Topic: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice (this thread will have current game-states) (Read 31827 times)

shraeye · « **on:** December 30, 2012, 12:07:40 pm »

The powers are:

~~Austria: Robz~~
England: Grujah
France: liopoil
Germany: Jimmmmm
~~Italy: Qvist Person#2 Person#3~~
~~Russia: Davio hyramgraff~~
Turkey: Galzria--WINNER

The starting board is below, see the opening post for some cool Diplomacy resources and tools.

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk).

First deadline is Tuesday, January 8th at 2pm forum time (Early submissions allowed and encouraged; if you change your mind at any time, new moves will be accepted up until I have posted the updated map)

Links

Current state: (Fall 1915)

Total Centers:
~~Austria: Robz 0 centers~~
England: Grujah 12 centers
France: liopoil 3 centers
Germany: Jimmmmm 1 center
~~Italy: Person#3 0 centers~~
~~Russia: hyramgraff 0 centers~~
Turkey: Galzria 18 centers--WINNER

Robz888 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2012, 12:26:21 pm »

Galzria · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2012, 12:26:42 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on December 30, 2012, 12:26:21 pm

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Davio · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2012, 01:07:00 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on December 30, 2012, 12:26:42 pm

Quote from: Robz888 on December 30, 2012, 12:26:21 pm
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Tables · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2012, 01:09:41 pm »

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

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liopoil · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2012, 03:32:04 pm »

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2012, 05:19:33 pm »

Quote from: Davio on December 30, 2012, 01:07:00 pm

Quote from: Galzria on December 30, 2012, 12:26:42 pm
Quote from: Robz888 on December 30, 2012, 12:26:21 pm
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Edit: For my own reference.

shraeye · « **Reply #7 on:** January 02, 2013, 07:17:03 pm »

Can somebody smart help me with how one can put the gamestate into a post without using an attachment that Chrome users can't see?

Tables · « **Reply #8 on:** January 02, 2013, 08:05:30 pm »

If it's a picture, upload it somewhere then put it in with [img] tags.

shraeye · « **Reply #9 on:** January 02, 2013, 08:50:08 pm »

The powers are:

Austria: Robz
England: Grujah
France: liopoil
Germany: Jimmmmm
Italy: Qvist
Russia: Davio
Turkey: Galzria

The starting board is below, see the opening post for some cool Diplomacy resources and tools.

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk).

First deadline is Tuesday, January 8th at 2pm forum time (Early submissions allowed and encouraged; if you change your mind at any time, new moves will be accepted up until I have posted the updated map)

Davio · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2013, 02:11:20 am »

Hey, shraeye, thanks for hosting, but can you put the text for the regions on? You can choose "short labels" and this shows only the three letter abbreviations. I think that's the best way, I don't know all the regions by heart.

You can also save this stuff as default so you don't have to switch it every time you start the program.

shraeye · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2013, 08:57:18 am »

Quote from: Davio on January 03, 2013, 02:11:20 am

Hey, shraeye, thanks for hosting, but can you put the text for the regions on? You can choose "short labels" and this shows only the three letter abbreviations. I think that's the best way, I don't know all the regions by heart.

You can also save this stuff as default so you don't have to switch it every time you start the program.

thanks, I'll fix that up right away.

Davio · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2013, 09:30:20 am »

Quote from: shraeye on January 03, 2013, 08:57:18 am

Quote from: Davio on January 03, 2013, 02:11:20 am
Hey, shraeye, thanks for hosting, but can you put the text for the regions on? You can choose "short labels" and this shows only the three letter abbreviations. I think that's the best way, I don't know all the regions by heart.

You can also save this stuff as default so you don't have to switch it every time you start the program.
thanks, I'll fix that up right away.

Much better, thanks.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2013, 05:25:52 am »

Hi all. Finally finished reading the rules. I have a tentative understanding of the rules, but very little understanding of the strategy. I obviously don't know how much discussion has taken place in the other QTs, but I've said very little in any of mine, please don't hold that against me! I'll try to come up with some reasonable ideas in the next 12 hours or so.

liopoil · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2013, 06:04:28 pm »

Posting to tell you all that I will be submitting my moves for this game later tonight. I do not plan on looking at the QT's tomorrow so this is everyone's last chance if they want to talk me into doing something

shraeye · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2013, 01:30:29 pm »

Friendly reminder that deadline is soon.

shraeye · « **Reply #16 on:** January 08, 2013, 02:44:01 pm »

Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: A Bud-Rum
Aus: F Tri Holds
Aus: A Vie-Bud

Eng: F Edi-NWG
Eng: A Lvp-Yor
Eng: F Lon-NTH

Fra: F Bre-MAO
Fra: A Mar-Spa
Fra: A Par-Pic

Ger: A Ber-Kie
Ger: F Kie-Den
Ger: A Mun-Ruh

Ita: F Nap-ION
Ita: A Rom-Ven
Ita: A Ven-Tyr

Rus: A Mos-Ukr
Rus: F Sev-BLA (Bounce 1v1)
Rus: F StP/sc-BOT
Rus: A War-Gal

Tur: F Ank-BLA (Bounce 1v1)
Tur: A Con-Bul
Tur: A Smy-Con

Maps: (Move results, then current state)

shraeye · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2013, 02:44:31 pm »

Question: should I make those images smaller?

Additionally, since no retreats are necessary, we move immediately into the Fall discussion phase. Deadline is 2pm (forum time) on Friday, Jan 11th.

Davio · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2013, 04:01:16 pm »

For me the image size is OK.

Grujah · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2013, 04:05:56 pm »

for me it is fine, I think Galz is playing from Phone, so you'll want to make sure it's ok with him.

Galzria · « **Reply #20 on:** January 08, 2013, 04:22:19 pm »

It's too large for me to read directly because of forum formatting, however I can open the image link directly and view it separately without issue. So no problems! If you provide the jdip attachments I can just download those and view them straight from my gallery while on the fly - but it's not a huge issue.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #21 on:** January 08, 2013, 08:30:39 pm »

I think the image size is great. It cuts off a little at the right requiring me to scroll, but there's not really anything there so it's all good.

shraeye · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2013, 02:06:03 pm »

dont forget to enter you moooooves...

shraeye · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2013, 02:08:53 pm »

Quote from: shraeye on January 11, 2013, 02:06:03 pm

dont forget to enter you moooooves...

I have enacted a grace period of 24 hours, and have also commenced frowning in disappointment at your timeliness (except the move-enterers, you guys are great).

Qvist · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2013, 05:21:04 pm »

Oh so so sorry, I totally missed that. The last deadline was soo long. Let's give me some secs.

shraeye · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2013, 05:25:10 pm »

Quote from: Qvist on January 11, 2013, 05:21:04 pm

Oh so so sorry, I totally missed that. The last deadline was soo long. Let's give me some secs.

Understandable, I should have emphasized that.

ALL spring deadlines will be on Tuesday.

ALL fall deadlines will be on Friday.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2013, 06:40:21 pm »

Oh wow deadline. Whoops. Entering moves now.

Grujah · « **Reply #27 on:** January 12, 2013, 08:40:43 am »

Quote from: shraeye on January 11, 2013, 02:08:53 pm

Quote from: shraeye on January 11, 2013, 02:06:03 pm
dont forget to enter you moooooves...

I have enacted a grace period of 24 hours, and have also commenced frowning in disappointment at your timeliness (except the move-enterers, you guys are great).

