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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 11:07:31 pm »
I might be on for a few minutes around 2. I'll put a vote down now to be safe, though I will have time to check in in the morning. vote: mcmc.

You have scum read me pretty consistently so far. Could you make a case for me, apologies if you have likely made it through various posts

Saying Cuzz's question was towny; persisting in saying I could be scum, could be trying to prevent an IC; belaboring a point unnecessarily  - it's hard to come up with things to say as scum, and it unfocuses the conversation.  Am I sure? No. Best guess I have right now.

Man that post about fuzz’s question really set off the scumdar, interesting. Also if you are town, you being presumed ic is actually bad for you and scum not being sure if town(me) is going to try to misexile you actually helps to keep you alive. My lower content level is definitely reasonable. So not a scummy case by any means but not a strong one in my opinion.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 10:50:16 pm »
finishes a shraeye reread and its a vibe bby, pretty consistent reads throughout though my re-reads are getting less analytical as i go, maybe time to call it for the night

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 10:41:30 pm »
Re-read joth honestly a whoooooole lot of nothin(probably true for lots of people) re robz's cuzz read case from rereading the move from joth feeling townie on cuzz to scummy on cuzz feels pretty natural and reasonable. Honestly pretty null here other than the fact that what joth has said I agree with

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 10:39:02 pm »
I might be on for a few minutes around 2. I'll put a vote down now to be safe, though I will have time to check in in the morning. vote: mcmc.

You have scum read me pretty consistently so far. Could you make a case for me, apologies if you have likely made it through various posts

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 10:38:19 pm »
sweet I absolutely believe awaclus is glaz's town neighbor as said I think it makes zero sense for scum to grab neighbor stuff and then kill galz. I also super doubt scum!awaclus scum slipped in the neighborhood and had to nk galz for it.

Why are you debunking the scumslip idea? I'm not saying it's a good one (I was half joking), but does it need debunking here? Awaclus already handled that pretty thoroughly and the idea doesn't bear on believing his claim or not because it was pure speculation.

I dunno I guess I am overly fixated on countering the idea that scum had anything to do with the neighborhood. Like reread me and waaay too many of my posts are about that but at least its consistent?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 08, 2024, 10:34:48 pm »
I have thoughts but sharing them now isn't pro-town. I don't want to help scum write their playbook. Someone remind me tomorrow and I'll share.

reminder

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« on: October 08, 2024, 09:31:27 pm »
Brothers Robzalot might be my new favorite duo name. I’m eh on Galz votes. I think he was on the right side of the is Cuzz scummy for bringing up potential mod choices. And the end result was that it really did start some conversation better than our usual D1 chatter.

Joth, I’m sorry you’re sick!

If this is Scola scumlurking I’m gonna lose it. Moving my vote there would take very little convincing.

Deadline is tomorrow at 10:45. I’m around most of today, but not this evening (trivia) and tomorrow I’m teaching. I’ll be able to check in early (8ish FT) but I’m for sure teaching at deadline. I like the 5-day days!

Off to class!

Vote: Scola

youa are the 5th vote for scola, I hammered him with 50 min till deadline and zero other wagon available. Pretty scummy of you to say you have a scumread on me for being instrumental in the scola misexhile.



Day 2
I’m trying to organize my thoughts…


Town
Ithink EFHW is town and I think Cuzz is town. I had LL on my town list, too, but now I’m not so sure but I think it’s mostly on Gus because he has in the speccy of the last game he consistently thought I was scum and I wasn’t and it seems that is happening this game, too. It feels impossible to argue against feels so ugh. And me, towny town town.

No idea
I don’t have any feelings about Robz so no idea. We don’t know each other well and I think he’s the kind of person who is annoyed with the chatter, which is what I do Shraeye is in this game? I’m having a hard time remembering what he’s done except math homework. If we were lurker exiling, he’d be my choice. Awaclus, around and active but doesn’t engage in a way that lets me get a handle on him. He is funny, though, which awesome.

Vote choices
Galz had Mcmc on his list, and now EFHW goes do that’s an option. Swowl is another possibility because when he’s town I usually know it for sure. The same with Joth. I have sympathy for Joth being overextended but it still feels kind of forced to me.

I will be around in the morning. I think that’s when the deadline is

Vote: Joth

interesting that you have swowl in your scum list because you know when he's town. then
Didds count 2.1

LaLight (2): Swowl, shraeye,
Swowl (2): LaLight, Awaclus
mcmcsalot (1): EFHW
Cuzz (2): jotheonah, Robz888
jotheonah (2): WestCoastDidds, Cuzz

Not Voting (1): mcmcsalot

Ya'll the deadline is 29 hours away. Can we at least start to consolidate tonight so its not a scramble in the morning when some of us are working?

I am not at all excited about Swowl based on who is voting for him. Mcmc, can you settle somewhere? EFHW, how are you feeling abut the mcmc vote? I'm not really willing to move to Cuzz or swowl today.
not long after(granted swowl comes in a posts some things which you mention finding towny)
The fizzle of the Joth wagon is suuuuuuper interesting. But I have to watch the debate and do some commentary thing after so I’m out for a while.

Between the three leading wagons, Cuzz, LL and Swowl, I’ll vote: LaLight
you have completely swapped your town and scum reads on lalight and swowl based mostly on what other people are pushing for their exhiles. Overall this feels much more like you are aligning your votes based on which players you want to vote with/against not based on which players you actually find scummy. Also as a general point and I will say I do not know where this falls meta wise for didds but almost every other post is asking other people what their read on X player is. Again just feels like you are more concerned with what the state of everyone is at rather than getting scum out of here.

