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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2016, 12:31:35 pm »
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Question for Qvist: When we submit, does it automatically submit the rankings of all kingdom cards?  I have time to rank the individual categories, but I think the all-kingdom-card ranking will remain incomplete.

I also ran into a bug earlier, where my rankings kept on getting jumbled.  I'm pretty sure it's because I had two tabs open, one for favorite cards, one for best cards, and was doing them simultaneously.  So, uh, don't do that.  Luckily I copy my list over to a spreadsheet.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2016, 12:38:53 pm »
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Question for Qvist: When we submit, does it automatically submit the rankings of all kingdom cards?  I have time to rank the individual categories, but I think the all-kingdom-card ranking will remain incomplete.

I also ran into a bug earlier, where my rankings kept on getting jumbled.  I'm pretty sure it's because I had two tabs open, one for favorite cards, one for best cards, and was doing them simultaneously.  So, uh, don't do that.  Luckily I copy my list over to a spreadsheet.

You submit when you are ready with all the cards.
Having two tabs open shouldn't be a problem, especially with separate lists. Not sure what you mean with "getting jumbled". If you do compare mode the order changes quite a lot after each vote, so that's normal.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2016, 01:59:34 pm »
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Thanks again for this great work! I love to do the rankings so much. And now, there are 3 of them! :-D Ich think, my studies have to wait for the next days :-D

Do you have any idea how many duells there will be, when I do the duells of all cards?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2016, 02:02:16 pm »
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Thanks again for this great work! I love to do the rankings so much. And now, there are 3 of them! :-D Ich think, my studies have to wait for the next days :-D

Do you have any idea how many duells there will be, when I do the duells of all cards?

Not exactly, but a lot, I'm pretty sure over 1000.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2016, 02:20:12 pm »
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So are you only allowed to submit ranking/rating, or can you do both?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2016, 02:30:45 pm »
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So are you only allowed to submit ranking/rating, or can you do both?

Well if I allow you to submit both which one should I count?
No, you are only to submit one, that's why I even didn't give you the option to submit both.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2016, 02:54:47 pm »
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Thanks again for this great work! I love to do the rankings so much. And now, there are 3 of them! :-D Ich think, my studies have to wait for the next days :-D

Do you have any idea how many duells there will be, when I do the duells of all cards?

Not exactly, but a lot, I'm pretty sure over 1000.


Actually quite more than that, if you consider there's around 400 cards, that would result in around 80 thousand duels! So I really think that's quite an unpractical way, if you wanna rate all the cards. There might be an algorithm to make this number quite smaller (something like: if card A beats card B and Card B beats card, then card A automatically beats card C) but I[m not sure there is one.

On another note, had quite of a good time rating these yesterday, still haven't reached my final rankings yet though. It[s my first year doing these and I would like to thank Qvist for all your hard work putting these up! ^^
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2016, 03:04:46 pm »
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Thanks again for this great work! I love to do the rankings so much. And now, there are 3 of them! :-D Ich think, my studies have to wait for the next days :-D

Do you have any idea how many duells there will be, when I do the duells of all cards?

Not exactly, but a lot, I'm pretty sure over 1000.

Actually quite more than that, if you consider there's around 400 cards, that would result in around 80 thousand duels! So I really think that's quite an unpractical way, if you wanna rate all the cards. There might be an algorithm to make this number quite smaller (something like: if card A beats card B and Card B beats card, then card A automatically beats card C) but I[m not sure there is one.

On another note, had quite of a good time rating these yesterday, still haven't reached my final rankings yet though. It[s my first year doing these and I would like to thank Qvist for all your hard work putting these up! ^^

First, it's 300 cards (299 to be exact) and second, yeah the algorithm is already optimized for as few duels as possible. No way it's 80000.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2016, 03:22:24 pm »
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Thanks again for this great work! I love to do the rankings so much. And now, there are 3 of them! :-D Ich think, my studies have to wait for the next days :-D

Do you have any idea how many duells there will be, when I do the duells of all cards?

Not exactly, but a lot, I'm pretty sure over 1000.

Actually quite more than that, if you consider there's around 400 cards, that would result in around 80 thousand duels! So I really think that's quite an unpractical way, if you wanna rate all the cards. There might be an algorithm to make this number quite smaller (something like: if card A beats card B and Card B beats card, then card A automatically beats card C) but I[m not sure there is one.

On another note, had quite of a good time rating these yesterday, still haven't reached my final rankings yet though. It[s my first year doing these and I would like to thank Qvist for all your hard work putting these up! ^^

First, it's 300 cards (299 to be exact) and second, yeah the algorithm is already optimized for as few duels as possible. No way it's 80000.

In the art rankings there are 394 different cards and I actually tried doing it by duels yesterday, since I thought it was easier to judge the art that way, but after some 400ish duels and apparently going nowhere, I gave up on it... hehe
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2016, 03:52:04 pm »
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My - rankings:

