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[sudgy]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

[kn1tt3r]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

[sudgy]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

[ragingduckd]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

[sudgy]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

?

[Jimmmmm]

If it doesn't have to be Vanillage (can we make that term stick?)

[sudgy]

If it doesn't have to be Vanillage (can we make that term stick?)

Holy crap.  I didn't even see that.

[SCSN]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

[Asper]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

[Jimmmmm]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

Oh! I thought he was talking about the most Vanilla Village of them all, Ruined Village.

[Awaclus]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

But not a very strong flavor.

[markusin]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

Oh! I thought he was talking about the most Vanilla Village of them all, Ruined Village.

Don't be silly. How is that more vanilla than the village whose shattered remains we see on Ruined village. The one we call "Walled".

Of course, Sudgy isn't talking about that one. He's talking about the first village of them all. The one that came before all the others. The Native village.

[Gveoniz]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

Oh! I thought he was talking about the most Vanilla Village of them all, Ruined Village.

Don't be silly. How is that more vanilla than the village whose shattered remains we see on Ruined village. The one we call "Walled".

Of course, Sudgy isn't talking about that one. He's talking about the first village of them all. The one that came before all the others. The Native village.

I thought he is talking about the farming village, the one that grow all those vanilla.

[Kirian]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

But not a very strong flavor.

You need to get better vanilla.

[AHoppy]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

ah but in the world of ice cream and yogurt, vanilla provides the foundation or "base" as some might say for creating more flavors. So when you want to make fish flavored ice cream, you add fish to vanilla ice cream, just like adding fish to village turns it orange, gives it coins and takes away its cards...

[SirPeebles]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

ah but in the world of ice cream and yogurt, vanilla provides the foundation or "base" as some might say for creating more flavors. So when you want to make fish flavored ice cream, you add fish to vanilla ice cream, just like adding fish to village turns it orange, gives it coins and takes away its cards...

Does fish ice cream really use vanilla ice cream as its base?  I'd imagine they'd use plain ice cream or something more savory.

Also, since when does flavored yogurt begin with vanilla yogurt as a base?  Maybe I'm just out of the loop since I haven't consumed animal products in many years, but that is certainly not the trend among coconut yogurt and almond yogurt.

[AHoppy]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

ah but in the world of ice cream and yogurt, vanilla provides the foundation or "base" as some might say for creating more flavors. So when you want to make fish flavored ice cream, you add fish to vanilla ice cream, just like adding fish to village turns it orange, gives it coins and takes away its cards...

Does fish ice cream really use vanilla ice cream as its base?  I'd imagine they'd use plain ice cream or something more savory.

Also, since when does flavored yogurt begin with vanilla yogurt as a base?  Maybe I'm just out of the loop since I haven't consumed animal products in many years, but that is certainly not the trend among coconut yogurt and almond yogurt.

I'm no expert on fish ice cream or yogurt, but I know that you do usually add vanilla to ice cream even if you aren't making vanilla, I believe even chocolate will have some vanilla in it, but I'm not positive. And I suppose with yogurt plain yogurt is a more common base than plain ice cream, so I apologize, that's probably wrong. and I've never had coconut yogurt or almond yogurt... sounds interesting

[mail-mi]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

Oh! I thought he was talking about the most Vanilla Village of them all, Ruined Village.

Don't be silly. How is that more vanilla than the village whose shattered remains we see on Ruined village. The one we call "Walled".

Of course, Sudgy isn't talking about that one. He's talking about the first village of them all. The one that came before all the others. The Native village.

I thought he is talking about the farming village, the one that grow all those vanilla.

No no no, we've got to go all the way back to base. The vanilla ice cream at the Festival, right?

[Kirian]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

That would be quite bazaar if he had meant that.

[sudgy]

...

[Kuildeous]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

That would be quite bazaar if he had meant that.

That's fair.

[SirPeebles]

I am now starting a movement to call the Vanilla Village the Vanillage.  Who's with me?

Which one? Worker's Village?

The original one, it's called the Vanilla Village sometimes, because it's the first.

I don't understand. Why should Plaza be called Vanillage?

Plaza has text instructions on it and therefore is not vanilla. Sudgy was talking about Bazaar.

That would be quite bazaar if he had meant that.

That's fair.

Ugh, I am not going to be party to this conversation.

[markusin]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

ah but in the world of ice cream and yogurt, vanilla provides the foundation or "base" as some might say for creating more flavors. So when you want to make fish flavored ice cream, you add fish to vanilla ice cream, just like adding fish to village turns it orange, gives it coins and takes away its cards...

Does fish ice cream really use vanilla ice cream as its base?  I'd imagine they'd use plain ice cream or something more savory.

Also, since when does flavored yogurt begin with vanilla yogurt as a base?  Maybe I'm just out of the loop since I haven't consumed animal products in many years, but that is certainly not the trend among coconut yogurt and almond yogurt.

But almond ice cream and coconut ice cream do tend to have vanilla flavouring added. Never tried the yogurt's though

[shMerker]

Yogurt usually doesn't have vanilla unless it is actually vanilla-flavored. Yogurt already has a lot of flavor without any other help. Cream without flavor mostly just tastes like bad decisions.

[AHoppy]

Yeah, I was wrong about yogurt. but most ice cream does have vanilla in it I'm pretty sure.

