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[theory]

I'll be taking the forum down for about 20 minutes in about 24 hours. 

If you have a life-support system hooked up to the forum, please look into alternative arrangements.

[Burning Skull]

Thank you for telling that in advance.
The time was just enough to rewrite all Scout, Mine and           jokes on paper!

[theory]

Given that the forum's been having issues all day I'm just going to go ahead and do this now.  See you on the other side!

[theory]

We're back!  The hosting service promises that this will make the forum way faster and more reliable.

[Ozle]

We're back!  The hosting service promises that this will make the forum way faster and more reliable.

They lie...

[theory]

Though seriously if you could all let me know if the forum is better or worse that'd be great.  In my experience it feels approximately a million billion times faster.

[Joseph2302]

Though seriously if you could all let me know if the forum is better or worse that'd be great.  In my experience it feels approximately a million billion times faster.

I was having serious problems getting onto the forum yesterday (Thursday) before the reboot thing. Mean loading time was about 15 seconds (although it took about 2 minutes to open 1 page), it's now completely fine, everything is loading immediately.

[werothegreat]

Wiki page article load times seem to be *much* faster!

[Deadlock39]

It seems faster to me since the reboot.

[pacovf]

Given that the forum's been having issues all day I'm just going to go ahead and do this now.  See you on the other side!

No!! Too soon!!! I hadn't taken care of my life support systems yet, now I won't *splurt!*

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

It is loads faster. 

[Witherweaver]

Though seriously if you could all let me know if the forum is better or worse that'd be great.  In my experience it feels approximately a million billion times faster.

I would like to see some benchmarking on this estimation.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Though seriously if you could all let me know if the forum is better or worse that'd be great.  In my experience it feels approximately a million billion times faster.

I would like to see some benchmarking on this estimation.

I assumed he was using Goko/MF loading times as the benchmark.

[Witherweaver]

Though seriously if you could all let me know if the forum is better or worse that'd be great.  In my experience it feels approximately a million billion times faster.

I would like to see some benchmarking on this estimation.

I assumed he was using Goko/MF loading times as the benchmark.

That checks out.  A million billion times is correct.

[Seprix]

Though seriously if you could all let me know if the forum is better or worse that'd be great.  In my experience it feels approximately a million billion times faster.

I would like to see some benchmarking on this estimation.

I assumed he was using Goko/MF loading times as the benchmark.

[theory]

Is it just me or has the forum started slowing down again?

[Qvist]

Is it just me or has the forum started slowing down again?

Not just you. The forum is slow for me since the previews started.

[Deadlock39]

I've noticed it too... I just assumed heavy traffic due to the previews.

[theory]

Odd because it's not really an unprecedented traffic load.  I just rebooted.  Maybe now it's better?

[qmech]

Odd because it's not really an unprecedented traffic load.  I just rebooted.  Maybe now it's better?

Not a huge amount.  I only really notice problems when the previews are very new.

[Kirian]

Odd because it's not really an unprecedented traffic load.  I just rebooted.  Maybe now it's better?

Not a huge amount.  I only really notice problems when the previews are very new.

This.  The whole forum slows down as everyone tries to post in the preview threads... then back to normal a couple hours later.

[Joseph2302]

Been pretty bad last 30 minutes, not noticed any problems for weeks before then.

[Roadrunner7671]

.

[Seprix]

.

y

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

^

[Witherweaver]

It was almost the anniversary of this.

[AdamH]

I missed you guys. Group hug?

[enfynet]

Yeah, I suppose.

[yuma]

I missed you guys. Group hug?

We have tried those before.

It got weird...

I am up for a group hug!
Watch those roving hands though!

I don't want your dirty hug if those hands are roaming around like wild bison!

[AdamH]

Attendance is optional, then.

[Titandrake]

I didn't realize how often I habitually visit these forums until it went down...

[Roadrunner7671]

For approximately 36 hours, the curse of this forum had been lifted. I could finally step outside and live my life to the fullest! I was productive! I was happier than I'd been in years! Then the forum came back online.
[Non-serious]

[werothegreat]

So, uh, what happened there, exactly?

[Awaclus]

So, uh, what happened there, exactly?

