Dominion Strategy Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy  (Read 2823 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

DG

  • Governor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4074
  • Respect: +2624
    • View Profile
Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« on: November 02, 2011, 10:05:59 am »
0

I can't think of an original puzzle so let's revisit an old one. You've been blessed with perfect draws and want to get all the provinces as fast as you can in a solo game. Perfect draws means that you can effectively order the cards as you like after any reshuffle. However you are not allowed to work with a full kingdom, you can just use basic cards and cards from just 3 chosen kingdom card piles. It doesn't matter if you buy, gain, or otherwise acquire cards, the 3 pile limit (plus basic supply piles) is in force. How many turns will it take you to end the game with all eight provinces in your deck?

Usual solo game puzzle restrictions apply - no cards received through masquerade, no possession, no tribute result, no jester result, no cards in black market supply, etc. No colonies. No platinum. Any solution that makes assumptions about the other supply piles, such as upgrading a gold and receiving nothing, is invalid. Trashing a province will prevent you from solving the puzzle. I will allow outpost and the extra turn is genuinely extra. Just use some common sense for the other exceptions.

Fun example -

Turn 1 play 3 coppers, buy chancellor
Turn 2 play 4 coppers, buy worker's village
Turn 3 play a worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), play 3 copper - buy counting house, copper
Turn 4 play a worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), counting house, play 8 coppers - buy 2 worker's
Turn 5 play 3 worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), counting house, play 8 coppers - buy 2 worker's, 2 copper
Turn 6 play 5 worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), counting house, play 10 coppers - buy province, worker, 4 copper
Turn 7 play 6 worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), counting house, play 14 coppers - buy 2 province, 5 copper
Turn 8 play 6 worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), counting house, play 19 coppers - buy 2 province, 5 copper
Turn 9 play 6 worker's village, chancellor (discard deck), counting house, play 24 coppers - buy 3 provinces
Logged

Jack Rudd

  • Saboteur
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1325
  • Shuffle iT Username: Jack Rudd
  • Respect: +1384
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 02:46:22 pm »
0

Hmmmm. How quickly can KC-KC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge be set up?
Logged
Centuries later, archaeologists discover the remains of your ancient civilization.

Evidence of thriving towns, Pottery, roads, and a centralized government amaze the startled scientists.

Finally, they come upon a stone tablet, which contains but one mysterious phrase!

'ISOTROPIC WILL RETURN!'

jonts26

  • Margrave
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2746
  • Shuffle iT Username: jonts
  • Respect: +3671
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 03:08:45 pm »
0

I've gotten 7 turns about 5 different ways. Here's my favorite:

Opening: Bridge/Silver
Turn 3: Draw Bridge, Silver, Copperx3 - Buy King's Court
Turn 4: Draw Copperx4, Estate - Buy Bridge
Turn 5: Draw Estate, Copperx2, Bridge, KC - Buy KC, Bridgex2
Turn 6: Draw Copperx5 - Buy Inn (shuffle KCx2,Bridgex3 into draw)
Turn 7: Draw KCx2, Bridgex3 - Buy Provincex8
Logged

ackack

  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 302
  • Respect: +19
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 05:59:43 pm »
0


Turn 5: Draw Estate, Copperx2, Bridge, KC - Buy KC, Bridgex2

Doesn't this require $6 - $4 for KC, $1 for each Bridge - and not the $5 that 2 Coppers and 3 Bridge plays gets you?
Logged

jonts26

  • Margrave
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2746
  • Shuffle iT Username: jonts
  • Respect: +3671
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 06:50:34 pm »
0

One of those coppers should be a silver. Whoops.

Edit: Actually, there's an estate unaccounted for, as well. Back to the drawing board.

Edit 2: OK, here's a slightly different, yet actually viable, solution.

