I feel like there's gotta be a scum veteran here. It isn't robz, and I don't think it's mcmc. That leaves me with Yuma, ashersky, and Eevee. I think at least one of those is scum, but I have no clue which.
Don't forget to include yourself!!! (yes I consider you a veteran!)
But this is something worth considering in this game where a statement like this would be worthless in another game. Obviously I am not going to consider myself, but regardless of what people said about who they woud choose as scum--there is just a lot of WIFOM in those statements--both eevee and ash would make for good partners as scum and likely choices.
I've reread ash previously and found him on the slightly town side. Since then he has been very focused on mcmc, even going so far as calling them out as a pair... I dont' know about that and as I said before mcmc/lio aren't as high on my reads as other players and I lean more that they are town v town or scum v town than scum v scum at this point... but my disagreeing doesn't make ash scum. But what I have noticed is that he isn't arguing as much today as yesterday or in other games in general. He seems to be a bit more calm and calculated? Although he does call out a ridiculous scum slip again on mcmc... and his last post is a bit more on the angry!ash side. So I could see ash here being scum trying to maintain some of his "persona" that we have come to expect from him, but only doing just enough to not make any huge waves and attract attention. I still think he is a bit scummy for being the lone player to support all 3 day1 wagons at the end...
Eevee on the other hand has kinda stayed away from the mcmc/lio argument for whatever reason and has pushed toward mail-mi. I don't mind that push... but given that mail-mi is VLA starting tomorrow? for a week? I hate to say it because I hate it when VLA impacts games and especially when it might prevent us from lynching scum... but hey, this is a game and we have to role with those sort of setbacks... given that mail-mi is VLA he might not be the best lynch candidate for today. Eevee has also been a bit gone today with VLA stuff. There were still a handful of things that I found eevee scummy for day1.
So I guess both are on the scummier side... probably both a bit scummier than say mcmc/lio at this point, but not scummier than where I am voting on xeiron. Guys we have seen.... well at least some of us have seen scum xeiron before. In the sad broken game he was partners with mcmc.
Mcmc is maybe the best person to ask: do you think that his play here is similar to his play there. And spiritbears was able to pinpoint both of them pretty well--aside from being distracted by me--from what you remember sb, do you think xeiron compares in these games? I think he does.
This may be a bit stream of consciousness, since I'm not going to break the quote into multiples.
Main point: I think this is how scum would respond to liopoil's innocent-seeming post about veteran scum.
Breakdown:
--jokey first line, doesn't actually apply given liopoil's "non-veteran" status. I mean, he's been around, but look at the names he lists. He's talking about the old-timers.
--second paragraph is a nothing paragraph, sounds smart and good, not really making any statements
--third paragraph is about me, we'll get to that in a minute
--fourth paragraph is about Eevee; points out something that bothered me about Eevee's redirect to mail-mi. I think there's merit in looking at mail-mi, but I'm not sure D2 is the right place for it. We have better targets already. But compared to the length of the paragraph, there's very little there about Eevee and more about mail-mi. I don't think we end up anywhere but a null Eevee read there.
--fifth...both scummier than lio/mcmc? Really? What?
--sixth and final paragraph, asks mcmc of all people a question. Granted, Xeiron is on the scummy side of null, but I think that's his style.
Okay, back to this:
I've reread ash previously and found him on the slightly town side. Since then he has been very focused on mcmc, even going so far as calling them out as a pair... I dont' know about that and as I said before mcmc/lio aren't as high on my reads as other players and I lean more that they are town v town or scum v town than scum v scum at this point... but my disagreeing doesn't make ash scum. But what I have noticed is that he isn't arguing as much today as yesterday or in other games in general. He seems to be a bit more calm and calculated? Although he does call out a ridiculous scum slip again on mcmc... and his last post is a bit more on the angry!ash side. So I could see ash here being scum trying to maintain some of his "persona" that we have come to expect from him, but only doing just enough to not make any huge waves and attract attention. I still think he is a bit scummy for being the lone player to support all 3 day1 wagons at the end...
This just pisses me off. HOW MANY TIMES DO I GET TO BE CALLED SCUMMY FOR NOT BEING SCUMMY ENOUGH? I get it, I'm scummy in like every game ever. But if I make any effort at all to be better at being town and helping, I get caled scummy for it because "he's not arguing enough" or "he's too calm" or "hmmm, he isn't being scummy, he must be scum!" Eevee did this to me in Bankers. This happens every game and it is getting ridiculous.
Yes, I've been focused on mcmc all D2. Can you not think of a good town reason why this could be? Really? I haven't been this towny since DS9, man. I'm doing my best to help town win a freaking game, given it's been so long, and the only time we win is when I mod, so I'm doing my best to fix it, and I'm doing a damn good job, if you would just listen to me. Not just hear me, but really listen to what I've been saying.
The scum slip isn't ridiculous. It isn't a "0% chance of flipping town" sort of scumslip. It's a sign that he's scum and can't quite hide it sort of scumslip.
You, yuma, are being obtuse. Maybe it's to get reactions, I don't know. I've refrained from saying this, since I know how much you hate it, but here it is again: yuma very well may be scum because he's being so towny. He's being towny and leading town (even when he's trying not to lead town by passing the buck to Robz) and we all know scum!yuma does that. Go see every game ever in teh history of time. When yuma is towny, he's scum. Good luck arguing against that, scummyscumscumscum.
Now, if you will all just please listen to me and vote mcmc, we can get this game on track and win. We can focus on catching his partners (lio, yuma, whoever) on D3.