1.) Peasant   [X]
2.) Page   [X]
3.) Chapel   [X]
4.) Alms   [X]
5.) Stonemason   [X]
6.) Borrow   [X]
7.) Coin of the Realm   [X]
8.) Fool's Gold   [X]
9.) Delve   [X]
10.) Encampment   [X]
11.) Raze   [X]
12.) Hamlet   [X]
13.) Save   [X]
14.) Squire   [X]
15.) Ratcatcher   [X]
16.) Scouting Party   [X]
17.) Candlestick Maker   [X]
18.) Poor House   [X]
19.) Lighthouse   [X]
20.) Beggar   [X]
21.) Advance   [X]
22.) Crossroads   [X]
23.) Pawn   [X]
24.) Embargo   [X]
25.) Settlers   [X]
26.) Courtyard   [X]
27.) Patrician   [X]
28.) Vagrant   [X]
29.) Cellar   [X]
30.) Moat   [X]
31.) Herbalist   [X]
32.) Travelling Fair   [X]
33.) Native Village   [X]
34.) Haven   [X]
35.) Tax   [X]
36.) Quest   [X]
37.) Duchess   [X]
38.) Secret Chamber   [X]
39.) Pearl Diver   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2016, 04:01:56 pm »
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this is the list as i did it with ratings, so imagine everything has error bars of like 20 places if you weren't doing that already
Code: [Select]
1.) Donate   [X]
2.) Masquerade   [X]
3.) Ambassador   [X]
4.) Cultist   [X]
5.) Chapel   [X]
6.) Mountebank   [X]
7.) Goons   [X]
8.) King's Court   [X]
9.) Remake   [X]
10.) Witch   [X]
11.) Wharf   [X]
12.) Peasant   [X]
13.) Page   [X]
14.) Rebuild   [X]
15.) Junk Dealer   [X]
16.) Upgrade   [X]
17.) Tournament   [X]
18.) Governor   [X]
19.) Urchin   [X]
20.) Steward   [X]
21.) Young Witch   [X]
22.) Grand Market   [X]
23.) City Quarter   [X]
24.) Ghost Ship   [X]
25.) Scrying Pool   [X]
26.) Sea Hag   [X]
27.) Forager   [X]
28.) Triumph   [X]
29.) Torturer   [X]
30.) Fishing Village   [X]
31.) Stonemason   [X]
32.) Vineyard   [X]
33.) Bridge   [X]
34.) Menagerie   [X]
35.) Hermit   [X]
36.) Swindler   [X]
37.) Horn of Plenty   [X]
38.) Ironmonger   [X]
39.) Gear   [X]
40.) Delve   [X]
41.) Margrave   [X]
42.) Counterfeit   [X]
43.) Royal Blacksmith   [X]
44.) Overlord   [X]
45.) Wandering Minstrel   [X]
46.) Amulet   [X]
47.) Hamlet   [X]
48.) Highway   [X]
49.) Bustling Village   [X]
50.) Minion   [X]
51.) Hunting Party   [X]
52.) Familiar   [X]
53.) Jack of all Trades   [X]
54.) Mission   [X]
55.) Bridge Troll   [X]
56.) Advance   [X]
57.) Peddler   [X]
58.) Herald   [X]
59.) Fortune   [X]
60.) Ferry   [X]
61.) Throne Room   [X]
62.) Squire   [X]
63.) Port   [X]
64.) Alms   [X]
65.) Inheritance   [X]
66.) Dominate   [X]
67.) Chariot Race   [X]
68.) Raze   [X]
69.) Royal Carriage   [X]
70.) Lost Arts   [X]
71.) Swamp Hag   [X]
72.) Gladiator   [X]
73.) Border Village   [X]
74.) Militia   [X]
75.) Smithy   [X]
76.) Archive   [X]
77.) Marauder   [X]
78.) Pathfinding   [X]
79.) Village   [X]
80.) Envoy   [X]
81.) Magpie   [X]
82.) Salt the Earth   [X]
83.) Lighthouse   [X]
84.) Borrow   [X]
85.) Dungeon   [X]
86.) Enchantress   [X]
87.) Wild Hunt   [X]
88.) Worker's Village   [X]
89.) Butcher   [X]
90.) Black Market   [X]
91.) Legionary   [X]
92.) Coin of the Realm   [X]
93.) Quarry   [X]
94.) Knights   [X]
95.) Crown   [X]
96.) Courtyard   [X]
97.) Encampment   [X]
98.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
99.) Patrician   [X]
100.) Watchtower   [X]
101.) Fortress   [X]
102.) Storyteller   [X]
103.) Bonfire   [X]
104.) Count   [X]
105.) Emporium   [X]
106.) Charm   [X]
107.) Villa   [X]
108.) Training   [X]
109.) Summon   [X]
110.) Ranger   [X]
111.) Altar   [X]
112.) Haggler   [X]
113.) Fool's Gold   [X]
114.) Groundskeeper   [X]
115.) Bazaar   [X]
116.) Conquest   [X]
117.) Lost City   [X]
118.) Plaza   [X]
119.) Save   [X]
120.) Distant Lands   [X]
121.) Apprentice   [X]
122.) Bandit Camp   [X]
123.) Conspirator   [X]
124.) Hireling   [X]
125.) Temple   [X]
126.) Farmers' Market   [X]
127.) Native Village   [X]
128.) Laboratory   [X]
129.) Apothecary   [X]
130.) Seaway   [X]
131.) Farming Village   [X]
132.) Haunted Woods   [X]
133.) Catapult   [X]
134.) Spice Merchant   [X]
135.) Tax   [X]
136.) Scheme   [X]
137.) Golem   [X]
138.) Expedition   [X]
139.) Transmogrify   [X]
140.) Mining Village   [X]
141.) Fairgrounds   [X]
142.) Settlers   [X]
143.) Plunder   [X]
144.) Ritual   [X]
145.) Monument   [X]
146.) Miser   [X]
147.) Stables   [X]
148.) Walled Village   [X]
149.) Band of Misfits   [X]
150.) Warehouse   [X]
151.) Library   [X]
152.) Capital   [X]
153.) Ratcatcher   [X]
154.) Forum   [X]
155.) Castles   [X]
156.) Wedding   [X]
157.) Giant   [X]
158.) Advisor   [X]
159.) Ill-Gotten Gains   [X]
160.) Salvager   [X]
161.) Relic   [X]
162.) Soothsayer   [X]
163.) Windfall   [X]
164.) Treasure Trove   [X]
165.) Sacrifice   [X]
166.) Doctor   [X]
167.) Embassy   [X]
168.) Shanty Town   [X]
169.) Caravan   [X]
170.) Council Room   [X]
171.) Engineer   [X]
172.) Procession   [X]
173.) Lookout   [X]
174.) Rabble   [X]
175.) Ironworks   [X]
176.) Ball   [X]
177.) Plan   [X]
178.) Duplicate   [X]
179.) City   [X]
180.) Candlestick Maker   [X]
181.) Nobles   [X]
182.) Banquet   [X]
183.) Moneylender   [X]
184.) Tactician   [X]
185.) Catacombs   [X]
186.) Journeyman   [X]
187.) University   [X]
188.) Merchant Guild   [X]
189.) Trading Post   [X]
190.) Market Square   [X]
191.) Annex   [X]
192.) Festival   [X]
193.) Alchemist   [X]
194.) Forge   [X]
195.) Artificer   [X]
196.) Baker   [X]
197.) Oracle   [X]
198.) Crossroads   [X]
199.) Pilgrimage   [X]
200.) Cutpurse   [X]
201.) Market   [X]
202.) Vault   [X]
203.) Horse Traders   [X]
204.) Wine Merchant   [X]
205.) Guide   [X]
206.) Inn   [X]
207.) Loan   [X]
208.) Prince   [X]
209.) Possession   [X]
210.) Rocks   [X]
211.) Wishing Well   [X]
212.) Jester   [X]
213.) Storeroom   [X]
214.) Bishop   [X]
215.) Pawn   [X]
216.) Remodel   [X]
217.) Develop   [X]
218.) Rogue   [X]
219.) Scouting Party   [X]
220.) Oasis   [X]
221.) Trade   [X]
222.) Armory   [X]
223.) Caravan Guard   [X]
224.) Baron   [X]
225.) Travelling Fair   [X]
226.) Graverobber   [X]
227.) Cartographer   [X]
228.) Poor House   [X]
229.) Expand   [X]
230.) Vagrant   [X]
231.) Trade Route   [X]
232.) Quest   [X]
233.) Silk Road   [X]
234.) Bank   [X]
235.) Mystic   [X]
236.) Outpost   [X]
237.) Pillage   [X]
238.) Duke   [X]
239.) Messenger   [X]
240.) Venture   [X]
241.) Nomad Camp   [X]
242.) Scavenger   [X]
243.) Mint   [X]
244.) Death Cart   [X]
245.) Tunnel   [X]
246.) Trader   [X]
247.) Gardens   [X]
248.) Island   [X]
249.) Talisman   [X]
250.) Feodum   [X]
251.) Raid   [X]
252.) Haven   [X]
253.) Smugglers   [X]
254.) Embargo   [X]
255.) Hoard   [X]
256.) Rats   [X]
257.) Merchant Ship   [X]
258.) Contraband   [X]
259.) Harem   [X]
260.) Taxman   [X]
261.) Cellar   [X]
262.) Masterpiece   [X]
263.) Workshop   [X]
264.) Farmland   [X]
265.) Treasury   [X]
266.) Noble Brigand   [X]
267.) Herbalist   [X]
268.) Beggar   [X]
269.) Moat   [X]
270.) Explorer   [X]
271.) Treasure Map   [X]
272.) Pirate Ship   [X]
273.) Tribute   [X]
274.) Sage   [X]
275.) Coppersmith   [X]
276.) Counting House   [X]
277.) Navigator   [X]
278.) Duchess   [X]
279.) Great Hall   [X]
280.) Stash   [X]
281.) Harvest   [X]
282.) Royal Seal   [X]
283.) Saboteur   [X]
284.) Philosopher's Stone   [X]
285.) Mine   [X]
286.) Fortune Teller   [X]
287.) Spy   [X]
288.) Thief   [X]
289.) Pearl Diver   [X]
290.) Woodcutter   [X]
291.) Mandarin   [X]
292.) Cache   [X]
293.) Feast   [X]
294.) Secret Chamber   [X]
295.) Chancellor   [X]
296.) Bureaucrat   [X]
297.) Adventurer   [X]
298.) Transmute   [X]
299.) Scout   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2016, 04:18:26 pm »
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So in 'rate mode', we can leave it blank if we don't know the card.  How do we do that in 'order mode'?

And re: ranking Landmarks (although those are actually some of the things I don't want to rank)... My only problem with rating them as "how much they impact the game", or "how much they alter conventional strategy", is that that is just a different thing than being good.  Take a card like Stonemason -- it impacts a lot of games it's in, in that it causes games to end in 3-piles much more often, therefore significantly changing the flow of the game.  But it itself is not very good (in my opinion).  And so should I rank it high or low?  I'd say low.  Same could be said about Landmarks.