The forum was down for a while and this has been the longest day in recent memory even though I just woke up 3 hours ago.

[Joseph2302]

So, uh, what happened there, exactly?

The forum was down for a while and this has been the longest day in recent memory even though I just woke up 3 hours ago.

Same for me between 9 and 13 UK time (4 and 8 am forum time).

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[Davio]

I went outside so I didn't even notice.

[jsh357]

I went outside so I didn't even notice.

My thread is working!

[2.71828.....]

I was at work the entire time the forum was down. Yeah, I noticed it being down

[theory]

It went down again just now!  Frustratingly (and also not frustratingly), as I was trying to fix it, it fixed itself.  Like, literally it said, "ALL YOUR MESSAGES ARE GONE", and as I was panicking and trying to figure out what it meant, and how I could make it not be true, and fix it, it then decided "ACTUALLY JUST KIDDING HERE IS YOUR FORUM".

I will never understand how this forum works. 

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[werothegreat]

It went down again just now!  Frustratingly (and also not frustratingly), as I was trying to fix it, it fixed itself.  Like, literally it said, "ALL YOUR MESSAGES ARE GONE", and as I was panicking and trying to figure out what it meant, and how I could make it not be true, and fix it, it then decided "ACTUALLY JUST KIDDING HERE IS YOUR FORUM".

I will never understand how this forum works.

What I don't understand is why the forum and the wiki go down, but your blog stays up.

[Seprix]

It went down again just now!  Frustratingly (and also not frustratingly), as I was trying to fix it, it fixed itself.  Like, literally it said, "ALL YOUR MESSAGES ARE GONE", and as I was panicking and trying to figure out what it meant, and how I could make it not be true, and fix it, it then decided "ACTUALLY JUST KIDDING HERE IS YOUR FORUM".

I will never understand how this forum works.

What I don't understand is why the forum and the wiki go down, but your blog stays up.

Different servers, no doubt.

[GendoIkari]

It went down again just now!  Frustratingly (and also not frustratingly), as I was trying to fix it, it fixed itself.  Like, literally it said, "ALL YOUR MESSAGES ARE GONE", and as I was panicking and trying to figure out what it meant, and how I could make it not be true, and fix it, it then decided "ACTUALLY JUST KIDDING HERE IS YOUR FORUM".

I will never understand how this forum works.

All I'm gonna say is that if the site goes down as new Empires Previews are posted, there will be hell to pay.

[Awaclus]

All I'm gonna say is that if the site goes down as new Empires Previews are posted, there will be hell to pay.

Is hell a new kind of currency kind of like the debt?

[werothegreat]

All I'm gonna say is that if the site goes down as new Empires Previews are posted, there will be hell to pay.

Is hell a new kind of currency kind of like the debt?

Hell is orthogonal to costs in , , and

[Seprix]

All I'm gonna say is that if the site goes down as new Empires Previews are posted, there will be hell to pay.

Is hell a new kind of currency kind of like the debt?

Debt is hell, and you have hell to pay. Plus, red hexagons just scream Lucifer. It's not a pentagon, but it's close enough for me. Dominion: Empires also has a Roman theme, and Nero was a Roman Emperor, who is considered to be a big candidate for the Antichrist. Also, if you squint and look at the Dominion: Empires box, you can see this...



ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED.

[qmech]

All I'm gonna say is that if the site goes down as new Empires Previews are posted, there will be hell to pay.

Is hell a new kind of currency kind of like the debt?

Hell is orthogonal to costs in , , and

Ah, there's the extra dimension in the quaternions.

[Davio]

I keep thinking the forum is down, but it's just a natural DoS due to the Empires Previews.

I guess we have a lot of extra lurkers coming this way?

[Joseph2302]

Forum is really slow today- couldn't get on for 2 hours.

[Watno]

I couldnt get on for like 15 hours

[theory]

Yeah ... something weird is going on.  I hope I have banished the demons for now.

[Seprix]

Yeah ... something weird is going on.  I hope I have banished the demons for now.

It's those darn red debt hexagons.

[werothegreat]

[theory]

It's not just me that's finding the forum slow, though, right?

[Watno]

Nope, its's definitely slow.

[theory]

Better now?

