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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #200 on: July 20, 2012, 04:42:57 am »

(that was in response to axxle's post, the "you" in "you/grujah/galz" was axxle not cayvie)

Ima put in my vote early this time. But this one's easy, a definite no, I think.

...I think with Axxle's proposal, it's pretty clearly a spy proposal. Do I need to explain why?
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #201 on: July 20, 2012, 04:47:13 am »

...if the people who I think are likely to be town now see why I think so, then I'll leave it unexplained for the spies :)
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #202 on: July 20, 2012, 04:52:57 am »

OK, I shouldn't be so sure. I'm not convinced they're town, but the three of them town with me the town idiot, and with you/grujah/galzria spy, seems pretty consistent with votes  so far.

To confirm - we are allowed to vote this one down, and then we have Grujah's proposed team, and then we HAVE to agree to Galzria's?

...hmm, Grujah never did say what team he'd propose if he were offered the chance. Actually, he hasn't posted here since the 17th? Where is he?
he posted earlier today.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #203 on: July 20, 2012, 06:24:21 am »

Oh god dammit. I even searched for his name in the thread and missed that one.

I'm not at the top of my game right now, am I.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #204 on: July 20, 2012, 06:26:25 am »

Due to being away this weekend, this proposal will have an extended deadline to Sunday evening-ish (GMT)
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #205 on: July 20, 2012, 01:01:48 pm »

Hmmm... how strongly do I believe in this Gruj/Galz/Axxle scumteam?

Enough to vote against until Galz's proposal, so that ftl gets to hand out the cards?

That may be a good idea. Yeah, I'm probably going to vote against this mission.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #206 on: July 20, 2012, 02:51:59 pm »

ftl's done some pretty scummy things so far.  Taking that card, lying about failing that proposal, I don't want him handing out the cards.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #207 on: July 20, 2012, 02:58:11 pm »

Taking the card was the right move as either team. Screwing up that proposal... yeah, that wasn't good :(
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #208 on: July 20, 2012, 03:05:23 pm »

Well, if it comes to that, I can just let confirmed townies tell me what to do with cards, I'm pretty sure if it comes to that I'll be able to figure out a publically trustable figure besides me.

...waaait I shouldn't be listening to you Axxle I don't trust you especially after your proposal. And you voted against that mission! So why are you holding it against me if you agree with where my vote ended up?
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #209 on: July 20, 2012, 03:07:53 pm »

Well, if it comes to that, I can just let confirmed townies tell me what to do with cards, I'm pretty sure if it comes to that I'll be able to figure out a publically trustable figure besides me.

...waaait I shouldn't be listening to you Axxle I don't trust you especially after your proposal. And you voted against that mission! So why are you holding it against me if you agree with where my vote ended up?
I'm trying to be very transparent in what I'm doing.  You are not.  That's the difference.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #210 on: July 20, 2012, 03:36:31 pm »

I think this vote is an easy choice. Axxle wasn't very spy-ish yet, but through process of elimination, he kind of has to be.

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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #211 on: July 22, 2012, 03:03:44 pm »

Just kinda a meta comment about Resistance v Mafia:

I really like that there's not this pressure to make sure you say everything you think is important all at once. In Resistance, you can afford to wait and get a little more info on your reads: you're not going to die.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #212 on: July 22, 2012, 06:19:14 pm »

Mission 2.3 proposed by: Axxle:
Team Proposed: Cayvie, Robz888, Axxle
Voting YES: Axxle
Voting NO: ftl, Cayvie, Robz888, Qvist, Grujah, Galzria
Result: Yes - 1, No - 6
Proposal Fails

(Can those of you who failed to submit orders in time please be more careful)

Leadership passes to Grujah
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #213 on: July 22, 2012, 06:41:08 pm »

##Proposal: Grujah, Qvist, Robz888
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #214 on: July 22, 2012, 07:49:35 pm »

Hm, I'm torn on this one. Got nothing against this team, so might as well vote yes. But it's basically equivalent in my mind to the team Galz wants, Galz/Qvist/Robz , and if this one fails and Galz's passes then I get cards again! Yay cards! So maybe I should vote no. ...but if someone screws up and forgets to vote on Galz's team, then we insta-lose if that team doesn't pass. So maybe I should vote yes on this one, just in case. And cards are pro-resistance no matter who gives them out.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #215 on: July 22, 2012, 09:41:38 pm »

Apologies for the delay. I think that it should be clear by now that unless the team is Robz/Qvist/Myself, I'm going to Vote: No.

