is way better than igu.

I will remember this in future.

[gkrieg13]

Why do all games have to be in night at the same time?

[chairs]

Ikr

[gkrieg13]

Ikr

?

[chairs]

Ikr

?

I know right

[gkrieg13]

Ikr

?

I know right

Got it. Thanks

[gkrieg13]

Why do games always go into night at the same time?

[yuma]

Ikr

?

I know right

[Awaclus]

>tfw all the interesting setups allow direct QT quoting

[chairs]

I haven't seen the walking dead, but I want to /in to ash's game because ash games are always awesome. HELP.

[silverspawn]

I haven't seen the walking dead, but I want to /in to ash's game because ash games are always awesome. HELP.

just /in. I don't like the show, doesn't matter that much.

[ashersky]

I haven't seen the walking dead, but I want to /in to ash's game because ash games are always awesome. HELP.

PM to in.

[popsofctown]

Everyone, get in here!

[iguanaiguana]

Everyone, get in here!

Apparently this is where people talk when it's day?

[silverspawn]

Everyone, get in here!

Apparently this is where people talk when it's day?

time is a state of mind

[faust]

Those stupid previews and the resulting lag are seriously affecting the main purpose of this forum: playing forum games! Someone should ban Donald X.

[gkrieg13]

Night is so boring....  people should sign up for games so nights aren't so long and boring

[popsofctown]

People should set up pairs of games where exactly one is in night at all times!

[schadd]

[schadd]

(spoilers)

[schadd]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=70391
flawless'd


hammerstats: 2/2 scum
vigstats: 1/1 scum

[ashersky]

Am I the most sigged player?  I think I might be.

[AndrewisFTTW]

The mafia hangout and all this livestreaming of dominion gave me an idea. I wonder if it would be fun to go over old mafia games, the classics, in a live stream setting, analyzing what happened from hindsight, analyzing who played well and just generally walking down the memory lane. Maybe have two or three guys hosting it, and others could participate in chat, or even join in on the skype call.

Thoughts? Would this be interesting for anyone? It could also be a strategy talk session we've never really had outside of the games. In the game it's always difficult because you can't know if the other side is being genuine or not.

This might also help us to lure people who watch dominion streams into trying mafia, if it turned into a regular and popular thing, but that's of course thinking really far ahead. I think I want to try this if there are at least a couple other interested people and we can find a time that works for everyone.

Yo Eevee. Have you made any progress with this in the past two and a half years?

[SpaceAnemone]

The mafia hangout and all this livestreaming of dominion gave me an idea. I wonder if it would be fun to go over old mafia games, the classics, in a live stream setting, analyzing what happened from hindsight, analyzing who played well and just generally walking down the memory lane. Maybe have two or three guys hosting it, and others could participate in chat, or even join in on the skype call.

Thoughts? Would this be interesting for anyone? It could also be a strategy talk session we've never really had outside of the games. In the game it's always difficult because you can't know if the other side is being genuine or not.

This might also help us to lure people who watch dominion streams into trying mafia, if it turned into a regular and popular thing, but that's of course thinking really far ahead. I think I want to try this if there are at least a couple other interested people and we can find a time that works for everyone.

Yo Eevee. Have you made any progress with this in the past two and a half years?

There was a six-way video skype call the other day between those of us trying to organise the European f.ds meet-up (gkreig, faust, LaLight, silver, Calamitas and me). It seems like multi-way skype is not without issues even in this day and age!

To me, it kills things if I can't see other people when they're talking, but I'm aware my brain is wired a little oddly there.

[Joseph2302]

No normal mafia games for signup? :-(

[SpaceAnemone]

No normal mafia games for signup? :-(

Gkrieg's RMM is apparently not very non-normal. We've got a newbie friend of mine/Haddocks in there :-)

[gkrieg13]

No normal mafia games for signup? :-(

My game will be pretty simple. And very fun!

[Teproc]

Hi. Sorry for exiting abruptly... a year ago or so ? Stuff going on IRL, had to cut off from Internet in general to focus on other things. Don't know if I'll sign up for a mafia game just yet, might spectate a bit to get reacquainted with the meta (seems like there are many new faces), just wanted to say hi.

[faust]

Hi. Sorry for exiting abruptly... a year ago or so ? Stuff going on IRL, had to cut off from Internet in general to focus on other things. Don't know if I'll sign up for a mafia game just yet, might spectate a bit to get reacquainted with the meta (seems like there are many new faces), just wanted to say hi.

Hey, good to see you! Sadly, you missed M100 by just a bit.

[gkrieg13]

Hi. Sorry for exiting abruptly... a year ago or so ? Stuff going on IRL, had to cut off from Internet in general to focus on other things. Don't know if I'll sign up for a mafia game just yet, might spectate a bit to get reacquainted with the meta (seems like there are many new faces), just wanted to say hi.

Teproc!!!

[Robz888]

Hi. Sorry for exiting abruptly... a year ago or so ? Stuff going on IRL, had to cut off from Internet in general to focus on other things. Don't know if I'll sign up for a mafia game just yet, might spectate a bit to get reacquainted with the meta (seems like there are many new faces), just wanted to say hi.

Welcome back! You should read through Mafia 100 if you have the time.

I came back for Mafia 87, and then stuck around, and dragged mcmc and Eevee out of retirement too!

[Teproc]

Yeah, I see M100, too bad I missed that, I'll read that when I get the time.

Glad to see you (and mcmc and Eevee) are back Robz !

[schadd]

andrew homaged at you

[Teproc]

andrew homaged at you

That's... quite something ? I'll take it as a compliment. I think.

P.S. : I never even played in a Newbie Game !

[Witherweaver]

andrew homaged at you

That's... quite something ? I'll take it as a compliment. I think.

P.S. : I never even played in a Newbie Game !

Teproc was born a veteran.

[Teproc]

I'm interested in reading games from the past year, but I don't have time to read them all, would someone recommend a few ? Normal games only, after M79 ?

[2.71828.....]

I'm interested in reading games from the past year, but I don't have time to read them all, would someone recommend a few ? Normal games only, after M79 ?

M98

[Robz888]

I'm interested in reading games from the past year, but I don't have time to read them all, would someone recommend a few ? Normal games only, after M79 ?

M98

Yeah, 98 was a good one. 90 was decent, too.

[Witherweaver]

I'm interested in reading games from the past year, but I don't have time to read them all, would someone recommend a few ? Normal games only, after M79 ?

M99 is amusing because of night actions (spoiler: I was Mafia and got vigged by the Traitor on Night 1).

M90 was alright I think.

The conclusion of M79 was somewhat interesting; not sure if you followed any after you left.

[Teproc]

The conclusion of M79 was somewhat interesting; not sure if you followed any after you left.

I did not, though I skimmed the post-game discussion. Looked like you claimed scum at some point ? Fun times, I'll take a look at it, as well as 98 and 90. Thanks guys !

[Witherweaver]

The conclusion of M79 was somewhat interesting; not sure if you followed any after you left.

I did not, though I skimmed the post-game discussion. Looked like you claimed scum at some point ? Fun times, I'll take a look at it, as well as 98 and 90. Thanks guys !

It was e that claimed scum, I believe, as well as the Survivor/whatever third faction.  I misplayed it; figured we'd just win with SK Silver so gave up e, but Silver chose to win with the other faction (I think it was Jan).

[Teproc]

The conclusion of M79 was somewhat interesting; not sure if you followed any after you left.

I did not, though I skimmed the post-game discussion. Looked like you claimed scum at some point ? Fun times, I'll take a look at it, as well as 98 and 90. Thanks guys !

It was e that claimed scum, I believe, as well as the Survivor/whatever third faction.  I misplayed it; figured we'd just win with SK Silver so gave up e, but Silver chose to win with the other faction (I think it was Jan).

I remember I was obsessed with finding a way to get rid of silver all the time I was playing that game (trying to have bad interactions with him so that people would lynch him if I ever flipped was one I think), I even thought he was lying about being able to win with us. That whole situation was pretty weird, with both silver and us screwing up at the start. Anyway,  it does seem like that'd be an interesting read.

[ashersky]

Read the me/gkrieg Mason claim one.

[Teproc]

M90 and M98 were both fun reads, finally got to see SK!Robz. And of course I was convinced he was town for a very long time... that your fakeclaim was JK made me laugh out loud, of course it would be that. Makes me very excited to potentially play with Robz again, it's been a loong time (ASoIaF I think ?).

Read M79 too, which left a bit of a sour taste as it really doesn't feel like it should have been a normal game, but that's well in the past now so whatever. And I don't get to complain since I outed abruptly anyway.

Which one is that ash ? I'd look at the summaries, but I'd rather not know alignments ahead of time.

[ashersky]

This one: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13859.msg522872#msg522872

That link goes to the second post, as the first post has spoilers.

[schadd]

wherein someone replaces in and quickhammers to win

[schadd]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=72351


>350 posts
>7 days and a half hour


this scum win of mine was clearly entirely earned by skill and finesse

[schadd]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9292566#p9292566


and here's a game where i nearly call the scumteam d1 (3 listed as scum, 1 as null) and then promptly die of syphillis

[chairs]

hi.

[LaLight]

hi.

You're back! Hi!

[chairs]

I'm back, yes

[QuickSync]

I have not forgotten about this place, but I am waiting for just a plain old M game, currently.

[liopoil]

Ok, I will roll 1d2 using the forum software.  1, town wins.  2, scum wins.

[chairs]

Ok, I will roll 1d2 using the forum software.  1, town wins.  2, scum wins.

I hate coinflip wins/losses.

[iguanaiguana]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

[ashersky]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

Arch was 1/12, 3/3 at last recording, and he's a great player.

[iguanaiguana]

I'll do my best to top that.

I did realize when I looked at the games that a contributing factor to my winrate is that I have always rolled town in RMM. There are very very few town wins in RMM.

Also one of those M losses was a bastard game where no one suspected me but to win I would have had to shoot a hot potato that I didn't know existed. I feel less bad about that one.

[Teproc]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

I have been doing some stats, looking at normal games only... and I don't even know how you get to those numbers, I have you as the third-winningest town player in f.ds (among players with at least 10 town games) behind Hydrad (!) and Voltaire, and tied for 9th overall.

How do you only count two town wins ? You won
- 71: Harry Potter 2
- 76: Soap Opera
- 81: Desperation
- 83: Duel
- 85: Olympics
- 87: Portal

as well as 100 (Forum All-Stars) as mafia. I've not read any of these games I think, so it's possible I somehow flipped your alignment in every one of them ?

[iguanaiguana]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

I have been doing some stats, looking at normal games only... and I don't even know how you get to those numbers, I have you as the third-winningest town player in f.ds (among players with at least 10 town games) behind Hydrad (!) and Voltaire, and tied for 9th overall.

How do you only count two town wins ? You won
- 71: Harry Potter 2
- 76: Soap Opera
- 81: Desperation
- 83: Duel
- 85: Olympics
- 87: Portal

as well as 100 (Forum All-Stars) as mafia. I've not read any of these games I think, so it's possible I somehow flipped your alignment in every one of them ?

Nope, you're right. I forgot about Desperation, Duel, and Olympics. Portal I replaced out of right away though.

5W, 8L - that's better than I thought.

THANKS DWAYNE

[Teproc]

7W-7L overall, in normal games (6-5 as town and 1-2 as mafia).

[Witherweaver]

I think I used to have over a 50% win record, but I've had a number of losses in the last handful that I've played.

[Robz888]

I was 5-0 until Mafia 6, then I stopped keeping track...

[Galzria]

7W, 8L as town... definitely not my strongest. 4W, 2L as scum - however I've never lost when having team chat. Only as SK and Traitor.

[ashersky]

I'm at 50% as town across all non bastard games. 