Sorry, was traveling, forgot to submit

shraeye · « **Reply #28 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:50:47 am »

Fall 1901 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: A Bud-Vie
Aus: A Rum Holds (Dislodged 3v1)
Aus: F Tri-Ven (Bounce 1v1) (Dislodged 2v1)

Eng: A Yor-Bel
Eng: F NTH C Yor-Bel
Eng: F NWG-Nwy

Fra: A Spa-Por
Fra: A Pic S Yor-Bel
Fra: F MAO-Spa/sc

Ger: A Ruh-Mun
Ger: A Kie-Hol
Ger: F Den-Swe (Bounce 1v1)

Ita: A Ven S Tyr-Tri
Ita: A Tyr-Tri
Ita: F ION-Tun

Rus: A Ukr-Rum
Rus: F Sev S Ukr-Rum
Rus: A Gal S Ukr-Rum
Rus: F BOT-Swe (Bounce 1v1)

Tur: A Con-Bul
Tur: A Bul-Gre
Tur: F Ank-BLA

Fall 1901 Maps: (Move results, then current state)

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:53:46 am »

Cheers shraeye, thanks heaps for the leniency, I'll try to make sure I'm on time in future.
I don't mean to nitpick, but if possible could you please use the labels on the map? My geography's not terribly flash and they're super useful.

shraeye · « **Reply #30 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:54:38 am »

I'm going to try to accelerate this period a bit, due to the grace period we used.

Robz, please get those retreats in as soon as you can
F Tri has valid retreats of (Alb/ADR)
A Rum has valid retreats of (Bud/Ser)

Deadline for retreats 8pm tonight (forum time); I will push these through as soon as I receive them.

Others can submit builds whenever they want; I will push these through as soon as I receive all builds.

Build deadline 2pm Sunday (forum time)

shraeye · « **Reply #31 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:54:57 am »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on January 12, 2013, 09:53:46 am

Cheers shraeye, thanks heaps for the leniency, I'll try to make sure I'm on time in future.
I don't mean to nitpick, but if possible could you please use the labels on the map? My geography's not terribly flash and they're super useful.

of course, updating now.

Grujah · « **Reply #32 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:57:21 am »

Tally?
Aus - 1
Eng +2
Fra +2
Ger +2
Ita +2
Rus +1
Tur +2

?

liopoil · « **Reply #33 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:59:44 am »

Austria will stay the same in his army in Rumania retreats to Serbia right?

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #34 on:** January 12, 2013, 10:01:23 am »

Poor old Robz. Must feel like he's getting lynched day 1 all over again.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #35 on:** January 12, 2013, 10:03:45 am »

Quote from: shraeye on January 12, 2013, 09:54:57 am

Quote from: Jimmmmm on January 12, 2013, 09:53:46 am
Cheers shraeye, thanks heaps for the leniency, I'll try to make sure I'm on time in future.
I don't mean to nitpick, but if possible could you please use the labels on the map? My geography's not terribly flash and they're super useful.
of course, updating now.

Thanks!

Robz888 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 12, 2013, 12:23:19 pm »

Retreat the Army to Serbia and the Fleet to the Adriatic, please.

shraeye · « **Reply #37 on:** January 12, 2013, 04:03:24 pm »

Units retreated. Build phase on.

Aus: 0 build
Eng: 2 builds
Fra: 2 builds
Ger: 2 builds
Ita: 2 builds
Rus: 1 build
Tur: 2 builds

liopoil · « **Reply #38 on:** January 12, 2013, 04:25:32 pm »

Seems like a lot of builds. is this abnormally high for year one?

All the supply centers are owned except Sweden....

shraeye · « **Reply #39 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:20:55 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on January 12, 2013, 04:25:32 pm

Seems like a lot of builds. is this abnormally high for year one?

I'd say it's not an unusual number. I've seen more and I've seen less.

liopoil · « **Reply #40 on:** January 13, 2013, 05:59:15 pm »

well, there can only ever be one more build than this...

Build deadline was 2pm today right?

Qvist · « **Reply #41 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:20:15 am »

My mistake again. I misread the deadline. I have to be more careful. I send in the build in a few secs.

Ozle · « **Reply #42 on:** January 14, 2013, 04:18:50 am »

Grujah, dont let me down here, make sure you see off those pesky Frenchies!

Grujah · « **Reply #43 on:** January 14, 2013, 12:09:31 pm »

This is taking an awefully long time for just builds.

@lipoil - was the same last game, I think.

liopoil · « **Reply #44 on:** January 14, 2013, 03:32:58 pm »

the French are not pesky!

shraeye · « **Reply #45 on:** January 14, 2013, 07:00:36 pm »

apologies, I got super busy at work today. Will update now, next deadline delayed due to Mod-lateness.

shraeye · « **Reply #46 on:** January 14, 2013, 07:04:40 pm »

Deadline for Spring moves is Wednesday, 2pm forum time.

Maps:

shraeye · « **Reply #47 on:** January 15, 2013, 11:28:00 pm »

Please remember to submit moves by tomorrow.

Qvist · « **Reply #48 on:** January 16, 2013, 05:14:27 am »

Forum time is which time zone? I just don't want to miss the deadline again...

Ozle · « **Reply #49 on:** January 16, 2013, 05:29:46 am »

Quote from: Qvist on January 16, 2013, 05:14:27 am

Forum time is which time zone? I just don't want to miss the deadline again...

in your profile, set the date to Forum default and the offset to 0. Then make a post, that is forum time.

shraeye · « **Reply #50 on:** January 16, 2013, 02:23:30 pm »

Thanks Ozle. For reference, it is currently 2:23 pm forum time.

Moves coming in shortly.

shraeye · « **Reply #51 on:** January 16, 2013, 02:44:00 pm »

Spring 1902 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Ser S Vie-Bud
Aus: A Vie-Bud

Eng: A Bel Holds
Eng: F NTH-HEL
Eng: F Nwy-SKA
Eng: F Lon-NTH
Eng: F Edi-NWG

Fra: A Por-Spa
Fra: A Pic S Par-Bur
Fra: A Par-Bur
Fra: F Spa/sc-WES
Fra: F Mar-LYO

Ger: A Mun S Bel-Bur (Support failed; doesn't match)
Ger: A Hol Holds
Ger: F Ber-BAL
Ger: A Kie-Ruh
Ger: F Den-Swe (Bounce 1v1)

Ita: A Ven-Tyr
Ita: A Tri-Vie
Ita: F Tun-ION
Ita: A Rom-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Ita: A Nap-Apu

Rus: A Rum S Ser (support cut)
Rus: F Sev-BLA (Bounce 1v1)
Rus: A Gal S Rum
Rus: F BOT-Swe (Bounce 1v1)
Rus: A Mos-Ukr

Tur: A Bul-Rum (Bounce 1v2)
Tur: A Gre-Alb
Tur: F BLA S Bul-Rum (Support cut)
Tur: A Ank-Arm
Tur: F Con-AEG

Spring 1902 Moves:

Current season: Fall 1902

Deadline for next season is 11:59pm forum time on Friday. That is in 2 days, 9 hrs, 15minutes.

Grujah · « **Reply #52 on:** January 16, 2013, 07:00:19 pm »

Link rules in first post?

Also, poor robz

shraeye · « **Reply #53 on:** January 16, 2013, 07:13:50 pm »

Good idea. rules, links, current state are all in the opening post.

shraeye · « **Reply #54 on:** January 18, 2013, 08:38:01 am »

Reminder, the fireworks go off at midnight. That's roughly 15.5 hours from now.

shraeye · « **Reply #55 on:** January 19, 2013, 03:12:22 am »

SEND ME MOVES!!

Grujah · « **Reply #56 on:** January 19, 2013, 05:06:54 am »

For me it would be easier if I had a QT for submitting.

shraeye · « **Reply #57 on:** January 19, 2013, 02:14:29 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on January 19, 2013, 05:06:54 am

For me it would be easier if I had a QT for submitting.