[WanderingWinder]

Yeah, I was wrong about yogurt. but most ice cream does have vanilla in it I'm pretty sure.

But as much as vanilla ice cream does?
On the other hand, must Vanilla ice cream I have has pretty weak/little vanilla in it. I have had some that was quite vanilla-y (and delicious) though.

[scott_pilgrim]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

I think for most people (although I do think that vanilla ice cream is generally underrated), whenever they see vanilla and another ice cream flavor on the board, they'll take the other flavor.  Vanilla village is vanilla because whenever it's on the same board as another village flavor, you usually prefer the other flavor.  However, vanilla ice cream is sort of the standard flavor, so almost any time you would go somewhere that has ice cream, vanilla is an option; hence, vanilla ice cream is easier to get than the other flavors.  In the same way, sometimes you only have enough money to buy a vanilla village, and not the fancy $4 village you'd prefer; so vanilla village is easier to get than the other flavors.

Furthermore, as others have pointed out, most (but not all) ice cream has vanilla in it, regardless of whether it is the vanilla flavor.  Similarly, most (but not all) villages have "+1 card, +2 actions" (or equivalent) in them.  There are still some oddballs, like Native Village and Coconut, but then even that makes sense, because where do you get coconuts?  At the Native Village.

[AHoppy]

I would just like to clarify that I'm not bad mouthing vanilla.  I like vanilla ice cream.  scott_pilgrim makes more sense, I was mostly going for a joke, I apologize for stepping on anyone's cold-sweet-cream-covered toes

[Awaclus]

I have actually been disliking the term "vanilla" in Dominion too, but that's not because I like vanilla (I do, but that's not the reason), that's because I'm a Magic player and therefore I think that a vanilla card is a card with no rules text at all. So Confusion is basically the only vanilla card in my eyes, and it doesn't even exist.

EDIT: Actually the basic Victory cards and Curse are vanilla as well. Treasures are pushing it a little because being worth $X is no different from just giving +$X which isn't vanilla.

[WanderingWinder]

I have actually been disliking the term "vanilla" in Dominion too, but that's not because I like vanilla (I do, but that's not the reason), that's because I'm a Magic player and therefore I think that a vanilla card is a card with no rules text at all. So Confusion is basically the only vanilla card in my eyes, and it doesn't even exist.

EDIT: Actually the basic Victory cards and Curse are vanilla as well. Treasures are pushing it a little because being worth $X is no different from just giving +$X which isn't vanilla.

Yeah, because vanilla creatures don't have power and toughness.

[WanderingWinder]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

I think for most people (although I do think that vanilla ice cream is generally underrated), whenever they see vanilla and another ice cream flavor on the board, they'll take the other flavor.  Vanilla village is vanilla because whenever it's on the same board as another village flavor, you usually prefer the other flavor.  However, vanilla ice cream is sort of the standard flavor, so almost any time you would go somewhere that has ice cream, vanilla is an option; hence, vanilla ice cream is easier to get than the other flavors.  In the same way, sometimes you only have enough money to buy a vanilla village, and not the fancy $4 village you'd prefer; so vanilla village is easier to get than the other flavors.

Furthermore, as others have pointed out, most (but not all) ice cream has vanilla in it, regardless of whether it is the vanilla flavor.  Similarly, most (but not all) villages have "+1 card, +2 actions" (or equivalent) in them.  There are still some oddballs, like Native Village and Coconut, but then even that makes sense, because where do you get coconuts?  At the Native Village.

I definitely think you're wrong. Vanilla ice cream is the most popular flavor, and there are usually other options. Beyond this, why is it exactly that you assume Vanilla refers to flavors of ice cream? I mean, you wouldn't say 'pepperoni' or even 'cheese' and expect people to know you're referring to something plain, even though those are the most ubiquitous pizza toppings. Or with some kind of frosting or pie or what have you.

[eHalcyon]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

I think for most people (although I do think that vanilla ice cream is generally underrated), whenever they see vanilla and another ice cream flavor on the board, they'll take the other flavor.  Vanilla village is vanilla because whenever it's on the same board as another village flavor, you usually prefer the other flavor.  However, vanilla ice cream is sort of the standard flavor, so almost any time you would go somewhere that has ice cream, vanilla is an option; hence, vanilla ice cream is easier to get than the other flavors.  In the same way, sometimes you only have enough money to buy a vanilla village, and not the fancy $4 village you'd prefer; so vanilla village is easier to get than the other flavors.

Furthermore, as others have pointed out, most (but not all) ice cream has vanilla in it, regardless of whether it is the vanilla flavor.  Similarly, most (but not all) villages have "+1 card, +2 actions" (or equivalent) in them.  There are still some oddballs, like Native Village and Coconut, but then even that makes sense, because where do you get coconuts?  At the Native Village.

WW already touched on it, but I'm almost certain you are incorrect.  Vanilla is ubiquitous, but if anything that is an indicator of popularity.  It is available everywhere because people like it so much.  It is considered the de facto standard because it is so popular.

Here is a source.  That's the top 15 flavours according to the "International Ice Cream Association, 888 16th St., Washington, D.C."  Sounds like a reasonable authority on ice cream, at least.   Vanilla leads the pack by a very wide margin, French Vanilla comes in again at #7, and then there's even Vanilla Fudge Ripple at #9.

