so shraeye.... I think he is the only player that I haven't totally reread this game at some point or another.
Day1 I feel like is pretty standard shraeye. He was elusive with his reads. Asked a lot of questions. Voted occasionally, but wasn't a leading voice until his case on voltgloss. I get why shraeye doesn't like posting scum to chum lists. I do. But it does make reading shraeye himself difficult. Through a reread I know that shraeye had scum reads on nkirbit, seemed to be of voltaire (but I don't think he ever fully expressed it), has no read on ashersky whatsoever.
This post jumped out to me as a possible source for shraeye's case on voltgloss: (that is a reason for developing a case)
"I think you'd see similarities if you re-read the other game" is pretty weak, too. Did you read the other game and find similarities? What were they? Because on first read, it looks like you're just guessing that there would be similarities, and I don't think that's a good reason to vote someone.
Well, in that regard, I still like ash's suspicions on Voltgloss more than your "he just is a gut-feel"-vote on ash, where you also keep sheeping any and all other points that people bring up against ash.
And just 2 posts later shraeye comes out with his case on voltgloss... I feel frustrated that this case didn't actually get analyzed. But instead it was just the "slip" that was analyzed...
But let's actually look at it now... point by point. (realizing of course that we know now that voltgloss is town, thus meaning the case is incorrect, but that isn't the point, the point is why did he make it and what does it say about him?)
1. setting up future mislynches. First, I think this is always going to be a bad point. mcmc will disagree with me because I think he is the father of this concept. But setting up future mislynches... is I think extremely difficult to pull off as scum. It means you have to be in absolutely complete control of the game and have to be a leading voice over town. I think it is something you can go back and prove after a series of days, but to try and show it day1... That's a stretch. I don't know if shraeye meant to show that the most important points were given first, but if he did then this case is already pretty bad.
2. Tons of opened ended questions... "what do you think of..." I don't see how this is scummy. I know that for new scum players, this can sometimes be seen as a "testing the waters" move. But voltgloss is certainly not new to this game. It was typical play of a vet who likes to get people to take stances and put down their opinions.
3. demanding people make lists... shraeye gives the same reasoning as #2 for why this is scummy. Again, I get why shraeye might think this is bad for town, but I don't get why he thinks it is scummy.
4. the slips. See my other posts for why I think this was bad.
So really, I disagree with the entire case that shraeye came up with. I for one know that I was distracted enough by the slips that I wasn't able to fully go through the case itself. I think others did the exact same thing, in fact I know they did, because in rereading it appears only Robz said anything about the case itself. He said this:
Robz even said this:
Yeah, forget the rest of your case. That's... that's significant.
That is it for now. I need to get lunch ready for wife.