Ranking a Landmark just feels like ranking a Province to me.  It's a way to get VP, equally available to all players in all games it's in.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2016, 04:30:40 pm »
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this is the list as i did it with ratings, so imagine everything has error bars of like 20 places if you weren't doing that already
Code: [Select]
1.) Donate   [X]
2.) Masquerade   [X]
3.) Ambassador   [X]
4.) Cultist   [X]
5.) Chapel   [X]
6.) Mountebank   [X]
7.) Goons   [X]
8.) King's Court   [X]
9.) Remake   [X]
10.) Witch   [X]
11.) Wharf   [X]
12.) Peasant   [X]
13.) Page   [X]
14.) Rebuild   [X]
15.) Junk Dealer   [X]
16.) Upgrade   [X]
17.) Tournament   [X]
18.) Governor   [X]
19.) Urchin   [X]
20.) Steward   [X]
21.) Young Witch   [X]
22.) Grand Market   [X]
23.) City Quarter   [X]
24.) Ghost Ship   [X]
25.) Scrying Pool   [X]
26.) Sea Hag   [X]
27.) Forager   [X]
28.) Triumph   [X]
29.) Torturer   [X]
30.) Fishing Village   [X]
31.) Stonemason   [X]
32.) Vineyard   [X]
33.) Bridge   [X]
34.) Menagerie   [X]
35.) Hermit   [X]
36.) Swindler   [X]
37.) Horn of Plenty   [X]
38.) Ironmonger   [X]
39.) Gear   [X]
40.) Delve   [X]
41.) Margrave   [X]
42.) Counterfeit   [X]
43.) Royal Blacksmith   [X]
44.) Overlord   [X]
45.) Wandering Minstrel   [X]
46.) Amulet   [X]
47.) Hamlet   [X]
48.) Highway   [X]
49.) Bustling Village   [X]
50.) Minion   [X]
51.) Hunting Party   [X]
52.) Familiar   [X]
53.) Jack of all Trades   [X]
54.) Mission   [X]
55.) Bridge Troll   [X]
56.) Advance   [X]
57.) Peddler   [X]
58.) Herald   [X]
59.) Fortune   [X]
60.) Ferry   [X]
61.) Throne Room   [X]
62.) Squire   [X]
63.) Port   [X]
64.) Alms   [X]
65.) Inheritance   [X]
66.) Dominate   [X]
67.) Chariot Race   [X]
68.) Raze   [X]
69.) Royal Carriage   [X]
70.) Lost Arts   [X]
71.) Swamp Hag   [X]
72.) Gladiator   [X]
73.) Border Village   [X]
74.) Militia   [X]
75.) Smithy   [X]
76.) Archive   [X]
77.) Marauder   [X]
78.) Pathfinding   [X]
79.) Village   [X]
80.) Envoy   [X]
81.) Magpie   [X]
82.) Salt the Earth   [X]
83.) Lighthouse   [X]
84.) Borrow   [X]
85.) Dungeon   [X]
86.) Enchantress   [X]
87.) Wild Hunt   [X]
88.) Worker's Village   [X]
89.) Butcher   [X]
90.) Black Market   [X]
91.) Legionary   [X]
92.) Coin of the Realm   [X]
93.) Quarry   [X]
94.) Knights   [X]
95.) Crown   [X]
96.) Courtyard   [X]
97.) Encampment   [X]
98.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
99.) Patrician   [X]
100.) Watchtower   [X]
101.) Fortress   [X]
102.) Storyteller   [X]
103.) Bonfire   [X]
104.) Count   [X]
105.) Emporium   [X]
106.) Charm   [X]
107.) Villa   [X]
108.) Training   [X]
109.) Summon   [X]
110.) Ranger   [X]
111.) Altar   [X]
112.) Haggler   [X]
113.) Fool's Gold   [X]
114.) Groundskeeper   [X]
115.) Bazaar   [X]
116.) Conquest   [X]
117.) Lost City   [X]
118.) Plaza   [X]
119.) Save   [X]
120.) Distant Lands   [X]
121.) Apprentice   [X]
122.) Bandit Camp   [X]
123.) Conspirator   [X]
124.) Hireling   [X]
125.) Temple   [X]
126.) Farmers' Market   [X]
127.) Native Village   [X]
128.) Laboratory   [X]
129.) Apothecary   [X]
130.) Seaway   [X]
131.) Farming Village   [X]
132.) Haunted Woods   [X]
133.) Catapult   [X]
134.) Spice Merchant   [X]
135.) Tax   [X]
136.) Scheme   [X]
137.) Golem   [X]
138.) Expedition   [X]
139.) Transmogrify   [X]
140.) Mining Village   [X]
141.) Fairgrounds   [X]
142.) Settlers   [X]
143.) Plunder   [X]
144.) Ritual   [X]
145.) Monument   [X]
146.) Miser   [X]
147.) Stables   [X]
148.) Walled Village   [X]
149.) Band of Misfits   [X]
150.) Warehouse   [X]
151.) Library   [X]
152.) Capital   [X]
153.) Ratcatcher   [X]
154.) Forum   [X]
155.) Castles   [X]
156.) Wedding   [X]
157.) Giant   [X]
158.) Advisor   [X]
159.) Ill-Gotten Gains   [X]
160.) Salvager   [X]
161.) Relic   [X]
162.) Soothsayer   [X]
163.) Windfall   [X]
164.) Treasure Trove   [X]
165.) Sacrifice   [X]
166.) Doctor   [X]
167.) Embassy   [X]
168.) Shanty Town   [X]
169.) Caravan   [X]
170.) Council Room   [X]
171.) Engineer   [X]
172.) Procession   [X]
173.) Lookout   [X]
174.) Rabble   [X]
175.) Ironworks   [X]
176.) Ball   [X]
177.) Plan   [X]
178.) Duplicate   [X]
179.) City   [X]
180.) Candlestick Maker   [X]
181.) Nobles   [X]
182.) Banquet   [X]
183.) Moneylender   [X]
184.) Tactician   [X]
185.) Catacombs   [X]
186.) Journeyman   [X]
187.) University   [X]
188.) Merchant Guild   [X]
189.) Trading Post   [X]
190.) Market Square   [X]
191.) Annex   [X]
192.) Festival   [X]
193.) Alchemist   [X]
194.) Forge   [X]
195.) Artificer   [X]
196.) Baker   [X]
197.) Oracle   [X]
198.) Crossroads   [X]
199.) Pilgrimage   [X]
200.) Cutpurse   [X]
201.) Market   [X]
202.) Vault   [X]
203.) Horse Traders   [X]
204.) Wine Merchant   [X]
205.) Guide   [X]
206.) Inn   [X]
207.) Loan   [X]
208.) Prince   [X]
209.) Possession   [X]
210.) Rocks   [X]
211.) Wishing Well   [X]
212.) Jester   [X]
213.) Storeroom   [X]
214.) Bishop   [X]
215.) Pawn   [X]
216.) Remodel   [X]
217.) Develop   [X]
218.) Rogue   [X]
219.) Scouting Party   [X]
220.) Oasis   [X]
221.) Trade   [X]
222.) Armory   [X]
223.) Caravan Guard   [X]
224.) Baron   [X]
225.) Travelling Fair   [X]
226.) Graverobber   [X]
227.) Cartographer   [X]
228.) Poor House   [X]
229.) Expand   [X]
230.) Vagrant   [X]
231.) Trade Route   [X]
232.) Quest   [X]
233.) Silk Road   [X]
234.) Bank   [X]
235.) Mystic   [X]
236.) Outpost   [X]
237.) Pillage   [X]
238.) Duke   [X]
239.) Messenger   [X]
240.) Venture   [X]
241.) Nomad Camp   [X]
242.) Scavenger   [X]
243.) Mint   [X]
244.) Death Cart   [X]
245.) Tunnel   [X]
246.) Trader   [X]
247.) Gardens   [X]
248.) Island   [X]
249.) Talisman   [X]
250.) Feodum   [X]
251.) Raid   [X]
252.) Haven   [X]
253.) Smugglers   [X]
254.) Embargo   [X]
255.) Hoard   [X]
256.) Rats   [X]
257.) Merchant Ship   [X]
258.) Contraband   [X]
259.) Harem   [X]
260.) Taxman   [X]
261.) Cellar   [X]
262.) Masterpiece   [X]
263.) Workshop   [X]
264.) Farmland   [X]
265.) Treasury   [X]
266.) Noble Brigand   [X]
267.) Herbalist   [X]
268.) Beggar   [X]
269.) Moat   [X]
270.) Explorer   [X]
271.) Treasure Map   [X]
272.) Pirate Ship   [X]
273.) Tribute   [X]
274.) Sage   [X]
275.) Coppersmith   [X]
276.) Counting House   [X]
277.) Navigator   [X]
278.) Duchess   [X]
279.) Great Hall   [X]
280.) Stash   [X]
281.) Harvest   [X]
282.) Royal Seal   [X]
283.) Saboteur   [X]
284.) Philosopher's Stone   [X]
285.) Mine   [X]
286.) Fortune Teller   [X]
287.) Spy   [X]
288.) Thief   [X]
289.) Pearl Diver   [X]
290.) Woodcutter   [X]
291.) Mandarin   [X]
292.) Cache   [X]
293.) Feast   [X]
294.) Secret Chamber   [X]
295.) Chancellor   [X]
296.) Bureaucrat   [X]
297.) Adventurer   [X]
298.) Transmute   [X]
299.) Scout   [X]

Cool :) Even with those error bars, Masquerade seems awfully high on #2 and Bureaucrat awfully low on #296. Could you elaborate on those two?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2016, 06:23:23 pm »
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Thanks again for this great work! I love to do the rankings so much. And now, there are 3 of them! :-D Ich think, my studies have to wait for the next days :-D

Do you have any idea how many duells there will be, when I do the duells of all cards?

