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brokoli

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All reactions in 1 kingdom
« on: October 26, 2012, 06:52:42 am »
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http://www.dominiondeck.com/games/all-reactions-and-bazaar

(for the 10th card I chose Bazaar because it's a village and a $5 simple card).

What is the best strategy in this kingdom ?

It's interesting to note that almost all cards are useful somehow (the only one that seems useless is moat)
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 07:57:50 am »
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I thought about that one too.
I think Horse Traders + Fool's Gold is the way to go here. You can even later buy Tunnels and discard them with Horse Traders.
What could be fun too would be Trader + Market Square for trashing Estates for 2 Silvers and 1 Gold or Coppers for 1 Gold.
But I don't like the addition of Bazaar here because it's basically pointless. To make the Reactions, especially Moat more interesting, I would add an attack. How about Knights?

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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 08:01:37 am »
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Or add Lighthouse.  Or JoaT.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 09:01:01 am »
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This is tough because 5 of them react to attacks, so to not have an attack in there essentially turns them into normal actions and defeats the point of the set. However, if you put an attack in there there's so many ways to respond to it that the attack could be really weak. Interesting idea though.

Edit - I wonder whether swindler would be an interesting attack to have. Potentially vulnerable to Market Square, but a lot of potential in terms of swappable targets that confound the other's plan.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 09:10:17 am »
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This is precisely why I didn't want an attack.

Knights and swindler are also vulnerable to beggar (and horse traders), don't forget that.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 09:20:16 am »
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I guessed Moat before I even looked at the link! I'm so proud of myself. :'(
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 09:20:29 am »
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You should also add Young Witch, for even more reactionary fun. It doesn't even take a kingdom slot.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 09:21:44 am »
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You should also add Young Witch, for even more reactionary fun. It doesn't even take a kingdom slot.

Definitely disagree. Young Witch + Tunnel would be dominating.

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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 11:34:03 am »
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This is precisely why I didn't want an attack.
But without one half the cards on the table have been hamstrung haven't they? You're dealing with a table of weak weak cards (eg a $2 cost with half it's abilities unusable - eesh) What are the chances of cards like that beating Big Money + Fool's Gold? Well, I suppose as mentioned Horse Traders could be an interesting shout but will that be good enough for provinces? Maybe a market Square for plus buy but that's only to try and get more FG's than the other guy.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 07:49:44 pm »
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At the risk of sounding.... I don't know, impertinent (?) I want to point out that the question posed in the OP was "what's the best strategy for this kingdom"?  The responses have mostly been about what to take out or add to make the kingdom "better" or "more interesting" or something.

I'd like to know what the best strategy would be for the kingdom specified.  Are there other good options besides a) Horse Traders and Fools Gold or b) YW plus Tunnel?
« Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 07:51:34 pm by SwitchedFromStarcraft »
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 08:26:55 pm »
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HT+Fool's Gold+Tunnel, probably.

Possibly something with Market Square and either Trader or Watchtower, but that seems like it would lose badly to uncontested HT+FG.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 09:42:39 pm »
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I am absolutely terrible with Fools Gold, but I'm not even sure it would be a great move here.  There are no drawers, and you need HT (or Market Square, but that seems like a mostly dead card otherwise) to get extra buy anyway.

A simple Horse Traders/Tunnel/accumulate Gold fast strategy seems like it would work pretty well.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 10:24:10 pm »
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 11:41:44 pm »
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There's several sources of +buy, a metric ton of $2's, and an alt-VP card. This kingdom stands a good chance of 3-piling. As much as I really want to work some sort of Market Square strategy (beggar + watchtower!), I think the safer play is to base your deck around Horse Traders so you can grab Duchies. My intuition is Fool's Gold is a better combo than Tunnel a HT can always buy 2 FG, it takes an extra reshuffle to get the gold from the Tunnel, and I feel like FG can bump to $8 easier.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 09:20:21 am »
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http://www.dominiondeck.com/games/all-reactions-and-bazaar

Is it just me or are those borders like 5 different shades of blue?

Yeah. I noticed that when playing the literal sets. The backs are different shades too.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2012, 09:51:45 am »
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Just noticed that Trader and Market Square seem to work well together. MS gives you the buys to grab heaps of Coppers that actually turn out to be Silvers, and trashing an Estate or Silver giving you two extra Silvers and a Gold or two has got to be a pretty good deal. And that's your economy dealt with, so you can spend all your buys on more Market Squares and a couple more Traders.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 11:22:42 am »
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There's several sources of +buy, a metric ton of $2's, and an alt-VP card.

Tunnel is not really an alt vp...
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2012, 11:50:23 am »
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There's several sources of +buy, a metric ton of $2's, and an alt-VP card.

Tunnel is not really an alt vp...

Just as much as Island is...
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 10:08:50 pm »
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There's several sources of +buy, a metric ton of $2's, and an alt-VP card.

Tunnel is not really an alt vp...

Just as much as Island is...

I think by 'alt vp' brokoli means a strategy to get that victory card over Provinces.
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Re: All reactions in 1 kingdom
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2012, 05:01:07 am »
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There's several sources of +buy, a metric ton of $2's, and an alt-VP card.

Tunnel is not really an alt vp...

Just as much as Island is...

I think by 'alt vp' brokoli means a strategy to get that victory card over Provinces.

Yes. Gardens, Silk road, Vineyard, Duke, Faigrounds, Feodum.
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