[Watno]

yes

[werothegreat]

Well, the forum is actually loading, even if it takes a little bit.  The wiki seems to be having trouble with that concept.

[theory]

Yeah the problem is that Apache is currently consuming 200% CPU.  I have no idea why it's doing that, but it makes trying to visit the forum insanely slow.

[Seprix]

Yeah the problem is that Apache is currently consuming 200% CPU.  I have no idea why it's doing that, but it makes trying to visit the forum insanely slow.

Do you have any theories?

[Seprix]

HOLY COW THE FORUM IS LIGHTNING FAST NOW

[theory]

I hate jinxing myself but I'm pretty sure I fixed it.  Whew.

The cute folksy analogy is that a French robot and a Chinese robot were constantly trying to get through a door labeled "xmlrpc.php", because they heard that behind that door they would get unlimited power.  In reality there's nothing behind that door, but their constant knocking and distractions made it difficult for us to respond to actual guests going through the actual front door.  So I built a wall in front of the xmlrpc.php door.

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[SCSN]

The cute folksy analogy is that a French robot and a Chinese robot were constantly trying to get through a door labeled "xmlrpc.php", because they heard that behind that door they would get unlimited power.  In reality there's nothing behind that door, but their constant knocking and distractions made it difficult for us to respond to actual guests going through the actual front door.  So I built a wall in front of the xmlrpc.php door.

And it was them bringing down the forum that made the robots realise this unlimited power was inside them all along.

[theory]

I still have to figure out how to make the French and Chinese pay for it though.

#MFDSGA

[ConMan]

I still have to figure out how to make the French and Chinese pay for it though.

#MFDSGA

Make them 5th and 6th players in a Black Market-Tactician-Villa-Crown-Torturer game.

[theory]

We're back!  Unexpected migration to a new host which I totally forgot to post about.

[schadd]

we made it through together, guys!

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[Watno]

That was a long one

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[Joseph2302]

Long downtime there, been about 20 hours for me.

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[Qvist]

I missed you guys

[theory]

Sorry duderinos.  I forgot the database password and rrenaud wasn't around to remind me what it was.  Who is at fault?  The forgetter, or the absent reminder?

[Joseph2302]

Sorry duderinos.  I forgot the database password and rrenaud wasn't around to remind me what it was.  Who is at fault?  The forgetter, or the absent reminder?

You

[schadd]

faults only count in horseshoes and hand grenades

[Elestan]

faults only count in horseshoes and hand grenades

Also tennis and electrical wiring.

[Kirian]

faults only count in horseshoes and hand grenades

Also tennis and electrical wiring.

And seismology.

[Deadlock39]

MARK IT ZERO!

[Seprix]

The forum. It was down. I would happily help pay for the forum to not be down on the weekends. Start a Patreon, Theory!

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[Roadrunner7671]

The forum. It was down. I would happily help pay for the forum to not be down on the weekends. Start a Patreon, Theory!

I'm sure theory would happily take your money! Shoot him a PM and he'll tell you his PayPal

[Calamitas]

Sorry duderinos.  I forgot the database password and rrenaud wasn't around to remind me what it was.  Who is at fault?  The forgetter, or the absent reminder?

Certainly you for not using a password manager

[J Reggie]

I missed you guys

[NolanA]

I'm glad to see the forum up again.  I am curious as the reason for the downtime events, as there have been a few during the short time I have been a member.  I see that the static HTML portion of the website is up during these events. It's only the dynamic PHP pages that have issues.   When I've had such issues on web sites I've run, it related to one of 3 things -- a never ending script/program, a short burst of traffic from publicity such as a radio show mention, or bots.  I once had tens of thousands of bots trying to sign up on a forum in a period of less than a minute.  I had to IP block a good portion of China until I figured out how to prevent it.    Feel free to not answer, if you'd prefer.  I appreciate the forum and do not mean to be offensive.   Instead I am curious and also hoping some one here might have ideas for preventing future issues.