[Teproc]

WW => 20W/20 L
As town: 14W/13L
As mafia: 6W/6L
As third party 0W/1L

I'll note that I do consider werewolves to be like mafia (you might make a difference between multiball or not, but it wouldn't make sense to only count werewolves as different), but mimes to be third party (along with SK and survivor). Debatable, certainly.

Robz => 29W/35L (+1 unresolved)
As town: 16W/25L
As mafia: 12W/9L (+1 unresolved)
As third party: 1W/1L

Galzria => 10W/10L
As town: 6W/8L
As mafia: 4W/1L
As third party: 0W/1L

ashersky =>19W/23L
As town: 11W/16L
As mafia: 7W/7L
As third party: 1W/0L

That's M games only, because those are the only ones that Matter. To me, that is.

[Witherweaver]

WW => 20W/20 L
As town: 14W/13L
As mafia: 6W/6L
As third party 0W/1L

I'll note that I do consider werewolves to be like mafia (you might make a difference between multiball or not, but it wouldn't make sense to only count werewolves as different), but mimes to be third party (along with SK and survivor). Debatable, certainly.

Robz => 29W/35L (+1 unresolved)
As town: 16W/25L
As mafia: 12W/9L (+1 unresolved)
As third party: 1W/1L

Confirmed: I'm better town than Robz.

[schadd]

I HAVE BEEN FORCED 2 ACCEPT THAT LUSTER PLAY IS A TOWNTELL 4 U

[LaLight]

I am 5W/3L as town in M's and 4W/0L as scum. Mostly I was lucky with partners

[Witherweaver]

I HAVE BEEN FORCED 2 ACCEPT THAT LUSTER PLAY IS A TOWNTELL 4 U

Because my scum play is lackluster?

[Witherweaver]

I am 5W/3L as town in M's and 4W/0L as scum. Mostly I was lucky with partners

Autolynch you from now on.

[Robz888]

I am 5W/3L as town in M's and 4W/0L as scum. Mostly I was lucky with partners

Woah! That's impressive.

[LaLight]

I am 5W/3L as town in M's and 4W/0L as scum. Mostly I was lucky with partners

Autolynch you from now on.

This will help my faction win

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I am 5W/3L as town in M's and 4W/0L as scum. Mostly I was lucky with partners

Not counting newbie games? 

I am, but only because it is in my favor to do so.

[J Reggie]

I HAVE BEEN FORCED 2 ACCEPT THAT LUSTER PLAY IS A TOWNTELL 4 U

Schadd is making up for all those capital letters he neglected.

[Archetype]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

Arch was 1/12, 3/3 at last recording, and he's a great player.

Can confirm trash town record, but alright scum player. I've got some sick BM wins though.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

0/3 as Town (or worse) and one game I can't talk about.

Edit: I can talk about that one. I lost it too (my only scum game).

[iguanaiguana]

My stats: T: 2W, 8L; M: 1W, 2L

I challenge anyone to show me a worse personal record.

0/3 as Town (or worse) and one game I can't talk about.

Edit: I can talk about that one. I lost it too (my only scum game).

Nice work, I think that means you win the losing game.

[schadd]

Edit: I can talk about that one. I lost it too (my only scum game).

no, you can't

[iguanaiguana]

IDPTG: one day we will roll scum together, and we will be able to brazenly pursue mislynches and blame them on our terrible luck and bad reads. It's gonna be great.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Edit: I can talk about that one. I lost it too (my only scum game).

no, you can't

Why not?

IDPTG: one day we will roll scum together, and we will be able to brazenly pursue mislynches and blame them on our terrible luck and bad reads. It's gonna be great.

It'll be amazing

[chairs]

I wonder what my record is. Somebody more energetic plz compile.

[Teproc]

I wonder what my record is. Somebody more energetic plz compile.

17W / 19L
Town: 15W / 18L
Mafia: 2W / 1L

Normal games only.

[Joseph2302]

I wonder what my record is. Somebody more energetic plz compile.

[Teproc]

I wonder what my record is. Somebody more energetic plz compile.

Hi. I'm the Teprocbot. Here are your stats.

10W / 15L
Town => 8W / 12L
Mafia => 2W / 2L
Third party => 0W / 1L

[mcmcsalot]

Do me do me!!

[Teproc]

Do me do me!!

10W / 17L
Town => 5W / 15L
Mafia => 5W / 2L

It's a good thing win % isn't all that indicative of skill, for town particularly. At least I hope so, because my numbers aren't all that great either (especially as town).

[Awaclus]

Do me do me!!

[Awaclus]

It's a good thing win % isn't all that indicative of skill, for town particularly. At least I hope so, because my numbers aren't all that great either (especially as town).

Well, it would be if there were tons of players and we were getting matched through a matchmaking system based on rankings, instead of having a small group of players playing against each other all the time. Now it's just indicative of our collective skill if anything.

[Teproc]

Do me do me!!

12W / 21L
Town => 8W / 13L
Mafia => 4W / 8L

[mcmcsalot]

Do me do me!!

10W / 17L
Town => 5W / 15L
Mafia => 5W / 2L

It's a good thing win % isn't all that indicative of skill, for town particularly. At least I hope so, because my numbers aren't all that great either (especially as town).

I was a tad shocked by this so I went and double checked, you missed a town loss somewhere (probably m60 which was in the middle of my haitius).

I do find it interesting that of my 5 mafia wins, 3 are flawless and of my 5 town wins 2 are flawelss. Also if you break my town performances into Lynched/Killed/Endgamed, my records are:
L = 1W/7L
K = 0W/6L
E = 4W/3L
Now I know why whenever I get killed or lynched as town I find it hard to still be invested in the game, my team never goes on to win without me.

My mafia breakdown is very redeeming.
L = 1W/1L
K = 0W/1L
E = 4W/0L

[Galzria]

I don't know if I've ever been endgame to a L. It's been far too long for me to remember.

[Teproc]

@mcmcsalot: I was missing M101, for some reason.

@Galzria: What are you asking exactly ? You've been endgamed once (M14: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags), if that was it.

[Teproc]

FWIW, most people do have better mafia records than town records. It's hard to compare because relatively so few people have 10+ completed games as mafia... only 9, but out of those 9, 6 have a 50% or better win%. By comparison, of the 39 people with 10+ completed games as town, only 5 have a 50% or better win %.

Robz has the best win% as mafia, btw. You might say "as expected" but he only passed Eevee thanks to the latter's two recent losses. Hydrad has the best win% as town, which I find rather funny, and Haddock has the best win% overall, again only looking at people with 10 completed games.

[Galzria]

@mcmcsalot: I was missing M101, for some reason.

@Galzria: What are you asking exactly ? You've been endgamed once (M14: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags), if that was it.

The results you listed for me were also missing a game for me - But what I was asking I think (at least what I took from mcmc's post) was what my record was in MyLo/LyLo situations. Games where the outcome is decided in the final day with no possible exceptions. Like M100.

[Galzria]

@mcmcsalot: I was missing M101, for some reason.

@Galzria: What are you asking exactly ? You've been endgamed once (M14: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags), if that was it.

The results you listed for me were also missing a game for me - But what I was asking I think (at least what I took from mcmc's post) was what my record was in MyLo/LyLo situations. Games where the outcome is decided in the final day with no possible exceptions. Like M100.

Galzria => 10W/10L
As town: 6W/8L
As mafia: 4W/1L
As third party: 0W/1L

Is what you had, but I'm 7W/8L as town. Almost 50%!

Also, I gueeeess you can count my Traitor loss in the Mafia column. It doesn't really feel like it though because I never felt part of the team.

[Teproc]

@mcmcsalot: I was missing M101, for some reason.

@Galzria: What are you asking exactly ? You've been endgamed once (M14: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags), if that was it.

The results you listed for me were also missing a game for me - But what I was asking I think (at least what I took from mcmc's post) was what my record was in MyLo/LyLo situations. Games where the outcome is decided in the final day with no possible exceptions. Like M100.

Galzria => 10W/10L
As town: 6W/8L
As mafia: 4W/1L
As third party: 0W/1L

Is what you had, but I'm 7W/8L as town. Almost 50%!

Also, I gueeeess you can count my Traitor loss in the Mafia column. It doesn't really feel like it though because I never felt part of the team.

Huh, I had M3 as a loss for you - I did it by hand while listening to podcasts so mistakes like this are bound to happen, which means that now I have it as 7W/7L actually.

Town wins: 3, 5, 6, 11, 17, 28, 32
Town losses: 4, 7, 8, 9, 14, 18, 31

Am I missing a game ?

As for lylos, a mafia you won lylos in M2, M23 and M100.

As town, we have:
- M8: Pirates of the Pearl Coast, in which you got lynched at lylo by theorel over O.
- M14: The Chicken Curse of the Se Hags, in which you and Grujah lynched town!joth over yuma and Cuzz at lylo.

Pretty sure those are your only town lylos in normal games.

[ashersky]

ashersky =>19W/23L
As town: 11W/16L
As mafia: 7W/7L
As third party: 1W/0L

That's M games only, because those are the only ones that Matter. To me, that is.

You are off somewhere, maybe missed some games.  Just compiled (M games only):

Town: 29 Games, 13 Wins, 2 MVPs
Scum: 14 Games, 8 Wins, 2 MVPs
3rd: 1 Game, 1 Win, 1 MVP

I've got the game numbers if you need them.  I started at M10.  It was also interesting to see the long stretches I didn't play.

[gkrieg13]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

[Galzria]

@mcmcsalot: I was missing M101, for some reason.

@Galzria: What are you asking exactly ? You've been endgamed once (M14: The Chicken Curse of the Sea Hags), if that was it.

The results you listed for me were also missing a game for me - But what I was asking I think (at least what I took from mcmc's post) was what my record was in MyLo/LyLo situations. Games where the outcome is decided in the final day with no possible exceptions. Like M100.

Galzria => 10W/10L
As town: 6W/8L
As mafia: 4W/1L
As third party: 0W/1L

Is what you had, but I'm 7W/8L as town. Almost 50%!

Also, I gueeeess you can count my Traitor loss in the Mafia column. It doesn't really feel like it though because I never felt part of the team.

Huh, I had M3 as a loss for you - I did it by hand while listening to podcasts so mistakes like this are bound to happen, which means that now I have it as 7W/7L actually.

Town wins: 3, 5, 6, 11, 17, 28, 32
Town losses: 4, 7, 8, 9, 14, 18, 31

Am I missing a game ?

As for lylos, a mafia you won lylos in M2, M23 and M100.

As town, we have:
- M8: Pirates of the Pearl Coast, in which you got lynched at lylo by theorel over O.
- M14: The Chicken Curse of the Se Hags, in which you and Grujah lynched town!joth over yuma and Cuzz at lylo.

Pretty sure those are your only town lylos in normal games.

Missed M13, town loss. But it was a Hydra game, so it's weird.

[Teproc]

@Galz: Right, that one. That's another loss at lylo for town!you by the way. So you're at 3/3, with all your lylo wins being as scum, and all your losses as town.

And the overall corrected stats (hopefully):
11W / 10L
Town => 7W / 8L
Mafia => 4W / 1L
Third party => 0W / 1L

@ash : Hm. I don't know where the numbers I quoted even came from because they're not what I'm looking at now... but it still doesn't fit with what you have. Namely, I'm missing a town win.

What I have is this :

12 town wins: 10, 11, 28, 29, 30, 32, 36, 50, 55, 74, 83, 104
16 town losses: 12, 13, 16, 19, 20, 22, 27, 33, 46, 48, 56, 65, 69, 73, 91, 96
8 mafia wins: 14, 18, 25, 35, 38, 61, 68, 100
6 mafia losses: 15, 40, 47, 70, 76, 103
1 third party win: 51

[Teproc]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

With the caveat that I obviously wasn't as thorough as I previously thought:

13W / 20L / 1 unresolved (Best Dominion Card)
Town => 9W / 17L / 1 unresolved
Mafia => 4W / 3L

[Galzria]

@Galz: Right, that one. That's another loss at lylo for town!you by the way. So you're at 3/3, with all your lylo wins being as scum, and all your losses as town.

