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Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« on: October 12, 2012, 12:48:53 pm »



If you fool me once, shame on you; if you fool me twice, it's Diplomacy!

I'm taking over leadership of GMing this game.  It didn't look like anyone else was willing to do it, so I assume there are no complaints.  This will be a standard game of Diplomacy, no variants (barring overwhelming support for a particular variant from the players).  I liked the way Davio handled it, so in homage to his prowess, I'm basically going to steal his intro-post and method of running the game.

General details:
  • 2 seasons (= 1 year) per week (actual deadlines will be determined later)
  • It will be a standard game with positions drawn from my imaginary bag (online randomizer)
  • I will be using an offline Judge program called jDip to enter and resolve all the moves
  • Experience with Diplomacy will be useful, but it's not required, just make sure you know the rules

What I need is basically 7 people willing to play. Signups will be closed next weekend (the 20th of October sometime). If we don't reach 7 players, I may consider some variant for less people, but will push for more people to signup. If we get more than 7 players, the winners will be drawn from my magical bag.

So if this seems like fun to you, just post that you're willing to play and you're (almost) in!

Links

There are most definitely other resources for strategy around the internet.  Here are two site where you can research to your heart's content.  But let me emphasize that knowing good strategy and doing well are two totally different beasts.  Diplomacy with fellow players is infinitely more important than knowing 5 different opening variations.  Lots of strategy tips have self-confirmation bias.  Maybe people say that Turkey-Austria is a super tough alliance to pull off and maybe it's true.  But I bet that it would be easier to do if both players hadn't read an article saying that it was tough.

Players signed up for random draw:
  • Galzria
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  • Jimmmmm
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 12:51:54 pm »

Damn my traveling! How long has this been here? /in!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 12:52:42 pm »

Almost exactly 3 minutes.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 12:54:28 pm »

Galz is really losing his touch. :-\
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2012, 01:02:19 pm »

Almost exactly 3 minutes.

Galz is really losing his touch. :-\

I know, right? 3 whole minutes... Damn my slowness! Who knows what could've happened in that time?

Seriously though, just good timing. ;D
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 01:03:13 pm »

In.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2012, 01:03:42 pm »

I also have a sixth sense about these things.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2012, 03:46:13 pm »

/in.

/out if there is more than 7 people, and Qvist is one of them, so that he doesn't get the short straw again.

And that first strategy site you linked came in quite handy last game. Read on general strategy and on your country strat to know what to expect.

Also, among last page in rule book, there is one with "22 rules", it is also a great reminder.

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2012, 03:48:52 pm »

Don't worry about there being too many people.  I will run the randomizer until the first result in which Qvist is playing (assuming he signs up).
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2012, 03:49:26 pm »

/out, as I won't have time, but I will be watching again with great interest.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2012, 03:49:58 pm »

Also, I'll open a separate QT for each country, to talk there, so that people can later see what was going on. Others are welcomed to do so too.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2012, 02:14:40 pm »

/out, as I won't have time, but I will be watching again with great interest.

Aww, c'mon! You know you want in! It takes so little out of your day to play. It's a lot like CE or Resistance in that respect. It's a little busier at the start, but dies down as the game goes on.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2012, 03:29:06 pm »

Yeah, it starts off sort of busy, it can take a lot of idle thought, but you really don't NEED to dedicate that much time to it.  I say he plays!
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 11:04:43 pm »

Bump-a-bump.  Would love more entrants.  This is a fun game.  Would an adjustement in Davio's schedule (Friday is Spring adjudication with Saturday for retreats, Monday is Fall adjudication with Tuesday for retreats and Wednesday--if needed--for builds) make anybody more interested in playing?
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 02:38:45 pm »

I'm surprised to see so little interest! This game should be right down the alley of f.DS members! It's pure Strategy with 0 elements of randomness. And at it's heart it's a very basic game! What's more, it's extremely challenging, a great mind game, and takes very little time! C'mon people, sign up!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 02:52:56 pm »

later today if I have time, I'll check the other thread to see who said they woudl be /in but haven't shown up yet.  Also, I don't htink Qvist has even signed up yet.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 12:19:13 pm »

This thread needs a hearty bump and more signups.  I would love to request the right from Theory to advertise in a General Discussion thread.  Many people may have blocked this part of the forums because they didn't want to see pages and pages of mafia games that they weren't even playing.

But Diplomacy is a super fun game.  It is strongly competing for my attention with other things.  Just like with mafia, I keep signing up for more games (I'm currently playing 2 games at a different website, and am in signups for a 3rd.)  Seriously, it's awesome.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 01:12:52 pm »

You can make a post in the Other Board Games section.  At least some of those that block Forum Games do so out of disinterest in all Forum Games, not just Mafia.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 01:28:42 pm »

Thanks, I realized that was true, but I almost considered blocking the forum games section due to Mafia pages that I wasn't reading.  Then I played my first game of Diplomacy, and decided you guys were cool, and I wanted to try a mafia game as well.  The rest is history.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 08:47:22 am »

The eternal optimist in me must Bump this in hopes that it's life on the second page is what's causing it no success.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2012, 08:09:13 pm »

Bump; here is an enjoyable game to try over the holidays.  There are 4 open spots.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2012, 01:59:35 am »

You know that I'm /in if there is someone needed, right?

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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2012, 05:07:23 am »

I'm in, but if I miss to meet a deadline, don't feel bad about making my units abandon all hope in civil disobedience.
Meaning: I have a 4 months old kid, sometimes I'll forget or don't have time. :)
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2012, 10:45:04 am »

Huzzah! Only 2 open spots left!  Come sign up, this is a joyous way to spend some holidays.
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Re: Diplomacy 2: Fool Me Twice
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2012, 11:55:18 am »

Wow you guys have been waiting a while for this. Just today my girlfriend suggested getting this for me for Christmas, so I decided to look it up. And huzzah here it is in the Forum Games.

Sure, why not? /in
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