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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM59: Wizard of Oz Mafia
« on: May 22, 2021, 07:15:16 pm »
/in love the sound of this, though sad oz 2 isn’t also cannon 
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Game Over - Skum Wins!
« on: April 03, 2021, 12:16:39 pm »
What an awesome game!
The first full phase of this game was crazy from a mod perspective! Scum JOAT hard tunneling on the traitor who he figured was a vanilla townie, scummily hammers the town roleblocker who he thought was unfortunately the traitor! Then I target space who I think is the town vigilante that gets protected by robz the town bodyguard all when getting shot myself by the actual town vigilante!
The first full phase of this game was crazy from a mod perspective! Scum JOAT hard tunneling on the traitor who he figured was a vanilla townie, scummily hammers the town roleblocker who he thought was unfortunately the traitor! Then I target space who I think is the town vigilante that gets protected by robz the town bodyguard all when getting shot myself by the actual town vigilante!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 25, 2021, 01:45:56 pm »
Vote: Mathdude
In retrospect the post math made about town power roles screams of traitor as well.
In retrospect the post math made about town power roles screams of traitor as well.
Well, some people are active enough that I could find "reasons" I think pretty much any of them could be scum or reasons any of them could be town. However, there is definitely TONS of useful interactions that have been happening, so that bodes well for tomorrow. Town, we have to carefully use any PR's to make sure the results can be useful not only individually, but also in how the results may interact with those interactions... if that makes any sense. (Getting a read on someone is helpful... but getting a read on someone that you're fairly certain is connected to another someone can be even more useful).
But now I'm torn between 2 options. Do we try to vote someone out who we have mild suspicions of, who we can actually connect their reveal-on-exile to the statements made by others about them on day-1? Or do we just go for the less active lurkers, to make sure they don't just hide through a couple days?Yeah, sorry! Started a re-read of everyone earlier, but didn't finish it before the evening's social calls, and now it's past bedtime. Still have notes in another tab, but it will have to wait till tomorrow at this point. My sanity is on a lot thinner ground than it was in the beforetimes, so bedtime needs to be that bit more strict :-(
vote: Space
Reason: post more!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 25, 2021, 01:13:30 pm »
Intent to hammer
ppe mix how does robz tie into your team theory?
ppe mix how does robz tie into your team theory?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 24, 2021, 08:24:41 pm »Is MiX a better alterative than Robz, if you're looking to grow a second wagon to compete?I think so, yes.
Did you notice that Robz went from saying that he definitely wasn't townreading mcmc, to voting me for "being wrong", and then to unvoting entirely, with no more mention of mcmc at all? I thought that was a bit interesting, especially because the three game posts mcmc made in the intervening time were three of the ones I think I struggle most with seeing a sensible townie narrative for.
These are the three posts you can't see a town narrative for.
I don't think Joth has really done anything scummy.
Do you think he is just doing joth things or do you think the things hes done are towny?
Do you?
I do, joths initial votes for Dylan, gkrieg, and robz all struck me as fishing for wagons, all for generic reasons that he quickly backed off of as soon as the wagons didn’t take off. His lack of acknowledgement to the initial votes on him and then frustration/impressedness at your vote for him (which is a vote that makes him significantly more likely to be exhiled) is good scum tactic.
So I'm fishing for wagons, but when the best and most plausible wagon in the game cropped up (mathdude) I decided to ignore it? And I also passed up an opportunity to hop on the EFHW wagon after being explicitly invited to join it?
Are they both my partners? Or am I just really bad at fishing for wagons?
Fishing for wagons and joining quickly built wagons are two very different things. I think you are good at fishing for wagons safely and are acutely aware/concerned of the attention joining the math wagon would bring on you.
I get disagreeing with my read on joth but you can't find a town narrative? I'm literally explaining my scum read. Also you are mis connecting my post about the day pass to ash I am referring to joth.Why even bother giving out a day pass if it can be revoked at any time? Seems like false advertising.
My thought as well!
Because giving out day passes is a fun laze-fair towny thing to do but he also doesn’t want to count out joining a super quick wagon. Once he can think of a good excuse to that is.
Ok, Robz has basically done nothing so far but townread people and ask naive questions and it's starting to feel off to me. I usually expect a little more robust mafia playing from one of the founding members of this playgroup. Maybe he's doing something different or just rusty from the time off, but I think he's trying to lay low and skate through day 1 and not making any particular effort to scumhunt.