And the overall corrected stats (hopefully):
11W / 10L
Town => 7W / 8L
Mafia => 4W / 1L
Third party => 0W / 1L

@ash : Hm. I don't know where the numbers I quoted even came from because they're not what I'm looking at now... but it still doesn't fit with what you have. Namely, I'm missing a town win.

What I have is this :

12 town wins: 10, 11, 28, 29, 30, 32, 36, 50, 55, 74, 83, 104
16 town losses: 12, 13, 16, 19, 20, 22, 27, 33, 46, 48, 56, 65, 69, 73, 91, 96
8 mafia wins: 14, 18, 25, 35, 38, 61, 68, 100
6 mafia losses: 15, 40, 47, 70, 76, 103
1 third party win: 51

Haha, so essentially from another town's perspective:

Lynch Galz in LyLo and you're damned, don't lynch Galz in LyLo and you're damned.

[gkrieg13]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

With the caveat that I obviously wasn't as thorough as I previously thought:

13W / 20L / 1 unresolved (Best Dominion Card)
Town => 9W / 17L / 1 unresolved
Mafia => 4W / 3L

I wonder what the win/loss rate of where I die N1 as town is.

[gkrieg13]

Quickly glancing, I don't die as often N1 as I thought. Definitely silver and Faust have a big stretch where they are almost always the N1 kills

[Teproc]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

With the caveat that I obviously wasn't as thorough as I previously thought:

13W / 20L / 1 unresolved (Best Dominion Card)
Town => 9W / 17L / 1 unresolved
Mafia => 4W / 3L

I wonder what the win/loss rate of where I die N1 as town is.

That's only 4 games actually (75, 78, 90, 100), for now.

1W / 3L

Funnily enough the win is the one in which you were a PR (well, in 78 you were an IC, in the other two a VT).

You might be interested to hear that you've been killed on N3 more often (5 times, though one of them was as scum) than on N1 actually... well I guess it'll be a tie in the near future.

[gkrieg13]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

With the caveat that I obviously wasn't as thorough as I previously thought:

13W / 20L / 1 unresolved (Best Dominion Card)
Town => 9W / 17L / 1 unresolved
Mafia => 4W / 3L

I wonder what the win/loss rate of where I die N1 as town is.

That's only 4 games actually (75, 78, 90, 100), for now.

1W / 3L

Funnily enough the win is the one in which you were a PR (well, in 78 you were an IC, in the other two a VT).

You might be interested to hear that you've been killed on N3 more often (5 times, though one of them was as scum) than on N1 actually... well I guess it'll be a tie in the near future.

I seemed to remember getting killed at night much more often, but this means that I made it to the end in quite a few games.

[Teproc]

Quickly glancing, I don't die as often N1 as I thought. Definitely silver and Faust have a big stretch where they are almost always the N1 kills

% of games in which player gets killed N1 or N0 (N0 only there because of the first Switch game which had a night start) as town.

1. jotheonah (33.33% in 15 games)
2. faust (29.03% in 31 games)
3. Insomniac (27.27% in 11 games)
4. Robz888 (23.81% in 42 games)
5. 2.71828... (21.05% in 19 games)
6. silverspawn (20.00% in 30 games)
6. Ichimaru Gin (20.00% in 14 games)
6. Voltgloss (20.00% in 10 games)
[...]
17. gkrieg13 (12.00% in 27 games)

(out of 39 players with 10 concluded normal town games).

Subject to my apparently numerous mistakes.

[Teproc]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

With the caveat that I obviously wasn't as thorough as I previously thought:

13W / 20L / 1 unresolved (Best Dominion Card)
Town => 9W / 17L / 1 unresolved
Mafia => 4W / 3L

I wonder what the win/loss rate of where I die N1 as town is.

That's only 4 games actually (75, 78, 90, 100), for now.

1W / 3L

Funnily enough the win is the one in which you were a PR (well, in 78 you were an IC, in the other two a VT).

You might be interested to hear that you've been killed on N3 more often (5 times, though one of them was as scum) than on N1 actually... well I guess it'll be a tie in the near future.

I seemed to remember getting killed at night much more often, but this means that I made it to the end in quite a few games.

gkrieg13's fate as town (27 games)

Lynched: 4 (14.81%)
Killed: 12 (44.44%)
Survived: 4 (14.81%)
Endgamed: 6 (22.22%)
Other: 1 (3.70%)

Other is Best Dominion Card, which was ended with you still alive, but I don't think counts as "survived" since you didn't win or "endgamed" since you didn't lose.

For overall context, % of games as town where player gets killed :

1. 2.71828... (68.42% in 19 games)
2. shraeye (63.64% in 11 games)
3. Teproc (63.16% in 19 games)
4. Insomniac (54.55% in 11 games)
5. yuma (53.85% in 26 games)
[...]
12. gkrieg13 (44.44% in 27 games)

[LaLight]

Can you do my fate?

[Teproc]

Can you do my fate?

Yeah, you don't appear above because you don't have 10 games completed as town. The record you cited earlier in this thread counted games I'm not considering, I'm guessing newbie games ? You'd rank second in the above (well, it would also include others so I don't know really), with:

town!LaLight (6 games)

Lynched: 0 (0%)
Killed: 4 (66.67%)
Survived: 2 (33.33%)
Endgamed: 0 (0%)

[Teproc]

A fun sidenote I hadn't realized before: of the 8 players I have scum stats for, WW is the only one who got killed as mafia more often than he has as town. In 12 games as scum, he's been killed 5 times ! His first 3 games he rolled scum (as well as the next 3 btw, the good old days of "well, WW is just always scum that's how mafia works") and got killed at night. Still won 2 of those by the way.

[LaLight]

Can you do my fate?

Yeah, you don't appear above because you don't have 10 games completed as town. The record you cited earlier in this thread counted games I'm not considering, I'm guessing newbie games ? You'd rank second in the above (well, it would also include others so I don't know really), with:

town!LaLight (6 games)

Lynched: 0 (0%)
Killed: 4 (66.67%)
Survived: 2 (33.33%)
Endgamed: 0 (0%)

Interesting. In my stats in sig I have 8 M games as town. Are you sure that's correct?

[Teproc]

I missed M87 (I had listed you as La Light instead of LaLight which messed me up), but you list M98 in your sig, and that's a game you modded.

Corrected:

town!LaLight's fate (7 games)

Lynched: 0 (0%)
Killed: 5 (71.43%)
Survived: 2 (28.57%)
Endgamed: 0 (0%)

Which puts you on track to be n°1 on the "Killed as town" list. It also means you're now tied with Haddock for best win% overall (you both have 8 wins in 11 games).

[Witherweaver]

A fun sidenote I hadn't realized before: of the 8 players I have scum stats for, WW is the only one who got killed as mafia more often than he has as town. In 12 games as scum, he's been killed 5 times ! His first 3 games he rolled scum (as well as the next 3 btw, the good old days of "well, WW is just always scum that's how mafia works") and got killed at night. Still won 2 of those by the way.

And yet I have one of the best town records~!

[2.71828.....]

I'm pretty sure I have an awful town record and about an even scum record.

With the caveat that I obviously wasn't as thorough as I previously thought:

13W / 20L / 1 unresolved (Best Dominion Card)
Town => 9W / 17L / 1 unresolved
Mafia => 4W / 3L

I wonder what the win/loss rate of where I die N1 as town is.

That's only 4 games actually (75, 78, 90, 100), for now.

1W / 3L

Funnily enough the win is the one in which you were a PR (well, in 78 you were an IC, in the other two a VT).

You might be interested to hear that you've been killed on N3 more often (5 times, though one of them was as scum) than on N1 actually... well I guess it'll be a tie in the near future.

I seemed to remember getting killed at night much more often, but this means that I made it to the end in quite a few games.

gkrieg13's fate as town (27 games)

Lynched: 4 (14.81%)
Killed: 12 (44.44%)
Survived: 4 (14.81%)
Endgamed: 6 (22.22%)
Other: 1 (3.70%)

Other is Best Dominion Card, which was ended with you still alive, but I don't think counts as "survived" since you didn't win or "endgamed" since you didn't lose.

For overall context, % of games as town where player gets killed :

1. 2.71828... (68.42% in 19 games)
2. shraeye (63.64% in 11 games)
3. Teproc (63.16% in 19 games)
4. Insomniac (54.55% in 11 games)
5. yuma (53.85% in 26 games)
[...]
12. gkrieg13 (44.44% in 27 games)

Man, I do a good job dying

[2.71828.....]

Moral of the story: don't lynch me.

[chairs]

I wonder what my record is. Somebody more energetic plz compile.

17W / 19L
Town: 15W / 18L
Mafia: 2W / 1L

Normal games only.

I'm surprised I have two Mafia wins, I'm awful at being the bad guys.

[pingpongsam]

I wonder what my record is. Somebody more energetic plz compile.

17W / 19L
Town: 15W / 18L
Mafia: 2W / 1L

Normal games only.

I'm surprised I have two Mafia wins, I'm awful at being the bad guys.

Clearly you are twice as good at being good at being the bad guy than you are at not being the bad guy. 2/3rds of your bad guy games are wins. Less than 50% of your good guy games are wins. Clearly you missed your calling in life.

[Teproc]

What's truly impressive is only rolling scum three times in 36 games. I checked, and no one else with 20+ games has rolled scum less than four times.

I guess chairs aren't made for killing. Wait, no, they make a great vig as we know. Not made for killing good guys then.

[ashersky]

@ash : Hm. I don't know where the numbers I quoted even came from because they're not what I'm looking at now... but it still doesn't fit with what you have. Namely, I'm missing a town win.

What I have is this :

12 town wins: 10, 11, 28, 29, 30, 32, 36, 50, 55, 74, 83, 104
16 town losses: 12, 13, 16, 19, 20, 22, 27, 33, 46, 48, 56, 65, 69, 73, 91, 96
8 mafia wins: 14, 18, 25, 35, 38, 61, 68, 100
6 mafia losses: 15, 40, 47, 70, 76, 103
1 third party win: 51

M71 is the difference.  HPII, town win as VT.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I am not in any games to do a DAMA. How sad.

[Galzria]

I am not in any games to do a DAMA. How sad.

Babe, you can DAMA me anytime.

[LaLight]

I am getting married, people!!!

[Galzria]

I am getting married, people!!!

!!!!!
Congratulations!

[pacovf]

You are doing this wrong. We can't upvote you in this thread.

[Robz888]

I am getting married, people!!!

Congrats!!!

[Awaclus]

I am getting married, people!!!

Wow where is all this LaLight love coming from all of the sudden?

[Awaclus]

Congrats!

[LaLight]

I am getting married, people!!!

Wow where is all this LaLight love coming from all of the sudden?

You are doing this wrong. We can't upvote you in this thread.

[schadd]

you two will go far

or maybe i've got that backwards

or the wrong person

[LaLight]

you two will go far

or maybe i've got that backwards

or the wrong person

right person

[2.71828.....]

Yeah, robz started a getting engaged thread for people who need upvotes a while back. I mean, for people who are getting married. The upvotes don't matter. Right?

[Joseph2302]

Yeah, robz started a getting engaged thread for people who need upvotes a while back. I mean, for people who are getting married. The upvotes don't matter. Right?

I thought the point of that thread was to claim to get engaged for the upvoted?

[schadd]

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/11267-ITA-turbo-take-2

first game on MU w e e e e e e e w

the setup is: closed weird, the deadlines are 12 minutes and at some point you can just start daykilling people with like 15% success rate

[CheesyJelly]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

[LaLight]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

[gkrieg13]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

And it gets worse the more of it you do!