I'll take Vanilla over Chocolate (second most popular) every time.  Against Strawberry it's a closer race, though I'll go for Vanilla more often.  I've tried some weird but tasty flavours before (e.g. apple pie) and they were pretty great too, but Vanilla is the standard for a reason.

I like how this thread has gone.

[sudgy]

Everybody, so you see this now:

I do not like vanilla ice cream.  (I do like most other kinds though)

So, now, will anybody else call it the vanillage?  It's always annoying when people say village and you aren't sure if it's the normal vanillage or any village.

[scott_pilgrim]

I dislike it mainly because I find the figurative use of "vanilla" as "standard" or "generic" annoying. Vanilla is a distinct and unique flavor.

I think for most people (although I do think that vanilla ice cream is generally underrated), whenever they see vanilla and another ice cream flavor on the board, they'll take the other flavor.  Vanilla village is vanilla because whenever it's on the same board as another village flavor, you usually prefer the other flavor.  However, vanilla ice cream is sort of the standard flavor, so almost any time you would go somewhere that has ice cream, vanilla is an option; hence, vanilla ice cream is easier to get than the other flavors.  In the same way, sometimes you only have enough money to buy a vanilla village, and not the fancy $4 village you'd prefer; so vanilla village is easier to get than the other flavors.

Furthermore, as others have pointed out, most (but not all) ice cream has vanilla in it, regardless of whether it is the vanilla flavor.  Similarly, most (but not all) villages have "+1 card, +2 actions" (or equivalent) in them.  There are still some oddballs, like Native Village and Coconut, but then even that makes sense, because where do you get coconuts?  At the Native Village.

I definitely think you're wrong. Vanilla ice cream is the most popular flavor, and there are usually other options. Beyond this, why is it exactly that you assume Vanilla refers to flavors of ice cream? I mean, you wouldn't say 'pepperoni' or even 'cheese' and expect people to know you're referring to something plain, even though those are the most ubiquitous pizza toppings. Or with some kind of frosting or pie or what have you.

I'm not sure I've ever met someone whose favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.  A couple of month ago I remember being somewhere where an ice-breaker question was favorite ice cream flavor, and out of 25-ish, I noticed that no one said vanilla.  Vanilla is popular to add to other things (like putting it on pie or cobbler or whatever), but is it really that popular by itself?  I don't think I've ever seen someone head straight for the vanilla ice cream at an ice cream shop.  My point was that it's one of the most universal flavors - pretty much anyone who likes ice cream likes vanilla ice cream - but most people prefer something else (in my experience).  It is entirely possible that my experience is completely off for some reason.

Now that I'm thinking about it some more, I see what you mean.  With only Vanilla and Chocolate ice cream available, I could see Vanilla being more popular.  Usually you don't have more than two Villages on the board, so I guess the comparison is not perfect.

As for why I assume it refers to ice cream.  Most of the time, when I hear the word "vanilla", it's being used in a Dominion context to refer to ice cream.  There are other uses for it, and I certainly hear those, but (again, this is just my experience) ice cream seems to be the most common context, by a substantial margin.  When people say pepperoni, I think of pizza, but not when they say cheese (probably because there are so many other common uses of cheese, not so much with pepperoni).  If it weren't for that, cheese would probably be even better than vanilla, because I think cheese pizza does all of things I described in my previous post better than vanilla ice cream does.  Also, I assumed that the use of the term vanilla in a Dominion context originated from ice cream, because that analogy seemed to fit best (although I'm sure a yogurt analogy works reasonably well too).

And of course you wouldn't expect people to think you were talking about something plain if you call it "pepperoni".  Pepperoni isn't plain.  Cheese is plain.  Pepperoni pizza is cheese pizza with pepperoni on it.  That's why cheese pizza costs less than pepperoni pizza.  You could call something cheese to mean plain, but there are so many other contexts in which cheese is used that the cheese pizza analogy wouldn't be obvious, so that's probably why it's not commonly used.  Pepperoni pizza is strictly better than cheese pizza, because you can just take the pepperoni off, just like how worker's village is strictly better than village, because you don't have to use the +buy.  In both cases, that's why the former costs more than the latter.  Dude, I think you've sold me on calling it the cheese village.

Edit: Well, eHalcyon's post kind of defeats this one.  I guess my personal experience is just way off?

[SirPeebles]

Maybe it's an age thing?  When I was a kid I would always go for new and exciting flavors, but at some point in my twenties I became honest with myself and admitted that vanilla is my favorite.  Of course, then I gave up dairy, and my selection shrunk to the point where only a specialty shop is likely to have any nondairy options aside from vanilla.  I am a big fan of the coffee biscotti flavor of hempmilk ice cream made by Tempt.

[SirPeebles]

Also, pepperoni pizza is not strictly better than cheese pizza.  At least when you use pepperoni made from flesh, the flavor permeates all through the pizza slice.  I've known people who dislike the taste of pepperoni, and balk at the suggestion of picking it off.

[Powerman]

And of course you wouldn't expect people to think you were talking about something plain if you call it "pepperoni".  Pepperoni isn't plain.  Cheese is plain.  Pepperoni pizza is cheese pizza with pepperoni on it.  That's why cheese pizza costs less than pepperoni pizza.