Not exactly, but a lot, I'm pretty sure over 1000.

Actually quite more than that, if you consider there's around 400 cards, that would result in around 80 thousand duels! So I really think that's quite an unpractical way, if you wanna rate all the cards. There might be an algorithm to make this number quite smaller (something like: if card A beats card B and Card B beats card, then card A automatically beats card C) but I[m not sure there is one.

On another note, had quite of a good time rating these yesterday, still haven't reached my final rankings yet though. It[s my first year doing these and I would like to thank Qvist for all your hard work putting these up! ^^

First, it's 300 cards (299 to be exact) and second, yeah the algorithm is already optimized for as few duels as possible. No way it's 80000.

In the art rankings there are 394 different cards and I actually tried doing it by duels yesterday, since I thought it was easier to judge the art that way, but after some 400ish duels and apparently going nowhere, I gave up on it... hehe

Yeah, forgot about the art rankings. There are a lot more cards in this list, there it takes even longer for sure. At least 1500 comparisms is my guess. Nothing I can do, it's already pretty optimised.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2016, 06:24:39 pm »
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So in 'rate mode', we can leave it blank if we don't know the card.  How do we do that in 'order mode'?

You can't directly. I explained it in my video. You can then go to compare mode and delete the cards after ordering them.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2016, 06:38:35 pm »
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Yeah, forgot about the art rankings. There are a lot more cards in this list, there it takes even longer for sure. At least 1500 comparisms is my guess. Nothing I can do, it's already pretty optimised.
If the algorithm is optimized, the average number comparisons is log(N!)/log(2).  Using Stirling's approximation, that's (N ln(N) - N)/ln(2).  For 394 pieces of art, that's about 2800 duels.

The number of clicks required is really quite unfortunate.  It's probably worthwhile to use the rating system first, and then transfer to comparison mode.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2016, 07:11:41 pm »
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Cool :)  Even with those error bars, Masquerade seems awfully high on #2 and Bureaucrat awfully low on #296. Could you elaborate on those two?
  masquerade is busted. draw 2, trash 1 is a force to be reckoned with in and of itself, and the other thing means that your opponent needs to have about 1/4 of the deck be some junk that she can pass. the last 1/4 of junk is a lot less important to get rid of than the first 1/4, but it's still a big deal. again, the thing that effect is sitting on is supergood.
  it's probably the same amount of good as ambassador (or at least it is really hard to know which one is better) but i put masq at the top because it's ~controversial~.
  bureaucrat sucks. its two things are not good individually, and they are also in conflict with each other when you put them on the same card. i don't know where it is within the bottom 20, but it isn't good at all.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2016, 08:26:17 pm »
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2016, 08:32:31 pm »
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doesn't line up exactly with this post, embarrassingly
Code: [Select]
1.) Fairgrounds   [X] 2.) Horn of Plenty   [X]
3.) Witch   [X]
4.) Village   [X]
5.) Distant Lands   [X]
6.) Menagerie   [X]
7.) Steward   [X]
8.) Band of Misfits   [X]
9.) Armory   [X]
10.) Triumph   [X]
11.) Mission   [X]
12.) Library   [X]
13.) Peasant   [X]
14.) Expedition   [X]
15.) Junk Dealer   [X]
16.) Tax   [X]
17.) Settlers   [X]
18.) Alms   [X]
19.) Remake   [X]
20.) Stonemason   [X]
21.) Royal Blacksmith   [X]
22.) Merchant Guild   [X]
23.) Moneylender   [X]
24.) Chariot Race   [X]
25.) Dominate   [X]
26.) Groundskeeper   [X]
27.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
28.) Apprentice   [X]
29.) Ironworks   [X]
30.) Fortress   [X]
31.) Save   [X]
32.) Gladiator   [X]
33.) Wild Hunt   [X]
34.) Altar   [X]
35.) Windfall   [X]
36.) Engineer   [X]
37.) Upgrade   [X]
38.) Bazaar   [X]
39.) Bridge Troll   [X]
40.) Patrician   [X]
41.) Festival   [X]
42.) Haggler   [X]
43.) Farmers' Market   [X]
44.) Bandit Camp   [X]
45.) Annex   [X]
46.) Enchantress   [X]
47.) Royal Carriage   [X]
48.) Workshop   [X]
49.) Capital   [X]
50.) Poor House   [X]
51.) Young Witch   [X]
52.) Hamlet   [X]
53.) Conspirator   [X]
54.) Advance   [X]
55.) Bonfire   [X]
56.) Prince   [X]
57.) Emporium   [X]
58.) University   [X]
59.) Border Village   [X]
60.) Giant   [X]
61.) Archive   [X]
62.) Laboratory   [X]
63.) Chapel   [X]
64.) Donate   [X]
65.) Messenger   [X]
66.) Artificer   [X]
67.) Amulet   [X]
68.) Counterfeit   [X]
69.) Native Village   [X]
70.) Wharf   [X]
71.) Vineyard   [X]
72.) Salvager   [X]
73.) Embargo   [X]
74.) Goons   [X]
75.) Forager   [X]
76.) Envoy   [X]
77.) Bustling Village   [X]
78.) Ironmonger   [X]
79.) Squire   [X]
80.) Harvest   [X]
81.) Black Market   [X]
82.) City Quarter   [X]
83.) Ball   [X]
84.) Ranger   [X]
85.) Butcher   [X]
86.) Storyteller   [X]
87.) Apothecary   [X]
88.) Wandering Minstrel   [X]
89.) Remodel   [X]
90.) Quarry   [X]
91.) Training   [X]
92.) Jester   [X]
93.) Overlord   [X]
94.) Coin of the Realm   [X]
95.) Golem   [X]
96.) Plaza   [X]
97.) Pirate Ship   [X]
98.) Fortune   [X]
99.) Fishing Village   [X]
100.) Charm   [X]
101.) Rabble   [X]
102.) Salt the Earth   [X]
103.) Wine Merchant   [X]
104.) Watchtower   [X]
105.) Candlestick Maker   [X]
106.) Inheritance   [X]
107.) Ambassador   [X]
108.) Forge   [X]
109.) Marauder   [X]
110.) Jack of all Trades   [X]
111.) Crossroads   [X]
112.) Masquerade   [X]
113.) Graverobber   [X]
114.) Fortune Teller   [X]
115.) Port   [X]
116.) Summon   [X]
117.) Castles   [X]
118.) Haunted Woods   [X]
119.) Travelling Fair   [X]
120.) Delve   [X]
121.) Pathfinding   [X]
122.) Swamp Hag   [X]
123.) Worker's Village   [X]
124.) Margrave   [X]
125.) Duplicate   [X]
126.) Count   [X]
127.) Outpost   [X]
128.) Banquet   [X]
129.) Raze   [X]
130.) Trading Post   [X]
131.) Crown   [X]
132.) Borrow   [X]
133.) Throne Room   [X]
134.) Miser   [X]
135.) Lookout   [X]
136.) Vault   [X]
137.) Tactician   [X]
138.) Spice Merchant   [X]
139.) Hermit   [X]
140.) Ratcatcher   [X]
141.) Lost City   [X]
142.) Gear   [X]
143.) Develop   [X]
144.) Encampment   [X]
145.) Temple   [X]
146.) Lost Arts   [X]
147.) Villa   [X]
148.) Trade Route   [X]
149.) Rogue   [X]
150.) Legionary   [X]
151.) Soothsayer   [X]
152.) Dungeon   [X]
153.) Journeyman   [X]
154.) Bridge   [X]
155.) Loan   [X]
156.) Smithy   [X]
157.) Catacombs   [X]
158.) King's Court   [X]
159.) Rats   [X]
160.) Mint   [X]
161.) Herald   [X]
162.) Advisor   [X]
163.) Wishing Well   [X]
164.) Conquest   [X]
165.) Cutpurse   [X]
166.) Pilgrimage   [X]
167.) Procession   [X]
168.) Chancellor   [X]
169.) Peddler   [X]
170.) Seaway   [X]
171.) Expand   [X]
172.) Doctor   [X]
173.) Magpie   [X]
174.) Farming Village   [X]
175.) Nobles   [X]
176.) Plan   [X]
177.) Forum   [X]
178.) Council Room   [X]
179.) Plunder   [X]
180.) Talisman   [X]
181.) Ghost Ship   [X]
182.) Wedding   [X]
183.) Vagrant   [X]
184.) Pillage   [X]
185.) Scouting Party   [X]
186.) Ferry   [X]
187.) Oasis   [X]
188.) Hunting Party   [X]
189.) Mandarin   [X]
190.) Sacrifice   [X]
191.) Bishop   [X]
192.) Treasure Trove   [X]
193.) Stables   [X]
194.) Familiar   [X]
195.) Coppersmith   [X]
196.) Minion   [X]
197.) Shanty Town   [X]
198.) Saboteur   [X]
199.) Warehouse   [X]
200.) Death Cart   [X]
201.) Walled Village   [X]
202.) Caravan Guard   [X]
203.) Bank   [X]
204.) Ritual   [X]
205.) Thief   [X]
206.) Torturer   [X]
207.) Pawn   [X]
208.) Relic   [X]
209.) Trade   [X]
210.) Contraband   [X]
211.) City   [X]
212.) Transmogrify   [X]
213.) Mining Village   [X]
214.) Market Square   [X]
215.) Monument   [X]
216.) Catapult   [X]
217.) Rocks   [X]
218.) Scavenger   [X]
219.) Horse Traders   [X]
220.) Scheme   [X]
221.) Hireling   [X]
222.) Storeroom   [X]
223.) Great Hall   [X]
224.) Treasure Map   [X]
225.) Oracle   [X]
226.) Militia   [X]
227.) Tournament   [X]
228.) Governor   [X]
229.) Woodcutter   [X]
230.) Nomad Camp   [X]
231.) Baker   [X]
232.) Grand Market   [X]
233.) Beggar   [X]
234.) Baron   [X]
235.) Page   [X]
236.) Hoard   [X]
237.) Sea Hag   [X]
238.) Embassy   [X]
239.) Mountebank   [X]
240.) Taxman   [X]
241.) Smugglers   [X]
242.) Farmland   [X]
243.) Market   [X]
244.) Mine   [X]
245.) Silk Road   [X]
246.) Merchant Ship   [X]
247.) Counting House   [X]
248.) Quest   [X]
249.) Feodum   [X]
250.) Swindler   [X]
251.) Guide   [X]
252.) Caravan   [X]
253.) Haven   [X]
254.) Tribute   [X]
255.) Alchemist   [X]
256.) Mystic   [X]
257.) Cellar   [X]
258.) Duchess   [X]
259.) Noble Brigand   [X]
260.) Gardens   [X]
261.) Knights   [X]
262.) Courtyard   [X]
263.) Venture   [X]
264.) Cartographer   [X]
265.) Duke   [X]
266.) Harem   [X]
267.) Sage   [X]
268.) Inn   [X]
269.) Trader   [X]
270.) Explorer   [X]
271.) Island   [X]
272.) Scout   [X]
273.) Navigator   [X]
274.) Herbalist   [X]
275.) Transmute   [X]
276.) Pearl Diver   [X]
277.) Cache   [X]
278.) Royal Seal   [X]
279.) Secret Chamber   [X]
280.) Masterpiece   [X]
281.) Tunnel   [X]
282.) Raid   [X]
283.) Moat   [X]
284.) Philosopher's Stone   [X]
285.) Ill-Gotten Gains   [X]
286.) Adventurer   [X]
287.) Fool's Gold   [X]
288.) Scrying Pool   [X]
289.) Feast   [X]
290.) Bureaucrat   [X]
291.) Stash   [X]
292.) Treasury   [X]
293.) Possession   [X]
294.) Urchin   [X]
295.) Spy   [X]
296.) Lighthouse   [X]
297.) Rebuild   [X]
298.) Highway   [X]

