Topic: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back (Read 31791 times)

Galzria · « **Reply #100 on:** July 13, 2012, 05:16:06 pm »

Robz, Qvist, and Axxle:

Will any of you be assigning me to your proposals if it gets to you? If not, this is my second choice and will vote yes here.

Robz888 · « **Reply #101 on:** July 13, 2012, 05:41:15 pm »

I will again propose myself and Qvist if this mission fails.

Axxle · « **Reply #102 on:** July 13, 2012, 05:48:27 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on July 13, 2012, 05:16:06 pm

Robz, Qvist, and Axxle:

Will any of you be assigning me to your proposals if it gets to you? If not, this is my second choice and will vote yes here.

No. This is a top choice of team for the mission, and I'd rather have Robz distributing the cards than anyone else (besides myself of course) at the moment.

ftl · « **Reply #103 on:** July 13, 2012, 05:52:25 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on July 13, 2012, 04:53:58 pm

##Propose Team: Qvist and Robz888

By the way, there's a big logic puzzle here.

Right now, we know that

1) IF Robz = Spy, THEN Qvist = Spy.

Which implies its contrapositive,

1a) IF Qvist = Resistance, THEN Robz = Resistance.

It seems unlikely that we'll get enough information from cards to completely solve the game, but it still seems useful to keep track of this stuff.

Yep. The possibilities are: Qvist and Robz both spies; Qvist and Robz both resistance; Robz resistance and Qvist spy is still possible, there's some WIFOM as to whether Qvist would have gone for that or whether he would have just called Robz a spy.

I'll probably vote for this unless someone plans to resurrect the team of me and Robz, which seems unlikely, I certainly wouldn't do that as resistance if I wasn't me. Though maybe I should vote against it and see what happens, presumably Robz and Qvist would propose the same team when they get their choices and I'll have another chance to approve it. But that wouldn't accomplish anything besides wasting time...

...well, Robz just said he'd be proposing it again, and he's next.

Quote from: Axxle on July 13, 2012, 05:48:27 pm

I'd rather have Robz distributing the cards than anyone else (besides myself of course) at the moment.

...oh, wow, good point. I'll probably be voting for this, then.

Galzria · « **Reply #104 on:** July 13, 2012, 05:57:55 pm »

Alright, I don't have Qvists response, but Axxle makes a fair point, and honestly, if Qvist proposed anything else (since he's indicated he liked this team in the past):
## Vote: Yes

cayvie · « **Reply #105 on:** July 13, 2012, 06:30:41 pm »

I sent in a yes vote as well.

cayvie · « **Reply #106 on:** July 13, 2012, 06:37:23 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on July 13, 2012, 05:57:55 pm

Alright, I don't have Qvists response, but Axxle makes a fair point, and honestly, if Qvist proposed anything else (since he's indicated he liked this team in the past):
## Vote: Yes

Is that an incomplete sentence?

Galzria · « **Reply #107 on:** July 13, 2012, 06:57:17 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on July 13, 2012, 06:37:23 pm

Quote from: Galzria on July 13, 2012, 05:57:55 pm
Alright, I don't have Qvists response, but Axxle makes a fair point, and honestly, if Qvist proposed anything else (since he's indicated he liked this team in the past):
## Vote: Yes

Is that an incomplete sentence?

Err, yeah, but it was supposed to end "I'd be shocked", but I lost my train of thought after the parenthetical.

cayvie · « **Reply #108 on:** July 13, 2012, 07:04:55 pm »

Okay, limited weekend availability for me until Sunday.

Grujah · « **Reply #109 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:13:21 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on July 13, 2012, 05:41:15 pm

I will again propose myself and Qvist if this mission fails.

I though you cannot propose same team twice? Or did I just get that wrong from somewhere?

Tables · « **Reply #110 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:27:17 pm »

The same team can be proposed any number of times. The only restriction on proposals is that the Resistance auto-loses if the 5th proposal is voted down (I will thus assume everyone votes yes unless there are reasons (e.g. plot cards) to do otherwise)

Qvist · « **Reply #111 on:** July 14, 2012, 01:35:51 am »

After Robz, I'm the leader. I will propose Robz and me too. I think we can save the time and vote yes.