Tell that to Little Caesars...

[TWoos]

So, now, will anybody else call it the vanillage?  It's always annoying when people say village and you aren't sure if it's the normal vanillage or any village.

I don't recall exactly, but I thought I once saw a list of terms that playtesters used.  The two terms I think I remember were splitter and chainer.  A splitter was a card that gave +2 actions, and a chainer was a card that gave +1 action, +1 card.  So, spliter = village, chainer = cantrip. 

I mention this because I'd rather use the term splitter for any village type, and Village only to mean Village.

Anyone know where I might have read about this?

[eHalcyon]

Maybe it's an age thing?  When I was a kid I would always go for new and exciting flavors, but at some point in my twenties I became honest with myself and admitted that vanilla is my favorite.  Of course, then I gave up dairy, and my selection shrunk to the point where only a specialty shop is likely to have any nondairy options aside from vanilla.  I am a big fan of the coffee biscotti flavor of hempmilk ice cream made by Tempt.

I suggest sorbets!

I'm still quite happy to try many different flavours when I can, but I think I would quickly get sick of them if I had them often.  I can't really imagine getting sick of vanilla (not for long, at least).



Regarding pizza, I imagine that just picking off pepperoni would not be acceptable for people who don't eat pepperoni for religious reasons or for major health reasons (I'm thinking allergies; not sure if there are people allergic to pork or beef but I wouldn't doubt it as there are some really weird allergies out there).

Also, you can have a pepperoni pizza without cheese.  This seems like a good place to put this:

[heron]

So, now, will anybody else call it the vanillage?  It's always annoying when people say village and you aren't sure if it's the normal vanillage or any village.

I don't recall exactly, but I thought I once saw a list of terms that playtesters used.  The two terms I think I remember were splitter and chainer.  A splitter was a card that gave +2 actions, and a chainer was a card that gave +1 action, +1 card.  So, spliter = village, chainer = cantrip. 

I mention this because I'd rather use the term splitter for any village type, and Village only to mean Village.

Anyone know where I might have read about this?

I think that would be in the thread for onigame's weighted randomizer.

[Kirian]

And of course you wouldn't expect people to think you were talking about something plain if you call it "pepperoni".  Pepperoni isn't plain.  Cheese is plain.  Pepperoni pizza is cheese pizza with pepperoni on it.  That's why cheese pizza costs less than pepperoni pizza.

Tell that to Little Caesars...

That's not pizza.

[TWoos]

I don't recall exactly, but I thought I once saw a list of terms that playtesters used.  The two terms I think I remember were splitter and chainer.  A splitter was a card that gave +2 actions, and a chainer was a card that gave +1 action, +1 card.  So, spliter = village, chainer = cantrip. 

I think that would be in the thread for onigame's weighted randomizer.

Thank you, yes it was.   http://dominionsetgenerator.com/explanations.txt

And I got it somewhat wrong.

Chainer: Gives at least +1 Action
Cantrip: Gives at least +1 Card +1 Action
Splitter: Gives at least +2 Actions

[SirPeebles]

(none pizza with left beef)

*rotates*  Excuse me sir, but I didn't order none pizza with right beef.

[PSGarak]

Everybody, so you see this now:

I do not like vanilla ice cream.  (I do like most other kinds though)

So, now, will anybody else call it the vanillage?  It's always annoying when people say village and you aren't sure if it's the normal vanillage or any village.

I will agree to use the term "Vanillage," under the condition that the community agrees to call Native Village "Coconut Village." There are probably appropriate terms for the other villages (Fish ice cream is not appropriate >=[ ) but that's the only one I can come up with right now. Maybe Festival can be "Fried Village" and Plaza can be "Waffle Cone Village" but I think those are both stretches.

I would believe that Vanilla is far more popular by purchase than by preference. Several contributing factors:
 - It's the "safe" choice. You're buying a tub of ice cream to share with three people. One of them likes cookies & cream, another mint, and the third you don't even know what. You will end up buying vanilla.
 - It's the "default" choice. You want chocolate chip cookie dough, but they're out. What do you get instead, cookies & cream, or vanilla? Probably vanilla.
 - It's ubiquitous.
 - The other flavors split their votes. One person's favorite is chocolate ripple, another's is rum coconut, a third person prefers mint chip. But for all three of them, vanilla is their second or third choice. In a top-5 voting system, vanilla will get the most votes because it's everyone's #5 despite being no one's #1 because no one flavor has a significant number of #1's. (Something something, Condorcet voting systems.)

Vanilla also has wide application outside of ice cream. Many baked recipes, like pecan pie, will call for a shot of vanilla (substitutable by 1/3 the quantity of rum).

[sudgy]

Maybe it's an age thing?  When I was a kid I would always go for new and exciting flavors, but at some point in my twenties I became honest with myself and admitted that vanilla is my favorite.  Of course, then I gave up dairy, and my selection shrunk to the point where only a specialty shop is likely to have any nondairy options aside from vanilla.  I am a big fan of the coffee biscotti flavor of hempmilk ice cream made by Tempt.

