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7 Wonders lasts three ages. In each age, players receive seven cards from a particular deck, choose one of those cards, then pass the remainder to an adjacent player, as in Fairy Tale or a Magic: the Gathering booster draft. Players reveal their cards simultaneously, paying resources if needed or collecting resources or interacting with other players in various ways. (Players have individual boards with special powers on which to organize their cards, and the boards are double-sided as in Bauza's Ghost Stories.) Each player then chooses another card from the deck they were passed, and the process repeats until players have six cards in play from that age. After three ages, the game ends.

In essence 7 Wonders is a card development game along the lines of Race for the Galaxy or Dominion. Some cards have immediate effects, while others provide bonuses or upgrades later in the game. Some cards provide discounts on future purchases. Some provide military strength to overpower your neighbors and others give nothing but victory points. Unlike Magic or Fairy Tale, however, each card is played immediately after being drafted, so you'll know which cards your neighbor is receiving and how his choices might affect what you've already built up. Cards are passed left-right-left over the three ages, so you need to keep an eye on the neighbors in both directions.

BGG description

This is the second PBF of 7 Wonders. This will be a game for 7 players using both expansions

The rules for the game (along with expansion rules) can be found here I will however explain how the game will be played via forum. At the start of the game I will randomise player seating order and wonder boards (each wonder is different as you might expect!). Then each player will PM me their choice of side for that board, and I will reveal all choices simultaneously. After that each age will work the same way. Each player will be sent a hand of cards, from which they will choose one to build/discard/use on their wonder. They will send their choice to me, along with any choices involved in that card (this includes who to pay for resources, what they are doing with the card (build/discard etc.), whether to use special abilities the player may have). Once everyone has chosen these, all of the card builds will be resolved, and each player's hand will be sent on to the next player, and I will post an update of each player's civilisation.

At the end of 3 ages, I'll do a check of the scores, and a winner will be declared.

Information Dump

Wonders (This will be culled down to the 7 Wonders in play after selection)

The Colossus of Rhodes (A) - Produce Ore
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 2 Shields. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 4 Ore

The Colossus of Rhodes (B) - Produce Ore
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

The Lighthouse of Alexandria (A) - Produce Glass
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Glass

The Lighthouse of Alexandria (B) - Produce Glass
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone

The Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (A) - Produce Papyrus
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 9 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Papyrus

The Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B) - Produce Papyrus
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass

The Hanging Gardens of Babylon (A) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: 3 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 4 Brick

The Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 7th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

The Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A) - Produce Wood
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore

The Statue of Zeus at Olympia (B) - Produce Wood
(1) Raw materials cost 1 to buy from both sides. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) Copy 1 guild left or right. Cost: Cloth, 2 Ore

The Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A) - Produce Cloth
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth

The Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B) - Produce Cloth
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

The Pyramids of Gizah (A) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 4 Stone

The Pyramids of Gizah (B) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

The Colloseum of Rome (A) - Free leaders
(1) 4 VPs. Cost: Brick, Wood, Stone
(2) 6 VPs. Cost: Cloth, 2 Stone, Brick

The Colloseum of Rome (B) - Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

The Al-Khazneh of Petra (A) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Wood, Stone
(2) 7 VPs. Cost: 7 Coins
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, Wood, 2 Stone

The Al-Khazneh of Petra (B) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

The Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

The Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore

Age I cards

Normal cards - all 49 of these will be used.
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Pawnshop: 3 VPs.
Pawnshop: 3 VPs.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Theater: 2 VPs. Chain to: Statue.
Theater: 2 VPs. Chain to: Statue.
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Tavern: 5 Coins.
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.
Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.
Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.
Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore.
Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus.

Cities - 7 of these cards will be randomly added to the deck.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left. Cost: 1 Coin.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right. Cost: 1 Coin.
Militia: 2 Shields. Cost: 3 Coins.
Hideout: 2 VPs, everyone elses loses 1 coin.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.. Cost: 1 Coin, Ore.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin..
Residence: 1 VP, diplomacy. Cost: Brick.
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs. Cost: 1 Coin, Wood.