299.) Cultist   [X]
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2016, 02:25:50 am »
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I was doing aet rankings, made nearly half, left ir for the night and when I woke up site was crashed
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2016, 10:02:40 am »
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I've done the whole list (best cards) in duell-mode. It took me about 3,5 hours. Just if someone wants to know ;-)
The results are not quit exact, but over all, the most is ok, so I'll let it be like this.

And after all of this "work", I want to share my results:

0-2$
Code: [Select]
1.) Chapel   [X]
2.) Delve   [X]
3.) Squire   [X]
4.) Courtyard   [X]
5.) Page   [X]
6.) Lighthouse   [X]
7.) Advance   [X]
8.) Fool's Gold   [X]
9.) Native Village   [X]
10.) Crossroads   [X]
11.) Candlestick Maker   [X]
12.) Peasant   [X]
13.) Haven   [X]
14.) Coin of the Realm   [X]
15.) Hamlet   [X]
16.) Poor House   [X]
17.) Encampment   [X]
18.) Stonemason   [X]
19.) Cellar   [X]
20.) Travelling Fair   [X]
21.) Pawn   [X]
22.) Settlers   [X]
23.) Moat   [X]
24.) Vagrant   [X]
25.) Beggar   [X]
26.) Ratcatcher   [X]
27.) Save   [X]
28.) Patrician   [X]
29.) Embargo   [X]
30.) Alms   [X]
31.) Raze   [X]
32.) Secret Chamber   [X]
33.) Herbalist   [X]
34.) Quest   [X]
35.) Pearl Diver   [X]
36.) Scouting Party   [X]
37.) Duchess   [X]
38.) Borrow   [X]
39.) Tax   [X]
I think, Delve should not be #2. And Candlestick Maker and Stonemason could be higher, but ok.

3$
Code: [Select]
1.) Catapult   [X]
2.) Fishing Village   [X]
3.) Expedition   [X]
4.) Forager   [X]
5.) Steward   [X]
6.) Swindler   [X]
7.) Enchantress   [X]
8.) Farmers' Market   [X]
9.) Masterpiece   [X]
10.) Ambassador   [X]
11.) Masquerade   [X]
12.) Urchin   [X]
13.) Watchtower   [X]
14.) Sage   [X]
15.) Menagerie   [X]
16.) Amulet   [X]
17.) Dungeon   [X]
18.) Shanty Town   [X]
19.) Ferry   [X]
20.) Village   [X]
21.) Black Market   [X]
22.) Warehouse   [X]
23.) Market Square   [X]
24.) Scheme   [X]
25.) Fortune Teller   [X]
26.) Hermit   [X]
27.) Smugglers   [X]
28.) Storeroom   [X]
29.) Gladiator   [X]
30.) Oasis   [X]
31.) Doctor   [X]
32.) Loan   [X]
33.) Wishing Well   [X]
34.) Trade Route   [X]
35.) Chariot Race   [X]
36.) Tunnel   [X]
37.) Caravan Guard   [X]
38.) Lookout   [X]
39.) Workshop   [X]
40.) Chancellor   [X]
41.) Gear   [X]
42.) Oracle   [X]
43.) Bonfire   [X]
44.) Guide   [X]
45.) Great Hall   [X]
46.) Plan   [X]
47.) Banquet   [X]
48.) Develop   [X]
49.) Woodcutter   [X]
No idea, why Catapult is first, but I think, it is not bad. Chariot Race should definitly be higher, maybe Plan could be higher too.

4$
Code: [Select]
1.) Sea Hag   [X]
2.) Conspirator   [X]
3.) Wandering Minstrel   [X]
4.) Ritual   [X]
5.) Herald   [X]
6.) Silk Road   [X]
7.) Sacrifice   [X]
8.) Jack of all Trades   [X]
9.) Tournament   [X]
10.) Walled Village   [X]
11.) Quarry   [X]
12.) Monument   [X]
13.) Plaza   [X]
14.) Baron   [X]
15.) Worker's Village   [X]
16.) Young Witch   [X]
17.) Remake   [X]
18.) Smithy   [X]
19.) Ranger   [X]
20.) Bridge   [X]
21.) Transmogrify   [X]
22.) Remodel   [X]
23.) Magpie   [X]
24.) Ironworks   [X]
25.) Ironmonger   [X]
26.) Militia   [X]
27.) Cutpurse   [X]
28.) Death Cart   [X]
29.) Duplicate   [X]
30.) Engineer   [X]
31.) Messenger   [X]
32.) Pilgrimage   [X]
33.) Throne Room   [X]
34.) Caravan   [X]
35.) Villa   [X]
36.) Spice Merchant   [X]
37.) Temple   [X]
38.) Bishop   [X]
39.) Procession   [X]
40.) Horse Traders   [X]
41.) Scavenger   [X]
42.) Mining Village   [X]
43.) Envoy   [X]
44.) Fortress   [X]
45.) Farming Village   [X]
46.) Advisor   [X]
47.) Salvager   [X]
48.) Moneylender   [X]
49.) Miser   [X]
50.) Armory   [X]
51.) Marauder   [X]
52.) Navigator   [X]
53.) Trader   [X]
54.) Rats   [X]
55.) Island   [X]
56.) Talisman   [X]
57.) Mission   [X]
58.) Gardens   [X]
59.) Taxman   [X]
60.) Feodum   [X]
61.) Port   [X]
62.) Bureaucrat   [X]
63.) Feast   [X]
64.) Salt the Earth   [X]
65.) Coppersmith   [X]
66.) Rocks   [X]
67.) Pirate Ship   [X]
68.) Treasure Map   [X]
69.) Nomad Camp   [X]
70.) Spy   [X]
71.) Scout   [X]
72.) Thief   [X]
73.) Noble Brigand   [X]
Seems ok for me. Villa could be higher, Messenger lower, but no big deal.