Then I can get you exactly that.

shraeye · « **Reply #58 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:10:07 am »

Deadline processes in 30 minutes. I hope to have all orders by then.

shraeye · « **Reply #59 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:54:20 am »

Fall 1902 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR S Ser-Tri
Aus: A Ser-Tri
Aus: A Bud S Ser-Tri

Eng: A Bel-Hol
Eng: F HEL S Bel-Hol
Eng: F NTH S Bel-Hol
Eng: F NWG S NTH
Eng: F Ska-Den (Bounce 1v1)

Fra: A Bur-Bel
Fra: F LYO-TYS
Fra: A Pic S Bur-Bel
Fra: A Spa-Tun (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: F WES C Spa-Tun

Ger: F BAL Holds
Ger: A Hol Holds (Dislodged 3v1)
Ger: F Den Holds
Ger: A Ruh Holds
Ger: A Mun Holds

Ita: A Apu-Ven
Ita: F ION-Tun (Bounce 1v1)
Ita: A Rom S Apu-Ven
Ita: A Tyr-Tri (Bounce 2v3)
Ita: A Vie S Tyr-Tri

Rus: A Gal S Rum
Rus: F BOT-Swe
Rus: A Rum S Sev (support cut)
Rus: F Sev S Rum (support cut)
Rus: A Ukr S Sev

Tur: A Bul-Rum (Bounce 2v2)
Tur: A Alb-Gre
Tur: F BLA S Bul-Rum
Tur: A Arm-Sev (Bounce 1v2)
Tur: F AEG S Alb-Gre

Fall 1902 Moves:

shraeye · « **Reply #60 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:57:36 am »

The German Army in Holland may retreat to Kie or disband.

Unless I receive other orders by 1pm (forum time) tomorrow, I will assume this unit retreats to Kiel.

1902 builds
France may build 1
Russia may build 1
Germany must remove 1

Deadline: 9pm forum time, Sunday--18 hours from now.

shraeye · « **Reply #61 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:59:37 am »

Current state:

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #62 on:** January 20, 2013, 03:06:06 am »

Dammit. I distinctly remember submitting. But it turns out it didn't go through. Sadface.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #63 on:** January 20, 2013, 03:12:36 am »

All is well, since submitting my moves would have not changed the gamestate. shraeye can put them in if he likes. I'll make sure to hit send next time.

shraeye · « **Reply #64 on:** January 20, 2013, 03:15:55 am »

I will always send a message back that the moves have been received.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #65 on:** January 20, 2013, 03:18:33 am »

Yeah. I got your prompt message, but the message immediately before that said, "moves received.", but I didn't realise that was for last turn. I stuffed up, I know, but it doesn't matter and I'll be super careful in future.

Grujah · « **Reply #66 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:29:39 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on January 20, 2013, 03:12:36 am

All is well, since submitting my moves would have not changed the gamestate. shraeye can put them in if he likes. I'll make sure to hit send next time.

I submitted so that you couldn't dislodge me anywhere, you could have only bounced Russia from swe or moved from bal.

Dunno what your moves exact, I would likely not be against it going through.

liopoil · « **Reply #67 on:** January 20, 2013, 02:32:04 pm »

well if it wouldn't change gamestate than it can't possibly matter...

shraeye · « **Reply #68 on:** January 20, 2013, 03:12:34 pm »

I am leaving things as is. All German units held.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #69 on:** January 20, 2013, 04:32:03 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on January 20, 2013, 02:32:04 pm

well if it wouldn't change gamestate than it can't possibly matter...

No, shraeye's right, there's more to consider than just the gamestate, and he can't verify my moves. For the record:

F Bal S F Bot-Swe
F Den-Kie
A Mun-Kie
A Hol Holds
A Ruh S A Hol

shraeye · « **Reply #70 on:** January 21, 2013, 08:14:00 am »

Builds are in:

Current state:

deadline is Tuesday 4pm forum time. I have high hopes that all orders will be in. please make it so

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #71 on:** January 21, 2013, 07:40:47 pm »

It might just be me, but I'm finding the deadlines a tad short.

shraeye · « **Reply #72 on:** January 21, 2013, 09:33:35 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on January 21, 2013, 07:40:47 pm

It might just be me, but I'm finding the deadlines a tad short.

It's supposed to be 3 days, as the build/retreat phase can be quite quick. But due to lateness before, Fall1902 ended on Saturday evening instead of Friday afternoon. I'm aggressively pushing us back on schedule.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #73 on:** January 21, 2013, 09:34:58 pm »

Fair enough, all good.

Ozle · « **Reply #74 on:** January 22, 2013, 05:56:22 am »

Dear England
Why have you not crushed France yet?
You are not only letting me down, you are letting HISTORY down!
Ozle

Qvist · « **Reply #75 on:** January 22, 2013, 05:07:11 pm »

Shoot. Did I miss deadline again?
I will submit in around half an hour.

I agree that the deadlines are too short, btw.

shraeye · « **Reply #76 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:56:48 am »

Spring 1903 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Tri-Tyr (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Bud-Vie (Bounce 1v1)

Eng: A Hol-Kie (Bounce 1v2)
Eng: F HEL-Den
Eng: F NTH S Hel-Den
Eng: F NWG-Nwy
Eng: F Ska S Hel-Den

Fra: A Bel-Ruh
Fra: A Pic-Bel
Fra: A Mar-Bur
Fra: A Spa-Tun
Fra: F TYS S Spa-Tun
Fra: F WES C Spa-Tun

Ger: F BAL S Den
Ger: A Kie S Den (support cut)
Ger: F Den S Kie (support cut)
Ger: A Mun S Kie

Ita: F ION-Tun[/u] (Bounce 1v2)
Ita: A Rom-Nap
Ita: A Tyr-Tri (Bounce 1v1)
Ita: A Ven S Tyr-Tri (support cut)
Ita: A Vie S Tyr-Tri (support cut)

Rus: A Gal S Rum
Rus: A Rum S Sev (support cut)
Rus: F Sev S Rum (support cut)
Rus: A Ukr S Sev
Rus: A StP-Fin
Rus: F Swe Holds

Tur: F AEG Holds
Tur: A Arm-Sev (Bounce 2v2)
Tur: F BLA S Arm-Sev
Tur: A Bul-Rum (Bounce 1v2)
Tur: A Gre Holds

Spring 1903 Moves:

Current state

Deadline--Saturday 9am forum time. This is 3 days from now. Provisional orders are accepted, the most recent submission at deadline are the moves used.

Grujah · « **Reply #77 on:** January 23, 2013, 09:08:55 am »

I though if he has done A mun Supports A Kie, and A Kie Supports A Den, and I do A bel -> Kie, that support is not cut?

Seems like it is..

shraeye · « **Reply #78 on:** January 23, 2013, 09:25:24 am »

A Bel-Kie cuts all support given from Kiel. (except for support A Kie S xxx-Bel; a province cannot cut support for an attack against itself)

Grujah · « **Reply #79 on:** January 23, 2013, 09:45:30 am »

I though cuz he is supported, I cannot cut unless move with strength of 2. But I guess that's not how it works.

liopoil · « **Reply #80 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:11:48 pm »

so attempting to move into a territory cuts all support given my a unit in that territory, unless the support-cutting unit is dislodged?

Grujah · « **Reply #81 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:24:22 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on January 23, 2013, 04:11:48 pm

so attempting to move into a territory cuts all support given my a unit in that territory, unless the support-cutting unit is dislodged?

attempting to move from territory A into a territory B cuts support given by a unit in territory B, unless unit in territory B gives support to a (another) unit moving into territory A.

liopoil · « **Reply #82 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:27:46 pm »

...which would cause unit A to be dislodged.

shraeye · « **Reply #83 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:32:04 pm »

Not necessarily. The beleaguered unit rule is at least one counter-example.

Example:
Ita: A Pie-Mar
Ita: F LYO S Pie-Mar

Fra: F Mar-LYO

Ger: A Bur-Mar
Ger: A Gas S Bur-Mar

No support gets cut; no units dislodge.

liopoil · « **Reply #84 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:36:15 pm »

ahh yes. this game has almost half as many edge cases as dominion!

Marseilles surrounded on four sides?

. I don't like this example. I'm sure ozle does though.