Age II cards

Normal cards - all 49 of these will be used.
Sawmill: Produce two Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Sawmill: Produce two Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Quarry: Produce two Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Quarry: Produce two Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Brickyard: Produce two Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Brickyard: Produce two Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Foundry: Produce two Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Foundry: Produce two Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths. Cost: 3 Stone.
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths. Cost: 3 Stone.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Courthouse: 4 VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth.
Courthouse: 4 VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications. Cost: 3 Stone.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications. Cost: 3 Stone.
Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary. Cost: Ore, Brick. Wood.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary. Cost: Ore, Brick. Wood.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University. Cost: 2 Stone, Cloth.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University. Cost: 2 Stone, Cloth.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study. Cost: Wood, Papyrus.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study. Cost: Wood, Papyrus.

Cities - 7 of these cards will be randomly added to the deck.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields. Cost: 4 Coins, Papyrus.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins. Cost: Wood, Glass.
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce. Cost: Ore, Cloth.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.. Cost: 1 Coin.
Architect Cabinet: 2 VPs. Your wonder stages no longer cost resources (but may still cost money). Cost: 1 Coin, Papyrus.
Spy Ring: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.. Cost: 2 Coins, Stone, Brick.
Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Brick, Papyrus.
Sepulcher: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 1 coin per military victory. Cost: Stone, Glass, Cloth.
Tabularium: 6 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins, Ore, Wood, Cloth.

Age III cards

Normal cards - all 40 of these will be used.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick.
Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Palace: 8 VPs. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth, Brick, Wood, Ore, Stone.
Palace: 8 VPs. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth, Brick, Wood, Ore, Stone.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum. Cost: Cloth, Ore, Wood.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum. Cost: Cloth, Ore, Wood.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery. Cost: Glass, Stone.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery. Cost: Glass, Stone.
Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls. Cost: Stone, 3 Ore.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls. Cost: Stone, 3 Ore.
Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore.
Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore.
Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore.
Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth.
Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth.
Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth.
Siege Workshop: 3 Shields. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: Wood, 3 Brick.
Siege Workshop: 3 Shields. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: Wood, 3 Brick.
Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus.
Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass, Cloth.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass, Cloth.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library. Cost: 2 Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library. Cost: 2 Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School. Cost: 3 Stone, Glass.
Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School. Cost: 3 Stone, Glass.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School. Cost: Wood, Papyrus, Cloth.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School. Cost: Wood, Papyrus, Cloth.

Guilds - 9 of these will be randomly added to the deck.
Workers Guild: 1 VP per brown card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, Brick, Stone, Wood.
Craftsmens Guild: 2 VPs per gray card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, 2 Stone.
Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: Glass, Cloth, Papyrus.
Philosophers Guild: 1 VP per green card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Brick, Glass.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, Stone, Cloth.
Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city. Cost: 3 Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
Scientists Guild: Compasses/Gear/Tablet. Cost: 2 Wood, 2 Ore, Papyrus.
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Wood, Stone, Cloth.
Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours. Cost: 2 Stone, 2 Brick, Glass.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.. Cost: Stone, Brick, Wood, Ore.
Courtesan's Guild: Choose a leader in an adjacent city. You gain the effect of that leader. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass, Cloth.
Diplomat's Guild: 1 VP per leader in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: Brick, Wood, Glass, Papyrus.
Architect's Guild: 3 VPs per purple card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Ore, Brick, Papyrus, Cloth.
Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.. Cost: 3 Ore, Glass, Cloth.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Brick, Wood, Papyrus.
Mouner's Guild: 1 VP per victory token in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Brick, Wood, Glass, Cloth.

Cities - 7 of these will be randomly added to the deck
Contingent: 5 Shields. Cost: 5 Coins, Cloth.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore, Cloth.
Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card. Cost: Stone, Papyrus.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token. Cost: 2 Ore, 2 Wood.
Torture Chamber: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.. Cost: 3 Coins, 2 Ore, Glass.
Builder's Union: 4 VPs, everyone elses loses 1 coin per wonder stage built. Cost: Brick, Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Stone, Cloth, Papyrus.
Capitol: 8 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins, 2 Brick, 2 Stone, Glass, Papyrus.
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token. Cost: 2 Brick, Stone, Cloth, Glass.

Leaders - 4 of these will be dealt to every player, then they will be drafted.

Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Plato: 7 VPs per set of brown, gray, blue, red, green, yellow and purple cards.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource. Cost: 4 Coins.
Macenas: All future leaders can be played for free. Cost: 1 Coin.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.
Tomyris: During conflict, defeat tokens you would earn are instead given to the city which beats you . Cost: 4 Coins.
Hannibal: 1 Shield. Cost: 2 Coins.
Ceaser: 2 Shields. Cost: 5 Coins.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.. Cost: 1 Coin.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.. Cost: 1 Coin.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Croseus: Take 6 coins. Cost: 1 Coin.
Hypatia: 1 VP per green card.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Pericles: 2 VPs per red card. Cost: 6 Coins.
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Hiram: 2 VPs per purple card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Sappo: 2 VPs. Cost: 1 Coin.
Zenobia: 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins.
Nefertiti: 4 VPs. Cost: 3 Coins.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs. Cost: 4 Coins.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 4 Coins.
Leonidas: Red cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 2 Coins.
Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 2 Coins.
Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less. Cost: 3 Coins.
Euclid: Compasses. Cost: 5 Coins.
Ptolemy: Tablet. Cost: 5 Coins.
Pythagoras: Gear. Cost: 5 Coins.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins. Cost: 2 Coins.
Darius: 1 VP per black card.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Aspasia: 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: 3 Coins.
Caligua: Once per age, build a black card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Semiramis: 1 Shiled per defeat token.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins.

Player order
This is the order the players are sitting around the table. The player above you is the one on your left, and below you is the one on your right (wrapping around at the top/bottom).

Kuildeous - Rhodes
eHalcyon - Gizah
Galzria - Babylon
mith - Petra
Qvist - Halikarnassos
Davio - Byzantium
Insomniac - Rome

[shraeye]

seems highly interesting.  My availability depends on when you start.

[mith]

/in, and fine with whatever you want to throw in.

[Galzria]

I'll give it another shot. Maybe I'll even read each turn closer and not make a major mistake at least twice every Age (which is hard to do considering you only get 6 choices - but somehow I managed it so far in 7W-I ).

[Qvist]

Like I said: /in and I have no idea about the expansions. So do whatever you feel what might be best.

[Tables]

shraeye, it'll probably be pretty soon. That's already 3 people who've said they're in, you'd be 4 and 7 is the limit.

[eHalcyon]

In. It will take less time to play than to spectate like I've been doing.

Will play anything. You should consider throwing in the new unreleased wonders; their details have all leaked, I think! 

[Insomniac]

/in please!

[Insomniac]

shraeye, it'll probably be pretty soon. That's already 3 people who've said they're in, you'd be 4 and 7 is the limit.

8 is the limit with cities

[eHalcyon]

shraeye, it'll probably be pretty soon. That's already 3 people who've said they're in, you'd be 4 and 7 is the limit.

8 is the limit with cities

But that's for team play, isn't it?

[shraeye]

I'll have to be out if it starts too soon.

[Insomniac]

shraeye, it'll probably be pretty soon. That's already 3 people who've said they're in, you'd be 4 and 7 is the limit.

8 is the limit with cities

But that's for team play, isn't it?

Haven't read the team rules or 8 player rules sections of the rulebook (don't even know if they're the same section) I just know the box says 8 (I only read the parts that were relevant to me firing up a 2 player game ie the new rules.

[Tables]

Ah, yes, you're right that you can do 8. I'd be equally fine with that, but if anything I was hoping to go smaller rather than larger this time.

Anyway I count... 5 in so far. Okay.

[eHalcyon]

I'd be against having 8 players unless we are playing the team variant.

[eHalcyon]

From here:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/913345/this-is-the-great-wall-and-more


The new wonders are:

The Great Wall of China
Base resource: cloth

Wonder stages can be built in any order!

Side A:
1: $8 (cost: 2 wood)
2: any one scientific symbol (cost: paper, glass, clay)
3: 2 shields (cost: 3 stone)
4: build a card from the discard for free (cost: 3 ore)

Side B:
(not certain about the costs; leaked images are blurry)
1: $8, neighbours get $2 (cost: 1 paper, 1 wood?)
2: Mask symbol from cities, i.e. copy a neighbour's Science symbol (cost: 1 ore, 2 clay?)
3: Diplomacy token, other players lose $2 (cost: 2 wood, paper?)
4: "Black Market", produces any 1 resource that the player doesn't already produce (cost: 2 stone?)


