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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #300 on: January 03, 2013, 10:38:36 am »

You guys are fun to watch.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #301 on: January 03, 2013, 11:06:51 am »

I'm sorry, I can't hear you from your jail cell over there.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #302 on: January 03, 2013, 11:12:57 am »

I'm sorry, I can't hear you from your jail cell over there.
And funny too!
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #303 on: January 03, 2013, 12:14:44 pm »

How's the electroshock... I mean "massage" going?
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #304 on: January 03, 2013, 12:46:30 pm »

How's the electroshock... I mean massage mafia going?

FTFY.  It's slow, like me, but we seem to be making progress.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #305 on: January 03, 2013, 03:07:30 pm »

Mafia can be a lot like electroshock therapy.

If you're doing it right.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #306 on: January 04, 2013, 12:31:24 am »

Mafia can be a lot like electroshock therapy.

If you're doing it right.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #307 on: January 04, 2013, 04:43:17 am »

Davio (Containment Specialist) plays Special Orders.
Tables (Troubleshooter) draws Manila, Resilient Population
Resilient Population: Take a card from the Infection Discard Pile and remove it from the game.

Infector: Sydney, Miami, Riyadh



Player 1: Tables (Troubleshooter): Mumbai, Moscow, San Francisco, Chicago, Taipei, Manila, Resilient Population
Resilient Population: Take a card from the Infection Discard Pile and remove it from the game.

Player 2: Davio (Containment Specialist): Atlanta, Algiers, Toronto, Ho Chi Minh City, London, Milan

Player 3: mith (Archivist): Beijing, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Seoul

Player 4: SwitchedFromStarcraft (Bio-Terrorist) lost the game

Discard: Jakarta, Paris, St. Petersburg, Epidemic, Bogotá, Tokio, Lagos, Essen, Chennai, Sydney, Remote Treatment, Mobile Hospital, Epidemic, Delhi, Santiago, One Quiet Night, Mexico City, Bangkok, Cairo, Khartoum, Lima, Sao Paulo, Los Angeles, Miami, Rapid Vaccine Deployment, Epidemic, Special Orders


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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #308 on: January 04, 2013, 05:05:26 am »

Remove Cairo from the infection discard?

I'd like to know which card is going to be removed (if any at this time) before I submit my turn.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #309 on: January 04, 2013, 09:46:02 am »

We can always wait until the next epidemic before deciding what card to remove. But probably Cairo yeah.

More urgently though, I only have 2 black cards, and only 2 more turns left, and I'm closest to the Black cure. At this point, that's kinda urgent.

Infection this turn is three of:
Baghdad
Mexico City
Los Angeles
Bogota
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #310 on: January 04, 2013, 10:28:50 am »

No trolling here, as the black situation is indeed urgent.  Though if I've counted correctly, 6 of the 14 Player cards left to be drawn are black, that's nearly 50%.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #311 on: January 04, 2013, 11:18:24 am »

Yeah, waiting until the Epidemic is always best for Res. Pop.

Black card options:

1. I can end up in Cairo and pick that up.
2. I can end up in Delhi and pick that up.
3. Davio can end up in Algiers.

We can actually do all three, if necessary: Davio moves Washington-Miami-Cairo-Algiers this turn, I move to Cairo, take card (and use my other two actions to clean, I guess), Tables movies Istanbul-Algiers, takes card from Davio, then to Cairo, and on my next turn I move to Delhi and pick that up if Tables hasn't already drawn a fifth, and he cures there. I can still get red on my last turn.

Davio's going to need to draw a blue, though... not seeing any easy way around that. Plus we pretty much have to rely on him for keeping us alive.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #312 on: January 04, 2013, 01:35:04 pm »

Epidemic Cycle
2 - Tables - clear
2 - Davio - clear
2 - mith - epidemic
2 - Tables - safe
2 - Davio - safe
1 - mith - safe
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1 - mith - clear
2 - Tables - clear
2 - Davio - clear
2 - mith - clear
2 - Tables - clear
2 - Davio - epidemic
-----
2 - mith - clear
2 - Tables - clear
2 - Davio - Epidemic
2 - mith - safe
2 - Tables - safe
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2 - Davio - clear
2 - mith - Epidemic
2 - Tables - safe
2 - Davio - safe
2 - mith - safe
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2 - Tables
2 - Davio
2 - mith
2 - Tables
2 - Davio
0 - mith
GAME OVER

I think it's reached the point we have to let some things go. Take a few chances on epidemics, but fortunately if we treat cities down to 2 cubes we're pretty alright I think.

In terms of urgency I think:
Me getting black cards
Davio getting a blue card
Treating problem areas
Mith getting a red card

If Davio were to take the move you've already suggested, then I could go grab Algiers off Davio, but that's 3 actions gone, so I can't grab another. I can move to Cairo, but you wouldn't need to be there until the next turn. What you could do this turn is go to Jakarta and pick that up, then next turn discover cure, move back, pick up Cairo and give it to me. But that doesn't leave us in a good position to get a blue card to Davio. I have two blues, so how's this for a tentative plan:

Davio:
Drive Washington
Drive Miami
Shuttle Cairo
Drive Algiers

Mith:
Drive Essen/Istanbul
Drive St. P/Cairo
Shuttle Jakarta
Archive Jakarta

Tables:
Shuttle Cairo
Drive Algiers
Share Knowledge Algiers
Drive Cairo

Davio:
Goes to Chicago by whichever path looks best

Mith:
Cure Red
Shuttle Cairo
Archive Cairo
Share Cairo

Tables:
Hope to have something that lets me cure black (Re-examined Research drawn by anyone, New assignment drawn by anyone would do it (make me Scientist) OR a black draw by me)
Go to Chicago

Davio:
Take Chicago
Drive to Atlanta
Drive to Miami
Cure Yellow for the win.