Davio · « **Reply #85 on:** January 24, 2013, 02:05:37 pm »

I'll be honest to all of you guys, I have no idea what I'm doing.

Anybody want to be my friend?

Galzria · « **Reply #86 on:** January 24, 2013, 02:08:49 pm »

Quote from: Davio on January 24, 2013, 02:05:37 pm

I'll be honest to all of you guys, I have no idea what I'm doing.

Anybody want to be my friend?

I woulda been, but you were all like "If you take that Sea, I'm gonna come kick your butt!" I mean, it's like showing me a giant red button and saying "Now whatever you do, DON'T PRESS THE BUTTON".

Davio · « **Reply #87 on:** January 24, 2013, 02:10:38 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on January 24, 2013, 02:08:49 pm

Quote from: Davio on January 24, 2013, 02:05:37 pm
I'll be honest to all of you guys, I have no idea what I'm doing.

Anybody want to be my friend?

I woulda been, but you were all like "If you take that Sea, I'm gonna come kick your butt!" I mean, it's like showing me a giant red button and saying "Now whatever you do, DON'T PRESS THE BUTTON".

Well, I try to divide and conquer, but I end up dividing and not conquering.

I don't keep grudges though.

Davio · « **Reply #88 on:** January 25, 2013, 02:35:31 pm »

If anyone wants to replace me, they're more than welcome. I mean, sure I'll keep sending moves, but I just don't have the time for advanced scheming at the moment.

Qvist · « **Reply #89 on:** January 26, 2013, 11:59:52 am »

Oh, great. Another time I forgot to send in the moves. Thanks for the reminder, shraeye. I don't know why I tend to forget this game. I will send in the moves in a few minutes.

Grujah · « **Reply #90 on:** January 28, 2013, 09:05:53 am »

shraeye · « **Reply #91 on:** January 28, 2013, 01:36:33 pm »

Oops, sorry. This was a crazy busy weekend; but I guess Jimmm/Qvist just got a longer deadline, so I hope somebody's happier

Fall 1903 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Tri-Tyr (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Bud-Vie (Bounce 1v1)

Eng: A Hol S Den-Kie
Eng: F Den-Kie (Bounce 2v2)
Eng: F NTH S Ska-Den
Eng: F Nwy-Swe (Bounce 1v2)
Eng: F Ska-Den (territory already occupied)

Fra: A Bel-Ruh
Fra: A Bur S Ruh-Mun
Fra: A Ruh-Mun
Fra: A Tun Holds
Fra: F TYS-ION
Fra: F WES-TYS

Ger: F BAL S Kie
Ger: A Kie S Mun (support cut)
Ger: A Mun S Kie (support cut)

Ita: F ION-Nap
Ita: A Nap-Rom
Ita: A Tyr S Mun (support cut)
Ita: A Ven S Tyr (support cut)
Ita: A Vie-Bud (Bounce 1v1)

Rus: A Fin S Swe
Rus: A Gal S Rum
Rus: A Rum S Sev (support cut)
Rus: F Sev S Rum (support cut)
Rus: A Ukr S Sev
Rus: F Swe Holds

Tur: F AEG S Gre
Tur: A Arm-Sev (Bounce 1v2)
Tur: F BLA S Bul-Rum
Tur: A Bul-Rum (Bounce 2v2)
Tur: A Gre Holds

Fall 1903 Moves:

Current state

We're super off-schedule; and I'm going to stop trying to accelerate things.

Retreat Deadline--Tuesday 1pm forum time. This is 1 day from now.
A Mun must disband or retreat to Ber, Sil, Boh.

Build Deadline--1 day from when the retreat is entered.
England: Builds 1
France: Builds 2
Germany: Depends on option after dislodging
Italy: Must disband 1

shraeye · « **Reply #92 on:** January 29, 2013, 05:28:58 pm »

Ger: Mun retreats to Sil.

Get those builds in!

Reminder:
England builds 1
France Builds 2
Germany disbands 1
Italy disbands 1

shraeye · « **Reply #93 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:00:51 am »

1903 adjustments
Eng: Builds A Lon
Fra: Builds A Par
Fra: Builds A Mar
Ger: Removes F BAL
Ita: Removes A Tyr

Moves:

Current state:

Deadline for Spring orders
Saturday Feb 2nd (2pm forum time)

shraeye · « **Reply #94 on:** February 01, 2013, 11:26:25 pm »

Remember, remember, the fifth of November.

And deadlines. But really, just focus on the deadlines for now.

Galzria · « **Reply #95 on:** February 03, 2013, 11:48:33 am »

Shraaaaeyeeee!

Grujah · « **Reply #96 on:** February 03, 2013, 12:04:52 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on February 03, 2013, 11:48:33 am

Shraaaaeyeeee!

Galz is in this game? WOw.

Galzria · « **Reply #97 on:** February 03, 2013, 12:07:20 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 03, 2013, 12:04:52 pm

Quote from: Galzria on February 03, 2013, 11:48:33 am
Shraaaaeyeeee!

Galz is in this game? WOw.

Wait, what? Who are you?

shraeye · « **Reply #98 on:** February 03, 2013, 01:08:56 pm »

Spring 1904 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Tri-Vie (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Bud S Bul-Rum

Eng: F Den-BAL
Eng: A Hol-Kie
Eng: A Lon-Den
Eng: F Nth C Lon-Den
Eng: F Nwy-StP/nc
Eng: F Ska S Lon-Den

Fra: A Bur-Mun
Fra: F Ion S ADR-Apu (Support failed; doesn't match)
Fra: A Mar-Pie
Fra: A Mun-Tyr
Fra: A Par-Gas
Fra: A Ruh S Hol-Kie
Fra: A Tun-Rom (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: F TYS S Tun-Rom

Ger: A Kie-Ber
Ger: A Sil-War

Ita: F Nap Holds
Ita: A Rom Holds
Ita: A Ven Holds
Ita: A Vie Holds

Rus: A Fin S Swe
Rus: A Gal S Rum
Rus: A Rum S Sev (support cut)
Rus: F Sev S Rum (support cut)
Rus: A Ukr S Sev
Rus: F Swe Holds

Tur: F AEG Holds
Tur: A Arm-Sev (Bounce 1v2)
Tur: F BLA S Bul-Rum
Tur: A Bul-Rum
Tur: A Gre-Ser

Spring 1904 Moves:

Current state

A Rum is destroyed.

Fall moves Deadline: Wednesday 2pm forum time.

Davio · « **Reply #99 on:** February 03, 2013, 01:54:14 pm »

I concede, is this possible?

I don't really have time to keep up appearances.

Grujah · « **Reply #100 on:** February 03, 2013, 03:06:00 pm »

Replacement?

shraeye · « **Reply #101 on:** February 03, 2013, 03:25:50 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 03, 2013, 03:06:00 pm

Replacement?

This is an option. I'll look into it. Or else you can just keep sending in hold moves, or kingmake to your heart's content. After all, that's what Diplomacy is about...finding a way to eliminate somebody so graciously, that they'll help you into their own supply centers.

Grujah · « **Reply #102 on:** February 03, 2013, 03:32:30 pm »

Well, if you continue to just send in supports and holds, that plays highly in my favor..

Grujah · « **Reply #103 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:39:08 pm »

What the status with Davio?

Davio · « **Reply #104 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:47:40 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 05, 2013, 03:39:08 pm

What the status with Davio?

Sorry, still no time.

Just do all Holds for me.

liopoil · « **Reply #105 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:51:04 pm »

This knowledge very unfairly benefits grujah and galzria.

Davio · « **Reply #106 on:** February 05, 2013, 03:52:35 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 05, 2013, 03:51:04 pm

This knowledge very unfairly benefits grujah and galzria.

