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Re: 7 Wonders II (Leader draft)
« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2013, 02:56:24 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 03:32:01 pm by Tables »
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2013, 02:58:56 pm »

For purposes of the forum game, would it be prudent to refer to all neighbors as above and below? That way, we don't have to remember which direction corresponds where.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2013, 03:03:09 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2013, 03:06:40 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2013, 03:07:36 pm »

I made a QT for myself already!
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2013, 03:08:41 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2013, 03:11:28 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2013, 03:21:30 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 03:32:12 pm by Tables »
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2013, 03:33:32 pm »

How do you have 2 picked already, Galz?  Tables forwarded them to you?

Kuildeous! *fist shaking*
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2013, 03:37:06 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2013, 03:37:40 pm »

How do you have 2 picked already, Galz?  Tables forwarded them to you?

Kuildeous! *fist shaking*

Well, I was planning on keeping them all to myself, but you had to go and ruin that plan.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2013, 03:40:21 pm »

Will pick one tomorrow, need some time to go over them. Night time here for me.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2013, 03:44:09 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2013, 03:46:13 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Galzria - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2013, 03:48:36 pm »

I bet the Leader I want most is unavailable or already chosen. :(
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2013, 03:52:56 pm »

I bet the Leader I want most is unavailable or already chosen. :(

I have it. I'm actually going to use to pick the gunk from between my toes.
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2013, 03:55:16 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Galzria - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2013, 03:56:54 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

Blame Tables for ninja-editing into my post as Kuild posted his updated off my original. :P
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2013, 04:09:05 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

Blame Tables for ninja-editing into my post as Kuild posted his updated off my original. :P

Looks like it yeah :P.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #69 on: January 31, 2013, 04:10:03 pm »

Quote from: Leader draft

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

Blame Tables for ninja-editing into my post as Kuild posted his updated off my original. :P

Looks like it yeah :P.

#66 should be up-to-date however.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #70 on: January 31, 2013, 04:12:33 pm »

Kuild, pick your second so I can pick my third and bemoan my terrible luck! :P
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Leader draft)
« Reply #71 on: January 31, 2013, 04:46:04 pm »

Done!

....

<Insert "That's what she said YOU said" joke here>

....

Damn, now I gotta wait! I'm so impatient. Hey Kuildeous, go take your turn on BGO!
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Leader draft)
« Reply #72 on: January 31, 2013, 04:54:20 pm »

Done!

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<Insert "That's what she said YOU said" joke here>

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Damn, now I gotta wait! I'm so impatient. Hey Kuildeous, go take your turn on BGO!

BGO?
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Re: 7 Wonders II (Leader draft)
« Reply #73 on: January 31, 2013, 04:58:38 pm »

Some various rule points and PBF expediation notes.

1) There are three black/city cards (one per age) whose effect is copying a science symbol from a neighbouring cities green cards (I'll call them mask cards from now on). These can only choose a specific green card in a specific neighbour's city once, if you have two or more mask cards. So e.g. you could copy a Gear from a Workshop on your left neighbour AND one from a Workshop on your right neighbour, but you couldn't copy a single Workshop twice (e.g. if it was the only green card either of your neighbours built).

2) A more important point. Unless you request otherwise or cannot afford it, I will always assume you pay debt by discarding coins. The main issue here is that most people will probably have their next hand by the time you'd need to decide otherwise, and it could seriously affect your choice seeing that.

I realise Halikarnassos (and now Rome) has essentially had the same issue, when it builds a wonder stage. With Halikarnassos I don't think it makes much difference, as the card he plays is free, but maybe with Rome it could affect things. We could fix this in two ways. 1) I always send these wonders their hands when they've reached the point that they can build their wonder stages. Or 2) We just don't care, those wonders become slightly stronger, but certainly not enough to be overpowered in my opinion.

Quote from: Leader draft
Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: 7 Wonders II (Pre-game: Wonder selection)
« Reply #74 on: January 31, 2013, 05:01:59 pm »

Kuildeous - Chooses side B of Rhodes
eHalcyon - Chooses side B of Gizah
Galzria - Chooses side B of Babylon
mith - Chooses side B of Petra
Qvist - Chooses side B of Halikarnassos
Davio - Chooses side A of Byzantium
Insomniac - Chooses side B of Rome

Davio, you're such an outsider. Boo!
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