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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #400 on: June 20, 2013, 03:41:54 pm »

Right.

Tables discards for 3 coins
Insomniac plays Solomon

Yeah, we need the discards as well. Shoot us now. Qvist goes first, but there's not really any reason to not send us both the discard - Qvist has to build something face up after all.
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« Reply #401 on: June 20, 2013, 03:46:56 pm »

OK, sent to you too.

I don't understand why you are building up so much money.  If I didn't have it myself, I would have thought you had Midas.
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #402 on: June 20, 2013, 03:50:36 pm »

I'll get to this tonight if mith doesn't beat me to it.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #403 on: June 20, 2013, 04:19:31 pm »

Building up money? Nah, just hands where the best option is to discard. Every time.
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #404 on: June 20, 2013, 04:54:48 pm »

Building up money? Nah, just hands where the best option is to discard. Every time.

Ouch.
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #405 on: June 20, 2013, 10:00:42 pm »

What's happening folks?  Surely we can finish this within the day? :P
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #406 on: June 21, 2013, 01:58:01 am »

Qvist and Tables each get the discards? And that's 3 discards for mith and myself, plus the 4 cards we didn't play (combined) at the end of Age I and Age II, correct?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #407 on: June 21, 2013, 02:00:07 am »

Qvist and Tables each get the discards? And that's 3 discards for mith and myself, plus the 4 cards we didn't play (combined) at the end of Age I and Age II, correct?

Yeah, your combined list is 7 cards.

Technically it's Qvist and Ins, but might as well send it to Davio and Tables as well.  Partners are partners!
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #408 on: June 21, 2013, 02:05:02 am »

Sent. Mith, if I made a mistake just send the correction to Qvist/Insomniac, but I think we're good.

Galzria plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Mith plays: Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #409 on: June 21, 2013, 02:14:29 am »

Sent. Mith, if I made a mistake just send the correction to Qvist/Insomniac, but I think we're good.

Galzria plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Mith plays: Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.


Booooooo.  Did you have Amytis in your starting hand?  You should have passed her (him?) to me!

And I guess I better build all the purples before letting them get to mith. ;)
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #410 on: June 21, 2013, 02:48:28 am »

Sent. Mith, if I made a mistake just send the correction to Qvist/Insomniac, but I think we're good.

Galzria plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Mith plays: Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.


Booooooo.  Did you have Amytis in your starting hand?  You should have passed her (him?) to me!

And I guess I better build all the purples before letting them get to mith. ;)

Bilkis was my first choice. Amytis was my second and came from Tables.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #411 on: June 21, 2013, 02:59:13 am »

By the way, I'm disappointed that you got your quarry.  I totally would have blocked that from you if it were in my power (or build it myself so that you'd have to pay me for that precious Stone). :P

Watno and I were totally manipulative, like, there was this:

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One other thing is that Galz needs 2 Brick for his first wonder stage and 2 Wood for his second. With Bilkis, he takes care of 1 of each. He can pay Ins for Wood. He has no Clay right now. So if I build it now, he can't get it until he receives the hand you are holding right now. And that's not going to happen, so mith would probably build the Clay Pool, which would give me access to 3 Brick!

I counted on mith to build Clay Pool so that I would have access to it.  I ended up getting Caravansery though so it didn't matter in the end. :P
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #412 on: June 21, 2013, 04:07:13 am »

I believe we have all discards now, we'll probably have to do some actual thinking so sorry for the delay. Other delays are mostly caused by different login times. :)
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« Reply #413 on: June 21, 2013, 02:25:39 pm »

I've looked at all my choices. I have to discuss this now with Davio, sorry.

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« Reply #414 on: June 21, 2013, 02:47:24 pm »

Very curious what the other discarded cards were now.  Usually when I play Hali there is a pretty clear choice of what is best.
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« Reply #415 on: June 22, 2013, 12:11:07 pm »

Just waiting now for tables to confirm.
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« Reply #416 on: June 22, 2013, 12:37:23 pm »

Just waiting now for tables to confirm.

Make sure you have a backup in case Qvist takes your first choice!
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« Reply #417 on: June 22, 2013, 01:57:53 pm »

Confirm. But we need to wait for Qvist
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« Reply #418 on: June 24, 2013, 12:38:56 am »

Qvist/Davio?
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« Reply #419 on: June 24, 2013, 12:49:38 pm »

I play Brickyard. Sorry for the wait, I was away this weekend.

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« Reply #420 on: June 24, 2013, 01:48:16 pm »

Insomn plays Workshop
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« Reply #421 on: June 24, 2013, 01:48:34 pm »

And now we need Kuildeous to deal out age III, yes?
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« Reply #422 on: June 24, 2013, 02:01:55 pm »

Yeas, Kuild, we're ready for you.
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« Reply #423 on: June 24, 2013, 04:03:07 pm »

Qvist builds Wonder stage 2.  Qvist builds Brickyard.
Davio pays $14 to build Wonder stage 2.
Tables discards for 3 coins.
Insomniac pays $3 to build Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.  Insomniac builds Workshop.
Galzria pays $4 and plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
Mith pays $3 $5 and plays Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon pays $3 and plays Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno pays $3 and plays Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.


Edit note: Ramses was mistakenly written down as costing $3 when it should be $5.  mith is content to abide by this.  To do so, he would have taken 2 debt from Davio's wonder build at the end of Age II.

Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 1
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP

Wonder stages built: 2

(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick

Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).

Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.

Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields.  Chain to: Fortifications.


Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.




Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP

Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.

Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).

Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs.  Chain from: Scriptorium.


Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.




Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP

Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.

Gambling House:  9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.

Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.

Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.




Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP

Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth

Lumber Yard: Produce Wood

Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.


Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.

School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.

Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.




Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP

Wonder stages built: 2
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.

Tavern: 5 Coins

Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.

Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.




mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 0
Debt: 4
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP

Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.

Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.

Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.

Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.




eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP

Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.

Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.

Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.

Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.

Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.




Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP

Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood

Press: Produce Papyrus.

West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.

Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.

Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.


Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields.  Chain from: Workshop.


Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
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Re: 7 Wonders Teams
« Reply #424 on: June 24, 2013, 09:39:55 pm »

Um, I'm afraid I have found a big mistake.  Ramses does not cost $3, as was copied in the OP -- it costs $5.  Obviously this is a huge hit to mith and Galzria's strategy.  I don't mind continuing as is, but we should correct that mistake for future games.

Edit: OTOH, mith could still build Ramses at $5, though it requires taking 2 debt.
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