Well yeah, a replacement would be better.

shraeye · « **Reply #107 on:** February 05, 2013, 04:34:14 pm »

There is a replacement for Davio, thank you to hyramgraff

The deadline will be adjusted to allow hyramgraff time to properly take control of Russia. Current deadline is whichever is later between {Thursday 2pm forum time} and {hyramgraff submits orders}

Grujah · « **Reply #108 on:** February 05, 2013, 05:42:07 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 05, 2013, 03:51:04 pm

This knowledge very unfairly benefits grujah and galzria.

I though we were allies!

liopoil · « **Reply #109 on:** February 05, 2013, 05:53:23 pm »

shhhhh don't tell anyone... and I still don't want you getting an unfair advantage. I don't want you running away with the game, nor do I want the game to be altered by something similar to luck. I'd say the same if it was me getting the advantage.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #110 on:** February 05, 2013, 10:15:13 pm »

Hi all,

I'm a bit surprised that I got Russia. With all the hold orders from them, I thought I would be taking over Italy.

It's late here, so I will be responding to private messages tomorrow.

Davio · « **Reply #111 on:** February 06, 2013, 02:41:16 am »

Hey, thanks for stepping in.

Again sorry guys that I can't see this one through. I'm in too many games already, but this was the biggest time eater and if I couldn't keep up with the messages, I felt it was better to step out entirely.

Grujah · « **Reply #112 on:** February 06, 2013, 01:27:30 pm »

Quote from: hyramgraff on February 05, 2013, 10:15:13 pm

Hi all,

I'm a bit surprised that I got Russia. With all the hold orders from them, I thought I would be taking over Italy.

It's late here, so I will be responding to private messages tomorrow.

DId you get QT links?

shraeye · « **Reply #113 on:** February 06, 2013, 01:34:20 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 06, 2013, 01:27:30 pm

Quote from: hyramgraff on February 05, 2013, 10:15:13 pm
Hi all,

I'm a bit surprised that I got Russia. With all the hold orders from them, I thought I would be taking over Italy.

It's late here, so I will be responding to private messages tomorrow.

DId you get QT links?

yes, he has them.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #114 on:** February 06, 2013, 03:58:42 pm »

I have sent in an initial set of orders.

If anyone is concerned by that, you know how to communicate with me.

Galzria · « **Reply #115 on:** February 07, 2013, 11:38:26 am »

Quote from: shraeye on February 05, 2013, 04:34:14 pm

There is a replacement for Davio, thank you to hyramgraff

The deadline will be adjusted to allow hyramgraff time to properly take control of Russia. Current deadline is whichever is later between {Thursday 2pm forum time} and {hyramgraff submits orders}

Oooh, 2 hours now...!

/excited

shraeye · « **Reply #116 on:** February 07, 2013, 11:46:37 am »

Quote from: Galzria on February 07, 2013, 11:38:26 am

Quote from: shraeye on February 05, 2013, 04:34:14 pm
There is a replacement for Davio, thank you to hyramgraff

The deadline will be adjusted to allow hyramgraff time to properly take control of Russia. Current deadline is whichever is later between {Thursday 2pm forum time} and {hyramgraff submits orders}

Oooh, 2 hours now...!

/excited

The question is, whether I'll be on time this deadline or not.

Galzria · « **Reply #117 on:** February 07, 2013, 11:55:41 am »

Quote from: shraeye on February 07, 2013, 11:46:37 am

Quote from: Galzria on February 07, 2013, 11:38:26 am
Quote from: shraeye on February 05, 2013, 04:34:14 pm
There is a replacement for Davio, thank you to hyramgraff

The deadline will be adjusted to allow hyramgraff time to properly take control of Russia. Current deadline is whichever is later between {Thursday 2pm forum time} and {hyramgraff submits orders}

Oooh, 2 hours now...!

/excited
The question is, whether I'll be on time this deadline or not.

You could always be early

liopoil · « **Reply #118 on:** February 07, 2013, 01:16:44 pm »

early? what a silly idea.

Galzria · « **Reply #119 on:** February 07, 2013, 02:19:05 pm »

Tick-Tock!

shraeye · « **Reply #120 on:** February 07, 2013, 02:28:13 pm »

Quote from: Galzria on February 07, 2013, 02:19:05 pm

Tick-Tock!

Indeed!

shraeye · « **Reply #121 on:** February 07, 2013, 02:48:10 pm »

Also, I have a stand-in making moves for Italy. He's not totally interested in committing to the game, so he'll be entering moves without sending press. If you want me to relay a message to him, that's cool.

So until further notice, RL friend replaces Qvist as Italy. You can send messages to him through me; but he's unlikely to respond

Qvist · « **Reply #122 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:02:37 pm »

That's totally fine, sorry about any inconvenience.

Galzria · « **Reply #123 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:04:11 pm »

All these posts....

That aren't updates!

/goescrazy

It's like, my most anticipated game update every 3 days!

shraeye · « **Reply #124 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:45:16 pm »

Fall 1904 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Tri S Bud-Ser
Aus: A Bud-Ser

Eng: F BAL-Ber
Eng: A Den S Ska-Swe
Eng: A Kie S BAL-Ber
Eng: F Nth-Nwy
Eng: F Ska-Swe (Bounce 2v2)
Eng: F StP/nc Holds

Fra: A Gas-Bur
Fra: A Mun-Boh
Fra: A Pie-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: A Tyr S Pie-Ven (dislodged)
Fra: A Ruh-Bel
Fra: F Ion C Tun-Nap
Fra: A Tun-Nap (Bounce 2v2)
Fra: F TYS S Tun-Nap

Ger: A Ber Holds (dislodged)
Ger: A War Holds (dislodged)

Ita: F Nap S Rom (support cut)
Ita: A Rom S Nap
Ita: A Ven-Tyr
Ita: A Vie S Ven-Tyr

Rus: A Fin S Swe
Rus: A Gal S Ukr-War
Rus: F Sev Holds (dislodged)
Rus: A Ukr-War
Rus: F Swe Holds

Tur: F AEG-Gre
Tur: A Arm-Sev
Tur: F BLA S Arm-Sev
Tur: A Rum-Ukr
Tur: A Ser S Rum (support failed; doesn't match)

Fall 1904 Moves:

Current state

Retreat Deadline: Friday 8pm forum time.(this is one day from now)
Ger: A Ber must disband, or retreat to Pru, Sil, Mun.
Ger: A War must disband, or retreat to Pru, Sil, Lvn, Mos.
Rus: F Sev must disband, or retreat to Rum.
Tur: A Ser must disband, or retreat to Rum, Bul, Alb
Fra: A Tyr must disband, or retreat to Mun

(I find it necessary here to remind players to PM me their retreats privately. If two units attempt to retreat to the same province, they will both be disbanded.)

Grujah · « **Reply #125 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:48:52 pm »

What happens if both ber and tyr try to retreat to mun?

shraeye · « **Reply #126 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:51:06 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 07, 2013, 03:48:52 pm

What happens if both ber and tyr try to retreat to mun?

Diese Antwort ist schon angegeben.

Grujah · « **Reply #127 on:** February 07, 2013, 03:52:22 pm »

Quote from: shraeye on February 07, 2013, 03:51:06 pm

Quote from: Grujah on February 07, 2013, 03:48:52 pm
What happens if both ber and tyr try to retreat to mun?

Diese Antwort ist schon angegeben.

Who reads reminder text anyway? Duh.

shraeye · « **Reply #128 on:** February 08, 2013, 11:57:51 am »

Fall 1904 retreats
Fra: Tyr-Mun (disbanded)
Ger: Ber-Mun (disbanded)
Ger: War-Mos
Rus: Sev-Rum
Tur: Ser-Bul

Winter 1904
Austria: 3 centers
England: 9 centers; 3 units may be built
France: 8 centers; 1 unit may be built
Germany: 1 center
Italy: 4 centers
Russia: 3 centers; 2 units must be removed
Turkey: 6 centers; 1 unit may be built

Build deadline: Saturday 10pm forum time--In 1 day, 10 hours

Grujah · « **Reply #129 on:** February 08, 2013, 12:02:12 pm »

This is going to be a fun year, I assume

shraeye · « **Reply #130 on:** February 08, 2013, 12:26:19 pm »

Diplomacy is a crazy game.
For reference, here are 7 games I recently played (one as each power) during their W1904 phase.