Tables · « **Reply #112 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:08:41 am »

Mission 1.2 proposed by: Cayvie:
Team Proposed: Robz888, Qvist
Voting YES: ftl, Cayvie, Robz888, Qvist, Axxle, Grujah, Galzria
Voting NO: None
Result: Yes - 7, No - 0
Proposal passes

Spies: Please send your mission decision for this mission. Resistance: You will automatically co-operate with this

Tables · « **Reply #113 on:** July 15, 2012, 04:54:15 am »

It's not 24 hours, but it's close enough.

Mission 1 Results
Co-operating: 2
Sabotage: 0
Mission succeeds. Score is now Resistance - 1, Spies - 0

Leadership passes to Robz888 who draws Take Responsibility and Keeping a Close Eye on You

Tables · « **Reply #114 on:** July 15, 2012, 04:58:31 am »

Now also seems a good time to highlight that mission 4 requires TWO fail cards. eHalcyon suggested I highlight this in case anybody missed it.

cayvie · « **Reply #115 on:** July 15, 2012, 05:01:04 am »

I have a rules question.

Can someone Take Responsibility for Robz's Open Up card?

Robz888 · « **Reply #116 on:** July 15, 2012, 02:04:49 pm »

Any suggestions for who I should give these things to? I'm not actually sure I understand Keeping A Close Eye on You.

Unfortunately for me, I think the person most cleared so far is myself, so I am open to suggestions for a distribution of these cards that most strongly benefits the Resistance.

cayvie · « **Reply #117 on:** July 15, 2012, 02:23:52 pm »

Well, if I can use Take Responsibility on Open Up, I promise to do that, and then to Open Up to you, Robz.

cayvie · « **Reply #118 on:** July 15, 2012, 02:27:44 pm »

I think that you hand KACEOY to someone, then they hold onto it until a mission fails. Then they can look at how one person voted. Maybe?

Robz888 · « **Reply #119 on:** July 15, 2012, 02:45:51 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on July 15, 2012, 02:23:52 pm

Well, if I can use Take Responsibility on Open Up, I promise to do that, and then to Open Up to you, Robz.

If we can do this, then yes this sounds good.

ftl · « **Reply #120 on:** July 15, 2012, 02:53:01 pm »

For reference, from the images in Table's earlier link:

"Keeping a Close Eye on You": "You may look at one played Mission card".
I believe that the way this works, after a mission, you can use it to look at one person's vote.

"Take Responsibility": "You must take a plot card from another player" .
I'm not sure whether this applies to plot cards already used up. If it applies to one-time use ones that have already been used up, then I think it's obvious that using it a a second copy of "open up" is the best course around. Of course, I'd rather have it than cayvie, or, even better, give it to somebody closer along the line of succession; Cayvie's not going to be proposing any missions for some time, better use that on someone who's coming up in a bit. So maybe Grujah or Axxle.

If you can't use it to redo 'open up', then all it does is pass around the Opinion Maker or maybe the "Keeping a Close Eye on You" if it applies to that.

Tables · « **Reply #121 on:** July 15, 2012, 03:13:46 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on July 15, 2012, 05:01:04 am

I have a rules question.

Can someone Take Responsibility for Robz's Open Up card?

No. Once a plot card is used, it is discarded.

KaCEoY: This must be used during the mission submission phase, before the target submits their mission card.
Take Responsibility: This must be used immediately (after all plot cards are distributed). It must therefore immediately take Opinion Maker or KaCEoY.

Robz888 · « **Reply #122 on:** July 15, 2012, 03:26:12 pm »

Quote from: Tables on July 15, 2012, 03:13:46 pm

Quote from: cayvie on July 15, 2012, 05:01:04 am
I have a rules question.

Can someone Take Responsibility for Robz's Open Up card?

No. Once a plot card is used, it is discarded.

KaCEoY: This must be used during the mission submission phase, before the target submits their mission card.
Take Responsibility: This must be used immediately (after all plot cards are distributed). It must therefore immediately take Opinion Maker or KaCEoY.

So I give TR to someone and that person immediately takes Opinion Maker or KACEoY?

Tables · « **Reply #123 on:** July 15, 2012, 04:00:08 pm »

Yes (after also giving out KaCEoY)

(It's even more fun when it's the first plot card drawn in a 5-6 player game)

ftl · « **Reply #124 on:** July 15, 2012, 04:16:01 pm »

Well, then no sense deliberating, IMO. Robz give them out to people you trust, or like, or want to find out more about.

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