[LaLight]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

And it gets worse the more of it you do!

Thanks for the heads up!

[gkrieg13]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

And it gets worse the more of it you do!

Thanks for the heads up!

I got lucky in the fact that kkrieg obviously enjoys planning

[LaLight]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

And it gets worse the more of it you do!

Thanks for the heads up!

I got lucky in the fact that kkrieg obviously enjoys planning

We both.. let's say.. moderately enjoy it

[sudgy]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

And it gets worse the more of it you do!

Thanks for the heads up!

I got lucky in the fact that kkrieg obviously enjoys planning

We both.. let's say.. moderately enjoy it

Have you considered having someone else do all (or at least a lot) of the wedding planning?  My sister did it at her wedding and it seemed to work really well.  There's a name for it but I can't remember at the moment.

[LaLight]

I am getting married, people!!!

WOOOO!  Congrats!  Started planning yet?

ooohhhh don't even ask. There's surprisingly a lot of stuff to plan

And it gets worse the more of it you do!

Thanks for the heads up!

I got lucky in the fact that kkrieg obviously enjoys planning

We both.. let's say.. moderately enjoy it

Have you considered having someone else do all (or at least a lot) of the wedding planning?  My sister did it at her wedding and it seemed to work really well.  There's a name for it but I can't remember at the moment.

Well, we definitely can handle this ourselves, that's no doubt. It would be tough but worth it I guess

[mcmcsalot]

Congratulations lalight!

Planning went really smoothly for me and the mcwife. Plan early and don't think it's silly to have things prepped. Planning early was like the best thing we could do, it was annoying spending like every evening planning stuff for a couple weeks but then we had almost a year of no stress and then it was just actually putting things in action the week before. Make things big, we had a big seating chart with everyone's names on stickies we could move around, we bought like 6 big cheap plastic bins to just start storing things we got for the centerpieces and decorations ect.

[ashersky]

Hey Mods of ongoing games: are there Speccy QTs?  If so, send me a link, please.

[chairs]

Like, what ashersky said.

Only for mods of games that are ongoing -now-.

Also, hi.

[faust]

Anyone here living near San Francisco? I will be there for a conference soonish (start of October) and it would be cool to meet some of you.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Anyone here living near San Francisco? I will be there for a conference soonish (start of October) and it would be cool to meet some of you.

Sad, I used to live in San Francisco but moved back to the east coast.

[faust]

Well this was disappointing. I definitely thought some people here were still living around the area from what I read here. Oh well. Maybe they moved away too, or they just don't fancy meeting me.

[WestCoastDidds]

I think there is a San Jose contingent,which isn't far and is on mass transit. Hydrad, DatSwan, Raptor maybe. Something like that...

[Robz888]

Well this was disappointing. I definitely thought some people here were still living around the area from what I read here. Oh well. Maybe they moved away too, or they just don't fancy meeting me.

Come to DC!

[faust]

Well this was disappointing. I definitely thought some people here were still living around the area from what I read here. Oh well. Maybe they moved away too, or they just don't fancy meeting me.

Come to DC!

Let me know when there are any interesting conferences on knot theory in the area!

[chairs]

Come to KC, any of you! There's an interesting "conference" on BBQ yearly - http://www.americanroyal.com/bbq/

[SpaceAnemone]

Are any of you Mafia folks anywhere remotely near Nashville Tennessee around the weekend of 15th-16th Dec? I need to go there for work at short notice, and the flights are prohibitively expensive if I don't say on that continent for at least some of the weekend, so I'm looking at options...

[chairs]

I’m in KC which is “close” for a given value of close

[Awaclus]

I’m in KC which is “close” for a given value of close

Are you getting played three times?

[chairs]

I’m in KC which is “close” for a given value of close

Are you getting played three times?

I’m not getting the reference

[Awaclus]

I’m in KC which is “close” for a given value of close

Are you getting played three times?

I’m not getting the reference

[SpaceAnemone]

I’m in KC which is “close” for a given value of close

Are you getting played three times?

I’m not getting the reference

Wow.. it's almost like this is a Dominion forum rather than a Mafia forum! :-P

In other news, I may now have to travel even sooner, and be in the US this coming weekend instead... but if I do that, I probably also need work through the weekend with the people I'm going to see, in order to fit everything in with the short timescale :-/

[jotheonah]

Drunk mafia. Tonight. Be there or be square. Come play while DS9 is in night.

[raerae]

Drunk mafia. Tonight. Be there or be square. Come play while DS9 is in night.

WE'RE TOTALLY NOT PAYING HIM TO SAY THIS.

[shraeye]

I sent out some messages to many distant friends....it would be amazing if one pops in.  You wouldn't want to miss it.

[chairs]

I was too busy for drunk mafia sorry

[jotheonah]

I was too busy for drunk mafia sorry

I was too drunk for busy mafia

[SpaceAnemone]

I was too asleep for it, but I enjoyed skimming it in retrospect on Sunday, especially all the owls :-)

[WestCoastDidds]

All of the owls!  The owls are amazing!!!

[jotheonah]

Someone should start another game. I want to play, not just mod.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I'll start one once either Eddie and I work out the kinks of our open setup, or decide it's going to take more than another day or two and I just run one of the other closed ones I have made up.

[jotheonah]

I'll start one once either Eddie and I work out the kinks of our open setup, or decide it's going to take more than another day or two and I just run one of the other closed ones I have made up.

/in

[chairs]

I’m in but my life is busy so I’m gonna make maybe a post or two a day normally

[jotheonah]

Three different people now have quotes from me as their sigs. I guess I’m quite quotable!

[infangthief]

Three different people now have quotes from me as their sigs. I guess I’m quite quotable!

Done.

[jotheonah]

Three different people now have quotes from me as their sigs. I guess I’m quite quotable!

Done.

Love it

[WestCoastDidds]

Three different people now have quotes from me as their sigs. I guess I’m quite quotable!

Done.

Love it

Indeed.  I took out the first part of the post about being quite drunk, but it was all in all, adorbs

[Awaclus]

adorbs

Every time I see this word, I parse it as "ador BS".

[WestCoastDidds]

adorbs

Every time I see this word, I parse it as "ador BS".

Ha! That kind of works, too

[raerae]

adorbs

Every time I see this word, I parse it as "ador BS".

I love this so much more than I should.

[jotheonah]

adorbs

Every time I see this word, I parse it as "ador BS".

When I saw this, I parsed it as "adore B5". And I thought Yes! Babylon 5 deserves more appreciation.

[Robz888]

So I just got back from a work conference: I had been tasked with running a gaming session for donors to our organization. I brought a bunch of mafia type games, including mafia itself. It was super fun, and everybody had a great time. I also found out one of our significant supporters is  huge Dominion fan. He brought his Dominion Big Box to the conference the next day to prove it!

[jotheonah]

I want to do a Shakespeare themed bastard mafia game just so I can name it "Mods, stand up for bastards".

[Glooble]

If I wanted to run Temeraire mafia at some point, would anyone at all here be familiar with the flavor?

[A Drowned Kernel]

If I wanted to run Temeraire mafia at some point, would anyone at all here be familiar with the flavor?

Yes please

They are the dumbest books I've ever read twice

[SpaceAnemone]

If I wanted to run Temeraire mafia at some point, would anyone at all here be familiar with the flavor?

Dragons! I've read at least the first few books :-)

[ashersky]

I’ve read them all, I believe.

[Witherweaver]

If I wanted to run Temeraire mafia at some point, would anyone at all here be familiar with the flavor?

Yes please

They are the dumbest books I've ever read twice

[faust]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

[Glooble]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

Providence isn't too far from joth and me.

[WestCoastDidds]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

That is so awesome!  Providence is amazing! Do you like lobster? So much lobster....

[faust]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

That is so awesome!  Providence is amazing! Do you like lobster? So much lobster....

I don't know, is there vegetarian lobster? They make everything veggie these days, so maybe.

[jotheonah]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

Providence isn't too far from joth and me.

If you end up making a day trip to Boston (which I highly recommend) let us know! I don't think anyone else is here except Cuzz, who is maybe not around anymore.

[faust]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

Providence isn't too far from joth and me.

If you end up making a day trip to Boston (which I highly recommend) let us know! I don't think anyone else is here except Cuzz, who is maybe not around anymore.

It's very likely that I will, I have 6 weeks there and should find some time! Still in the early planning stages, but I'll definitely keep this in mind.

[jotheonah]

We need three more people for Doomsday Mafia. If we don't get them soon, there will be zero mafia games running -- a true Doomsday scenario.

[Awaclus]

I'd join it, but I don't feel like playing VT in a game as big as 15 players. I'd join an RMM though.

[Glooble]

I'd join it, but I don't feel like playing VT in a game as big as 15 players. I'd join an RMM though.

I have a RMM setup I've been working on but given my experience with the last one I want to take more time to balance it. Though it is definitely less ambitious in terms of fundamental rule changes.

[popsofctown]

I'd join it, but I don't feel like playing VT in a game as big as 15 players. I'd join an RMM though.

VT is the best role, you need to learn to love it.

I'm about to mod a game with only 1 PR.

[scolapasta]

I am going to be in the US this fall! (September and part of October)

I will be staying at Brown University. If anyone in the area wants to meet up, that would be cool.

Providence isn't too far from joth and me.

If you end up making a day trip to Boston (which I highly recommend) let us know! I don't think anyone else is here except Cuzz, who is maybe not around anymore.

Hi, I am also in Boston area.

[scolapasta]

We need three more people for Doomsday Mafia. If we don't get them soon, there will be zero mafia games running -- a true Doomsday scenario.

I could be interested. I've only played very simple Mafia and in person. What's the online pace like?

[jotheonah]

We need three more people for Doomsday Mafia. If we don't get them soon, there will be zero mafia games running -- a true Doomsday scenario.

I could be interested. I've only played very simple Mafia and in person. What's the online pace like?

That one is long over! But I’m planning to run a beginner-friendly game soon.

[ashersky]

Did we have the probability discussion/explanation in this thread?  I can't remember.

Anyway, you all taught this non-math-included creative writing major about the coin flips/doors thing.

Flip a coin (no tricksies) and I have a 50% chance of heads.
Only a 25% chance of heads twice in a row.

Is that right?  I think that's right.

I was just wondering, can that be (theoretically) exploited to make money?  In a theoretical situation where someone is willing to bet on a coin flip (I'm sure this exists), couldn't I flip a coin in advance, see which result I get, and then always bet on the opposite, given I know that the next time I flip a coin, I only have a 25% chance of hitting the same side?

It'd be a long game, but the odds would always be in my favor, so you'd have to expect to be making money in the long run.  To increase the odds, I could keep flipping coins until I do get two in a row, and then make the wager against the third occurrence.

It's clearly dishonest since the person betting against me doesn't know that I've already flipped a coin, but it seems like a highly exploitable move.

(This is assuming the probability rule applies to the flipper.  If it applies to the coin itself, I guess it would be harder to do in quantity, given you'd have to track which coins you flips and what result each coin has preloaded.)

[Jimmmmm]

Even if you've just flipped 10 heads in a row, the next one is still 50/50 if it's a fair coin.

[sudgy]

That line of thinking is a classic example of the gambler's fallacy.  The probability of getting two heads in a row is 25% before you flip the first time.  At any time, when you flip a [fair] coin, no matter the circumstances, the probability is 50%.

[silverspawn]

That line of thinking is a classic example of the gambler's fallacy.  The probability of getting two heads in a row is 25% before you flip the first time.  At any time, when you flip a [fair] coin, no matter the circumstances, the probability is 50%.

Yes.