5$
Code: [Select]
1.) Governor   [X]
2.) Torturer   [X]
3.) Rebuild   [X]
4.) Storyteller   [X]
5.) Apprentice   [X]
6.) Minion   [X]
7.) Baker   [X]
8.) Lost City   [X]
9.) Count   [X]
10.) Swamp Hag   [X]
11.) Wharf   [X]
12.) Margrave   [X]
13.) Laboratory   [X]
14.) Knights   [X]
15.) Mountebank   [X]
16.) Tactician   [X]
17.) Soothsayer   [X]
18.) Royal Carriage   [X]
19.) Crown   [X]
20.) Wild Hunt   [X]
21.) Mystic   [X]
22.) Haunted Woods   [X]
23.) Charm   [X]
24.) Cultist   [X]
25.) Ill-Gotten Gains   [X]
26.) Witch   [X]
27.) City   [X]
28.) Giant   [X]
29.) Merchant Guild   [X]
30.) Bridge Troll   [X]
31.) Plunder   [X]
32.) Ghost Ship   [X]
33.) Festival   [X]
34.) Junk Dealer   [X]
35.) Counterfeit   [X]
36.) Upgrade   [X]
37.) Inn   [X]
38.) Vault   [X]
39.) Butcher   [X]
40.) Catacombs   [X]
41.) Relic   [X]
42.) Raid   [X]
43.) Trading Post   [X]
44.) Bandit Camp   [X]
45.) Bustling Village   [X]
46.) Highway   [X]
47.) Horn of Plenty   [X]
48.) Bazaar   [X]
49.) Mint   [X]
50.) Council Room   [X]
51.) Emporium   [X]
52.) Forum   [X]
53.) Duke   [X]
54.) Stables   [X]
55.) Artificer   [X]
56.) Haggler   [X]
57.) Wine Merchant   [X]
58.) Triumph   [X]
59.) Treasury   [X]
60.) Stash   [X]
61.) Jester   [X]
62.) Treasure Trove   [X]
63.) Hunting Party   [X]
64.) Embassy   [X]
65.) Merchant Ship   [X]
66.) Mandarin   [X]
67.) Cartographer   [X]
68.) Trade   [X]
69.) Archive   [X]
70.) Band of Misfits   [X]
71.) Distant Lands   [X]
72.) Royal Seal   [X]
73.) Capital   [X]
74.) Harvest   [X]
75.) Contraband   [X]
76.) Venture   [X]
77.) Market   [X]
78.) Library   [X]
79.) Summon   [X]
80.) Outpost   [X]
81.) Tribute   [X]
82.) Graverobber   [X]
83.) Journeyman   [X]
84.) Rabble   [X]
85.) Ball   [X]
86.) Rogue   [X]
87.) Legionary   [X]
88.) Cache   [X]
89.) Explorer   [X]
90.) Pillage   [X]
91.) Seaway   [X]
92.) Groundskeeper   [X]
93.) Counting House   [X]
94.) Mine   [X]
95.) Windfall   [X]
96.) Saboteur   [X]
So many good cards... Should be ok.

6$+
Code: [Select]
1.) Dominate   [X]
2.) Fortune   [X]
3.) Inheritance   [X]
4.) Royal Blacksmith   [X]
5.) Pathfinding   [X]
6.) City Quarter   [X]
7.) Donate   [X]
8.) King's Court   [X]
9.) Goons   [X]
10.) Hireling   [X]
11.) Bank   [X]
12.) Annex   [X]
13.) Grand Market   [X]
14.) Conquest   [X]
15.) Prince   [X]
16.) Overlord   [X]
17.) Lost Arts   [X]
18.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
19.) Altar   [X]
20.) Hoard   [X]
21.) Training   [X]
22.) Expand   [X]
23.) Forge   [X]
24.) Border Village   [X]
25.) Nobles   [X]
26.) Fairgrounds   [X]
27.) Harem   [X]
28.) Adventurer   [X]
29.) Peddler   [X]
30.) Wedding   [X]
31.) Farmland   [X]
32.) Castles   [X]
Seems fine to me.

Potion
Code: [Select]
1.) Golem   [X]
2.) Possession   [X]
3.) Alchemist   [X]
4.) Familiar   [X]
5.) Scrying Pool   [X]
6.) Apothecary   [X]
7.) University   [X]
8.) Philosopher's Stone   [X]
9.) Vineyard   [X]
10.) Transmute   [X]
Fine too.

Ruins
Code: [Select]
1.) Survivors   [X]
2.) Ruined Library   [X]
3.) Abandoned Mine   [X]
4.) Ruined Market   [X]
5.) Ruined Village   [X]
Not sure with these. This is so much depending on the board, especially Ruined Market.

Prices
Code: [Select]
1.) Followers   [X]
2.) Trusty Steed   [X]
3.) Princess   [X]
4.) Bag of Gold   [X]
5.) Diadem   [X]
Perfect (for me), but not so difficult with just 5 cards ;-)

Knights
Code: [Select]
1.) Sir Michael   [X]
2.) Dame Anna   [X]
3.) Dame Molly   [X]
4.) Sir Bailey   [X]
5.) Sir Destry   [X]
6.) Dame Sylvia   [X]
7.) Dame Josephine   [X]
8.) Dame Natalie   [X]
9.) Sir Vander   [X]
10.) Sir Martin   [X]
Perfect too.

Events
Code: [Select]
1.) Dominate   [X]
2.) Inheritance   [X]
3.) Pathfinding   [X]
4.) Donate   [X]
5.) Annex   [X]
6.) Conquest   [X]
7.) Lost Arts   [X]
8.) Training   [X]
9.) Raid   [X]
10.) Triumph   [X]
11.) Ritual   [X]
12.) Trade   [X]
13.) Expedition   [X]
14.) Summon   [X]
15.) Pilgrimage   [X]
16.) Wedding   [X]
17.) Ball   [X]
18.) Ferry   [X]
19.) Seaway   [X]
20.) Delve   [X]
21.) Mission   [X]
22.) Advance   [X]
23.) Salt the Earth   [X]
24.) Windfall   [X]
25.) Bonfire   [X]
26.) Travelling Fair   [X]
27.) Plan   [X]
28.) Banquet   [X]
29.) Save   [X]
30.) Alms   [X]
31.) Quest   [X]
32.) Scouting Party   [X]
33.) Borrow   [X]
34.) Tax   [X]
Did not play with them much, but seems fine.

Landmarks
Code: [Select]
1.) Wall   [X]
2.) Wolf Den   [X]
3.) Museum   [X]
4.) Bandit Fort   [X]
5.) Keep   [X]
6.) Arena   [X]
7.) Basilica   [X]
8.) Obelisk   [X]
9.) Palace   [X]
10.) Triumphal Arch   [X]
11.) Orchard   [X]
12.) Mountain Pass   [X]
13.) Tower   [X]
14.) Defiled Shrine   [X]
15.) Aqueduct   [X]
16.) Colonnade   [X]
17.) Baths   [X]
18.) Battlefield   [X]
19.) Tomb   [X]
20.) Fountain   [X]
21.) Labyrinth   [X]
Yeah. There is no real strength of those. I ranked them in order how much they change and how diffucult they are to play.

