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[Eevee]

Since someone is going to be bring it up anyways, should we just agree on no claiming theory talk to avoid someone tipping off their role? If you agree, no reason to comment on this.

[pacovf]

vote: J Reggie because claiming non-tracker is as good a reason as any to vote for someone this early into the game.

I hadn't read the setup before /in-ing, but after being assigned scum for the briefest of times, I kind of read it in detail.

Ha! Now you can't use the "fact" that reading the setup is scummy against me, I have the perfect alibi! :p

Also nice to see some old faces around.

[teamlyle]

Hi everyone. Redemption time for me! (I swear, if someone calls me out for being "scummy" for some silly reason I'm going to be so done.)

Vote: Eevee

Gl all!

[gkrieg13]

Hi everyone. Redemption time for me! (I swear, if someone calls me out for being "scummy" for some silly reason I'm going to be so done.)

Vote: Eevee

Gl all!

Using 2 exclamation points?  Super scummy )))))

[J Reggie]

Claiming non-tracker for no reason is a good reason to vote this early.

It's not for no reason. I have a reason.

[Witherweaver]

Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO.

[Witherweaver]

vote: WW

Also this will be my first time not being mafia in a 9++ setup

Vote: Gkrieg

[J Reggie]

vote: WW

Also this will be my first time not being mafia in a 9++ setup

This is straight up not true. But considering the deathproof town thing in rewind, it's not alignment-indicative.

[Eevee]

Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO.

Interesting. I see no reason not to believe this.

[gkrieg13]

vote: WW

Also this will be my first time not being mafia in a 9++ setup

This is straight up not true. But considering the deathproof town thing in rewind, it's not alignment-indicative.

Wait is it really not true?

[pacovf]

Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO.

Interesting. I see no reason not to believe this.

Could be mafia preemptively explaining their survival through the game though.

[Robz888]

Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO.

Hmm, well now we have to discuss whether it would make sense for town to claim this. The PGO reflexively kills whomever targets them, right? I guess this protects our town PRs, but it also tips off the scum. Not sure confessing was the pro-town thing to do. But on the other hand I don't really see scum!WW starting off the game like this.

[Robz888]

Good morning everyone! :-)

Vote: mcmcsalot (Hi! I don't think we've met!)

For those who don't know, mcmcsalot is another one of our super vets back from retirement. He is my younger brother in real life.

[Eevee]

So, while we wait, anyone have any opinions on how 1-shot PGO should be played?

I feel it's a role with a lot of possibilites.

"Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO."

This if from before the game began.

[pacovf]

Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO.

Hmm, well now we have to discuss whether it would make sense for town to claim this. The PGO reflexively kills whomever targets them, right? I guess this protects our town PRs, but it also tips off the scum. Not sure confessing was the pro-town thing to do. But on the other hand I don't really see scum!WW starting off the game like this.

Note that it takes a single extra letter being rolled for a revealed 1-shot PGO to be useless, since mafia gets both a roleblocker and a 1-shot ninja.

If he is town, I guess he is claiming to get the conversation started.

[pacovf]

So, while we wait, anyone have any opinions on how 1-shot PGO should be played?

I feel it's a role with a lot of possibilites.

"Hi guys; I'm a one-shot PGO."

This if from before the game began.

Lying town is anti-town, so I hope that's not it.

[Robz888]

Since someone is going to be bring it up anyways, should we just agree on no claiming theory talk to avoid someone tipping off their role? If you agree, no reason to comment on this.

Okay, so I automatically agreed with everything Eevee said in the last game because... we were scum together. Not letting you off so easily this time, buddy.

What did you mean by the above statement? I didn't understand.

I personally wouldn't mind a little discussion of the setup. I'm curious what people think of these weirdo voting roles. They haven't made an appearance in any game thus far (during my absence), have they?

[silverspawn]

For those who don't know, mcmcsalot is another one of our super vets back from retirement. He is my younger brother in real life.

I did not know that!

Hmm, well now we have to discuss whether it would make sense for town to claim this.

It has the downside of giving scum additional information
It has the upside of helping with claims later, and also of bypassing RVS – hopefully.

For PGO, the downside may be very low. The upside isn't huge either, but it could be good.

Since it is WW doing it I wouldn't expect a utility calculation anyway, though, so since there are reasonable upsides, I think it is definitely possible as a town move. I don't think scum has that much motivation for this kind of fakeclaim, so I'll even give him townpoints.

[silverspawn]

with "it could be good" I meant "the entire package could be good".

[Robz888]

Seems like a solid analysis, silverspawn.

[J Reggie]

vote: WW

Also this will be my first time not being mafia in a 9++ setup

This is straight up not true. But considering the deathproof town thing in rewind, it's not alignment-indicative.

Wait is it really not true?

Scout mafia.

Also, I feel like its more likely for you to think you've been mafia in every 9++ game if you're mafia here. vote: gkrieg

[gkrieg13]

vote: WW

Also this will be my first time not being mafia in a 9++ setup

This is straight up not true. But considering the deathproof town thing in rewind, it's not alignment-indicative.

Wait is it really not true?

Scout mafia.

Also, I feel like its more likely for you to think you've been mafia in every 9++ game if you're mafia here. vote: gkrieg

You are correct. It is something I thought about when I drew scum. So now I thought of it again because I'm town and am actually excited to be town.

[Eevee]

Since someone is going to be bring it up anyways, should we just agree on no claiming theory talk to avoid someone tipping off their role? If you agree, no reason to comment on this.

Okay, so I automatically agreed with everything Eevee said in the last game because... we were scum together. Not letting you off so easily this time, buddy.

What did you mean by the above statement? I didn't understand.

I personally wouldn't mind a little discussion of the setup. I'm curious what people think of these weirdo voting roles. They haven't made an appearance in any game thus far (during my absence), have they?

The pleasure is all mine!

I feel mafia usually gets something out of the claiming discussion when people inadvertently let something slip about their roles. If we want to have setup discussion, that's the trade-off.

[mcmcsalot]

I don't think it's super likely for scum!ww to decides o put himself out there so early for no reason.

Also I agree eevee's statement about no claiming is worrying. Unlike ww's claim, scum!eeve benefits from seeming like he's helping town whilst killing potential discussions that get the game started.

vote: eevee

[mcmcsalot]

Good morning everyone! :-)

Vote: mcmcsalot (Hi! I don't think we've met!)

Hi I don't believe we have eithe. Wonderful to play with you, quick question are you a dirty mafia member.