I don't like the fact that ftl will take the cards if it comes down to my proposal, but at least we'll be up 2-0 going in. My list, for what it's worth, on most likely Spy to least (as you all seem to suspect me and I know that to be wrong, it's at least worth presenting my views):

Cayvie, Grujah, ftl, Axxle, Qvist, Robz, Myself

Anyway, as noted, my proposal will be Myself, Robz, and Qvist. If Grujah's gets turned down (and I do hope you'll join me in voting no?) we absolutely cannot have someone forget to vote on mine, as it's proposal #5, and a failure to pass results in a Spy win.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #216 on: July 22, 2012, 11:25:27 pm »

I oppose this mission, not because I think that Galz's mission will be better, but because I want to burn off as many proposals as possible to get back around to the people I am more confident of: Ftl, Cayvie, myself, and Qvist.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #217 on: July 22, 2012, 11:50:04 pm »

Thinking out loud here, do I have a reason to trust ftl > Grujah at all?

If ftl = spy and Gruj = Resistance, then I should vote FOR this, and then Galz hands out cards.

If Gruj = spy and ftl = Resistance, then I should vote against this, and then ftl hands out cards.

They *could* both be Resistance, which would make the team Robz, ftl, Grujah, and me. And would make Qvist, Galz, and Axxle the spies. Is this consistent?

If they're both spies, then... that means I should vote against this, as I have no idea what Galz's alignment is in that case. The third spy could be Axxle, Qvist, or Galz.

Oh, there's the KACEOY card that ftl has. I'm inclined to believe that he and Galz are not scumbuddies, because he gave opinion maker to Galz. I also don't think he's buddies with Qvist, because he made it easier to investigate Qvist by taking the card from him.

Okay, I think I've convinced myself to vote against, and for Galz's proposal.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #218 on: July 23, 2012, 02:59:13 am »

I'm in, Robz is in, but is there any reason to trust Grujah? I agree with Robz, I'll wait.
Side Note: I didn't count, but ftl is the last chance for Resistance or is it Galzria?

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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #219 on: July 23, 2012, 03:00:18 am »

I'm in, Robz is in, but is there any reason to trust Grujah? I agree with Robz, I'll wait.
Side Note: I didn't count, but ftl is the last chance for Resistance or is it Galzria?

We have to approve Galzria's mission.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #220 on: July 24, 2012, 01:00:23 pm »

Reminder for those who have not voted yet to submit your votes before the deadline
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #221 on: July 24, 2012, 03:25:55 pm »

Mission 2.4 proposed by: Grujah:
Team Proposed: Robz888, Qvist, Grujah
Voting YES: Grujah
Voting NO: ftl, Cayvie, Robz888, Qvist, Axxle, Galzria
Result: Yes - 1, No - 6
Proposal Fails

Galzria is the new leader. As this is mission 5 I will auto-assume everyone votes yes, unless someone objects. Those of you with relevant plot cards (I think that's just Galz, who is making the proposal, and ftl) will be given an oppertunity to use them, however.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #222 on: July 24, 2012, 03:33:59 pm »

Nice and simple:
## I propose Qvist/Robz/Galzria

Vote: Yes

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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #223 on: July 24, 2012, 03:35:02 pm »

Tables, I will just be voting Yes, obviously.
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Re: Resistance II: The Empire Strikes Back
« Reply #224 on: July 24, 2012, 03:39:38 pm »

Yeah, this will be easy.
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