Opening: Bridge/Chancellor
Turn 3: Draw Bridge, Copperx4 - Buy Bridge, Silver
Turn 4: Draw Chancellor, Copperx3, Estate - Buy Bridge - Reshuffle
Turn 5: Draw Chancellor, Silver, Copperx3 - Buy KC - Reshuffle
Turn 6: Draw Chancellor, Silver, Copperx3 - Buy KC - Reshuffle
Turn 7: Draw KCx2, Bridgex3 - Buy Provincex8
« Last Edit: November 02, 2011, 07:00:47 pm by jonts26 »
Logged

Qvist

  • Mountebank
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2400
  • Shuffle iT Username: Qvist
  • Respect: +4085
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 07:48:39 pm »
0


Turn 5: Draw Estate, Copperx2, Bridge, KC - Buy KC, Bridgex2



After turn 4 there are 2 Estates left to draw, so your hand doesn't seem possible. Or am I doing anything wrong?


8 Turns is no problem:

Turn 1: Buy Bridge
Turn 2: Buy Fishing Village
Turn 3: Fishing Village, 3 Copper, Estate => Buy Bridge
Turn 4: Bridge, 4 Copper => Buy King's Court
Turn 5: 2 Estates, King's Court, Bridge, Fishing Village => Buy 4 Bridges
Turn 6: Bridge, 4 Copper => Buy King's Court
Turn 7: 3 Copper, 2 Estates
Turn 8: 2 King's Courts, 3 Bridges => Buy 8 Provinces


7 Turns is challenging:

Turn 1: Buy Bridge
Turn 2: Buy Shanty Town
Turn 3: Shanty Town, 4 Copper => Draw Bridge, 1 Copper => Buy King's Court
Turn 4: 2 Copper, 3 Estates
Turn 5: Shanty Town, 3 Copper, Estate => Draw Bridge, King's Court => Buy King's Court, 2 Bridges, Silver
Turn 6: 2 Estates, 3 Copper => Buy Silver
But 1 Copper is left so I can't do 2 King's Courts, 3 Bridges
Best I can do:
Turn 7: 2x King's Court, Shanty Town, 2 Copper => Draw 2 Copper, 2 Silver, 2 Bridges => Buy 7 Provinces


Edit: Additional Silver for 7 Provinces

Edit2: jonts26 got it first, but here is an alternative


Turn 1: Buy Bridge
Turn 2: Buy Silver
Turn 3: Silver, Bridge, 3 Copper => Buy King's Court
Turn 4: 3 Copper, 2 Estates => Buy Chancellor
Turn 5: Copper, Estate, King's Court, Bridge, Silver => Buy King's Court, 2 Bridges
Turn 6: Chancellor, ... => reshuffle
Turn 7: 2 King's Courts, 3 Bridges => Buy 8 Provinces
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 04:46:11 am by Qvist »
Logged

DG

  • Governor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4074
  • Respect: +2624
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 01:19:10 pm »
0

Who can find 6 turns then?
Logged

Titandrake

  • Mountebank
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2210
  • Respect: +2856
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 02:33:37 am »
0

Yet another 7 turn solution.

Turn 1: Buy Bridge.
Turn 2: Buy Silver.
Turn 3: Bridge, Silver, 3 Copper -> buy KC
Turn 4: 4 Copper, Estate -> buy Crossroads -> Reshuffle
Turn 5: 2 Estates, Estate, Crossroads, Silver
Draw KC, Bridge, Copper -> buy KC, Bridge, Bridge, Crossroads (cards left to draw: 6)
Turn 6: 5 Copper -> Duchy -> Reshuffle
Turn 7: Copper, 3 Estates, Crossroads
Draw KC, Crossroads, Duchy.
Don't use KC, draw KC, Bridge, Bridge, Bridge.
KC-KC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge -> Provinces
Logged
I have a blog! It's called Sorta Insightful. Check it out?

DG

  • Governor
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4074
  • Respect: +2624
    • View Profile
Re: Another pointless puzzle to keep people busy
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 06:14:03 pm »
0

This puzzle is still open btw. There are a number of 8 turn solutions using a wide variety of methods. Some good seven turn solutions that have been posted so far. There is a fairly straightforward 6 turn solution.
Logged
Pages: [1]
 

Page created in 1.604 seconds with 20 queries.