Abu Simbel
Base resource: paper

This wonder lets you entomb one of your played leaders for VP equal to 2 times its price.  You lose the leader's benefits though.

Side A:
1: 3VP (cost: stone, clay)
2: 5VP (cost: wood, ore)
3: entomb a leader (cost: 2 stone, glass, cloth)

Side B:
(the symbol on these two stages is missing the Leader card that is on the symbol in side A stage 3, so it probably works slightly different)
1: entomb? (cost: 1 cloth, 2 clay)
2: entomb? (cost: 1 glass, 2 wood)

Stonehenge
Base resource: Wood

This wonder gives you VP based on how much Stone you produce.  It isn't clear whether it only works with brown cards or if it counts Stone produced by yellow cards or leaders as well.

Side A:
1: 3VP (cost: ore, clay)
2: 5VP (cost: paper, 2 clay)
3: 2VP per stone (cost: cloth, 3 wood)

Side B:
1: $1 and 1VP per stone (cost: 3 ore)
2: 1VP per card* in neighbouring cities (cost: 3 clay, 1 paper)

* it is not clear what cards it looks for.  The image is white, but it is missing the Leaders logo.  Speculation is that it uses the colour of the card that you use to build the wonder (since the card image goes off the bottom of the board).  Alternatively, it might let the player choose the colour.


Mannekin Pis (remake):
Base resource: +$4

Side A:
1: copy first stage wonder to the left (cost: ?)
2: copy second stage wonder to the right (cost: ?)
3: copy last stage wonder to the left (cost: ?)

Note that this is different from the original Mannekin Pis in that the costs are not set (speculation is that it copies the costs too) and you don't get a choice of neighbour for stage 3.

Side B:
presumably similar to the existing Mannekin Pis side B?  Personal speculation though, maybe it will be like Side A but with the arrows reversed.  






Great Wall A is definitely playable now.  Great Wall B probably, though I'm not sure I have the costs correct for the stages.  Abu Simbel A is playable.  Stonehenge A is playable too, though we'd have to make an assumption about how the Stone counting works exactly.  Mannekin Pis A is playable, though we could just stick with the original promo.

I think it would be really fun to try out the Great Wall.

[Insomniac]

[mith]

I'd rather not add in the Wonder Pack until all the rules/costs are known.

[eHalcyon]

I'd rather not add in the Wonder Pack until all the rules/costs are known.

I respect that.  Request withdrawn.

Edit: but all the rules and costs ARE known for Great Wall A.

[Davio]

/in, but willing to /out to let new players have a chance.

[Tables]

I'm in agreement with mith - I'd love to add them, but until there's clean information, I'd rather not. Besides, is 12 wonders too few for you eHalc ?

[eHalcyon]

Must have more!

Can I make a case for not including the current Mannekin Pis promo, since for some reason it warranted a remake in the upcoming Wonder pack?

[Davio]

Must have more!

Can I make a case for not including the current Mannekin Pis promo, since for some reason it warranted a remake in the upcoming Wonder pack?

Well, the B side for the promo is pretty funny since it meant getting a beer from the winner. Maybe that's the only thing they removed.

[eHalcyon]

Must have more!

Can I make a case for not including the current Mannekin Pis promo, since for some reason it warranted a remake in the upcoming Wonder pack?

Well, the B side for the promo is pretty funny since it meant getting a beer from the winner. Maybe that's the only thing they removed.

No, the new Mannekin Pis has been partially revealed.  I posted it above!  They changed the costs of the wonders to question marks, probably meaning that it copies costs as well as effects.  And the third stage no longer lets you choose which neighbour to copy.

[Kuildeous]

I'll give this a shot.

And I'm fine with all expansions. I need to read up on Cities.

/in

[Tables]

Okay, that's 7, so I start probably this evening. Might not be until tomorrow, lots of extra setup to do.

Judging by the comments most people are pretty neutral on promos, so I'll make things a little easier and go for just the two expansions.