[sudgy]

I'm glad to see the forum up again.  I am curious as the reason for the downtime events, as there have been a few during the short time I have been a member.  I see that the static HTML portion of the website is up during these events. It's only the dynamic PHP pages that have issues.   When I've had such issues on web sites I've run, it related to one of 3 things -- a never ending script/program, a short burst of traffic from publicity such as a radio show mention, or bots.  I once had tens of thousands of bots trying to sign up on a forum in a period of less than a minute.  I had to IP block a good portion of China until I figured out how to prevent it.    Feel free to not answer, if you'd prefer.  I appreciate the forum and do not mean to be offensive.   Instead I am curious and also hoping some one here might have ideas for preventing future issues.

It's only been more recently.

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[Seprix]

F.ds is always down these days. I wonder if it is a secret message by Theory. Like morse code. He's probably telling me to get a life.

[Limetime]

I missed you guys

[ThetaSigma12]

I missed you guys

[Watno]

I missed you guys

[Seprix]

I missed you guys

[McGarnacle]

I missed you guys

[werothegreat]

I remember there was one motivational-style meme that kept getting reposted and recaptioned, like one original picture with a caption, then the whole thing (with the caption) got an additional border and caption under it, then all of that got another border and caption around that, and on and on and on until finally someone did one where it was two stick figures looking down into this abyss of captioned captions, and one of the stick figures pushes the other one in.

[Limetime]

I remember there was one motivational-style meme that kept getting reposted and recaptioned, like one original picture with a caption, then the whole thing (with the caption) got an additional border and caption under it, then all of that got another border and caption around that, and on and on and on until finally someone did one where it was two stick figures looking down into this abyss of captioned captions, and one of the stick figures pushes the other one in.

You could have gotten a whole lot of respect if you actually did it instead of telling us about it.

[werothegreat]

I remember there was one motivational-style meme that kept getting reposted and recaptioned, like one original picture with a caption, then the whole thing (with the caption) got an additional border and caption under it, then all of that got another border and caption around that, and on and on and on until finally someone did one where it was two stick figures looking down into this abyss of captioned captions, and one of the stick figures pushes the other one in.

You could have gotten a whole lot of respect if you actually did it instead of telling us about it.

Couldn't find the picture. 

[Seprix]

Theory accidentally flipped the f.ds switch when he was turning off all the lights. 

[LaLight]

I missed you guys

[McGarnacle]

I missed you guys

[Seprix]

We have enough quote spam with Awaclus's victory lap regarding longest necro.

[Watno]

I love how still noone has noticed I left out some quotes when I posted my version

[Twistedarcher]

The forum. It was down. I would happily help pay for the forum to not be down on the weekends. Start a Patreon, Theory!

 I'm sure this is the last thing theory wants. It's a forum he runs in his free time, and paying him will only create an obligation for him to immediately drop everything and fix the forum, which is unfair to expect from someone who is doing this in their free time.

[Chris is me]

The forum. It was down. I would happily help pay for the forum to not be down on the weekends. Start a Patreon, Theory!

 I'm sure this is the last thing theory wants. It's a forum he runs in his free time, and paying him will only create an obligation for him to immediately drop everything and fix the forum, which is unfair to expect from someone who is doing this in their free time.

Fundraising for infrastructure improvements, if those are needed to keep the forum stable, are one thing. Like if the problem is that the web server is 100 years old and keeps going down, hey we could all chip in for a new one! I don't know enough about why the forum keeps going down to speculate one way or another here.

I agree that fundraising to give Theory money to work on the forum more would not produce the desired outcome and would just generate ill will.

[Limetime]

I missed you guys

[Seprix]

The forum. It was down. I would happily help pay for the forum to not be down on the weekends. Start a Patreon, Theory!

 I'm sure this is the last thing theory wants. It's a forum he runs in his free time, and paying him will only create an obligation for him to immediately drop everything and fix the forum, which is unfair to expect from someone who is doing this in their free time.

Fundraising for infrastructure improvements, if those are needed to keep the forum stable, are one thing. Like if the problem is that the web server is 100 years old and keeps going down, hey we could all chip in for a new one! I don't know enough about why the forum keeps going down to speculate one way or another here.

I agree that fundraising to give Theory money to work on the forum more would not produce the desired outcome and would just generate ill will.

Not to pay Theory. I want a better server, if that is the problem.

[Haddock]

The forum. It was down. I would happily help pay for the forum to not be down on the weekends. Start a Patreon, Theory!