Average centers:
3.86 (StdDev--3.13) Austria
4.29 (StdDev--1.89) England
4.57 (StdDev--1.51) France
6.86 (StdDev--1.21) Germany
5.00 (StdDev--1.63) Italy
4.29 (StdDev--2.56) Russia
5.14 (StdDev--2.54) Turkey

Yeah, on board 1, that's my Austrian fleet out in MAO. That was an unusual game for me.

liopoil · « **Reply #131 on:** February 08, 2013, 12:46:43 pm »

where'd you play all those games?

in the first one it looks like you have to disband two. Were you cruel enough to destroy that poor fleet all alone in the MAO?

Grujah · « **Reply #132 on:** February 08, 2013, 12:56:42 pm »

Sadly, F.DS Dip1 has no pictures left, but I think this was the point where shra and I erased Austria after my stab.

shraeye · « **Reply #133 on:** February 08, 2013, 02:30:04 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 08, 2013, 12:46:43 pm

where'd you play all those games?

in the first one it looks like you have to disband two. Were you cruel enough to destroy that poor fleet all alone in the MAO?

An email judge server. I ended up disbanding Ser and Alb, and kept Greece and the Mid-Atlantic fleet. It didn't end well

shraeye · « **Reply #134 on:** February 10, 2013, 10:52:37 pm »

1904 adjustments
Eng: Builds A Lvp
Eng: Builds F Lon
Eng: Builds F Edi

Fra: Builds A Mar

Rus: Removes A Gal
Rus: Removes F Rum

Tur: Builds F Smy

Current state

Spring 1905 Deadline:
let's aim for Wednesday 10pm forum time (2 days 23 hrs from now)

hyramgraff · « **Reply #135 on:** February 12, 2013, 02:19:49 pm »

The Russian embassies have been busy delivering messages. I eagerly await your replies.

shraeye · « **Reply #136 on:** February 13, 2013, 09:14:27 am »

remember to send me in some moves, and all that jazz.

Galzria · « **Reply #137 on:** February 14, 2013, 09:35:03 am »

Quote from: shraeye on February 13, 2013, 03:57:20 pm

I feel this deadline may actually be observed

shraeye · « **Reply #138 on:** February 14, 2013, 11:17:03 am »

indeed. I had such high hopes for this one.

Grujah · « **Reply #139 on:** February 14, 2013, 06:08:22 pm »

Sorry for delay, i made an some illegal orders (mixed teritory names, and something with coastal borders).

Fixed.

shraeye · « **Reply #140 on:** February 14, 2013, 06:41:30 pm »

Sorry, I have to wait until after a tennis match to process. But orders are currently locked.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #141 on:** February 14, 2013, 06:45:05 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 14, 2013, 06:08:22 pm

Sorry for delay, i made an some illegal orders (mixed teritory names, and something with coastal borders).

Fixed.

Your fleet at the north coast of stp can't go to the same places that a fleet at the south coast of stp could. Spain also has a north and south coast, but that hasn't come up yet in this game.

liopoil · « **Reply #142 on:** February 14, 2013, 07:27:00 pm »

well, at one point I did MAO-SPAsc so that I could go to the western mediteranean later, which is what happened.

shraeye · « **Reply #143 on:** February 14, 2013, 09:19:19 pm »

ugh; I apparently don't remember how to play tennis.

shraeye · « **Reply #144 on:** February 14, 2013, 09:35:46 pm »

Spring 1905 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Aus: A Tri-Vie (Bounce 1v2)
Aus: A Ser-Rum (Bounce 1v2)

Eng: F Ber-BAL
Eng: A Den-Swe
Eng: F Edi-NTH
Eng: A Kie-Hol
Eng: A Lvp-Wal
Eng: F Lon-ENG
Eng: F Nwy S Den-Swe
Eng: F SKA S Den-Swe
Eng: F StP/nc S Nwy

Fra: A Bel-Bur
Fra: A Boh-Vie
Fra: A Bur-Mun
Fra: F ION C Tun-Nap
Fra: A Mar-Pie
Fra: A Pie-Tus
Fra: A Tun-Nap
Fra: F TYS S Tun-Nap

Ger: A Mos S Ukr (support failed; doesn't match)

Ita: F Nap S TYS-ION (support failed; doesn't match)
Ita: A Rom-Ven (Bounce 1v1)
Ita: A Tyr S Vie-Tri
Ita: A Vie-Tri

Rus: A Fin S Swe-Nwy
Rus: A War S Mos
Rus: F Swe-Nwy (Bounce 2v2)

Tur: F BLA-Con
Tur: A Bul S Sev-Rum
Tur: F Gre Holds
Tur: A Sev-Rum
Tur: F Smy-AEG
Tur: A Ukr-Gal

Spring 1905 Moves:

Current state

Retreat Deadline: Friday 8pm forum time.(this is one day from now)
Rus: F Swe must disband, or retreat to GoB.
Aus: A Tri must disband, or retreat to Bud, Alb
Ita: F Nap must disband, or retreat to Apu

liopoil · « **Reply #145 on:** February 14, 2013, 09:58:20 pm »

stabby stabby!

hyramgraff · « **Reply #146 on:** February 15, 2013, 10:49:40 am »

Is there even a gob on the map?

I retreat to bot.

shraeye · « **Reply #147 on:** February 15, 2013, 11:06:08 am »

Gulf of Bothnia. Sometimes called GoB. Or BOT.

shraeye · « **Reply #148 on:** February 15, 2013, 11:10:33 am »

Retreats:

Tri-Bud
Swe-BOT
Nap-Apu.

Current state:

Fall1905 Deadline: Monday 11pm forum time.(this is 3.5 days from now)

shraeye · « **Reply #149 on:** February 18, 2013, 12:15:27 pm »

yeah, we got some deadlines tonight!

liopoil · « **Reply #150 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:17:43 am »

Grujah, galzria, Jimmmmm, Hyramgraff, TheMunch, and Robz888 have been eliminated for missing the deadline. Liopoil wins!

shraeye · « **Reply #151 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:39:58 am »

I'm pretty sure everybody's missed some of the deadlines. Expect action later today, though. Whether or not moves are in. Uhoh, threats of strictness. I wonder if I'll follow through?

liopoil · « **Reply #152 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:52:26 am »

I only missed one. By about one hour.

shraeye · « **Reply #153 on:** February 19, 2013, 09:59:46 am »

Man, I should have been keeping track of cumulative lateness.

shraeye · « **Reply #154 on:** February 19, 2013, 03:51:13 pm »

Fall 1905 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: F ADR Holds
Aus: A Bud Holds (dislodged; 2v1)
Aus: A Ser Holds

Eng: F BAL-Kie
Eng: F ENG C Wal-Bre
Eng: A Wal-Bre
Eng: A Hol S NTH-Bel
Eng: F NTH-Bel
Eng: F Nwy S StP/nc
Eng: F SKA S Swe
Eng: F StP/nc Holds (dislodged; 3v2)
Eng: A Swe Holds

Fra: A Bur-Bel (Bounce 1v2)
Fra: F ION-Apu (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: A Nap S TYS-Rom
Fra: F TYS-Rom
Fra: A Tus-Ven
Fra: A Pie S Tus-Ven
Fra: A Vie-Tri (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: A Mun-Tyr

Ger: A Mos S Fin-StP

Ita: F Apu S Rom-Ven (support cut)
Ita: A Rom-Ven (Bounce 1v2)
Ita: A Tri S Tyr-Vie
Ita: A Tyr-Vie

