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[GendoIkari]

There's quite possible multiple answers for this, but this just happened in a real game, and it was quite interesting:

After playing Ironmonger, I chose to keep a Copper on top of my deck instead of discarding it. Why?

Notes: Ironmonger could have just as easily been Spy. Though it was a Copper in my game, it could have been a Curse/Estate/Ruins/Shelter... in other words, the answer has nothing to do with wanting a Copper in your hand.

Also, the answer is not as simple as "you want to draw it so you can trash it (Upgrade)".

[Jimmmmm]

You expect to be Possessed?

[KingZog3]

You have Mystic so you can name the card? Lookout to trash it (you said not draw it)?

[Jimmmmm]

You're about to play a Smithy or something and you don't want to trigger a re-shuffle?

[GendoIkari]

Not Posession.. I suppose that's the answer to just about every "exception to the rule" puzzle though. No trashing involved at all, Mystic would be disqualified as wanting the card in hand (it would generally be better to take a random guess at maybe drawing a card than to definitely draw a useless card).

Jimmmmm's on the right track...

[Jimmmmm]

You had two more Ironmongers (or some other cantrips) in your hand and you want to ensure that you can trigger your Menagerie?

[KingZog3]

Not Posession.. I suppose that's the answer to just about every "exception to the rule" puzzle though. No trashing involved at all, Mystic would be disqualified as wanting the card in hand (it would generally be better to take a random guess at maybe drawing a card than to definitely draw a useless card).

You can still use copper for money. Otherwise you risk not drawing anything.

You were deck tracking and you know your next hand will have Moneylender to trash the copper?

[Jimmmmm]

Not Posession.. I suppose that's the answer to just about every "exception to the rule" puzzle though. No trashing involved at all, Mystic would be disqualified as wanting the card in hand (it would generally be better to take a random guess at maybe drawing a card than to definitely draw a useless card).

You can still use copper for money. Otherwise you risk not drawing anything.

You were deck tracking and you know your next hand will have Moneylender to trash the copper?

He said the Copper could be any bad card.

[eHalcyon]

If Jimm was on the right track earlier, maybe you were looking to trigger a reshuffle with it in hand, so that it would miss the reshuffle.  But that actually shouldn't be so helpful, because making it miss *this* reshuffle is usually better than making it miss the *next* reshuffle.


Another answer: deck tracking, you know your Amb is going to be in that hand.

[KingZog3]

Not Posession.. I suppose that's the answer to just about every "exception to the rule" puzzle though. No trashing involved at all, Mystic would be disqualified as wanting the card in hand (it would generally be better to take a random guess at maybe drawing a card than to definitely draw a useless card).

You can still use copper for money. Otherwise you risk not drawing anything.

You were deck tracking and you know your next hand will have Moneylender to trash the copper?

He said the Copper could be any bad card.

Oh yeah, my bad.

[GendoIkari]

You had two more Ironmongers (or some other cantrips) in your hand and you want to ensure that you can trigger your Menagerie?

Bigger hint I suppose.. When I say you don't want the card in hand, I mean you really don't want it in hand....

[KingZog3]

You had two more Ironmongers (or some other cantrips) in your hand and you want to ensure that you can trigger your Menagerie?

Bigger hint I suppose.. When I say you don't want the card in hand, I mean you really don't want it in hand....

Poor House?

[GendoIkari]

If Jimm was on the right track earlier, maybe you were looking to trigger a reshuffle with it in hand, so that it would miss the reshuffle.  But that actually shouldn't be so helpful, because making it miss *this* reshuffle is usually better than making it miss the *next* reshuffle.


Another answer: deck tracking, you know your Amb is going to be in that hand.

Getting closer. You do indeed plan on making it miss the reshuffle...

[GendoIkari]

You had two more Ironmongers (or some other cantrips) in your hand and you want to ensure that you can trigger your Menagerie?

Bigger hint I suppose.. When I say you don't want the card in hand, I mean you really don't want it in hand....

Poor House?

I don't think Poor House would ever cause you to put a bad card back on top....

[Jimmmmm]

Maybe you have 5 cards left and you somehow know the other 4 are really good (Navigator?) and you don't want the good ones to miss your reshuffle? (Say they were a Crossroads and 3 Goons.)

[GendoIkari]

Maybe you have 5 cards left and you somehow know the other 4 are really good (Navigator?) and you don't want the good ones to miss your reshuffle? (Say they were a Crossroads and 3 Goons.)

That's really the same as the Smithy answer isn't it?

Hint: the number of cards left in your deck definitely matters.

[KingZog3]

Your opponent is playing Margrave engine every turn. You have only 5 cards left in your draw pile. By leaving it, you get to shuffle your discard to draw a card then discard your bad card leaving it out of a shuffle.

[GendoIkari]

Your opponent is playing Margrave engine every turn. You have only 5 cards left in your draw pile. By leaving it, you get to shuffle your discard to draw a card then discard your bad card leaving it out of a shuffle.

I like this one. Probably the closest to mine.

Answer:
Sage       

Explanation:
Copper was the last card in my draw pile. I was about to play a Sage. If I discard the Copper, Sage immediately shuffles everything, including the Copper. If I keep the Copper, Sage sets it aside, then Shuffles everything without the Copper.

[KingZog3]

Your opponent is playing Margrave engine every turn. You have only 5 cards left in your draw pile. By leaving it, you get to shuffle your discard to draw a card then discard your bad card leaving it out of a shuffle.

I like this one. Probably the closest to mine.

Answer:
Sage       

Explanation:
Copper was the last card in my draw pile. I was about to play a Sage. If I discard the Copper, Sage immediately shuffles everything, including the Copper. If I keep the Copper, Sage sets it aside, then Shuffles everything without the Copper.

Very nice. Golem works for that too.

[GendoIkari]

Your opponent is playing Margrave engine every turn. You have only 5 cards left in your draw pile. By leaving it, you get to shuffle your discard to draw a card then discard your bad card leaving it out of a shuffle.

I like this one. Probably the closest to mine.

Answer:
Sage       

Explanation:
Copper was the last card in my draw pile. I was about to play a Sage. If I discard the Copper, Sage immediately shuffles everything, including the Copper. If I keep the Copper, Sage sets it aside, then Shuffles everything without the Copper.

Very nice. Golem works for that too.

Yeah, I realized that. Though not with Ruins. And Adventurer works with Ruins and Curses, but not Copper. Of course Sage doesn't work with Provinces and Duchies, while the others do.

[RTT]

another possible answer: you are about to play a harvest and ist the only copper/curse/ruin/shelter in your deck

[Qvist]

If you don't mind, GendoIkari, I have a good one too.
Edge casers, here's something for you.

With my last action of the current turn I play a Baron. I have an Estate in hand, but choose to not discard it. Why?
I can only think of one reason.

[RTT]

You have allready 16 coins and want the buy to get the last two provinces and get the extra estate for a tie braker

[Awaclus]

With my last action of the current turn I play a Baron. I have an Estate in hand, but choose to not discard it. Why?
I can only think of one reason.

You need to gain three cards this turn for any reason.

[Qvist]

Oh yes, d'oh. I think too complicated. You can just use the buy for another card if you have enough money and gain an additional Estate.
But maybe someone can think of what I had in mind.