All
Code: [Select]
1.) Dominate   [X]
2.) Fortune   [X]
3.) Inheritance   [X]
4.) Catapult   [X]
5.) Royal Blacksmith   [X]
6.) Pathfinding   [X]
7.) City Quarter   [X]
8.) Donate   [X]
9.) King's Court   [X]
10.) Governor   [X]
11.) Goons   [X]
12.) Hireling   [X]
13.) Golem   [X]
14.) Bank   [X]
15.) Annex   [X]
16.) Grand Market   [X]
17.) Torturer   [X]
18.) Conquest   [X]
19.) Prince   [X]
20.) Overlord   [X]
21.) Rebuild   [X]
22.) Lost Arts   [X]
23.) Hunting Grounds   [X]
24.) Altar   [X]
25.) Storyteller   [X]
26.) Possession   [X]
27.) Apprentice   [X]
28.) Hoard   [X]
29.) Minion   [X]
30.) Baker   [X]
31.) Lost City   [X]
32.) Training   [X]
33.) Count   [X]
34.) Expand   [X]
35.) Swamp Hag   [X]
36.) Wharf   [X]
37.) Forge   [X]
38.) Margrave   [X]
39.) Laboratory   [X]
40.) Border Village   [X]
41.) Knights   [X]
42.) Mountebank   [X]
43.) Tactician   [X]
44.) Soothsayer   [X]
45.) Royal Carriage   [X]
46.) Crown   [X]
47.) Wild Hunt   [X]
48.) Mystic   [X]
49.) Haunted Woods   [X]
50.) Charm   [X]
51.) Alchemist   [X]
52.) Nobles   [X]
53.) Cultist   [X]
54.) Ill-Gotten Gains   [X]
55.) Witch   [X]
56.) City   [X]
57.) Giant   [X]
58.) Merchant Guild   [X]
59.) Bridge Troll   [X]
60.) Plunder   [X]
61.) Familiar   [X]
62.) Ghost Ship   [X]
63.) Festival   [X]
64.) Junk Dealer   [X]
65.) Counterfeit   [X]
66.) Upgrade   [X]
67.) Inn   [X]
68.) Vault   [X]
69.) Butcher   [X]
70.) Catacombs   [X]
71.) Relic   [X]
72.) Raid   [X]
73.) Trading Post   [X]
74.) Bandit Camp   [X]
75.) Bustling Village   [X]
76.) Highway   [X]
77.) Scrying Pool   [X]
78.) Horn of Plenty   [X]
79.) Bazaar   [X]
80.) Mint   [X]
81.) Fairgrounds   [X]
82.) Council Room   [X]
83.) Emporium   [X]
84.) Forum   [X]
85.) Duke   [X]
86.) Stables   [X]
87.) Artificer   [X]
88.) Sea Hag   [X]
89.) Haggler   [X]
90.) Wine Merchant   [X]
91.) Triumph   [X]
92.) Harem   [X]
93.) Conspirator   [X]
94.) Treasury   [X]
95.) Wandering Minstrel   [X]
96.) Stash   [X]
97.) Ritual   [X]
98.) Herald   [X]
99.) Jester   [X]
100.) Treasure Trove   [X]
101.) Hunting Party   [X]
102.) Embassy   [X]
103.) Merchant Ship   [X]
104.) Mandarin   [X]
105.) Silk Road   [X]
106.) Sacrifice   [X]
107.) Cartographer   [X]
108.) Trade   [X]
109.) Archive   [X]
110.) Jack of all Trades   [X]
111.) Band of Misfits   [X]
112.) Distant Lands   [X]
113.) Royal Seal   [X]
114.) Tournament   [X]
115.) Fishing Village   [X]
116.) Walled Village   [X]
117.) Capital   [X]
118.) Adventurer   [X]
119.) Quarry   [X]
120.) Monument   [X]
121.) Apothecary   [X]
122.) Plaza   [X]
123.) Baron   [X]
124.) Worker's Village   [X]
125.) Harvest   [X]
126.) Young Witch   [X]
127.) Remake   [X]
128.) Smithy   [X]
129.) Contraband   [X]
130.) Expedition   [X]
131.) Venture   [X]
132.) Market   [X]
133.) Ranger   [X]
134.) Library   [X]
135.) Bridge   [X]
136.) University   [X]
137.) Transmogrify   [X]
138.) Remodel   [X]
139.) Forager   [X]
140.) Magpie   [X]
141.) Ironworks   [X]
142.) Summon   [X]
143.) Ironmonger   [X]
144.) Outpost   [X]
145.) Steward   [X]
146.) Tribute   [X]
147.) Chapel   [X]
148.) Militia   [X]
149.) Cutpurse   [X]
150.) Peddler   [X]
151.) Graverobber   [X]
152.) Death Cart   [X]
153.) Swindler   [X]
154.) Duplicate   [X]
155.) Enchantress   [X]
156.) Engineer   [X]
157.) Farmers' Market   [X]
158.) Masterpiece   [X]
159.) Messenger   [X]
160.) Pilgrimage   [X]
161.) Wedding   [X]
162.) Journeyman   [X]
163.) Rabble   [X]
164.) Farmland   [X]
165.) Throne Room   [X]
166.) Ball   [X]
167.) Caravan   [X]
168.) Rogue   [X]
169.) Villa   [X]
170.) Legionary   [X]
171.) Spice Merchant   [X]
172.) Temple   [X]
173.) Ambassador   [X]
174.) Bishop   [X]
175.) Procession   [X]
176.) Horse Traders   [X]
177.) Cache   [X]
178.) Scavenger   [X]
179.) Mining Village   [X]
180.) Masquerade   [X]
181.) Envoy   [X]
182.) Urchin   [X]
183.) Fortress   [X]
184.) Watchtower   [X]
185.) Sage   [X]
186.) Philosopher's Stone   [X]
187.) Explorer   [X]
188.) Farming Village   [X]
189.) Advisor   [X]
190.) Pillage   [X]
191.) Salvager   [X]
192.) Moneylender   [X]
193.) Miser   [X]
194.) Armory   [X]
195.) Menagerie   [X]
196.) Marauder   [X]
197.) Navigator   [X]
198.) Amulet   [X]
199.) Dungeon   [X]
200.) Trader   [X]
201.) Shanty Town   [X]
202.) Ferry   [X]
203.) Seaway   [X]
204.) Delve   [X]
205.) Groundskeeper   [X]
206.) Rats   [X]
207.) Island   [X]
208.) Village   [X]
209.) Talisman   [X]
210.) Black Market   [X]
211.) Squire   [X]
212.) Mission   [X]
213.) Gardens   [X]
214.) Taxman   [X]
215.) Courtyard   [X]
216.) Page   [X]
217.) Warehouse   [X]
218.) Market Square   [X]
219.) Vineyard   [X]
220.) Feodum   [X]
221.) Scheme   [X]
222.) Lighthouse   [X]
223.) Port   [X]
224.) Fortune Teller   [X]
225.) Advance   [X]
226.) Hermit   [X]
227.) Smugglers   [X]
228.) Storeroom   [X]
229.) Bureaucrat   [X]
230.) Feast   [X]
231.) Fool's Gold   [X]
232.) Counting House   [X]
233.) Gladiator   [X]
234.) Native Village   [X]
235.) Oasis   [X]
236.) Doctor   [X]
237.) Salt the Earth   [X]
238.) Castles   [X]
239.) Coppersmith   [X]
240.) Loan   [X]
241.) Mine   [X]
242.) Crossroads   [X]
243.) Rocks   [X]
244.) Pirate Ship   [X]
245.) Windfall   [X]
246.) Saboteur   [X]
247.) Wishing Well   [X]
248.) Candlestick Maker   [X]
249.) Peasant   [X]
250.) Trade Route   [X]
251.) Treasure Map   [X]
252.) Haven   [X]
253.) Coin of the Realm   [X]
254.) Chariot Race   [X]
255.) Tunnel   [X]
256.) Hamlet   [X]
257.) Caravan Guard   [X]
258.) Lookout   [X]
259.) Workshop   [X]
260.) Chancellor   [X]
261.) Poor House   [X]
262.) Encampment   [X]
263.) Nomad Camp   [X]
264.) Gear   [X]
265.) Stonemason   [X]
266.) Oracle   [X]
267.) Cellar   [X]
268.) Bonfire   [X]
269.) Guide   [X]
270.) Great Hall   [X]
271.) Travelling Fair   [X]
272.) Plan   [X]
273.) Spy   [X]
274.) Pawn   [X]
275.) Settlers   [X]
276.) Moat   [X]
277.) Vagrant   [X]
278.) Beggar   [X]
279.) Banquet   [X]
280.) Scout   [X]
281.) Ratcatcher   [X]
282.) Save   [X]
283.) Patrician   [X]
284.) Thief   [X]
285.) Embargo   [X]
286.) Noble Brigand   [X]
287.) Develop   [X]
288.) Alms   [X]
289.) Woodcutter   [X]
290.) Raze   [X]
291.) Secret Chamber   [X]
292.) Herbalist   [X]
293.) Quest   [X]
294.) Pearl Diver   [X]
295.) Scouting Party   [X]
296.) Duchess   [X]
297.) Transmute   [X]
298.) Borrow   [X]
299.) Tax   [X]
Again, no idea, how Catapult is that high...
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2016, 10:04:02 am »
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Code: [Select]
$3