This plan has two obvious flaws:
1) We do very little treating
2) It hinges on our draws.

There are 13 special event cards, we've drawn 6 of our 8 so there are 2 of 7 left. We draw 10 more of our 14 cards by the critical point, I draw 2 of them. There are 6 black cards left in the deck. The chance I draw a black is... 69%! That's actually not bad odds! If I don't draw a black, then we draw on average 1.46 special events, which I've calculated as giving a 40% chance of giving us one we need. In total, the chance of this succeeding IF we aren't killed by infection is 81.6%, which are odds I'm personally willing to take.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #313 on: January 04, 2013, 03:47:26 pm »

You've got our pawns mixed up - You're in Milan, I'm in Miami.

My thinking for my moves was as follows:

Shuttle Cairo
Archive Cairo
[2 actions to take cubes from either Miami or Cairo]

If you have something to finish off the black cure:

Share Cairo
Shuttle Jakarta
Archive Jakarta
Cure

If you don't:

Share Cairo
Shuttle Delhi
Archive Delhi
[Another spare action]

Then I have a third turn to take care of red - obviously we would prefer to win before the very last turn as the cube situation is likely to get out of control, but if it's our only option for getting you the fifth black...
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #314 on: January 04, 2013, 03:49:02 pm »

(Aside from that, I agree with Davio heading to Chicago on his next turn if he doesn't draw into a way to cure blue on this one. He's probably going to be treating up there anyway.)
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #315 on: January 04, 2013, 04:19:30 pm »

Ugh, that's a huge mistake to make ¬_¬. Although actually I think it only helps my plan, as it means it takes you two less actions to cure Red, and it's the same for me.

Anyway I think you're right about your turns. We should probably go ahead with that, I think.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #316 on: January 06, 2013, 03:50:37 pm »

I'm going ahead with this

Drive to Washington
Drive to Miami
Shuttle to Cairo RC
Drive to Algiers


Take off some cubes along the way.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #317 on: January 06, 2013, 06:42:54 pm »

Davio (Containment Specialist) draws New York, Kolkata

Infector: Baghdad, Bogotá, Mexico City



Player 1: Tables (Troubleshooter): Mumbai, Moscow, San Francisco, Chicago, Taipei, Manila, Resilient Population
Resilient Population: Take a card from the Infection Discard Pile and remove it from the game.

Player 2: Davio (Containment Specialist): Atlanta, Algiers, Toronto, Ho Chi Minh City, London, Milan, New York, Kolkata

Player 3: mith (Archivist): Beijing, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Seoul

Player 4: SwitchedFromStarcraft (Bio-Terrorist) lost the game

Discard: Jakarta, Paris, St. Petersburg, Epidemic, Bogotá, Tokio, Lagos, Essen, Chennai, Sydney, Remote Treatment, Mobile Hospital, Epidemic, Delhi, Santiago, One Quiet Night, Mexico City, Bangkok, Cairo, Khartoum, Lima, Sao Paulo, Los Angeles, Miami, Rapid Vaccine Deployment, Epidemic, Special Orders


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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VII, mith's move)
« Reply #318 on: January 06, 2013, 07:08:23 pm »

Aha, there's the blue card! This should make things easier. Now we just need to worry about treating, and getting me that 5th Black.

Next infection card is Los Angeles (non issue) then there are two unknowns.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VII, mith's move)
« Reply #319 on: January 07, 2013, 12:38:14 am »

I don't see anything better to do than take the two cubes from Cairo. The yellows can't outbreak at this point, so taking the cube from Miami would only matter if we were running low on cubes.

1. Shuttle to Cairo
2. Archive Cairo
3. Treat
4. Treat
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VI, mith's move)
« Reply #320 on: January 07, 2013, 12:48:35 am »

Ok, but before I update, I like to know the discard from Davio, just to keep everything in order.

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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VII, mith's move)
« Reply #321 on: January 07, 2013, 02:35:51 am »

Discard Ho Chi Minh City.
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VII, mith's move)
« Reply #322 on: January 07, 2013, 02:54:43 am »

mith (Archivist) draws Riyadh, Kinshasa

Infector: Los Angeles, London, Lima



Player 1: Tables (Troubleshooter): Mumbai, Moscow, San Francisco, Chicago, Taipei, Manila, Resilient Population
Resilient Population: Take a card from the Infection Discard Pile and remove it from the game.

Player 2: Davio (Containment Specialist): Atlanta, Algiers, Toronto, London, Milan, New York, Kolkata

Player 3: mith (Archivist): Beijing, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Seoul, Cairo, Riyadh, Kinshasa

Player 4: SwitchedFromStarcraft (Bio-Terrorist) lost the game

Discard: Jakarta, Paris, St. Petersburg, Epidemic, Bogotá, Tokio, Lagos, Essen, Chennai, Sydney, Remote Treatment, Mobile Hospital, Epidemic, Delhi, Santiago, One Quiet Night, Mexico City, Bangkok, Khartoum, Lima, Sao Paulo, Los Angeles, Miami, Rapid Vaccine Deployment, Epidemic, Special Orders, Ho Chi Minh City


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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VIII, Tables' move)
« Reply #323 on: January 07, 2013, 04:06:51 am »

Just to check, I should take a card from Davio then move to Mith?
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Re: Pandemic III - The Bio-Terrorist (Round VIII, Tables' move)
« Reply #324 on: January 07, 2013, 08:40:37 am »

I'm sure you've thought of this, but if you take a card from Davio, you'll have to discard a card.
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