Well, I like simple flavors, not the weird ones.  My favorite is strawberry.  I just don't like Vanilla that much.  After strawberry (or other similar berries) and some of the well known chocolately ones (chocolate, chocolate chip cookie dough, mint chocolate chip, and maybe a few others I can't remember), I'm afraid to eat the ice cream in case I don't like it...

[blueblimp]

Vanilla ice cream is boring by itself, but goes well with other items, like cake, pie, etc., where a strong-flavoured ice cream would be too much. In that way, most of the villages have a vanilla-like quality to them.

On the actual topic of the thread, "Vanillage" is mostly unnecessary in written English, because of capitalization. At the beginning of the sentence, pluralization can help. (For example, "Village is a good card in engines" vs "villages are good cards in engines".)

There are still some oddballs, like Native Village and Coconut, but then even that makes sense, because where do you get coconuts?  At the Native Village.

Well, I'm convinced.

[ConMan]

I like vanilla, but particularly "proper" vanilla which is sometimes known as French vanilla which actually uses vanilla beans rather than imitation vanilla flavouring, and I'm fine with referring to the Vanillage, and by extension, Coconut Village.

[qmech]

On the actual topic of the thread, "Vanillage" is mostly unnecessary in written English, because of capitalization.

But what do they do in German?

(I'm surprised it took so long for capitalisation to come up, as that's how we normally handle it.)

[pst]

... whenever they see vanilla and another ice cream flavor on the board, they'll take the other flavor.

I say as Donald Duck:

[Stealth Tomato]

This is the best thread I've ever seen.

[ChocophileBenj]

Vanilla : let's go !

Thank you anyway, you Dominion fans, because now, everytime I think of creating a character for an RPG, I say (s)he is born/ has grown up in a village called "Vanilla".
I also know Vanilla is the fan-name of the first game of World of Warcraft and...

oh yeah, I used to talk about video games in my posts, and a bit of Mario Kart (too lazy to look for those posts but I remember a really bad card ideas about varying of knights). There were also 2 tracks called Vanilla lake in the first episode, I will never forget those ones : the first where you've to dodge everything, and the second which has a true lake and you can try to surf on it to grab some time.

[sudgy]

oh yeah, I used to talk about video games in my posts, and a bit of Mario Kart (too lazy to look for those posts but I remember a really bad card ideas about varying of knights). There were also 2 tracks called Vanilla lake in the first episode, I will never forget those ones : the first where you've to dodge everything, and the second which has a true lake and you can try to surf on it to grab some time.

When it started with "I used to" then talk about video games, I was waiting the whole time for "until I took an arrow to the knee"...

[Kirian]

Splitter: Gives at least +2 Actions

[ycz6]

Plenty of gaming communities use "Vanilla" to refer to an unmodified version of a game.

Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver.2012 (haha the name is long, we know) is the tournament standard, and people refer to regular old Street Fighter IV as "vanilla SFIV." The Super Smash Bros. Brawl modding community refers to the unmodded game as "vBrawl", which is short for "vanilla Brawl".

[sudgy]

Plenty of gaming communities use "Vanilla" to refer to an unmodified version of a game.

Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver.2012 (haha the name is long, we know) is the tournament standard, and people refer to regular old Street Fighter IV as "vanilla SFIV." The Super Smash Bros. Brawl modding community refers to the unmodded game as "vBrawl", which is short for "vanilla Brawl".

Minecraft as well, as an example (I play minecraft a lot, so that's why I've heard of it before).  And me and my friends have joked around that something that somehow has all mods installed is "chocolate".

[ConMan]

On the xkcd forums (or fora, if you prefer that URL), mafia games are sometimes referred to as having a "vanilla" setup if it's a basic town vs mafia with, at most, some standard roles like cop and doctor and no funny rules. If it's a bit more complicated than vanilla but still probably newbie-friendly, it might be called "chocolate".

[shMerker]

I'm a big fan of vanilla ice cream because you can do so many things with it. Such as...

Wine Gum Sauce (about two servings)

1. Pour about a cup of mirin (I suspect any sweet cooking will work in it's place) into a pan and cook it on medium low heat until it starts to bubble.
2. Add about 2 tablespoons of butter. Stir that around until it melts.
3. Cook it like that, stirring it occasionally, until you can push the stuff aside with a spoon or spatula and it doesn't start re-covering the bare spot. This takes about 10 minutes.
4. Remove from heat. Let it cool a few minutes and pour it over vanilla ice cream. It should turn into a yellowish, chewy shell.

[markusin]

Plenty of gaming communities use "Vanilla" to refer to an unmodified version of a game.

Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver.2012 (haha the name is long, we know) is the tournament standard, and people refer to regular old Street Fighter IV as "vanilla SFIV." The Super Smash Bros. Brawl modding community refers to the unmodded game as "vBrawl", which is short for "vanilla Brawl".

Minecraft as well, as an example (I play minecraft a lot, so that's why I've heard of it before).  And me and my friends have joked around that something that somehow has all mods installed is "chocolate".

The term Vanilla is also used among the Doom community to refer to the original Doom executables and things that can run on the original engine. There's also a source port called Chocolate Doom.

[blueblimp]

Plenty of gaming communities use "Vanilla" to refer to an unmodified version of a game.

Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver.2012 (haha the name is long, we know) is the tournament standard, and people refer to regular old Street Fighter IV as "vanilla SFIV." The Super Smash Bros. Brawl modding community refers to the unmodded game as "vBrawl", which is short for "vanilla Brawl".