[Davio]

Okay, that's 7, so I start probably this evening. Might not be until tomorrow, lots of extra setup to do.

Judging by the comments most people are pretty neutral on promos, so I'll make things a little easier and go for just the two expansions.

Okay, if before that time anyone wants in who didn't make it into the first game, he/she can take my place.

[Tables]

Probably gonna not do anything until tomorrow now, not feeling 100%.

[Davio]

Probably gonna not do anything until tomorrow now, not feeling 100%.

Okay, no worries, get well soon!

[Tables]

Yeah, better now, was just tired. Setting up now (ish)

[Tables]

Okay, I have everything from Leader's ready. Once I've put Cities in as well, I'll make the spreadsheet available, in case anyone else wants to run a game later.

[Tables]

Okay, game starting imminently. Here's a link to the base spreadsheet for 7 Wonders + both expansions.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApPT0N9WtHcKdDBjaW5mRXFfV1ZHRnljTktRQzUwV3c#gid=15

[Tables]

Here are the Wonder distributions. I randomized until nobody was sitting next to both the same people as last time and nobody had the same wonder, just to keep things a little more interesting. This is both the player order and wonder distributions.

I'll post again when I've put everything in the first post, but if you know what side you want to play, you can PM me whenever.

Kuildeous - Rhodes
eHalcyon - Gizah
Galzria - Babylon
mith - Petra
Qvist - Halikarnassos
Davio - Byzantium
Insomniac - Rome

[Insomniac]

Awwwww ya! I drew Rome.

Choice noted & hidden until game starts - Tables

[Qvist]

I guess side B is more interesting, but it seems harder to play. Choice noted and hidden until game starts - Tables
Now I only have to read the expansion rules.

[Tables]

All the information is up.

The game is officially starting. Everyone, choose which side of your wonder you want to play and PM it to me.

[Galzria]

Aww shucks. I'm a sucker for the Hanging Garden. One of my favorite Age-A Wonders (about even with the Pyramids)...

Oh wait! Wrong game!

Hey, about Babylon B, Stage 2: After it's built do I get to play the 7th card for all remaining Ages, or only the Age that it's built (I doubt I'll see it built Age-I, but perhaps Age-II and Age-III)?

[Tables]

Every age. This includes, if you build that wonder stage as your 6th card, you may immediately play your 7th card instead of discarding it (or if you do discard it you get 3 coins).

Also those of you that posted your choices publicly, I've noted them down and deleted them, to avoid giving away extra information.

[eHalcyon]

Giza is boring! :-P

[Davio]

This will be interesting, I've never actually played with Cities (although I own the expansion) so I'm totally out of my comfort zone.
And then I get a new Cities Wonder to boot!

This will be quite the learning experience.

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Chooses side B of Rhodes
eHalcyon - Chooses side B of Gizah
Galzria - Chooses side B of Babylon
mith - Chooses side B of Petra
Qvist - Chooses side B of Halikarnassos
Davio - Chooses side A of Byzantium
Insomniac - Chooses side B of Rome

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 7th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.


Leaders are being shuffled and will be dealt out shortly.

The leader draft works a lot like normal card play, except you don't reveal the cards, and so you'll just be drafting a hand of cards to use later.

[Kuildeous]

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.

Whoa, wait. I don't remember that.

So, Davio and I can elect leaders for one less gold thanks to Insomniac?

[Insomniac]

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.

Whoa, wait. I don't remember that.

So, Davio and I can elect leaders for one less gold thanks to Insomniac?

Yes, you're welcome.

[Tables]

That's right.

Also just noticed I copied the column title of 'copypaste'  

[Davio]

That's pretty cool, but I'd rather have a brown resource.

I took the A side, because this game I'm going to be like that dog at the keyboard. :p

[Tables]

Okay just about to send leaders out.

Here's how I propose we do it. When you have your hand, make your choice, PM that to me, and when you see the person on your right (below) has made as many choices as you, forward your remaining leaders to them. In both cases, update the token below.

I'll be checking periodically and updating when I see there's information I can give out. It'll probably be a little chaotic - some people might have all 4 leaders drafted before others have 2 or 3, but as long as people are careful about sending information on that won't matter.