Rus: A Fin-StP
Rus: F BOT S Fin-StP
Rus: A War-Sil

Tur: F AEG-ION
Tur: F Gre S AEG-ION
Tur: A Rum S Gal-Bud
Tur: A Gal-Bud
Tur: A Bul-Ser (Bounce 1v1)
Tur: F Con-AEG

Fall 1905 Moves:

Current state

Retreat Deadline: Wednesday 4pm forum time.(this is one day from now)
Eng: F StP/nc must disband, or retreat to BAR.
Fra: A Vie must disband, or retreat to Boh, Gal
Fra: F ION must disband, or retreat to Tun, TYS, Alb, EAS
Ita: A Rom must disband, or retreat to Tus

Grujah · « **Reply #155 on:** February 19, 2013, 06:21:19 pm »

Can we get the count on how much builds is each country expected to get?
It will help me decide on that fleet..

shraeye · « **Reply #156 on:** February 19, 2013, 06:30:03 pm »

Yes, assuming all pieces stay on the board here are the totals

Winter 1905
Austria: 1 center; 1 unit must be removed
England: 11 centers; 2 units may be built
France: 9 centers; 1 unit may be built
Germany: 1 center
Italy: 2 centers; 2 units must be removed
Russia: 2 centers; 1 unit must be removed
Turkey: 8 centers; 2 units may be built

shraeye · « **Reply #157 on:** February 19, 2013, 11:10:48 pm »

retreats are in.

F StP/nc-Bar
A Vie-Boh
F ION-TYS
A Rom-Tus

Current state:

Building phase has started. Deadline is Thursday 11am forum time (1.5 days from now) or whenever all builds are in.

shraeye · « **Reply #158 on:** February 21, 2013, 09:09:55 pm »

Sorry, I got caught up in work today.

Builds are done!
Aus: Removes F adr
Eng: Builds F edi
Eng: Builds F lon
Fra: Builds A mar
Ita: Removes F apu
Ita: Removes A tus
Rus: Removes F bot
Tur: Builds A con
Tur: Builds A smy

Current state:

Spring 1906 deadline: Sunday 11pm forum time.(this is 3 days from now)

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #159 on:** February 22, 2013, 09:38:41 am »

I love how the map looks with no labels. It really is so much nicer. Unfortunately, I can't really manage without them. Would you mind putting them back in? Thanks!

shraeye · « **Reply #160 on:** February 22, 2013, 12:27:46 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on February 22, 2013, 09:38:41 am

I love how the map looks with no labels. It really is so much nicer. Unfortunately, I can't really manage without them. Would you mind putting them back in? Thanks!

Arg! I'm always forgetting them!

liopoil · « **Reply #161 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:46:27 pm »

Unit count:

England: 11
France: 9
Turkey: 8
Russia/Italy: 2
Germany/Austria: 1

anyone wanna help me bring down Grujah?

Galzria · « **Reply #162 on:** February 23, 2013, 09:15:37 pm »

Man, why is the deadline here Sunday and not Saturday? :sadface:

shraeye · « **Reply #163 on:** February 24, 2013, 12:31:29 am »

So people can send in orders. The number of orders I have now is a prime number, but isn't 7.

Grujah · « **Reply #164 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:47:23 am »

Quote from: shraeye on February 24, 2013, 12:31:29 am

So people can send in orders. The number of orders I have now is a prime number, but isn't 7.

1?

liopoil · « **Reply #165 on:** February 24, 2013, 10:12:01 am »

that's not prime...

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #166 on:** February 24, 2013, 08:39:21 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 24, 2013, 09:47:23 am

Quote from: shraeye on February 24, 2013, 12:31:29 am
So people can send in orders. The number of orders I have now is a prime number, but isn't 7.

1?

No I think it's probably 0.

liopoil · « **Reply #167 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:21:38 pm »

I am 100% certain it is now at least 3.

Galzria · « **Reply #168 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:38:12 pm »

I would hazard that your statement, if it wasn't true before, now puts us at 4 or 6.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #169 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:55:31 pm »

Sorry for the delay. I've now sent in my orders.

Galzria · « **Reply #170 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:20:18 pm »

:sadface:

shraeye · « **Reply #171 on:** February 25, 2013, 07:03:41 pm »

Spring 1906 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: A Ser Holds

Eng: F BAR-StP/nc (Bounce 2v2)
Eng: F Nwy S BAR-StP/nc
Eng: A Swe-Fin
Eng: F SKA-Den
Eng: F Kie-Ber (Bounce 1v1)
Eng: A Hol-Bel
Eng: F Bel-Pic
Eng: A Bre S Bel-Pic
Eng: F ENG-MAO
Eng: F Lon-ENG
Eng: F Edi-NTH

Fra: A Bur-Par
Fra: A Mar-Spa
Fra: A Pie-Mar
Fra: A Ven Holds
Fra: A Tyr-Mun
Fra: A Boh-Vie (Bounce 1v2)
Fra: F Rom-Nap
Fra: A Nap-Tun
Fra: F TYS C Nap-Tun

Ger: A Mos S StP

Ita: A Vie S Tri (support cut)
Ita: A Tri S Vie

Rus: A Sil-Ber (Bounce 1v1)
Rus: A StP Holds

Tur: A Bud Holds
Tur: A Rum-Ukr
Tur: A Bul-Rum
Tur: A Con-Bul
Tur: A Smy-Gre
Tur: F AEG C Smy-Gre
Tur: F Gre-Alb
Tur: F ION-ADR

Spring 1906 Moves:

Current state

Fall 1906 Move Deadline: Thursday 7pm forum time.(this is 3 days from now)

liopoil · « **Reply #172 on:** February 25, 2013, 07:15:31 pm »

perfect

hyramgraff · « **Reply #173 on:** February 28, 2013, 10:17:17 am »

Reminder to everyone else, orders are due tonight.

Galzria · « **Reply #174 on:** February 28, 2013, 06:50:39 pm »

Deaaaadliiiiine approaching!

shraeye · « **Reply #175 on:** February 28, 2013, 07:16:03 pm »

Fall 1906 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Aus: A Ser Holds (Dislodged; destroyed)

Eng: F BAR S Fin-StP
Eng: F Nwy S Fin-StP
Eng: A Fin-StP
Eng: F Den-BAL
Eng: F Kie-Ber (Bounce 1v2)
Eng: A Bel-Ruh
Eng: F NTH-Bel
Eng: F Pic S ENG-Bre
Eng: F ENG-Bre
Eng: A Bre-Gas
Eng: F MAO S Bre-Gas

Fra: A Par-Bre (Bounce 1v2)
Fra: A Spa-Por
Fra: A Mar-Spa
Fra: A Tun-NAf
Fra: F TYS-WES
Fra: F Nap-Ion (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: A Ven S Tri
Fra: A Mun S Sil-Ber
Fra: A Boh-Sil

Ger: A Mos-War

Ita: A Tri S Vie (support cut)
Ita: A Vie S Tri

Rus: A Sil-Ber
Rus: A StP-Mos

Tur: A Ukr-Sev
Tur: A Rum S Bud
Tur: A Bul S Gre-Ser
Tur: A Gre-Ser
Tur: A Bud S Alb-Tri
Tur: F Alb-Tri (Bounce 3v3)
Tur: F ADR S Alb-Tri
Tur: F AEG-ION (Bounce 1v1)

Fall 1906 Moves:

Current state

Winter 1906 Build Deadline: Friday 8pm forum time.(this is 1 day from now)
Austria: 0 centers
England: 11 centers
France: 9 centers
Germany: 1 center
Italy: 2 centers
Russia: 2 centers
Turkey: 9 centers; 1 unit may be built

shraeye · « **Reply #176 on:** February 28, 2013, 07:16:29 pm »

All orders were in on time, huzzah! Also, Austria makes the first exit.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #177 on:** February 28, 2013, 07:17:47 pm »

Poor old Robz!

shraeye · « **Reply #178 on:** February 28, 2013, 07:53:41 pm »

Winter 1906
Tur: Build F Smy

Current state:

Spring 1907 Deadline: Sunday 8pm forum time.(this is 3 days from now)

shraeye · « **Reply #179 on:** February 28, 2013, 07:55:52 pm »

Funny story, due to Robz being eliminated, my jDip file ran into an error and the old game file has been irreparably destroyed. So now I'm running the 2nd edition of this game. Apparently the program got very upset that you mean people eliminated Robz.

liopoil · « **Reply #180 on:** February 28, 2013, 09:05:03 pm »

I do not like that fleet in smyrna. It scares me.