Minecraft as well, as an example (I play minecraft a lot, so that's why I've heard of it before).  And me and my friends have joked around that something that somehow has all mods installed is "chocolate".

The term Vanilla is also used among the Doom community to refer to the original Doom executables and things that can run on the original engine. There's also a source port called Chocolate Doom.

I've played Chocolate Doom before, and it's good. The trouble with many source ports is that they'll use OpenGL and make the graphics all blurry. Fuzzing the edges of pixel art is really gross. Chocolate Doom keeps the crisp edges of the original, while allowing higher resolutions, which is good since 320x200 is a bit limited.

[Jimmmmm]

When I was young, I thought vanilla literally just meant "normal" or "not flavoured". Then one day I discovered that it was actually a flavour in its own right. Then one other I discovered that despite it being a flavour in its own right, people used it to mean "normal" or "not flavoured". True story.

[SirPeebles]

When I was young, I thought vanilla literally just meant "normal" or "not flavoured". Then one day I discovered that it was actually a flavour in its own right. Then one other I discovered that despite it being a flavour in its own right, people used it to mean "normal" or "not flavoured". True story.

When I was young, I thought that "original" meant normal, plain, or ordinary based on its usage as a flavor in marketing.  It led to confusion later in life when I heard people speak of "original ideas" or "original thinkers".

[Voltaire]

When I was young, I thought vanilla literally just meant "normal" or "not flavoured". Then one day I discovered that it was actually a flavour in its own right. Then one other I discovered that despite it being a flavour in its own right, people used it to mean "normal" or "not flavoured". True story.

When I was young, I thought that "original" meant normal, plain, or ordinary based on its usage as a flavor in marketing.  It led to confusion later in life when I heard people speak of "original ideas" or "original thinkers".

Man, I'll never forget when I had the "in" and "de" prefixes messed up. It made a character in a book I was reading very confusing. "You want to increase the value of your land by putting a fence around it??? Are you insane?"

this book sounds realllllllllllllllllllllly boring I now realize

[eHalcyon]

When I was young, I thought vanilla literally just meant "normal" or "not flavoured". Then one day I discovered that it was actually a flavour in its own right. Then one other I discovered that despite it being a flavour in its own right, people used it to mean "normal" or "not flavoured". True story.

When I was young, I thought that "original" meant normal, plain, or ordinary based on its usage as a flavor in marketing.  It led to confusion later in life when I heard people speak of "original ideas" or "original thinkers".

Man, I'll never forget when I had the "in" and "de" prefixes messed up. It made a character in a book I was reading very confusing. "You want to increase the value of your land by putting a fence around it??? Are you insane?"

this book sounds realllllllllllllllllllllly boring I now realize

Does "in-" in "increase" count as a prefix?  I can't think of any other words right now where "in-" is positive.  Often "in-" is negative, meaning "not": insensitive, insecure.  Slightly different, "in-" sometimes means something like "beyond": invaluable, incredible.

[Just a Rube]

Does "in-" in "increase" count as a prefix?  I can't think of any other words right now where "in-" is positive.  Often "in-" is negative, meaning "not": insensitive, insecure.  Slightly different, "in-" sometimes means something like "beyond": invaluable, incredible.

Inflammable.

Insert obligatory Simpsons quote here.

[theory]

When I was young, I thought vanilla literally just meant "normal" or "not flavoured". Then one day I discovered that it was actually a flavour in its own right. Then one other I discovered that despite it being a flavour in its own right, people used it to mean "normal" or "not flavoured". True story.

When I was young, I thought that "original" meant normal, plain, or ordinary based on its usage as a flavor in marketing.  It led to confusion later in life when I heard people speak of "original ideas" or "original thinkers".

Man, I'll never forget when I had the "in" and "de" prefixes messed up. It made a character in a book I was reading very confusing. "You want to increase the value of your land by putting a fence around it??? Are you insane?"

this book sounds realllllllllllllllllllllly boring I now realize

Does "in-" in "increase" count as a prefix?  I can't think of any other words right now where "in-" is positive.  Often "in-" is negative, meaning "not": insensitive, insecure.  Slightly different, "in-" sometimes means something like "beyond": invaluable, incredible.

"invaluable" is more reflective of how "valuable" has changed rather than "in-".  After all, valuable did not originally mean "of great value", but rather "capable of being valued".  So in that sense "invaluable" makes perfect sense.  (Similar logic holds for "incredible".)

[Witherweaver]

Does "in-" in "increase" count as a prefix?  I can't think of any other words right now where "in-" is positive.  Often "in-" is negative, meaning "not": insensitive, insecure.  Slightly different, "in-" sometimes means something like "beyond": invaluable, incredible.

Inflammable.

Insert obligatory Simpsons quote here.

"In-" being a positive prefix?  That's unpossible!

[Witherweaver]

When I was young, I thought vanilla literally just meant "normal" or "not flavoured". Then one day I discovered that it was actually a flavour in its own right. Then one other I discovered that despite it being a flavour in its own right, people used it to mean "normal" or "not flavoured". True story.

When I was young, I thought that "original" meant normal, plain, or ordinary based on its usage as a flavor in marketing.  It led to confusion later in life when I heard people speak of "original ideas" or "original thinkers".