Vote: Robz
I don't hate the mathdude wagon but it just seems too easy and I don't trust it.
Wait. Have you even played with Robz before? Since when does he do things D1?
What do you think of mathdude?
The post raised eyebrows but I would not have expected it to garner three votes in rapid succession. The suggestion of directing town PRs pings us as scummy, but it seems like something a new person might not realize was problematic. And the rest of it just seems like a new person who's frustrated with Day 1 and wants to get things rolling, which is a feeling I can very much relate to.
He's on my radar, but I haven't revoked his day pass.
I wasn't throwing shade at ash, he gave a day pass and then removed it when math did something he found scummy that makes perfect sense. It is joth who I think seconded the "day pass" which is light hearted to appear towny, then didn't want to hard remove it because jumping on the quick math wagon seemed too scummy without a good reason but scum hates to pass up an easy exhile hence him needed to keep his option. Again how you can't see a sensible town narrative from my posting and explaining my scum read is a little over the top.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 24, 2021, 10:08:03 am »Scumslips generally aren't real either, right?
I am guessing by this you mean to indicate that you don't think scumslips are generally a thing and that historically we as a forum have misexhiled more than caught scum off slips and in fact scum frequently uses it to exhile townies who make mistakes. I think while that is historically true its because we play with a similar small group over a long enough time that we learn what things not to do a scum and then in turn use that against townies who don't self edit carefully enough. This is different as it's not someone who would know that mentioning pr's is a big nono for scum and should actually be concerned about mentioning pr's if they are a town one.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 24, 2021, 09:48:04 am »Those are one in the same, the assumption of being alive Day 2 is the mafia slip, and having some kind of result to work with, is the non-vt slip.The TLDR version:Wait, wasn't the argument before that mathdude assumed he would live to play D2? And now it's that he supposedly slipped non-VT? Did you just swap out a decent argument for a worse one?
I think mathdude slipped that they are either mafia or a PR. My bet is most likely mafia, possibly role cop given the "gather information" focus.
(An aside: If I am right about role cop, mafia selected as least one power, and if they took role cop, I'd say they took at least two more. That's all conjecture though, with no evidence.)
If they're town, they have a PR that gets a result, like Goon Cop or maybe Tracker.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 24, 2021, 09:44:59 am »Well you have certainly been busy! I'll try to give some comments as I catch up.I think so because it safely allows scum to find wagons town is willing to be a part of. I get that people like fishy for wagons so they can "catch" scum jumping on in a scummy way but I think it is more likely townies join stupid wagons then scum since they are less worried about the opticits so yea I'm not a fan of wagon fishing for "interactions" sakeIs fishing for wagons a bad thing?I don't think Joth has really done anything scummy.
Do you think he is just doing joth things or do you think the things hes done are towny?
Do you?
I do, joths initial votes for Dylan, gkrieg, and robz all struck me as fishing for wagons, all for generic reasons that he quickly backed off of as soon as the wagons didn’t take off. His lack of acknowledgement to the initial votes on him and then frustration/impressedness at your vote for him (which is a vote that makes him significantly more likely to be exhiled) is good scum tactic.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 23, 2021, 04:07:41 pm »Why even bother giving out a day pass if it can be revoked at any time? Seems like false advertising.
My thought as well!
Because giving out day passes is a fun laze-fair towny thing to do but he also doesn’t want to count out joining a super quick wagon. Once he can think of a good excuse to that is.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 23, 2021, 04:03:53 pm »I don't think Joth has really done anything scummy.
Do you think he is just doing joth things or do you think the things hes done are towny?
Do you?
I do, joths initial votes for Dylan, gkrieg, and robz all struck me as fishing for wagons, all for generic reasons that he quickly backed off of as soon as the wagons didn’t take off. His lack of acknowledgement to the initial votes on him and then frustration/impressedness at your vote for him (which is a vote that makes him significantly more likely to be exhiled) is good scum tactic.
So I'm fishing for wagons, but when the best and most plausible wagon in the game cropped up (mathdude) I decided to ignore it? And I also passed up an opportunity to hop on the EFHW wagon after being explicitly invited to join it?
Are they both my partners? Or am I just really bad at fishing for wagons?