That has not been me, it’s been me.

What?

Fail! That’s has not been me, it’s been you (Joth). He has been instrumental in exiling both townies
More blaming others for being instrumental in the town exhiles.

vote: didds fits scum narrative of navigating the game rather than searching for scum. more rereads incoming

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 08:42:08 pm »
sweet I absolutely believe awaclus is glaz's town neighbor as said I think it makes zero sense for scum to grab neighbor stuff and then kill galz. I also super doubt scum!awaclus scum slipped in the neighborhood and had to nk galz for it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 05:45:27 pm »
Alright, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and claim early, despite only having two votes on me, as we're 28-ish hours from deadline:

I'm a vanilla townie

So, you know, not the worst exile, unless this in fact is exlo, in which case I am the worst exile. I'm sorry I haven't played this game better.

Hmm this certainly draws more attention than not doing this. I think this is objectively a bad scum play which makes me think it’s towny. Though if scum!joth sussed out he was going to be the exhile this was a great move. Hmmm

Gotta re-read joth and see if scum!joth would expect to have some allies and get a didds exhile or something through

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 05:42:43 pm »
Will more people engage with my case against Joth? I think it's a good case... if you disagree, explain why.

This is something I will get to as well as your wagon analysis. Off the cuff I’m not seeing the Joth case as stronger than my vibe on didds though I 100% need to give your case it’s due before I say I disagree.

I also weirdly townread former coalition members because that was low key a bond that has surpassed the boundary of that game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 05:40:02 pm »
We're getting an unusual lack of mcmc this game, or at least today. Not sure what to make of it.

Just the classic I got behind and each time I sit down and have the time to get back into it I am deciding to do other stuff which is absolutely anti-town of me and thus unlike both town and scum mcmc. I will 100% catch up and get back in after I put the girls to bed tonight. If I don’t blame me for our loss, shame works make me play better.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 08, 2024, 05:37:29 pm »
Ugh…so many apologies for all the typos. Jet lag is real. I appreciate reading my posts from the last 24 hours with grace!

Shraeye and Robz showing up and putting in some work. Nicely done. 

Shraeye, I didn’t move my vote from EFHW after she claimed because I wasn’t sure I believed her. But I thought Cuzz’s immediate move from her was more towny than not, even though I wish that he had a bit more suspicion.

Scum: Joth
Lean scum: Mcmc, awaclus
Neutral: Robz, Shraeye
Lean town: EFHW, Cuzz

Why scumreading mcmc?

Instrumental in Scola and Swowl exiles, general demeanor and contribution

Explain how I was instrumental in either of those exhiles. I believe I led the wagon for efhw day one and actually still wanted to exhile efhw but accepted scola a repeat lurker as a good last minute alternative. The swowl exhile I supported in opposition to the lalight wagon who was also town. It feels like you are taking the necessary stance of scum reading me and then just throwing things out that definitely didn’t happen.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 10:05:40 am »
Ugh I also hate the fact that I’m about to push a didds case as didds has announced less availability

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 10:03:13 am »
I also do think some scum-chum lists may be of assistance. Normally I have come around to the idea that general reads giving let’s scum know who they should be targeting and who they are safe to keep around but at this stage of the game with so much scum left I think we may be in a position where we need town to just get on the same page for a bit.

I’m not sold on this idea though

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 10:03:00 am »
I also do think some scum-chum lists may be of assistance. Normally I have come around to the idea that general reads giving let’s scum know who they should be targeting and who they are safe to keep around but at this stage of the game with so much scum left I think we may be in a position where we need town to just get on the same page for a bit.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 09:56:00 am »
I promise I will actually get a re-read and stuff done on computer tommorow. I know I said I would last week and then I failed but I will now.

In general re: robz analysis I  agree all three scum were not on wagon though I think like someone else mentioned(joth?) that we need to look at the counter wagon that was also in town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 09:53:26 am »
I’m not sold on shraeye being scummy but I don’t read him well at all. Awaclus I think I am getting better at but I need to re-read him

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 09:52:06 am »
Robz doesn’t strike me as scummy, he feels more genuinely concerned for the game than he did in the last game where he was scum.

In general with both Rob and didds I tend to read concern as town and outrage as scum

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 06, 2024, 09:50:39 am »
I also think dids is scum. Was waiting to vote till I could go back and do a re-read but the outrage for the swowl exhile feels really fake scummy

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 05, 2024, 01:20:04 pm »
Okay, but wouldn't want to still no exile today not to risk misexiling and losing now?

No exile and then 1-shot exhile proof traitor intentionally getting themself exhiled loses us the game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 04, 2024, 06:53:00 pm »
Obvisouly lalight is the correct nk regardless of efhw telling the truth or not so can’t read anything into that.

Awesome that we can read into the lalight wagon though!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 04, 2024, 06:14:49 pm »
Oh right the neighbor thing was automatic. So three.

Two if efhw is lying. Result please efhw :)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 11:14:36 am »
It’s swowl or no exhile

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 11:13:35 am »
I have 2 minutes. How can I save us?

Vote swowl

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 11:13:21 am »
Also is this not like the 4th claimed pr we have run a wagon up on in three games…I know I keep saying it but there is zero reason scum should not fake claim every game from now on lol

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