Man, I'll never forget when I had the "in" and "de" prefixes messed up. It made a character in a book I was reading very confusing. "You want to increase the value of your land by putting a fence around it??? Are you insane?"

this book sounds realllllllllllllllllllllly boring I now realize

Does "in-" in "increase" count as a prefix?  I can't think of any other words right now where "in-" is positive.  Often "in-" is negative, meaning "not": insensitive, insecure.  Slightly different, "in-" sometimes means something like "beyond": invaluable, incredible.

The other meaning of the prefix is in the sense of in, into towards, within.  E.g., inscribed, insight, intake, inbound, infighting.

Edit: And while we're at it, "inflammable" is in this category, as it means "able to be ignited into flames" (or into anger, using the emotional meaning of inflamed).  Though we tend to think of "inflammable" as flammable and "nonflammable" as inflammable. 

[markusin]

Does "in-" in "increase" count as a prefix?  I can't think of any other words right now where "in-" is positive.  Often "in-" is negative, meaning "not": insensitive, insecure.  Slightly different, "in-" sometimes means something like "beyond": invaluable, incredible.

Inflammable.

Insert obligatory Simpsons quote here.

Inflammable means flammable? What a country!

[qmech]

"In-" comes to us from Latin, where it already had both of these meanings.  So that's something else the Romans did for us.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

According to the Internet:

There are two main forms of the prefix "in-" in English.

in- (1)

prefix meaning "not, opposite of, without" (also im-, il-, ir- by assimilation of -n- with following consonant), from Latin in- "not," cognate with Greek an-, Old English un-, from PIE *ne "not" (see un- (1)).

in- (2)

element meaning "into, in, on, upon" (also im-, il-, ir- by assimilation of -n- with following consonant), from Latin in- "in" (see in). In Old French this often became en-, which usually was respelled in English to conform with Latin, but not always, which accounts for pairs like enquire/inquire. There was a native form, which in West Saxon usually appeared as on- (cf. Old English onliehtan "to enlighten"), and some verbs survived into Middle English (cf. inwrite "to inscribe"), but all now seem to be extinct. Not related to in- (1) "not," which also was a common prefix in Latin: to the Romans impressus could mean "pressed" or "unpressed."


The use of "in-" in "increase" corresponds with the second definition.

increase (v.)

early 14c., "become greater in size or number; to cause to grow, enlarge," from Anglo-French encress-, Old French encreiss-, present participle stem of encreistre, from Latin increscere "to increase, to grow upon, grow over, swell, grow into," from in- "in" (see in- (2)) + crescere "to grow" (see crescent). Latin spelling restored 15c. Related: Increased; increasing.

In case you wanted to see the entry about the word "in", to which the second definition is related, here it is:

in

Old English in (prep.) "in, into, upon, on, at, among; about, during;" inne (adv.) "within, inside," from Proto-Germanic *in (cf. Old Frisian, Dutch, German, Gothic in, Old Norse i), from PIE *en "in" (cf. Greek en, Latin in "in, into," Old Irish in, Welsh yn-, Old Church Slavonic on-). As an adjective from 1590s.

The forms merged in Middle English. Modern sense distinction between in and on is from later Middle English. Sense of "holding power" (the in party) first recorded c.1600; that of "exclusive" (the in-crowd, an in-joke) is from 1907 (in-group); that of "stylish, fashionable" (the in thing) is from 1960. The noun sense of "influence, access" (have an in with) first recorded 1929 in American English. In-and-out "copulation" is attested from 1610s.

[Jimmmmm]

So that's something else the Romans did for us.

Did you know the Romans invented apple bobbing?

[Kirian]

"In-" comes to us from Latin, where it already had both of these meanings.  So that's something else the Romans did for us.

Hey, there's also this:



Not to be confused with Arial.

(Also why the hell am I awake at 04:30?  I don't know.)

[Witherweaver]

According to the Internet:

<whatever goes here is true>

[AdamH]

I'm not sure I've ever met someone whose favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

[...]

I think cheese pizza does all of things I described in my previous post better than vanilla ice cream does.

Favorite flavor of ice cream: Vanilla

Favorite flavor of pizza: cheese only.

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure I've ever met someone whose favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

[...]

I think cheese pizza does all of things I described in my previous post better than vanilla ice cream does.

Favorite flavor of ice cream: Vanilla

Favorite flavor of pizza: cheese only.

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

What about having vanilla as your pizza topping?

[AdamH]

I'm not sure I've ever met someone whose favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

[...]

I think cheese pizza does all of things I described in my previous post better than vanilla ice cream does.

Favorite flavor of ice cream: Vanilla

Favorite flavor of pizza: cheese only.

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

What about having vanilla as your pizza topping?

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

[Just a Rube]

So all this talking about vanilla and prefixes got me thinking:

What if we referred to the regular ("vanilla") village as a "vanillage"?

[AdamH]

So all this talking about vanilla and prefixes got me thinking:

What if we referred to the regular ("vanilla") village as a "vanillage"?

Never.

I don't like putting toppings on my pizza, but I usually don't mind putting stuff like sprinkles on my ice cream. However, sprinkles and I are on a break after the g/f ordered a "birthday cake flurry" that consisted of nothing but sprinkes. and about a teaspoon of soft serve.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure I've ever met someone whose favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

[...]

