Alright, I'm only halfway through my re-read (post 470) and here is what I have so far (I need to quit and go to sleep, more to come once I get further).
Some small things first just to get them out there, not sure what they mean:
People who started the game with RVS: Mail-mi, ashersky, SB, nkirbit, Ahoppy, sudgy
-2 of those are confirmed town, not sure what to think if there are any scum in there, or if it even matters since the game picked up and people didn't ahve tiem to get their joke votes out there. Probably means nothing
something interesting:
Total Mentions:
4: Eevee
3: liopoil
2: yuma, ashesrky, mail-mi, mgp, mcmc
1: robz, ahoppy, sb
0: nkirbit, sudgy
This is the number of mentions for scum partners when we did that survey earlier. Note how the lynch and NK are both at 0, and a third confirmed town at 1. This probably isn't useful, but this chart may still come in handy.
A little more interesting:
Also, hilarious that you now think I'm being "better town." Here's the formula for town!ashersky: post a lot, suggest some sort of claiming scheme, gain lots of suspicion, self-vote, unvote, get called out for unvoting the self-vote, self-vote again, catch scum but fail to be believed. Next time I'm scum, I'm going to try and fake it.
So far he's on path to match this formula. Could this be that faking it he hints at in the future? hmm...
Here's the most interesting thing I found when re-reading:
I don't even remember what mcmc's case on lio was, I haven't gotten to that point in the re-read. But I looked out for lio and noticed some strange behavior. There were at least 3 claims that he knows that he is town when there was no pressure applied to him. I only saw other such claims once from eevee, and a second time from eevee when he was put under pressure. Now this claim could most certainly be true, but I am inclined to think that it is actually pretty scummy to keep slipping in "hey don't forget I'm town". Just feels a little off to me.
secondly, I found Eevee pretty towny. Early he tried to get information out there, and he put out a good list of reads on people. However, I think he may have slipped:
in his reads on everyone he says this:
I'm really interested in seeing how mail-mi proceeds to play (won't comment further on this, as it would be very dumb to tell him how he should act so I'd think he's towny).
Saying he won't advise m-m on how he should play to not come off as scummy. However, later he analyzes liopoil's game:
I just laid out all my thoughts, but I have some free time now, I guess I could reread someone. liopoil? Lets do liopoil.
49 posts, 9 of them pre game.
-Criticizes RVS. I agree with this.
-Says ge would have chosen Eevee and MGP
Really liking the fast start this game has gotten 
. I'm already re-reading! (well, that's mostly because I kinda skimmed to catch up.)
This was when liopoil himself only had posted theory and nothing about individual players.
-As far as mafia picking their team, I'll send a PM to all players, 10 of them will be the same but the 11th will identify the first scum.
uh-oh, I think we can break the game by paraphrasing the flavour in our second PM. (or at least make one IC). This is kinda similar to the station-aligned thing in DS9. I think this should be addressed, and nobody should paraphrase any flavour....
This was liopoil's idea but for me it's a null tell as scum could propose it quite easily knowing the mods wouldn't let it happen.
Interestingly liopoils 15th post (I do not find spiritbears scummy. I disagree with him not answering the question (although, really, he did answer it by saying he has no clue who he would pick, which is good enough for me). I don't agree with his read on ashersky either, but I see no reason to find him scummy for it.
) is the first one where he comments anything on any other player (instead of strategy, theory or jokes or praising how fast the game is moving).
-Secondly I know you(spiritbears) know that you are town. The issue is no one else does; so if you are town, you want to help town by helping us know you are town. So cooperating/doing anything that is pro town is a really great way to help town. Hope that makes sense
just noticed this. It sounds like mcmc knows that spiritbears knows he's town. I understand what he means but still...
Good point in my opinion.
-what MPG is saying makes sense. Before anyone has posted, if you had to lynch someone right away, it should be random. Then let's say the first post is anti-town. That person is suddenly the best lynch right then. Nobody thinks we should random lynch.
Town points for this. The MGP witchhunt was running rampant (for no good reason imo), and mafia could have wanted to fan the flames by staying out of it or even joining them mob (assuming MGP is town).
-Suspects me but wants to hold off from voting so that his vote will eventually mean more.
At this point he does the reread and puts some thoughts down on people and I agree with most of the conclusions / point he makes. Comparing our lists, mine (top to bottom scum)
mail-mi
liopoil
ashersky
sudgy
mcmc
Robz
yuma
MGP
nkirbit
AHoppy
spiritbears
and his
mcmc
robz
sudgy
eevee
mail-mi
MGP
yuma
spiritbears
ashersky
Ahoppy
nkirbit
we seem to mostly agree. So, had I reread him before that big post, I would have been seriously suspected him for posting a lot but never saying anything until now, but it makes sense to need a reread to form an opinion so I'm fine with him now. Don't get a townread from anything, but not a scummy feel either. I'd move him to the middle of the pack in an updated list. Liopoil, I'd advice you to try to avoid just talking theory and taking more stances on people even without rereads (as the situations arise). The cautious way you've been playing (no voting at all!) makes it seem like you are trying to stay out of trouble.
The bolded part, he gives liopoil advice on how to be more towny (make some waves).
also, both eevee and liopoil said they would have chosen eachother as scum partners. Early, why would anyone suspect them of claiming eachother and actually both being scum? Well, it's starting to look like there may be a correlation there. The whole post feels like it is trying to help out lio, and take away any suspicion on him. Right now FoS on Eevee/liopoil (too soon to spot pairings?)
I'll post more and read more into these two when I get time to read more. I'm especially interested to get back to mcmc's liopoil case and compare it to what I'm seeing
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