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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #175 on: June 02, 2017, 02:16:14 am »
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Is there a site where we can basically do Qvist's rankings but without Dominion cards? I have a bunch of things I want to order and I think that would be by far the easiest way to.

I tried googling "Qvist's lists for non-dominion" but didn't find anything useful.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #176 on: June 02, 2017, 02:39:15 am »
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Is there a site where we can basically do Qvist's rankings but without Dominion cards? I have a bunch of things I want to order and I think that would be by far the easiest way to.

I have done Qvist's rankings without Dominion cards. This was the result:











Maybe I can write a tool to enable this.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #177 on: July 11, 2017, 10:48:16 am »
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Is there a site where we can basically do Qvist's rankings but without Dominion cards? I have a bunch of things I want to order and I think that would be by far the easiest way to.

I've looked for a more generic ranking tool like Qvist's multiple times before and I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. I also asked Qvist personally who had no idea of any such thing.

'ranking tool' yields results related to website rankings in search engines. 'list ordering tool' yields stuff like alphabetizers and randomizers. The closest I got was with 'favorites ordering tool', which yielded something very similar for Pokemon: http://fio4ri.github.io/FavoritePokemon/ . But still, nothing generic.

If you ever do happen to find something like this, please let me know, it would honestly be a dream come true. Not even slightly exaggerating.

The problem now is different. Normally I think about Dominion like all the time, I'm obsessed with it. That's why I make those lists. I was working on a different project the last half year though (it started being for fun, but got big and evolved) and still I managed to release the lists, slower sure, but I did it because I wanted to.

But lately I somehow don't think about Dominion, don't want to play and so on. Usually when I'm in that kind of mood, it goes away very quickly. But this time it stays. I still force myself to play the league because when I'm playing I'm pretty sure I get in the mood again to continue.

I've actually had the same thing happen to me, after being completely obsessed with Dominion for two years I kinda lost interest. At first I thought it was because of the new client or because of some losing streak, but it wasn't. I guess those things just happen. But hey, it's still a cool game and I still play it IRL every once in a while.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #178 on: August 25, 2017, 04:32:19 pm »
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Hey, Qvist.  If it isn't too much trouble, could you update the OP with links to the other card list threads?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #179 on: August 28, 2017, 01:35:00 pm »
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Done
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #180 on: August 28, 2017, 01:54:16 pm »
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How do we go about doing this in 2017? I assume Qvist will no longer be available. I could imagine working on it, but I'd probably need some support, especially when it comes to building a similar website.

Also there's a question of whether to do it pre or post Nocture release.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #181 on: August 28, 2017, 02:16:33 pm »
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I can organize it, no real work required, but I won't do nice presentations or write ups
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #182 on: August 28, 2017, 02:27:04 pm »
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I can organize it, no real work required, but I won't do nice presentations or write ups

I think there is enough people who can do that :)
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #183 on: August 28, 2017, 02:46:14 pm »
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I just need one person, whom I can send some files to, and (s)he can do the posts.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #184 on: August 28, 2017, 02:48:45 pm »
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I just need one person, whom I can send some files to, and (s)he can do the posts.

Depends on my free time, but i'm definitely willing to
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #185 on: August 28, 2017, 02:53:19 pm »
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Also there's a question of whether to do it pre or post Nocture release.

Obviously post-release, and include Nocturne cards in the rankings. I mean it's easy enough to remove those cards for "clean" rankings, and then we can later have the joy of seeing how wrong we all were.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #186 on: August 28, 2017, 03:05:58 pm »
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Also there's a question of whether to do it pre or post Nocture release.

Obviously post-release, and include Nocturne cards in the rankings. I mean it's easy enough to remove those cards for "clean" rankings, and then we can later have the joy of seeing how wrong we all were.
Last year, 2nd edition cards were also released around October, and even though that was before the rankings, they were not included in the rankings.  But ignoring precedent, I agree with including Nocturne.

One change I would ask for this year is to have only the individual category rankings, and remove the fully combined rankings.  Fully ranking the cards took a lot more time, and then we never saw the results for it anyway.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #187 on: August 28, 2017, 03:36:17 pm »
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Last year 2nd edition cards weren't included because 1.) you couldn't play with them online and 2.) they got announced very short time before the rankings/ratings.
So I agree to include Nocturne.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #188 on: August 28, 2017, 03:41:16 pm »
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I guess I should clarify that I'm assuming Nocturne will actually be released in October. I mean it's common for games to get delayed, though I have no info on whether Nocturne specifically will be. If it somehow doesn't come out until late December or 2018, then do the rankings without it. I'm not sure what the exact cutoff date should be.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #189 on: August 29, 2017, 04:14:33 pm »
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I'd say give us at least a month to play with Nocturne before doing a ranking.  So if it releases as planned in October, put up the polls for the rankings sometime in November.

I would also suggest not including removed cards.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #190 on: August 29, 2017, 04:22:35 pm »
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I would also suggest not including removed cards.
I second this, mainly because there are sooooo many cards to deal with now, taking 12 old cards out of the rankings would be a huge timesaver.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2016 Edition
« Reply #191 on: August 29, 2017, 04:30:51 pm »
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Agreed
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