The reason that flipping heads twice in a row is unlikely is not that heads is unlikely on any one flip. Rather, when you flip two coins, you have the four possibilities (heads, heads) and (heads, tails) and (tails, heads) and (tails, tails). All of those are equally likely, but because only one of them has two heads and two of them have one of each, it's twice as likely to have one of each.

[Awaclus]

Rather, when you flip two coins, you have the four possibilities (heads, heads) and (heads, tails) and (tails, heads) and (tails, tails). All of those are equally likely

And notably, when you flip a coin for the first time and look at the result, two of those possibilities are eliminated, which leaves you with two possibilities, both of which are still equally likely.

[ashersky]

Three years ago

Ash: “hey, it’s it 50/50 every coin flip no matter what?”
Everyone: “no dummy, it’s only 1/4 to go heads twice!”
Ash: “but, each time I flip a coin...seems like there are only two outcomes?”
Everyone: “nope! Probability man!”
Ash: “okay, I’m a math dope so okay.”

Three years later

Ash: “hey, since most people think it’s 50/50 every time you flip a coin, can’t we exploit that with this probability stuff?”
Everyone: “no dummy, every time you flip a coin it is 50/50.”

Argh.

[ashersky]

I thought that for any set of two coin flips, there are four outcomes.
If there are four distinct outcomes, there is a 1/4 chance of any of them.
If you gamble on that outcome, you have a 1/4 chance of winning.

With prior knowledge, I can increase my odds of winning.  (I.e., I know that TT and TH are impossible because the first flip was heads.  I can bet on HT or HH safely.)

In my scenario, the opponent gambler is unknowingly betting on a 2-coin set because the coin has already been physically flipped.  The dishonest part is not informing them that he is gambling on a set of flips.   The chance that he correctly calls a two-flip set is 1/25, no?

Three years ago I would have just said they still have a 50/50 chance since it is one coins. But you all convinced me that it’s 1/4 because it is part of a set of two flips.

[Jimmmmm]

Do you remember where we convinced you of that?

[ashersky]

Do you remember where we convinced you of that?

I do.  That’s why I’m asking now and you are trying to convince me of the opposite (that it’s 50/50 again instead of 1/4).

Even if you've just flipped 10 heads in a row, the next one is still 50/50 if it's a fair coin.

[Jimmmmm]

Where?

[ashersky]

Where?

Somewhere on the board.  I think there was Monty Hall and mafia alignments involved. 

[shraeye]

mafia alignments are weird.  I mean Monty Hall is too.  And probability can get pretty complicated quite by accident too.

The hidden issue in all of these questions is about perspective.  We need to resolve "when"/"from what perspective" we are asking the question (a.k.a. how much do I know about the overall context so far).  And also resolve EXACTLY what the question is ("will the next 2 coin flips be heads?" is different than "will the next coin flip also be heads?")

Like in mafia, there is a priori probability.  Before any mod rolled any dice, before any player got any PM, what are the possible distributions of roles.  This is a perspective a mod using a randomized setup might care about.  (so how likely is 2 cops AND 2 doctors?)

There is also the probability calculation that each player can do as soon as they get their PM.  ("well, I'm a JK, so let's only think about possible setups where I was assigned JK.  With that info, how likely is it that there is also a doctor?).  There's a method to do that called Conditional Probability, and there's a method that sort of cheats around the official definition of Conditional Probability.  Both get the same answer, but if one person is explaining style A and you were thinking more along the lines of style B, you could get confused by the details.

But once the game starts probability stops being a straightforward math problem.  Because we want to use actions people take to determine their alignment (voting, claiming, whatever), but the people did those actions AFTER they got an alignment.  So asking something like "raerae did YYY, so how likely is it that she's the doctor" isn't really talking about probability anymore, it's pure psychology.  But still people do vote counts and throw around words like "better odds" "more likely", not really acknowledging that we just slipped from the strict-math definition of "better odds" to a more colloquial definition of "better odds".

Maybe that doesn't clear anything up at all.

[faust]

There is a subtle difference in what exactly you know. If you have two coin flips, there are four outcomes: H/H, H/T, T/H, T/T.

Now, if all we know is that there is a coin among these that flipped H, that means we can eliminate the T/T option. If you now ask "knowing this, what was the result of coin flip 2?" - 2 of the 3 options have it as H, so the probability of H is 2/3. This is probably what came up originally.

There's is a subtle difference in the scenario you propose, which is that we also know which coin flipped H. It was the first one, so we can eliminate both the options T/T and T/H. Then, by the same reasoning as before, we are left with 2 options for the flip of coin 2, one H and one T. Thus the chance is 50/50 in this case.

I hope this made the distinction clearer. It's not that the extra information from you have about the previous flip does not come into play at all, it's just that it does not end up changing the probabilities.

[popsofctown]

Don't play Monty Hall mafia, it's lame

[ashersky]

There is a subtle difference in what exactly you know. If you have two coin flips, there are four outcomes: H/H, H/T, T/H, T/T.

Now, if all we know is that there is a coin among these that flipped H, that means we can eliminate the T/T option. If you now ask "knowing this, what was the result of coin flip 2?" - 2 of the 3 options have it as H, so the probability of H is 2/3. This is probably what came up originally.

There's is a subtle difference in the scenario you propose, which is that we also know which coin flipped H. It was the first one, so we can eliminate both the options T/T and T/H. Then, by the same reasoning as before, we are left with 2 options for the flip of coin 2, one H and one T. Thus the chance is 50/50 in this case.

I hope this made the distinction clearer. It's not that the extra information from you have about the previous flip does not come into play at all, it's just that it does not end up changing the probabilities.

This all makes sense -- for my perspective.

The con relies on the decreased odds of the opponent -- from their perspective, they are making a 50/50 bet on a 25% chance.

If our victim is called mail-mi, for example, and they are addicted to gambling and isn't inclined to think things through.  I offer a bet on a coin flip -- 50/50 odds for you, mail-mi!  They see one coin in hand, it is a fair coin, and can only land on heads or tails.  Seems good.

The hidden information is that I have already flipped that coin once, providing a result of which mail-mi is unaware.  What mail-mi thinks is a single coin flip is in fact part of a two-flip set.  I am forcing mail-mi to gamble on the 1/4 chance outcome without their knowledge.  The possible outcomes (for mail-mi) are HH, HT, TT, TH.  For the con to work, I have to force mail-mi into betting on the only possible double letter bet.  But that should be negligible for a con artist.

In your explanation, "we" know information.  In my scenario, the victim does not.  If there are four outcomes for two coin flips, the chances of predicting the right one is 1 in 4.  I don't see how that can be changed.

Even in the case of "there are two coin flips, one has been flipped but you do not NOT know the result" there are still four possible outcomes, right?  That one is closer to the con scenario, except mail-mi doesn't even know the first coin has already been flipped.

Where am I going wrong in this?

[MiX]

So, from your perspective, you flipped the coin once, so you know out of the 2 flips it's going to be (HH, HT) or (TH, TT), depending on whether you got Heads or Tails. But mail-mi doesn't, so it can be any of the 4 (HH, HT, TH, TT). However, he's only betting on the SECOND coin being Heads or Tails, which means if he bets that it's going to land on Heads, he's betting on HH or TH to occur, vice-versa if he bets on Tails. Regardless of what you flipped first, the odds of one of these happening is 1 out of 2 from your perspective, whereas from mail-mi's perspective is 2 out of 4, which is the same.

Does that make sense?

[ashersky]

So, from your perspective, you flipped the coin once, so you know out of the 2 flips it's going to be (HH, HT) or (TH, TT), depending on whether you got Heads or Tails. But mail-mi doesn't, so it can be any of the 4 (HH, HT, TH, TT). However, he's only betting on the SECOND coin being Heads or Tails, which means if he bets that it's going to land on Heads, he's betting on HH or TH to occur, vice-versa if he bets on Tails. Regardless of what you flipped first, the odds of one of these happening is 1 out of 2 from your perspective, whereas from mail-mi's perspective is 2 out of 4, which is the same.

Does that make sense?

Sure.  But why?

I am secretly asking mail-mi to bet if the result of two coin flips will be HH, HT, TT, or TH.  I force him into choosing TT.
1. If no coins have been flipped at the time of betting, that's 25% every single time (1 out of 4)
2. If a coin has been flipped but no one knows the result at the time of betting, that's 25% (1 out of 4)
3. If a coin has been flipped and we know the result after betting, it's 66% (2 out of 3 -- both HH and HT are losses and would count as one outcome I think, TT, or TH)

Is #2 correct there?
If it is, why is in incorrect if I know the result but mail-mi doesn't?
Does it matter if a third-person knows but neither I nor mail-mi does?

[MiX]

I am secretly asking mail-mi to bet if the result of two coin flips will be HH, HT, TT, or TH.  I force him into choosing TT.
1. If no coins have been flipped at the time of betting, that's 25% every single time (1 out of 4)
2. If a coin has been flipped but no one knows the result at the time of betting, that's 25% (1 out of 4)
3. If a coin has been flipped and we know the result after betting, it's 66% (2 out of 3 -- both HH and HT are losses and would count as one outcome I think, TT, or TH)

Is #2 correct there?
If it is, why is in incorrect if I know the result but mail-mi doesn't?
Does it matter if a third-person knows but neither I nor mail-mi does?

If you force him to choose TT, knowing it first flipped H, you'll always win, right? By making him guess the second coin will be Tails, regardless of what you know of the first flip, he's betting on HT and TT at the same time, because those are the results where the second coin is Tails.

[ashersky]

I am secretly asking mail-mi to bet if the result of two coin flips will be HH, HT, TT, or TH.  I force him into choosing TT.
1. If no coins have been flipped at the time of betting, that's 25% every single time (1 out of 4)
2. If a coin has been flipped but no one knows the result at the time of betting, that's 25% (1 out of 4)
3. If a coin has been flipped and we know the result after betting, it's 66% (2 out of 3 -- both HH and HT are losses and would count as one outcome I think, TT, or TH)

Is #2 correct there?
If it is, why is in incorrect if I know the result but mail-mi doesn't?
Does it matter if a third-person knows but neither I nor mail-mi does?

If you force him to choose TT, knowing it first flipped H, you'll always win, right? By making him guess the second coin will be Tails, regardless of what you know of the first flip, he's betting on HT and TT at the same time, because those are the results where the second coin is Tails.

Again, I agree that what you are explaining is sensible in the context of real life.

My point is why does the probability thing not work out?  Nothing has changed in regards to the four possible outcomes from mail-mi's perspective. . Or to put it another way, isn't that win where the second coin hit Tails something that happens 25% of the time?

[MiX]

I am secretly asking mail-mi to bet if the result of two coin flips will be HH, HT, TT, or TH.  I force him into choosing TT.
1. If no coins have been flipped at the time of betting, that's 25% every single time (1 out of 4)
2. If a coin has been flipped but no one knows the result at the time of betting, that's 25% (1 out of 4)
3. If a coin has been flipped and we know the result after betting, it's 66% (2 out of 3 -- both HH and HT are losses and would count as one outcome I think, TT, or TH)

Is #2 correct there?
If it is, why is in incorrect if I know the result but mail-mi doesn't?
Does it matter if a third-person knows but neither I nor mail-mi does?

If you force him to choose TT, knowing it first flipped H, you'll always win, right? By making him guess the second coin will be Tails, regardless of what you know of the first flip, he's betting on HT and TT at the same time, because those are the results where the second coin is Tails.

Again, I agree that what you are explaining is sensible in the context of real life.

My point is why does the probability thing not work out?  Nothing has changed in regards to the four possible outcomes from mail-mi's perspective. . Or to put it another way, isn't that win where the second coin hit Tails something that happens 25% of the time?

The odds of the second coin flipping Tails is 50% regardless of the first coin flip. You can't force mail-mi to also bet that the first coin is T because he doesn't know it exists.