 I'm sure this is the last thing theory wants. It's a forum he runs in his free time, and paying him will only create an obligation for him to immediately drop everything and fix the forum, which is unfair to expect from someone who is doing this in their free time.

Fundraising for infrastructure improvements, if those are needed to keep the forum stable, are one thing. Like if the problem is that the web server is 100 years old and keeps going down, hey we could all chip in for a new one! I don't know enough about why the forum keeps going down to speculate one way or another here.

I agree that fundraising to give Theory money to work on the forum more would not produce the desired outcome and would just generate ill will.

Not to pay Theory. I want a better server, if that is the problem.

Yeah I'm with this one.
theory would know better than anyone what the issues are.  But if theory does think that the issues would be fixed by a new server or something then I'd be happy to contribute. 

Let's see whether theory actually thinks this is a good idea before we starting raising the dough, eh?

[Kirian]

Like if the problem is that the web server is 100 years old and keeps going down

That's not a problem.  If that computer is 100 years old, it should be worth a small fortune to people studying time travel or alien tech.

[Witherweaver]

Like if the problem is that the web server is 100 years old and keeps going down

That's not a problem.  If that computer is 100 years old, it should be worth a small fortune to people studying time travel or alien tech.

Not necessarily; it could have spent some time in a time loop (a la Primer) and exited without retaining any of the technology that went into making the loop.

[Roadrunner7671]

I missed you guys

[theory]

I really do think it's solved now!  I've said it a bunch of times and it's never come true, but surely this time will be different.

[LastFootnote]

I really do think it's solved now!  I've said it a bunch of times and it's never come true, but surely this time will be different.

Man that sounds like my last big project at work. Mine was eventually actually fixed too. I have faith in you.

[pacovf]

Again, thanks for still taking care of the forum, theory. It's really appreciated

[werothegreat]

Again, thanks for still taking care of the forum, theory. It's really appreciated

Yes indeed!  So does this mean you might look into updating the post count names finally?

[Chris is me]

Again, thanks for still taking care of the forum, theory. It's really appreciated

Yes indeed!  So does this mean you might look into updating the post count names finally?

Spoiler: Theory has actually been trying to change the post count names for years, but every single time he does, the forum crashes until it goes back to the old way. "You can pry the Adventurer title from my cold dead hands!" the server echoes, overheating to the point of melting all backups of the forum's contents.

[J Reggie]

Mine was eventually actually fixed too.

Yeah, turns out Throne Room and Moneylender weren't the only cards that needed to say "you may".

[theory]

Again, thanks for still taking care of the forum, theory. It's really appreciated

Yes indeed!  So does this mean you might look into updating the post count names finally?

Amongst the many awkward things that this new edition introduces, it means that these post count titles make little sense now.

[werothegreat]

Again, thanks for still taking care of the forum, theory. It's really appreciated

Yes indeed!  So does this mean you might look into updating the post count names finally?

Amongst the many awkward things that this new edition introduces, it means that these post count titles make little sense now.

Maybe we could do some polls in the general forum as to which titles people want to see?  If you don't feel like picking new ones yourself, that is.

[McGarnacle]

Again, thanks for still taking care of the forum, theory. It's really appreciated

Yes indeed!  So does this mean you might look into updating the post count names finally?

Amongst the many awkward things that this new edition introduces, it means that these post count titles make little sense now.

Maybe we could do some polls in the general forum as to which titles people want to see?  If you don't feel like picking new ones yourself, that is.

I like this idea.

[Seprix]

Obviously I would be Overlord, although Theory might want that for himself. 

[LibraryAdventurer]

So does this mean you might look into updating the post count names finally?

Amongst the many awkward things that this new edition introduces, it means that these post count titles make little sense now.

How do you think I feel?  I might need a new username now.
LibraryRanger?
LibraryExplorer?
They just don't have the same ring to them...

EDIT: There is still the expansion title. I could be LibraryAdventures, but that makes me not a person (then again, there is someone else here known as "chairs").
EDIT2: LibraryVenture? eh, not too bad...
EDIT3: I thought I'd go with LibraryVenture, but it seems you can't change your username. I'm going to be stuck being a dead card. It's like half of my forum identity no longer exists.   
EDIT4: ...I could make a new account but then I couldn't modify the OP in my Resurgence thread...   