Grujah · « **Reply #181 on:** February 28, 2013, 10:36:18 pm »

You guys know that Turkey is way bigger threat than I am?

He gets vie and tri with no effort if you continue stomping me, and doesn't have "too many fleets" problem.

Grujah · « **Reply #182 on:** February 28, 2013, 10:36:58 pm »

Can reach tun too.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #183 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:39:58 pm »

He's also a better diplomat.

Galzria · « **Reply #184 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:51:02 pm »

Quote from: Grujah on February 28, 2013, 10:36:18 pm

You guys know that Turkey is way bigger threat than I am?

He gets vie and tri with no effort if you continue stomping me, and doesn't have "too many fleets" problem.

Interesting new Avitar.

And you're always out to turn the board on me. It's the same thing you did last game!

Now, you're two supplies ahead of me. And the rest of Austria isn't going to be as easy to take as you make it sound. Eventually? Sure, I hope so. But that's probably two years worth of effort. Just to get caught up to you. As if you would sit still during that time.

And then you expect me to... What? Crunch France in Italy? Sure... While I'm battling my way through him there you just mosey on around Spain methodically taking territory after territory. No Army? All Fleet? Too bad all those French territories are all landlocked... Oh wait...

Galzria · « **Reply #185 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:52:22 pm »

I think given your weakness on land Mr. England, that it makes far more sense for me to finish with Austria and then march onto the former territories of Germany that you now occupy.

liopoil · « **Reply #186 on:** March 01, 2013, 07:38:33 am »

I expect turkey to crunch france in italy

. I mean, what else could that fleet in smyrna be for?

I would agree with galzria being ahead of england. I am far behind both of you though. I have very little opportunity to gain supply centers and have a ton to defend. All 9 of my centers are potentially subject to capture.

Because turkey is winning, I would like to negotiate a ceasfire in france. Neither of us are going to get anywhere.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #187 on:** March 01, 2013, 10:13:34 am »

Good game Austria. Thank you for helping me reach my goal of not being eliminated first.

Also, only one unit was dislodged this entire year. That seems like a surprisingly low number.

Galzria · « **Reply #188 on:** March 03, 2013, 11:07:54 pm »

Booo

shraeye · « **Reply #189 on:** March 04, 2013, 03:30:23 pm »

Spring 1907 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Eng: F BAR Holds
Eng: A StP-Mos (Bounce 1v1)
Eng: F Nwy-Nwg
Eng: F BAL S Kie-Ber
Eng: F Kie-Ber
Eng: F Bel-NTH
Eng: F Pic-ENG
Eng: A Ruh-Kie
Eng: F Bre Holds
Eng: A Gas Holds
Eng: F MAO Holds

Fra: A Sil-Mun
Fra: A Mun-Tyr
Fra: A Ven S Tri (support cut)
Fra: F Nap-ION (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: A Par-Bur
Fra: A Spa-Gas (Bounce 1v1)
Fra: F WES C NAf-Spa
Fra: A NAf-Spa (Failed; country not clear)
Fra: A Por S NAf-Spa

Ger: A War S Rum-Gal

Ita: A Tri S Vie (support cut; destroyed)
Ita: A Vie S Tri

Rus: A Ber S Mun (move doesn't match)
Rus: A Mos S War (support cut)

Tur: A Sev-Mos (Bounce 1v1)
Tur: A Bul-Ser
Tur: A Rum-Gal
Tur: F Smy-EAS
Tur: F AEG-ION (Bounce 1v1)
Tur: F Alb S Ser-Tri
Tur: A Bud S Ser-Tri
Tur: A Ser-Tri
Tur: F ADR-Ven (Bounce 1v1)

Spring 1907 Moves:

Current state

Spring 1907 Retreat Deadline: Tuesday 3pm forum time.(this is 1 day from now)
A Ber must retreat to either Pru/Sil, or come off the board.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #190 on:** March 04, 2013, 03:38:05 pm »

I retreat to sil.

shraeye · « **Reply #191 on:** March 04, 2013, 03:47:01 pm »

Y'all heard the man; he's in Sil!

shraeye · « **Reply #192 on:** March 04, 2013, 03:48:20 pm »

Fall 1907 Deadline: Thursday 4pm forum time (that's in 3 days!)

shraeye · « **Reply #193 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:01:10 pm »

Fall 1907 Orders: (Failed orders underlined)
Eng: A StP-Mos (bounce 1v1)
Eng: F NWG Holds
Eng: F NTH C Gas-Den
Eng: F MAO C A Gas-Den
Eng: A Kie -> Lvn
Eng: A Gas -> Den
Eng: F ENG C A Gas-Den
Eng: F Bre Holds
Eng: F Ber Holds
Eng: F BAR Holds
Eng: F BAL C Kie-Lvn

Fra: F WES-Spa/sc (bounce 1v1)
Fra: A Ven S Vie-Tri (fails; move doesn't match)
Fra: A Tyr S Ven
Fra: A Spa-Mar
Fra: A Por-Spa (bounce 1v1)
Fra: A NAf-Tun
Fra: F Nap-Apu
Fra: A Mun S Sil-Ber (fails; move doesn't match)
Fra: A Bur-Par

Ger: A War-Mos (bounce 2v2)

Ita: A Vie Holds (dislodged)

Rus: A Sil S Mos-War
Rus: A Mos-War (bounce 2v2)

Tur: A Tri-Vie
Tur: A Sev S War-Mos
Tur: A Ser-Tri
Tur: A Gal S Tri-Vie
Tur: F EAS-ION
Tur: A Bud S Tri-Vie
Tur: F Alb S Ser-Tri
Tur: F AEG S EAS-ION
Tur: F ADR-Ven (bounce 1v1)

Fall 1907 Moves:

Current state

Italy disbands the unit in Vienna.

Winter 1907 Build Deadline: Friday 6pm forum time.(this is 1 day from now)
Austria: 0 centers
England: 12 centers; 1 unit may be built
France: 9 centers
Germany: 1 center
Italy: 0 centers
Russia: 1 center; 1 unit must disband
Turkey: 11 centers; 2 units may be built

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #194 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:12:04 pm »

And then there were 5.
Good bye Qvist. Uh, Person#2? Person#3??? Who the heck was Italy?

liopoil · « **Reply #195 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:28:18 pm »

another one bites the dust...

how long will russia and germany survive for?

I could have taken belgium and kiel but didn't. I thought about it for a while but decided not to because you could retaliate next year. You're welcome grujah.

in other news, spa, mar, por, par, and mun are finally safe. venice on the other hand...

my money is on turkey.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #196 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:29:32 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on March 07, 2013, 06:28:18 pm

how long will ~~russia and~~ germany survive for?

Forever!

liopoil · « **Reply #197 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:30:27 pm »

hey grujah, wanna build your army in edinburgh, not london? token of good faith to insure our new peace continues. oh, and this allows you to convoy to stp leaving nth free to do something else.

Grujah · « **Reply #198 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:41:28 pm »

Why didn't sil cut gal?

SIgh.

Grujah · « **Reply #199 on:** March 07, 2013, 06:42:30 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on March 07, 2013, 06:30:27 pm

hey grujah, wanna build your army in edinburgh, not london? token of good faith to insure our new peace continues. oh, and this allows you to convoy to stp leaving nth free to do something else.

"Fra: A Mun S Sil-Ber (fails; move doesn't match)"

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