Fishing for wagons and joining quickly built wagons are two very different things. I think you are good at fishing for wagons safely and are acutely aware/concerned of the attention joining the math wagon would bring on you.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 23, 2021, 03:56:05 pm »I don't think Joth has really done anything scummy.
Do you think he is just doing joth things or do you think the things hes done are towny?
Do you?
I do, joths initial votes for Dylan, gkrieg, and robz all struck me as fishing for wagons, all for generic reasons that he quickly backed off of as soon as the wagons didn’t take off. His lack of acknowledgement to the initial votes on him and then frustration/impressedness at your vote for him (which is a vote that makes him significantly more likely to be exhiled) is good scum tactic.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 22, 2021, 08:11:53 pm »I don't think Joth has really done anything scummy.
Do you think he is just doing joth things or do you think the things hes done are towny?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 21, 2021, 04:39:09 pm »Unvote from RVS.
@mathdude, did you in fact find ashersky scummy? He's the only one so far who has pinged any scum bells for me.
Vote: ashersky.
PPE: Yeah, saw that coming...
Ash has not pinged scum bells for me at all. Why do you?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 21, 2021, 09:06:55 am »JothsAre you referring to joht's or MiX's post?Also, though, I am hard townreading Robz this game so he's almost certainly scum. Just FYI.
So are you giving us (read: me) permission to tunnel you hard D1 so you're exiled which means your bad reads will be immortalized, making us (me) take them at face value to then misexile in XiLo? Because I want that permission so badly.
Has Robz even done anything this game? All I remember is him parroting the other game.
Yea not really, this is the typical anyone wanna exhile robz for being robz post.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 21, 2021, 08:54:50 am »Also, though, I am hard townreading Robz this game so he's almost certainly scum. Just FYI.
So are you giving us (read: me) permission to tunnel you hard D1 so you're exiled which means your bad reads will be immortalized, making us (me) take them at face value to then misexile in XiLo? Because I want that permission so badly.
Has Robz even done anything this game? All I remember is him parroting the other game.
Yea not really, this is the typical anyone wanna exhile robz for being robz post.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 21, 2021, 08:32:46 am »
Mathman if you like your vote on Dylan why move to an “I don’t know RVS” vote. That’s moving backwards.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 11:39:10 am »What did I start? A meaningless day 1 wagon?
Oh I actually thought it was a good wagon before you called it meaningless. Let’s start a meaningful one. Vote: joth
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 11:37:58 am »Space. Space don’t work they just say space stinger space
I am finding you quite confusing :-P
Vote: mcmc
Then it’s working! You scum?
Also, hi everyone! Feels like it's been a while!!
Yea I was shocked when robs told me a new game had opened it was only one game after the last one I played feels like it has been a long long time.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 09:41:00 am »Didds don’t be jelly mix and I have a love that’s pure and true. Also what’s the notify button? Me tag, me see posts.
Mathman my guy welcome! I’m in Michigan so we basically live in the same place. Also Robz is my irl brother.
What’s this fall from innocence didds speaks of Dylan?
<3
Probably that Dylan was an IC and isn't anymore.Why wouldn't we be able to talk about it? I am able to talk about it, look: I got Roleblocker last game.Weeeeee I'm in a game!
Robz, were you scum in the first iteration of this?
Can we talk about this? Because that would be a game changer. Did you ask if this was okay already? Seems like a scum move.
Vote: faust
I thoughtFor sake of fairness, let's NOT discuss anything until after the game concludes.
Was absolute, but I guess you can interpret it differently.
Ah the first part makes sense but I didn’t put that together because of the second point which I also thought was a thing.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 09:40:00 am »Mcmc you have offspring? I thought you were a kid yourself!
First mafia posts of mine were made from the backseat of my moms car on the way to college. Now they are made with voice memo’s while holding my nine month daughter. It has been a hell of a journey!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 09:38:34 am »Second edit point am I old?Not as long as you can pull off a hip man bun!
I’m not sure about it anymore to be honest little bun was cute now it’s a little unruly. I really enjoyed a lose French braid through the top into a little bun at the back but my wife said it was unacceptable. Also ponytail headaches are no joke!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 09:10:29 am »
Also Ariana says hi
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 1 HAS BEGUN! AGAIN!
« on: February 20, 2021, 09:10:16 am »
Also vote: robz for posting a picture of me and Ariana with my 70s style quarantine hair and not my awesome hip man bun.