Let's say the first coin flipped Tails. Now you're offering a choice to mail-mi: will this coin flip Heads or Tails? From mail-mi's perspective, he sees two possiblities: H or T. From your perspective, you also see two possiblities: TH or TT, because HH and HT were ruled out. Thus the odds for both of you for the coin to flip, say, Tails now is the same: 50%.

[Awaclus]

The information that you have is obviously not capable of affecting the result of the coin flip or any other aspect of the physical reality, unless you have psychic powers. What the information does allow you to do is to eliminate possibilities that contradict the information that you have, when you are guessing what the reality is, so that you can make a better guess.

[Awaclus]

The information that you have is obviously not capable of affecting the result of the coin flip or any other aspect of the physical reality, unless you have psychic powers. What the information does allow you to do is to eliminate possibilities that contradict the information that you have, when you are guessing what the reality is, so that you can make a better guess.

i.e. it is possible to orchestrate a con in which you are able to make better guesses than mail-mi because you have more information than he does (by e.g. suggesting that you both flip a coin in secret without looking at the result, and then place bets on the four possibilities, but you cheat and check out your own result). You can't orchestrate a con in which you can manipulate the result of a coin flip by knowing the results of previous coin flips.

[Awaclus]

Oh and if you manage to fool two people into a game where you flip two coins and person A wins if they're both tails, person B wins if they're both heads, and you win if one is tails and the other is heads, you will make money.

[faust]

I am secretly asking mail-mi to bet if the result of two coin flips will be HH, HT, TT, or TH.  I force him into choosing TT.
1. If no coins have been flipped at the time of betting, that's 25% every single time (1 out of 4)
2. If a coin has been flipped but no one knows the result at the time of betting, that's 25% (1 out of 4)
3. If a coin has been flipped and we know the result after betting, it's 66% (2 out of 3 -- both HH and HT are losses and would count as one outcome I think, TT, or TH)

Is #2 correct there?
If it is, why is in incorrect if I know the result but mail-mi doesn't?
Does it matter if a third-person knows but neither I nor mail-mi does?

If you force him to choose TT, knowing it first flipped H, you'll always win, right? By making him guess the second coin will be Tails, regardless of what you know of the first flip, he's betting on HT and TT at the same time, because those are the results where the second coin is Tails.

Again, I agree that what you are explaining is sensible in the context of real life.

My point is why does the probability thing not work out?  Nothing has changed in regards to the four possible outcomes from mail-mi's perspective. . Or to put it another way, isn't that win where the second coin hit Tails something that happens 25% of the time?

Let me try another way of explanation: Yes, TT has a 25% chance. If you know that the first coin is T, then they are betting on the 25% chance. But... only in 50% of the cases will you even get to this point, as it requires that the first coin flipped T.

Your scheme is basically this:
Flip coin.
  if T, make them bet on TT
  if H, make them bet on HH

So overall, you will make them bet on TT and HH, and together these have a 50% chance.

[Galzria]

I believe you could set it up thusly:

“I’m going to flip two coins. One Coin will be flipped first, and the result will not be public. The second coin will then be flipped, and again, the result will not be public. Place your bet: Choose between Heads & Tails for one of the coins “

Mail-Mi Chooses Heads.

“I’m now going to reveal one Coin & give you the option of staying with your choice for the second coin, or changing your mind”. 

Given the possible outcomes: HH, TH, TT, HT, if you show him a coin that is Tails, he’ll want to stay with Heads. If you show him a coin that is Heads, he’ll want to switch to Tails. Even though the coins were both flipped beforehand, and one coin flip does not DIRECTLY impact the other, by knowing which subset of {HH, TT} can be eliminated, Mail-Mi can increase his odds from 1/2 to 2/3.

[mail-mi]

I just wanna know why ashersky is trying to dupe me in the first place. 

[Galzria]

I just wanna know why ashersky is trying to dupe me in the first place. 

He’s sneaky, that one. But I’ve rigged the game in your favor, don’t worry.

[Galzria]

I believe you could set it up thusly:

“I’m going to flip two coins. One Coin will be flipped first, and the result will not be public. The second coin will then be flipped, and again, the result will not be public. Place your bet: Choose between Heads & Tails for one of the coins “

Mail-Mi Chooses Heads.

“I’m now going to reveal one Coin & give you the option of staying with your choice for the second coin, or changing your mind”. 

Given the possible outcomes: HH, TH, TT, HT, if you show him a coin that is Tails, he’ll want to stay with Heads. If you show him a coin that is Heads, he’ll want to switch to Tails. Even though the coins were both flipped beforehand, and one coin flip does not DIRECTLY impact the other, by knowing which subset of {HH, TT} can be eliminated, Mail-Mi can increase his odds from 1/2 to 2/3.

Note that if you tell him WHICH coin you’re showing him (first or second), it brings it back down to 1/2 again, as he can eliminate another possibility (if you tell him you’re showing him the second flip, and that flip is Heads, the only two possible outcomes are {HH, TH}).

[MiX]

I believe you could set it up thusly:

“I’m going to flip two coins. One Coin will be flipped first, and the result will not be public. The second coin will then be flipped, and again, the result will not be public. Place your bet: Choose between Heads & Tails for one of the coins “

Mail-Mi Chooses Heads.

“I’m now going to reveal one Coin & give you the option of staying with your choice for the second coin, or changing your mind”. 

Given the possible outcomes: HH, TH, TT, HT, if you show him a coin that is Tails, he’ll want to stay with Heads. If you show him a coin that is Heads, he’ll want to switch to Tails. Even though the coins were both flipped beforehand, and one coin flip does not DIRECTLY impact the other, by knowing which subset of {HH, TT} can be eliminated, Mail-Mi can increase his odds from 1/2 to 2/3.

Wait, what? What's mail-mi betting on? The second coin being H/T or...any of them being H/T? If you're betting for the second coin to be Heads, and then you're shown that one of them is Heads, don't you stay?

[Galzria]

I believe you could set it up thusly:

“I’m going to flip two coins. One Coin will be flipped first, and the result will not be public. The second coin will then be flipped, and again, the result will not be public. Place your bet: Choose between Heads & Tails for one of the coins “

Mail-Mi Chooses Heads.

“I’m now going to reveal one Coin & give you the option of staying with your choice for the second coin, or changing your mind”. 

Given the possible outcomes: HH, TH, TT, HT, if you show him a coin that is Tails, he’ll want to stay with Heads. If you show him a coin that is Heads, he’ll want to switch to Tails. Even though the coins were both flipped beforehand, and one coin flip does not DIRECTLY impact the other, by knowing which subset of {HH, TT} can be eliminated, Mail-Mi can increase his odds from 1/2 to 2/3.

Wait, what? What's mail-mi betting on? The second coin being H/T or...any of them being H/T? If you're betting for the second coin to be Heads, and then you're shown that one of them is Heads, don't you stay?

He doesn’t know which of the flipped coins you’ve shown him (first or second). What he’s deciding on is, knowing that one of them is Heads, does he change his choice for the remaining one.

I realized after I typed it there was ambiguity in the first/second stuff.

[silverspawn]

The information that you have is obviously not capable of affecting the result of the coin flip or any other aspect of the physical reality, unless you have psychic powers.

Yes, but probability theory should (and does!) confirm this. If it appears as if it doesn't, that's worth investigating, because it means there's a misunderstanding.

[silverspawn]

Man, you really have a talent for asking about fundamentally confusing stuff. It's so hard to give a satisfying explanation to your problem. I think faust's last post is the one that comes closest to that, but I can see why it's not quite there.

To make sure I understand the problem correctly, let me rephrase your point:


If I flip a coin, it comes up heads, and I ask mail-mi to bet on the second coin flip coming up heads, then

Probability for (two heads given that the first coin already landed) = 1/4

and this is the event whose probability matters for mail-mi, because all mail-mi knows is that the first coin has already been flipped. Now I'm forcing him to bet on HH, which, according to the above, only has a 1/4 chance. Question: why doesn't this mean mail-mi gets a bad deal?


Is that it?

[silverspawn]

Assuming I understand your problem, I think the fundamental answer is that you're looking at the wrong event. The event is

two heads given that the first coin already landed

And the probability for this event is indeed 1/4. But you've selected the event you're asking for based on the result of the first flip, and then didn't condition on the result of the first flip. Because of this, the event is less meaningful than you think.

So again, it's true that this event has probability 1/4. But it is not the case that this implies mail-mi gets a bad deal. We know this because, if we simulated the whole experiment (of you flipping a coin, then asking mail-mi to bet), he would actually win the bet half the time, and this is consistent with the fact that the probability for the event above is 1/4.

There's also a reductio ad absurdum of this principle. Say I shuffle deck of cards and put them all in front of me, face-down. I look at one card; it's an eight of clubs. I ask mail-mi to bet on this card being an eight of clubs, at 50/50 odds. From mail-mi's perspective, given that he doesn't know the cards, this is only a 1/52 chance. But of course, he will win the bet every time, so

card is eight of clubs

is not the event that measures how good the bet is for mail-mi. Rather, the correct event is

card is {whatever I've just seen as I've looked at it}

And similarly in your case, the event that matters is

both coins land on {what ashersky is asking} given that the first coin has been flipped but I don't know the result

and that has probability of 1/2.

So I guess, if there's a lesson here, it's something like "if you select an event based on information, but then don't condition on that information, the probability of that event doesn't mean what you think it means".

[cayvie]

this is the sort of probability i feel like i see people mess up all the time in C9++ games or whatever, btw

[cayvie]

i just read lost mafia

 

[cayvie]

is this also the "its monday afternoon can i have a pm pls" f5 f5 f5 thread

i wanna know my district

[MiX]

is this also the "its monday afternoon can i have a pm pls" f5 f5 f5 thread

i wanna know my district

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 Oh hey new post

Yeah I agree cayvie, but no time to post, gotta F5 some more.

F5

[shraeye]

is this also the "its monday afternoon can i have a pm pls" f5 f5 f5 thread

i wanna know my district

Yeah, I feel that

[2.71828.....]

And I am over here in Europe like.... Maybe I get it before going to bed? Maybe? Please?

[cayvie]

i just had a mafia dream where i had to argue why having the role of village made sense in Knight Mafia because it let you play two knights in one turn

[LaLight]

Wanted to share an image of 2000 pieces puzzle I finished on quarantine, because I think it is most awesome

[ashersky]

Wanted to share an image of 2000 pieces puzzle I finished on quarantine, because I think it is most awesome

That just looks like one piece, not 2000.

[LaLight]

Wanted to share an image of 2000 pieces puzzle I finished on quarantine, because I think it is most awesome

That just looks like one piece, not 2000.

for a second you made me think if I accidentally sent a photo of the box

[Awaclus]

Wanted to share an image of 2000 pieces puzzle I finished on quarantine, because I think it is most awesome

That just looks like one piece, not 2000.

That's what puzzles look like when they're completed.

[ashersky]

Wanted to share an image of 2000 pieces puzzle I finished on quarantine, because I think it is most awesome

That just looks like one piece, not 2000.

That's what puzzles look like when they're completed.

I bet that dark wood-grain part that surrounds the colors was extra hard to piece together.

(Sorry, accidentally modified this into your post instead of hitting quote.)

[raerae]

Wanted to share an image of 2000 pieces puzzle I finished on quarantine, because I think it is most awesome

A+ puzzle ya got there, LL. Wowza!!

[WestCoastDidds]

Awesome work, LaLight!

Glooble, he’s gonna need a new puzzle!