I think cheese pizza does all of things I described in my previous post better than vanilla ice cream does.

Favorite flavor of ice cream: Vanilla

Favorite flavor of pizza: cheese only.

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

What about having vanilla as your pizza topping?

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

Vanilla pizza is not vanilla

[itchiko]

[Dsell]

*wakes up from ten year coma*

CHANTILLY TOWN

[Galzria]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

[Just a Rube]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

[heron]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

Or just make it a victory card to get twelve doctors.

[Witherweaver]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

Did anyone make this type of joke when Guilds came out?

[LastFootnote]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

Did anyone make this type of joke when Guilds came out?

Yes.

[Witherweaver]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

Did anyone make this type of joke when Guilds came out?

Yes.

Where was it?

[LastFootnote]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

Did anyone make this type of joke when Guilds came out?

Yes.

Where was it?

Either in the Guilds Previews subforum or on BoardGameGeek. Or both.

[Stealth Tomato]

I'm not sure I've ever met someone whose favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

[...]

I think cheese pizza does all of things I described in my previous post better than vanilla ice cream does.

Favorite flavor of ice cream: Vanilla

Favorite flavor of pizza: cheese only.

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

What about having vanilla as your pizza topping?

I can't stand it when people ruin my pizza with toppings.

Vanilla pizza is not vanilla

I love vanilla pizza, but vanilla pizza would be terrible.

[eHalcyon]

Cheese ice cream?

I think I've had cheesecake ice cream.

[Squidd]

Roasted Fig & Goat Cheese ice cream sounds delicious and definitely not vanilla.

[shMerker]

I've had a pizza with those toppings as well. So we've found the intersection of the Ice Cream Flavor/Pizza Topping Venn diagram.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Mmmmm...Pizza topping Venn diagram...

[ycz6]

Inflammable = inflame + -able
Inflammable ≠ in- + flammable

[Asper]

*reads new thread title*


...


Finally there's a thread for that!

[jonts26]

*reads new thread title*


...


Finally there's a thread for that!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg275358;topicseen#new

[StrongRhino]

Mmmmm...Pizza topping Venn diagram...

Hate to break it to ya, but those are some seriously messed up pizzas.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Honestly, you're right. It's not a very illustrative Venn diagram either. It's the best I could do on short notice.

*Edit--No I didn't make them. I did go through the effort of using google image search though.

[sudgy]

Honestly, you're right. It's not a very illustrative Venn diagram either. It's the best I could do on short notice.

...You made those?!?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

This topic has been going on for too long.

[sudgy]

This topic has been going on for too long.

I saw that coming a topic away...  (not really?  I don't quite get what that would mean...  I mean more that I saw the train derailing

[gman314]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

I think that there should be a "Master" card so that we have Master and Apprentice as well as Master and Doctor.

[Tables]

This topic has been going on for too long.

[gif]

Considering how recently this happened, I think is in rather bad taste.

[jonts26]

This topic has been going on for too long.

[gif]

Considering how recently this happened, I think is in rather bad taste.

What's the appropriate time frame to start making light of tragedies then?

[Dsell]

This topic has been going on for too long.

[gif]

Considering how recently this happened, I think is in rather bad taste.

Look on the bright side: the train in Spain fell mainly on the plain.

[theory]

This topic has been going on for too long.

[gif]

Considering how recently this happened, I think is in rather bad taste.

What's the appropriate time frame to start making light of tragedies then?

Sometimes a line exists, even when you cannot pinpoint its exact location.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I apologize if I offended anyone; my tastefulness circuits may have been malfunctioning.

I do have a bit of a proclivity toward the "black comedy" though. Humor is one of the best ways sometimes for me to deal with the heartbreak and absurdity of reality.

Anyway, here's a vehicular catastrophe that happened less recently:

[Witherweaver]

I think I missed something about this thread.... is it the Harry Potter / Doctor Who / Power Rangers crossover thread?

Has anyone in the Variants and Fan Cards forum made a Doctor Who fan card, sort of like Knights?

We currently have 11 doctors, so that would be 10 kingdom cards + 1 randomizer. Since Matt Smith is leaving at the end of this year, now would be the time to do it.

I think that there should be a "Master" card so that we have Master and Apprentice as well as Master and Doctor.

Trash a card from your hand.  For each coin in the trashed card's cost, look at the top card of your deck; trash it, discard it, draw it, or put it back.

[gman314]

I apologize if I offended anyone; my tastefulness circuits may have been malfunctioning.

I do have a bit of a proclivity toward the "black comedy" though. Humor is one of the best ways sometimes for me to deal with the heartbreak and absurdity of reality.

Anyway, here's a vehicular catastrophe that happened less recently:

Oh, so now this thread's crashing and burning instead.

[Stealth Tomato]

This topic has been going on for too long.

[gif]

Considering how recently this happened, I think is in rather bad taste.

What's the appropriate time frame to start making light of tragedies then?

Personally, I think tasteless jokes are already valid. Tacky memes for use in forum threads, however, have a statute of limitations around, well, forever.

[Qvist]

Sorry for this in-appropriate necro, but I had to say that I laughed so hard reading this thread. Thanks.