1.) Fishing Village   [X]
2.) Ambassador   [X]
3.) Gear   [X]
4.) Urchin   [X]
5.) Amulet   [X]
6.) Steward   [X]
7.) Ferry   [X]
8.) Masquerade   [X]
9.) Hermit   [X]
10.) Swindler   [X]
11.) Watchtower   [X]
12.) Village   [X]
13.) Forager   [X]
14.) Menagerie   [X]
15.) Market Square   [X]
16.) Dungeon   [X]
17.) Warehouse   [X]
18.) Scheme   [X]
19.) Lookout   [X]
20.) Bonfire   [X]
21.) Plan   [X]
22.) Black Market   [X]
23.) Wishing Well   [X]
24.) Oasis   [X]
25.) Workshop   [X]
26.) Oracle   [X]
27.) Shanty Town   [X]
28.) Tunnel   [X]
29.) Doctor   [X]
30.) Expedition   [X]
31.) Smugglers   [X]
32.) Masterpiece   [X]
33.) Storeroom   [X]
34.) Sage   [X]
35.) Guide   [X]
36.) Develop   [X]
37.) Woodcutter   [X]
38.) Trade Route   [X]
39.) Caravan Guard   [X]
40.) Great Hall   [X]
41.) Fortune Teller   [X]
42.) Loan   [X]
43.) Chancellor   [X]

$4

1.) Herald   [X]
2.) Remake   [X]
3.) Wandering Minstrel   [X]
4.) Jack of all Trades   [X]
5.) Tournament   [X]
6.) Bridge   [X]
7.) Throne Room   [X]
8.) Conspirator   [X]
9.) Port   [X]
10.) Ironmonger   [X]
11.) Militia   [X]
12.) Sea Hag   [X]
13.) Monument   [X]
14.) Spice Merchant   [X]
15.) Ironworks   [X]
16.) Quarry   [X]
17.) Magpie   [X]
18.) Worker's Village   [X]
19.) Smithy   [X]
20.) Caravan   [X]
21.) Envoy   [X]
22.) Young Witch   [X]
23.) Salvager   [X]
24.) Mining Village   [X]
25.) Plaza   [X]
26.) Remodel   [X]
27.) Gardens   [X]
28.) Fortress   [X]
29.) Armory   [X]
30.) Trader   [X]
31.) Farming Village   [X]
32.) Walled Village   [X]
33.) Bishop   [X]
34.) Moneylender   [X]
35.) Marauder   [X]
36.) Island   [X]
37.) Duplicate   [X]
38.) Scavenger   [X]
39.) Feodum   [X]
40.) Messenger   [X]
41.) Ranger   [X]
42.) Horse Traders   [X]
43.) Baron   [X]
44.) Silk Road   [X]
45.) Coppersmith   [X]
46.) Procession   [X]
47.) Miser   [X]
48.) Bureaucrat   [X]
49.) Pilgrimage   [X]
50.) Advisor   [X]
51.) Mission   [X]
52.) Cutpurse   [X]
53.) Nomad Camp   [X]
54.) Death Cart   [X]
55.) Treasure Map   [X]
56.) Noble Brigand   [X]
57.) Talisman   [X]
58.) Pirate Ship   [X]
59.) Transmogrify   [X]
60.) Navigator   [X]
61.) Spy   [X]
62.) Taxman   [X]
63.) Feast   [X]
64.) Rats   [X]
65.) Scout   [X]
66.) Thief   [X]

Finished the $3 and $4 lists. Notable placements:

$3
1. Fishing Village: The easiest way ever to never have a shortage of extra Actions again, plus it gives as much money as a Silver, only a bit more spread out over turns. Remember when the Silver test was a thing? Silver never passes the Fishing Village test, even in BM. Villages are underrated in general, they are often so crucial for engines, and Fishing Village is easily the strongest one out there, unless you count King's Court maybe. It's a close call, Ambassador is also still as powerful as always, but Fishing Village takes the cake imo.
3. Gear: I think we all learned how strong Gear really is in the past year, even outside TripleGear-BM. It only took 14th place last year, let's get it up where it belongs.
8. Masquerade: I think it's a bit overrated. Draw and trashing in a single card is pretty nice, but it only trashes a single card at a time, which is why I prefer Amulet and Steward to it. It's also a bit awkward later in the game because you can't reliably use it as draw anymore; you don't want to give your opponent good cards, so you're forced to keep Coppers around even if your opponent skips Masquerade.
25. Workshop: It emerged from the depths of the rankings a little bit last year, but it needs to rise even further. Gainers are so important, it's basically +$4 +1 Buy, except you can't use the extra money for an extra expensive card, but in many cases that's perfectly fine.
35. Guide: It's not actually that good. Sure, sometimes you want to skip a hand, but is the opportunity cost of getting a Guide in the first place really worth it? Usually it isn't, unless you happen to have an extra buy/gain around anyway. I'd rather have a trasher or a sifter or Scheme so I don't need Guide in the first place.
42. Loan: It actually gained two places last year, I'm not sure why. Loan sucks. You use it to get rid of Copper, but it's actually a Copper on play itself, so you need to play it twice before your deck is any better than it used to be without it, ASSUMING you don't skip your better Treasures instead. Which is not a good assumption as it happens all the time. Any other trasher is better, even Trade Route. You have to be really desperate before Loan is worth it.

$4
1. Herald: If you ask me, there's no clear-cut all-powerful $4 card. It's probably the most moderate batch of cards, smack in the middle of everything. Might as well go with my personal favorite for #1 then. It's a very good card, maybe not much stronger than the other cards in the top 10, but still. If your deck is anything resembling action dense (i.e. if there's any trashing at all), you might just have yourself a very cheap Lost City.
8. Conspirator: I was surprised it's only #22 in last year's ranking. $2 on a cantrip is a ton of money, even if it's conditional. You have to be a bit careful that you don't overdo it, because drawing a hand of five Conspirators is sad, but otherwise it becomes very powerful very quickly.
10. Ironmonger: Just a bit overrated. It helps you hit $5 early-game, which is cool, but later on it's often just a Village, and sometimes it's not when you really want it to be. It's a good card, but a bit too unreliable for a place in the top 5.
17. Magpie: Yup, I admit it. We all overrated it, I jumped on the bandwagon too. Let's get this thing out of the top 10 this time.
33. Bishop: The sad thing is that you can't open with it without helping your opponent way too much. That means it's only good as payload later in the game. It's still a good card in some engines, but not as spammable as people used to think.
35. Marauder: Seriously? Place 14 for a poor man's Soothsayer last year? It's terminal, it doesn't draw, it slowly gives bad cards to your opponent that aren't nearly as bad as Curses... it's really average. I mean, it can be a good addition to an engine, but it's not that important to go for quickly.
45. Coppersmith: Again, I may be biased due to nostalgia here. I'll freely admit that. Couldn't bear to put it any lower than this though.
64. Rats: Nope. I'm not convinced. It's still bottom of the barrel. Those cute tricks with TFB rarely work, it's a big hassle to upgrade your junk into higher-cost junk, and then half the time it doesn't even collide with your TFB card... and it ends up eating your deck without giving sufficient benefits. Next year, it's definitely going to be dead last, when Thief and Scout are officially gone.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2016, 10:25:40 am »
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I've done the whole list (best cards) in duell-mode. It took me about 3,5 hours. Just if someone wants to know ;-)
The results are not quit exact, but over all, the most is ok, so I'll let it be like this.

And after all of this "work", I want to share my results:
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You know, it's possible to duel mode the cards first, and then switch to order mode to change what you're unhappy about. That way, you can shove Catapult down a couple hundred places, and maybe do some other adjustments as well. (Golem at 13 and Prince at 19, but Cultist at 53 and Scrying Pool at 77 overall..?)
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2016, 10:31:52 am »
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280.) Scout
281.) Ratcatcher 
282.) Save   
283.) Patrician 
284.) Thief
285.) Embargo
286.) Noble Brigand   
287.) Develop   
288.) Alms   
289.) Woodcutter
290.) Raze   
291.) Secret Chamber   
292.) Herbalist   
293.) Quest 
294.) Pearl Diver   
295.) Scouting Party   
296.) Duchess   
297.) Transmute   
298.) Borrow   
299.) Tax
that's pretty high...could be higher, but we'll get there
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2016, 10:34:08 am »
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280.) Scout
281.) Ratcatcher 
282.) Save   
283.) Patrician 
284.) Thief
285.) Embargo
286.) Noble Brigand   
287.) Develop   
288.) Alms   
289.) Woodcutter
290.) Raze   
291.) Secret Chamber   
292.) Herbalist   
293.) Quest 
294.) Pearl Diver   
295.) Scouting Party   
296.) Duchess   
297.) Transmute   
298.) Borrow   
299.) Tax
that's pretty high...could be higher, but we'll get there

I mean, now we never will.  :)
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