Topic: 7 Wonders IV Game Over - Liopoil wins! (Read 33377 times)

Archetype · « **Reply #275 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:41:17 pm »

Quote from: Twistedarcher on June 22, 2013, 02:37:17 pm

Sorry for not catching that!

We have two options here --

1) Rewind back a turn, since it happened in hand 4. Have Ahoppy make a new selection, then if it affects anything in age 5, people can have a do-over if they'd like.

2) Just let it go, and have Ahoppy keep the duplicate. The science card was going to Tables, Michaeljb, and Qvist, none of whom was building science, so no one was being denied a card they really needed. Ahoppy gets another card which he shouldn't have, but ultimately, as he can't complete his second set, it's only worth 3 points to him.

Please voice which option you'd prefer -- I'll go with the one people view as most fair.

1). It's what we do if a mistake happens IRL.

nkirbit · « **Reply #276 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:41:52 pm »

I vote just keep playing. I'm okay with it (But am okay with either option).

liopoil · « **Reply #277 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:43:09 pm »

Well, I doubt ahoppy building something different might effect anyone but tables, and ahoppy won't use what we built as info. So, I think ahoppy builds something else from hand 3, and anyone can change their hand 4 build if they want. Not perfect, but simple and close enough.

Tables · « **Reply #278 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:46:47 pm »

I believe the official rule is that the card is discarded for 3 coins.

liopoil · « **Reply #279 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:51:57 pm »

ouch, that's harsh, although I guess ahoppy made the mistake too... I dunno...

Tables · « **Reply #280 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:58:56 pm »

Quote from: Tables on June 22, 2013, 02:46:47 pm

I believe the official rule is that the card is discarded for 3 coins.

Having actually looked things up both in the official rules and on BGG, this seems to be a common houserule, or the best interpretation of the rules in dealing with this awkward situation, take your pick. The rules say if you pick a card which you cannot build or cannot use to construct a wonder stage, you must discard it for 3 coins. And that can't build two identical structures. Which is... kind of about as close as it gets. I think the easiest and fairest way is forcing a 3 coin discard, possibly either that or a wonder stage.

I'll also send some extra details to TA about this situation I'd rather not note here (based on the hands I've seen since and other things).

liopoil · « **Reply #281 on:** June 22, 2013, 03:13:56 pm »

hmmm, yeah, now I'm thinking discarding for 3 coins is the best course of action.

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #282 on:** June 22, 2013, 03:28:34 pm »

Ahoppy will discard the second Academy for 3 coins.

I'm really sorry that I missed the error initially, Ahoppy, but this is the fairest way to proceed for everyone. Turning back a turn would change too much with the new information.

Play on!

nkirbit · « **Reply #283 on:** June 22, 2013, 03:49:39 pm »

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables -
Ahoppy -
Archetype -
liopoil -
Nkirbit - DONE

liopoil · « **Reply #284 on:** June 22, 2013, 04:03:33 pm »

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables -
Ahoppy -
Archetype -
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE

AHoppy · « **Reply #285 on:** June 22, 2013, 05:26:14 pm »

Whoops, that's my bad too. I should have noticed that sorry. I'm fine with the discard. No big deal

eHalcyon · « **Reply #286 on:** June 22, 2013, 06:07:29 pm »

Ahh, I noticed that when it was first posted and I was checking on my phone, but then I forgot later. Sorry as well (even though I am just a spectator).

eHalcyon · « **Reply #287 on:** June 22, 2013, 06:11:58 pm »

~~Qvist only has two wonder stages completed, so he should only get 4 coins from Arena, not 6.~~

Edit: wait, I was thinking $2 each, not $3... my bad. Carry on.

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #288 on:** June 22, 2013, 06:12:56 pm »

It's 3 per stage, not 2.

eHalcyon · « **Reply #289 on:** June 22, 2013, 06:14:10 pm »

Yeeeeeah. I realized that a minute after I posted.

AHoppy · « **Reply #290 on:** June 22, 2013, 06:31:06 pm »

Correct me if I'm wrong TA, but I think I sent you my choice already.

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #291 on:** June 22, 2013, 07:08:53 pm »

Yep, I have it!

nkirbit · « **Reply #292 on:** June 22, 2013, 09:23:26 pm »

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE, SENT

michaeljb · « **Reply #293 on:** June 23, 2013, 02:18:58 pm »

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE, SENT

Archetype · « **Reply #294 on:** June 24, 2013, 12:23:57 pm »

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype - DONE
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE, SENT

Qvist · « **Reply #295 on:** June 24, 2013, 12:38:09 pm »

Arena is missing in my play area.

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist - DONE, SENT
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype - DONE
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE, SENT

Qvist · « **Reply #296 on:** June 24, 2013, 12:38:25 pm »

If I copy nkirbit's guild I get 3VP not 9VP, right?

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #297 on:** June 24, 2013, 12:40:21 pm »

Correct.

Archetype · « **Reply #298 on:** June 24, 2013, 12:44:29 pm »

oh yeah. That's right.

Quote from: Age III Card V

Qvist -
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype - DONE, SENT
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE, SENT

Tables · « **Reply #299 on:** June 24, 2013, 01:45:04 pm »

Quote from: Qvist on June 24, 2013, 12:38:09 pm

Arena is missing in my play area.

Quote from: Age III Card V
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables - DONE, SENT
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype - DONE, SENT
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE, SENT

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