[cayvie]

how are y'all doing mental health wise right now?

my anxiety is devastating, i'm glad this forum is here as something else to focus on

[LaLight]

how are y'all doing mental health wise right now?

my anxiety is devastating, i'm glad this forum is here as something else to focus on

I feel the loneliest actually, although there's 3 people with me in an apartment. I play games a lot, I am taking antidepressants and try to talk to people not from home a lot, so I feel less "in a box". I'd say, I am mostly fine, but i really wait for it to be over.

[scolapasta]

how are y'all doing mental health wise right now?

my anxiety is devastating, i'm glad this forum is here as something else to focus on

I feel the loneliest actually, although there's 3 people with me in an apartment. I play games a lot, I am taking antidepressants and try to talk to people not from home a lot, so I feel less "in a box". I'd say, I am mostly fine, but i really wait for it to be over.

Any insight onto what it's like in Moscow? We don't here much from there, as far as I can tell.

[LaLight]

how are y'all doing mental health wise right now?

my anxiety is devastating, i'm glad this forum is here as something else to focus on

I feel the loneliest actually, although there's 3 people with me in an apartment. I play games a lot, I am taking antidepressants and try to talk to people not from home a lot, so I feel less "in a box". I'd say, I am mostly fine, but i really wait for it to be over.

Any insight onto what it's like in Moscow? We don't here much from there, as far as I can tell.

People are at home mostly, there were some news that a lot of cases is hidden and there is really too few sick, so no one knows who to believe and people are pretty scared (at least I am talking about the ones I communicate with)

[LaLight]

I am home since 14th of March, my flatmates from 20eths, my mom was allowed to work from home in the beginning of previous week and I surely know 5-6 people who still have to work from their offices

[faust]

I'm fine for the most part. My flatmate has decided to stay with his partner for the lockdown (it's not really a proper lockdown in Germany), so I'm on my own here, which isn't great. But my girlfriend will be returning early from Oxford on Monday, so there's something to look forward to.

Also me and my friends set up a Minecraft server to hang out while we're all stuck at home.

But I don't worry about the state of the world all that much more than I did before the outbreak.

[LaLight]

frankly, i mostly worry about the state of my country. government bought a system from China which will assign people qr codes if they want to leave home. basically it works this way: if you want to leave home, you register on special website, tell where and why you are going, get assigned the code which you then show to cops if they stop you on the streets. the system is not yet implemented, but it is a bit worrysome, because i'm afraid that after all this pandemic stuff, our government won't easily get rid of the control.

The other thing I am very worried about is the rising level of home abuse in Russia, I've heard stories from people about their neighbours, but then I also had a story with our neighbour, who nearly broke the wall between our apartments and our door, because we were playing piano at 9am. He wasn't even drunk. Also he himself called the cops who took his side of the argument and it was messy. the guy was aggressive af, and he has a wife and a kid at his place. so basically, this is the situation in Russia as I evaluate it

[Awaclus]

My situation has been almost completely unaffected, since my studies were remote, my work was remote, and most of my hobbies and social relationships were remote to begin with.

frankly, i mostly worry about the state of my country. government bought a system from China which will assign people qr codes if they want to leave home. basically it works this way: if you want to leave home, you register on special website, tell where and why you are going, get assigned the code which you then show to cops if they stop you on the streets. the system is not yet implemented, but it is a bit worrysome, because i'm afraid that after all this pandemic stuff, our government won't easily get rid of the control.

The other thing I am very worried about is the rising level of home abuse in Russia, I've heard stories from people about their neighbours, but then I also had a story with our neighbour, who nearly broke the wall between our apartments and our door, because we were playing piano at 9am. He wasn't even drunk. Also he himself called the cops who took his side of the argument and it was messy. the guy was aggressive af, and he has a wife and a kid at his place. so basically, this is the situation in Russia as I evaluate it

Yeah, these are worrying trends everywhere but it definitely seems like Russia has it way worse than most countries.

[WestCoastDidds]

I’m glad that everyone seems like they are staying healthy. I worry about everyone all the time, and that isn’t really helpful for anyone at all.

I’m teaching from home, and DebatePro is working from home, too. We’re tired of the house, but feel lucky to have jobs, financial security, and enough space to change rooms occasionally. We live in a tourist town and so many friends are out of work and who knows how many of the seasonal businesses won’t be able to weather the losses they are taking from being closed. Worry, worry, worry

[raerae]

Just popping into say hi and spread some love (I know Didds has plenty to spare but here's my brand).  I miss you all and I'm glad you're still here and still supporting each other.  You folks are good stuff, keep it up.

[yuma]

Just popping into say hi and spread some love (I know Didds has plenty to spare but here's my brand).  I miss you all and I'm glad you're still here and still supporting each other.  You folks are good stuff, keep it up.

raerea!

[Swowl]

I have just purchased dominoes. like a few thousand. to build a fall down track with galz... like 8 year old's.

I hope everyone is healthy... but omg I am so frickin bored.

[jotheonah]

We  just need two more for Glooble's MacGuffin Mafia! Who's up for it?

[WestCoastDidds]

I have just purchased dominoes. like a few thousand. to build a fall down track with galz... like 8 year old's.

I hope everyone is healthy... but omg I am so frickin bored.

We’re gonnna need video

[Galzria]

Hey, here is some good news! A new, tiny shraerae arrived today!

Congratulations Shraerae!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[cayvie]

Hey, here is some good news! A new, tiny shraerae arrived today!

Congratulations Shraerae!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[ashersky]

Troy and Abed in the moooooooorning...nights...

[LaLight]

Troy and Abed in the moooooooorning...nights...

so, they say movie is finally about to happen at some point!

[skip wooznum]

I finished my re-watch on Netflix a couple days ago.

Now I know the series like the back of my Chang.

[ashersky]

I finished my re-watch on Netflix a couple days ago.

Now I know the series like the back of my Chang.

I'm working my way through it again as well.  I definitely watched season 1-4 multiple changs.  5 and 6 I feel like I don't have a great grasp of.

The cast changes didn't help the show, although I'm Team Winger to the end. 

Dean Pelton is really underapprecideaned, too.

[jotheonah]

Hey, here is some good news! A new, tiny shraerae arrived today!

Congratulations Shraerae!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

Congratulations!

[Swowl]

I have just purchased dominoes. like a few thousand. to build a fall down track with galz... like 8 year old's.

I hope everyone is healthy... but omg I am so frickin bored.

We’re gonnna need video

do I sense a challenge a foot?

[skip wooznum]

żDónde está la biblioteca?
Me llamo T-bone la arańa discoteca.

[LaLight]

I love how love to community is reborn.

Just want to tell the story of the first time I have watched Community. It was 2015, my then-girlfriend was on 2 week vacation in Miami and her grandma suddenly fell ill. I promised to help and live with her for these two weeks at her house, which I of course did. As it was not my house, I really didn't have anything to do in it (it didn't even have a computer and I had no laptop back then), but I had my old iPad. I downloaded Community so I could just watch it and pretty much do nothing else. In a case if I didn't like it, I was screwed, there was no WiFi either.

But of course

I watched all six seasons in three days! And oh my god, I was literally crying when it ended, because I was basically living in Greendale for these three days and it felt like I lost a family.

For the rest 10 days I was rewatching episodes I loved the most.

Now just rewatching it all it was so, so nostalgic and happy!

Also https://hypebeast.com/2020/5/community-reunion-table-read-coronavirus-relief-greendale-college-donald-glover

[WestCoastDidds]

I have just purchased dominoes. like a few thousand. to build a fall down track with galz... like 8 year old's.

I hope everyone is healthy... but omg I am so frickin bored.

We’re gonnna need video

do I sense a challenge a foot?

Ha! I do not have that kind of patience. Or that many dominoes. But I can appreciate the Galzswan domino talent and gush appropriately.

[skip wooznum]

I love how love to community is reborn.

Just want to tell the story of the first time I have watched Community. It was 2015, my then-girlfriend was on 2 week vacation in Miami and her grandma suddenly fell ill. I promised to help and live with her for these two weeks at her house, which I of course did. As it was not my house, I really didn't have anything to do in it (it didn't even have a computer and I had no laptop back then), but I had my old iPad. I downloaded Community so I could just watch it and pretty much do nothing else. In a case if I didn't like it, I was screwed, there was no WiFi either.

But of course

I watched all six seasons in three days! And oh my god, I was literally crying when it ended, because I was basically living in Greendale for these three days and it felt like I lost a family.

For the rest 10 days I was rewatching episodes I loved the most.

Now just rewatching it all it was so, so nostalgic and happy!

Also https://hypebeast.com/2020/5/community-reunion-table-read-coronavirus-relief-greendale-college-donald-glover

pop pop!!

[skip wooznum]

So rewatching community, i realised something interesting about myself and how I relate to the characters on tv.

Question for community fans: What was, for you, the saddest moment of the show? For me it was season 4 episode 3 when Pierce joins the American inspector spacetime focus group, and totally kills the American version of abed's favorite show.  It's pretty funny how something that's ultimately very low stakes made that large an impact on me, such that I still remember it as being very sad.

[Swowl]

Posting this in a few different locations just so it is known to the community:

I am switching my handle name from "DatSwan" to "Swowl".
I will make sure to start the next several games I am in with clarifying that it is me so no one thinks otherwise.

[WestCoastDidds]

Posting this in a few different locations just so it is known to the community:

I am switching my handle name from "DatSwan" to "Swowl".
I will make sure to start the next several games I am in with clarifying that it is me so no one thinks otherwise.

[Awaclus]

[Swowl]

Didds, your meme is appreciated and loved.
However...

Awaclus this is just the best dude hahaha

[WestCoastDidds]

You gotta respect the stick!

[Calamitas]

But I don't worry about the state of the world all that much more than I did before the outbreak.

I am curious, do you mean that you usually worry a lot about the state of the world or that you don’t even now? If it’s the former, I can very much relate

[jotheonah]

Happy belated Canada Day to all the Canadians here! Do we have any Canadians?

[Archetype]

Will be primarily on mobile from 7/11-7/17

[jotheonah]

Are there zero games in signups right now?

[WestCoastDidds]

Are there zero games in signups right now?

You could fix this for us!

[mail-mi]

Are there zero games in signups right now?

You could fix this for us!

So could you! Have you ever modded a game, Didds?

[WestCoastDidds]

Are there zero games in signups right now?

You could fix this for us!

So could you! Have you ever modded a game, Didds?

No! It seems intimidating.

[mail-mi]

Are there zero games in signups right now?

You could fix this for us!

So could you! Have you ever modded a game, Didds?

No! It seems intimidating.

I quite enjoy modding, and I'm planning on opening a new game once Marvel is over. Would you like to comod to see if you'd like it?

[jotheonah]

I just posted signups for a game. It looks like a pretty small and quick one, so others should feel free to post signups as well.

[WestCoastDidds]

Are there zero games in signups right now?

You could fix this for us!

So could you! Have you ever modded a game, Didds?

No! It seems intimidating.

I quite enjoy modding, and I'm planning on opening a new game once Marvel is over. Would you like to comod to see if you'd like it?

Sure!

[jotheonah]

1 more signup and we can launch Voyager!

[EFHW]

/tag

[WestCoastDidds]

Refresh, refresh, refresh

[Awaclus]

I'd join a game if there was a reasonably sized RMM/BM/normal setup without many VTs. I don't like playing as VT that much because VTs can't perform any game actions without a consensus, so I have fewer opportunities to affect the course of the game, and if there's too many people, I can't keep track of everything and play sloppily.

[EFHW]

I need a partner for Codenames VIII if anyone is interested.

[WestCoastDidds]

I just watched the social dilemma on Netflix and I have to say....I’m super grateful to play with real people on a platform that isn’t trying to mine my attention. Y’all are awesome!

[Eevee]

I just watched the social dilemma on Netflix and I have to say....I’m super grateful to play with real people on a platform that isn’t trying to mine my attention. Y’all are awesome!