[LastFootnote]

At least the other half of your forum identity has a sweet new wording!

[LibraryAdventurer]

At least the other half of your forum identity has a sweet new wording!

It does? <checks...>
...Well, it has new wording. I don't see how it's much better than the old wording. I'm indifferent.

(

Draw until you have 7 cards in hand, skipping any action cards you choose to; set those aside, discarding them afterwards.

)

[LastFootnote]

At least the other half of your forum identity has a sweet new wording!

It does? <checks...>
...Well, it has new wording. I don't see how it's much better than the old wording. I'm indifferent.

(

Draw until you have 7 cards in hand, skipping any action cards you choose to; set those aside, discarding them afterwards.

)

I like that it no longer has retroactive instructions.

[Awaclus]

Sure has been slow today.

[GendoIkari]

Sure has been slow today.

I sort of but missed you guys a little bit, but not completely.

[LaLight]

Sure has been slow today.

I sort of but missed you guys a little completely, but not bit.

[Limetime]

Sure has been slow today.

I sort of but missed you guys a little completely, but not bit.

[theory]

I disabled RSS.  It seemed as though that was causing issues based on Apache logs.  Does it seem better now?

[Roadrunner7671]

I disabled RSS.  It seemed as though that was causing issues based on Apache logs.  Does it seem better now?

RSS? D-did you mean RSP?

[theory]

I wish ...

[theory]

Here's what disabling RSS did to the CPU usage.



Note the y-axis scale.

[werothegreat]

I don't even know what RSS is.

[pacovf]

I disabled RSS.  It seemed as though that was causing issues based on Apache logs.  Does it seem better now?

Seems better to me.

[pingpongsam]

I don't even know what RSS is.

I know what it is but I didn't know we had a feed and I wouldn't use it even if I had known.

[Awaclus]

I don't even know what RSS is.

Religion, sex and sex of course.

[schadd]

I don't even know what RSS is.

Religion, sex and sex of course.

oh, that's my favorite jane austen novel

[Witherweaver]

Really Slow Service

[LaLight]

I missed you, guys.

[theory]

Let's make a bet.  I bet that the forum won't go down for the rest of the year.  I'm fairly confident in this.  If I lose I'll have to play ten games of 4p base Dominion with the house rule that playing a Village, buying a Village, looking at a Village, or thinking about Village gives you +1 VP token.

If I win you all have to give me unlimited power over this forum. 

Deal?

[Qvist]

Preparing a DDoS Attack right now...

[LaLight]

Let's make a bet.  I bet that the forum won't go down for the rest of the year.  I'm fairly confident in this.  If I lose I'll have to play ten games of 4p base Dominion with the house rule that playing a Village, buying a Village, looking at a Village, or thinking about Village gives you +1 VP token.

If I win you all have to give me unlimited power over this forum. 

Deal?

Video, please

[theory]

!

[Kirian]

I, on the other hand, have no desire to see that video.

[Awaclus]

I, on the other hand, have no desire to see that video.

If such a video is made, I'm going to watch it for a minute, starting from an arbitrary time.

[theory]

Be honest: if I did post a link to that video, what would be the odds that it was actually just a link to dQw4w9WgXcQ?

[werothegreat]

Be honest: if I did post a link to that video, what would be the odds that it was actually just a link to dQw4w9WgXcQ?

I'm not going to ask why you have that YouTube code memorized

[pingpongsam]

I missed you guys

[Awaclus]

Be honest: if I did post a link to that video, what would be the odds that it was actually just a link to dQw4w9WgXcQ?

90-93%.

[theory]

It's happening again

[GendoIkari]

It's happening again

Again, or still?

[Witherweaver]

It's happening again

[theory]

I think I fixed it.  CPU usage over time:



There was either a very diligent Virginia scholar who cared very deeply about going through all the old versions of all pages on the wiki, or a spammer.  Either way, bye!

[schadd]

thanks on behalf of the mafia folks

[GendoIkari]

I missed you guys

[pacovf]

I missed you guys

[GendoIkari]

I missed you guys

[mchinitz]

Hi,

Can't login since sometime this morning to dominion games. Says "reconnecting." Is the server down?