So as many people know, I streamed my match live. It was my first time doing this and I thought I might be able to interact with the chat in between games. Turns out I didn't want to break my focus, so what I did was copy the relevant part of the chat log and now I'll offer my comments. I'd like to thank everybody who watched and especially those who offered some commentary, it was really great to see such high-level players commenting on my games and I got to see some people in the stream this time who I haven't seen before
Let me know if this is something that's interesting, I can continue to do this.
GAME 1WanderingWinder: open urchin on 3, then YW if he doesn't get an urchin
It makes me so happy when WW says I should do something and that's what I ended up doing Davqvist: Does YW even matter here?
WanderingWinder: Definitely YW is better than urchin turn 2 - Urchin just doesn't do basically anything for you; silver is better than village turn 3, you will need economy
» So on the turn you get 3 mercenaries (I'm going to assume there won't be a second such turn) - you can consider market square, though village is also worth a look; you know, though, that you can't have more than $1, because you'd actually had 6 coppers in your last hand, and that was all your economy
» the second time you have 5, I think I would be buying market square - you need the buys, the golds, etc. Three mercenaries are going to thin for you pretty well...
» I think the second tactician is just a mistake...
The second Tactician was a close call for me, I was still worried my deck was too big and he was starting to play Mountebanks more often which is why I got it, but I don't remember any time where the second one was particularly useful.Sirdagen: Why so, WW? Cause he can't use his money then?
Lespeutere: he's able to draw his deck now even w/o tac
WanderingWinder: because the deck you want to build draws itself w/o tactician, and you want to be using gold; the only way double-tac works is off virtual coin which means like... a lot of merchant ships? Which doesn't set up well; this also works with the mercenary all the time plan
» and with the deck stacks up, he probably should be trashing the second tactician, since he's never playing it (turn 16 as I make this comment)
Sirdagen: Yeah, thanks. Now he doesnt want to play the tac.
WanderingWinder: Adam is still in good shape though, because he has MUCH more endgame control; I would probably be looking at more smithies if I were him, because he will need to be drawing a lot more
Yeah I totally should have been doing this instead of a second Tactician, there are just so many things I want at this point like Villages, Market Squares, etc. I should have thought of this.» turn 17, I think you play tactician, buy estate
Lespeutere: maybe trash 2 golds, play tac, buy MS
Sirdagen: This is so interesting. I should go to bed (0:33), but...
How many times has this happened to me? Go to bed because it's way too late, or play MOAR Dominion? Guess which one I always chose?Lespeutere: (t17)
» nah, play mercenary on YW/tac
GAME 2Lespeutere: heya
» I didn't know they named a card after you, WW
WanderingWinder: You make your own "the-right-player-goes-first" luck
» ^^he is referring to Wandering Minstrel
Sirdagen: Haha
Lespeutere: obviously
WanderingWinder: Golden deck is weak to Masquerade
I've made that mistake before» I think you actually just make a masquerade-based engine here, with hoard and money
» masquerade is PLENTY trashing
Sometimes it can be difficult for me to turn down Steward, but this time it was easy for me. I always hesitate to have a super-thin deck with Masq around, and I always hesitate to not open Masquerade with Masq around.Sirdagen: Oh, torture him, then masquerade.
There were several interesting situations where playing Torturer/Masquerade in the right order was a non-trivial decision, I don't think I got all of them correct.Lespeutere: he'll take curses as well
» yeah, mistake not to play haven
WanderingWinder: expanding torturer into province is a big mistake - you need your draw, really
» Though you're basically winning anyway
I did this because I was really worried about what his deck could do and I wanted a mad rush for green (I think this was right after he bought his Expand). Looking back I shouldn't have been so worried, but that's why I did this.WanderingWinder: T15 You're really mis-playing this endgame - 4 provinces isn't that great if he can likely double province AND have bishop points; milling a province is good though
GAME 3WanderingWinder: I don't think the HoP mega-turn will happen very easily through mountebank - Trader as a defense doesn't really help, you still get stop cards. I think I would actually go trader-trader, maybe move into salvager later, definitely look to use Border Village with T4B at some point, and then adjust to what they're doing; Probably get 2ish mountebanks before switching to baker, lots of treasure, go from there
» Turn 4 - I definitely would get a second mountebank; why do you not get a second mountebank? He hasn't gotten trader, you want to pound him; I definitely get Mounte
Outlining the first of many misplays this game. I looked at this kingdom and I was pretty sure I would lose, this was a tough board for me.GAME 4WanderingWinder: I'm pretty sure I'd go Embassy/BM; Lab-based engines without trashing, no great payload, are SO slow
Once again, very nice to see that I made the same decision as WW Sirdagen: He did it
This is likely a response to some chat message that Twitch dropped? Thanks, Twitch, you're the best.WanderingWinder: If you engine, it would be with embassy in mind for the draw... or maybe actually, Develop/Talisman, turn 4-costs into village/lab or something? That can't be good
» "I can just... GET lighthouses over silvers from now on" - naw, Jimmy don't fear the Thief - keeping treasures is much better for your deck, just power through
» (also more cowbell)
lol» And for what he is doing (t11 as I say this), he really needs more labs
Yeah I think more draw/trashing would have helped him quite a bit, it might have enabled him to make use of some of the treasures he was stealing from me, but maybe not.» He's right to leave the treasures in the trash - they clog up the engine he wants to build
» Actually at this point his copper-trashing is not helping you so much...
» (t14-15)
Sirdagen: Even ignore lighthouses with 6 thiefs in play, WW?
» I would be scard too
WanderingWinder: there were 2 thieves when I said that, but you know, I really would be getting some villages if I were Adam now I think
Sirdagen: but now he has too many
WanderingWinder: Who has too many what?
» I think the opponent getting 6 thieves must be a mistake
Sirdagen: adam lighthousese?
» sure
Glad to see you didn't go to bed But yeah at this point my entire economy was coming from Lighthouses.WanderingWinder: mm, if you're going for lighthouses, you almost just want to go whole-hog
» T22 - he didn't want WV because he's worried about piles; regular village would be good, but I think develop to turn thieves into useful things, get duchies
So yeah I think the turn he bought nothing with $4 was a misclick, then