This definitely is a top-notch online community. Thanks ya'll, really appreciate everyone of you  <3 It's a special thing we have going here.
 Unrelated, all the US people, please vote!

[Galzria]

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to everybody!!!!

I hope everyone is able to figure out the holidays with friends & family this year! 😘😘😘

[Robz888]

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to everybody!!!!

I hope everyone is able to figure out the holidays with friends & family this year! 😘😘😘

Yes, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

I'm looking forward to getting back into mafia and Dominion in the new year. (Just have to finish writing a book in the meantime, gulp.)

[Eevee]

Please plug the book here when you're done, I'd want to read it for sure. Big fan of your work.

Merry christmas and happy holidays robz, galzria and everyone else! Very cold in northern Finland, nothing like -34 celsius temperatures to put you in the holiday mood.

[ashersky]

In honor of the Dune movie coming out this year, I was thinking of creating another installment to my RMM series.

Also, I've got plans for a Stargate RMM.

[jotheonah]

oooh I'm really into Stargate right now. Would it be based on

The movie?
SG-1?
Atlantis?
Universe?
All or some of the above?

[ashersky]

oooh I'm really into Stargate right now. Would it be based on

The movie?
SG-1?
Atlantis?
Universe?
All or some of the above?

I've watch all of it (except I think the last made-for-tv movie).

Currently re-watching since they added SG-1 to Netflix.  I would base it on SG-1 during the Goa'uld Arc.

[jotheonah]

I was hoping it would be based on SG-1, with the original dream team.

[ashersky]

I was hoping it would be based on SG-1, with the original dream team.

I can’t overstate how big a fan I was of SG-1.  The stories and characters have held up much better than the CGI.  Also, so many guest stars and such that went on to be famous.  Morena Baccarin was on before she got huge.

[scolapasta]

I was hoping it would be based on SG-1, with the original dream team.

I can’t overstate how big a fan I was of SG-1.  The stories and characters have held up much better than the CGI.  Also, so many guest stars and such that went on to be famous.  Morena Baccarin was on before she got huge.

She was on Firefly before SG-1, though. I don't know, that made her famous to me, at least.

[ashersky]

I was hoping it would be based on SG-1, with the original dream team.

I can’t overstate how big a fan I was of SG-1.  The stories and characters have held up much better than the CGI.  Also, so many guest stars and such that went on to be famous.  Morena Baccarin was on before she got huge.

She was on Firefly before SG-1, though. I don't know, that made her famous to me, at least.

Best we not discuss Firefly, lest a majority of the forum ends up hating me for thinking it was tremendously overrated.

But you are right that she was there first and would have developed a devoted following from it.  I still don’t really thinking of her blowing up until like the V reboot and the non-sci fi terrorism show she did. 

[jotheonah]

Apparently, it's night. How's everyone doing?

[WestCoastDidds]

Apparently, it's night. How's everyone doing?

And this is where we talk at night!!!

I’m supposed to be grading midterms. I hate grading. It’s the worst. The WORST! So, instead I think we might go play pickleball and drink beer.

How was house hunting??

[jotheonah]

We found one we liked, so we put in an offer. Now just gotta hope we get it.

[WestCoastDidds]

Fingers crossed!

[gkrieg13]

Apparently, it's night. How's everyone doing?

And this is where we talk at night!!!

I’m supposed to be grading midterms. I hate grading. It’s the worst. The WORST! So, instead I think we might go play pickleball and drink beer.

How was house hunting??

Wow, playing pickleball and drinking beer sounds like the dream right now.

[Galzria]

I had a beer inside a bar Saturday night. It was wild.

[gkrieg13]

I had a beer inside a bar Saturday night. It was wild.

Sounds crazy and fun!

[WestCoastDidds]

Apparently, it's night. How's everyone doing?

And this is where we talk at night!!!

I’m supposed to be grading midterms. I hate grading. It’s the worst. The WORST! So, instead I think we might go play pickleball and drink beer.

How was house hunting??

Wow, playing pickleball and drinking beer sounds like the dream right now.

It was amazing!!  All outside, sunny but not hot.  There ever aren't enough awesome Sundays.

[shraeye]

What's new?

[Robz888]

What's new?

Not a lot with me. I got a breakthrough covid case, but luckily I felt better after like just one day.

Here I am talking about it on CNN: https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/08/01/robby-soave-on-his-own-breakthrough-covid-case.cnn

As a consequence, I've been quarantining by myself and spending a LOT more time online. I browsed a ton of old forum posts. Hi everybody!

How've you been?

[WestCoastDidds]

What's new?

Dude! Hi hi hi hi hi hi hi!

[WestCoastDidds]

Rob, I’m glad you’re feeling better!

[ehunt]

What's new?

Not a lot with me. I got a breakthrough covid case, but luckily I felt better after like just one day.

Here I am talking about it on CNN: https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/08/01/robby-soave-on-his-own-breakthrough-covid-case.cnn

As a consequence, I've been quarantining by myself and spending a LOT more time online. I browsed a ton of old forum posts. Hi everybody!

How've you been?

I read that article and thought about DMing you but decided it was weird.

[Robz888]

Rob, I’m glad you’re feeling better!

Thank you!

[Robz888]

What's new?

Not a lot with me. I got a breakthrough covid case, but luckily I felt better after like just one day.

Here I am talking about it on CNN: https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/08/01/robby-soave-on-his-own-breakthrough-covid-case.cnn

As a consequence, I've been quarantining by myself and spending a LOT more time online. I browsed a ton of old forum posts. Hi everybody!

How've you been?

I read that article and thought about DMing you but decided it was weird.

Not weird at all!

[Isis]

no one ever sends me weird DMs qq

[iguanaiguana]

[Swowl]

I missed you so much

[WestCoastDidds]

This is everything!

[Jimmmmm]

The sports team I follow just picked up a player named Max Lynch. Apparently they call him Maximum Lunch. It'll be weird not calling him Max Exile.

[WestCoastDidds]

The sports team I follow just picked up a player named Max Lynch. Apparently they call him Maximum Lunch. It'll be weird not calling him Max Exile.

Yeah, you are clearly obligated to call him MaxEx from now on. Also, "Maximum Exile" could be the new name for LynchPool....

[Jimmmmm]

Also, "Maximum Exile" could be the new name for LynchPool....

Thanks, I'll add it to the very short list! Naming things is like the hardest thing ever.

[Awaclus]

[WestCoastDidds]

Holy smokes. What is this?! It can’t possibly be good since it’s scum candy!

[Awaclus]

Holy smokes. What is this?! It can’t possibly be good since it’s scum candy!

Foam Santas. They're like hard, chewy marshmallows shaped like Santa Claus.

[WestCoastDidds]

Foam Santas. They're like hard, chewy marshmallows shaped like Santa Claus.

Sadly, I’d probably like those!

[jotheonah]

Guys, Andrew Garfield is one of us. He kept bringing up werewolf/mafia when he was answering questions about whether he was in Spider-man. I think that's kinda awesome.

[WestCoastDidds]

That is awesome!

[scolapasta]

This new reality tv show has hints of mafia to it:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2022/04/29/psychological-thriller-and-hit-competition-reality-series-the-traitors-lands-at-peacock-113310/20220429peacock01/

[ashersky]

Was Robz’s appearance on John Oliver’s show noted yet?

[Eevee]

Was Robz’s appearance on John Oliver’s show noted yet?

Which episode?

Very cool, my two favorites!

[ashersky]

Was Robz’s appearance on John Oliver’s show noted yet?

Which episode?

Very cool, my two favorites!

Crime Reporting — it was on last week and is on YouTube!

[Robz888]

Was Robz’s appearance on John Oliver’s show noted yet?

Which episode?

Very cool, my two favorites!

Crime Reporting — it was on last week and is on YouTube!

As I noted here, I was not super happy about it... it was clipped/framed in such a way as to make me sound pretty pro-police, when I'm actually very in favor of criminal justice reform. Oh well!

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1579467279368351744

[Robz888]

Also... hi, everybody! It's been awhile. I had to reset/update my computer or something, and it logged me out of the Forums, and then I didn't sign back in for a while. But I miss you all! I think my two in-person D&D groups have largely consumed the excess time I had for mafia and forum stuff, though I'm still playing a good amount of Dominion.

[Cuzz]

Is this forum dead now? I was just thinking I might actually have time to sign up for a game in a few months, but it seems, uh, there may not be any.

[J Reggie]

Seems we need mods to start a game

[jotheonah]

I asked ChatGPT to invent some new mafia roles. Um.

Sure, here are some new character roles that can be used in the parlor game "Mafia":

Doctor: The doctor has the ability to protect one player each night from being killed by the mafia. The doctor cannot protect themselves and can only use their ability once per night.

Vigilante: The vigilante is a civilian with a gun who can choose to shoot one player each night. If the player they shoot is a member of the mafia, they are eliminated. However, if they shoot a civilian, they are immediately eliminated from the game.

Spy: The spy is a member of the civilian team who can investigate one player each night to see if they are part of the mafia. The spy receives a "yes" or "no" answer from the game moderator, indicating whether the player investigated is a member of the mafia or not.

Lawyer: The lawyer is a member of the civilian team who can protect one player from being voted out during the day. The player they protect cannot be voted out, even if they receive the most votes.

Hacker: The hacker is a member of the mafia who can change the identity of one player each night, making them appear to be a member of the mafia or a civilian. The identity change lasts for one round.

Jester: The jester is a wildcard character who wins if they are voted out during the day. Their goal is to act suspicious and try to get the other players to vote them out.

Oracle: The oracle is a member of the civilian team who can see the role of one player each night, including their character name and abilities. This information is kept secret and the oracle must use their knowledge wisely.

Executioner: The executioner is a member of the civilian team who can choose to execute one player each night. If the player they execute is a member of the mafia, they are eliminated. However, if they execute a civilian, they are immediately eliminated from the game.

These are just a few ideas for new character roles that can add variety and complexity to the game of Mafia. Players can mix and match roles to create their own unique game experiences.

[jotheonah]

I kind of want to run a ChatGPT mafia where I make it write all the flavor text. This is what it came up with when I asked it for an introduction. It's bland, but not bad:

Certainly! Here's a paragraph of introductory flavor text for a game of Mafia:

It's a dark and stormy night in the small town of Salem. The villagers have gathered at the town hall for a meeting to discuss the recent string of mysterious deaths that have been occurring in their community. The rumors of a dangerous mafia presence have been circulating, and tensions are running high. As the meeting begins, the villagers are on edge, each one wondering if they can trust the person sitting next to them. The fate of the town rests on their ability to identify and eliminate the mafia members before it's too late. Who can be trusted, and who is hiding a dark secret? It's up to the villagers to find out, before the town falls into chaos and destruction.

[WestCoastDidds]

I kind of want to run a ChatGPT mafia where I make it write all the flavor text. This is what it came up with when I asked it for an introduction. It's bland, but not bad:

Certainly! Here's a paragraph of introductory flavor text for a game of Mafia:

It's a dark and stormy night in the small town of Salem. The villagers have gathered at the town hall for a meeting to discuss the recent string of mysterious deaths that have been occurring in their community. The rumors of a dangerous mafia presence have been circulating, and tensions are running high. As the meeting begins, the villagers are on edge, each one wondering if they can trust the person sitting next to them. The fate of the town rests on their ability to identify and eliminate the mafia members before it's too late. Who can be trusted, and who is hiding a dark secret? It's up to the villagers to find out, before the town falls into chaos and destruction.

Silverspawn did a GPT-2 game back in the day (it was Debatepro’s first real game) but the tech is way better now,

[Robz888]

I was bored at looking through some of the older mafia games, which took place 10 years ago! Doesn't seem like it's been that long.

[Cuzz]

I was bored at looking through some of the older mafia games, which took place 10 years ago! Doesn't seem like it's been that long.

Good times