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.

[Tables]

Everyone should have their hand.

[Insomniac]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Tables]

I've realised the instruction I included on the bottom of your PM was stupid. Don't forward until they've picked. Yeah.

[eHalcyon]

Above is to the left, below is to the right, yes?  So Galzria is to my right?  Leaders pass to the right?

[Tables]

Yes, yes and yes.

[mith]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Kuildeous]

For purposes of the forum game, would it be prudent to refer to all neighbors as above and below? That way, we don't have to remember which direction corresponds where.

[Galzria]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[eHalcyon]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
mith - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[eHalcyon]

I made a QT for myself already!

[Tables]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[mith]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Galzria]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[eHalcyon]

How do you have 2 picked already, Galz?  Tables forwarded them to you?

Kuildeous! *fist shaking*

[Kuildeous]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Kuildeous]

How do you have 2 picked already, Galz?  Tables forwarded them to you?

Kuildeous! *fist shaking*

Well, I was planning on keeping them all to myself, but you had to go and ruin that plan.

[Davio]

Will pick one tomorrow, need some time to go over them. Night time here for me.

[eHalcyon]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Galzria - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

[Tables]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Galzria - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
mith - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[eHalcyon]

I bet the Leader I want most is unavailable or already chosen.

[Kuildeous]

I bet the Leader I want most is unavailable or already chosen.

I have it. I'm actually going to use to pick the gunk from between my toes.

[Galzria]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader!

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Galzria - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Galzria]

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

Blame Tables for ninja-editing into my post as Kuild posted his updated off my original.

[Tables]

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

Blame Tables for ninja-editing into my post as Kuild posted his updated off my original.

Looks like it yeah .

[Galzria]

Looks like the quotes branched off between Kuild and Galz.  I hope I successfully merged them.

Blame Tables for ninja-editing into my post as Kuild posted his updated off my original.

Looks like it yeah .

#66 should be up-to-date however.

[eHalcyon]

Kuild, pick your second so I can pick my third and bemoan my terrible luck!

[Galzria]

Done!

....

<Insert "That's what she said YOU said" joke here>

....

Damn, now I gotta wait! I'm so impatient. Hey Kuildeous, go take your turn on BGO!

[Insomniac]

Done!

....

<Insert "That's what she said YOU said" joke here>

....

Damn, now I gotta wait! I'm so impatient. Hey Kuildeous, go take your turn on BGO!

BGO?

[Tables]

Some various rule points and PBF expediation notes.

1) There are three black/city cards (one per age) whose effect is copying a science symbol from a neighbouring cities green cards (I'll call them mask cards from now on). These can only choose a specific green card in a specific neighbour's city once, if you have two or more mask cards. So e.g. you could copy a Gear from a Workshop on your left neighbour AND one from a Workshop on your right neighbour, but you couldn't copy a single Workshop twice (e.g. if it was the only green card either of your neighbours built).

2) A more important point. Unless you request otherwise or cannot afford it, I will always assume you pay debt by discarding coins. The main issue here is that most people will probably have their next hand by the time you'd need to decide otherwise, and it could seriously affect your choice seeing that.

I realise Halikarnassos (and now Rome) has essentially had the same issue, when it builds a wonder stage. With Halikarnassos I don't think it makes much difference, as the card he plays is free, but maybe with Rome it could affect things. We could fix this in two ways. 1) I always send these wonders their hands when they've reached the point that they can build their wonder stages. Or 2) We just don't care, those wonders become slightly stronger, but certainly not enough to be overpowered in my opinion.

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Qvist]

Kuildeous - Chooses side B of Rhodes
eHalcyon - Chooses side B of Gizah
Galzria - Chooses side B of Babylon
mith - Chooses side B of Petra
Qvist - Chooses side B of Halikarnassos
Davio - Chooses side A of Byzantium
Insomniac - Chooses side B of Rome

Davio, you're such an outsider. Boo!

[Qvist]

Ok, I'm reading the expansion rules now. I created a QT. PM me if you want the link

[eHalcyon]

Ok, I'm reading the expansion rules now. I created a QT. PM me if you want the link

I'll have the link.

[Tables]

Speaking of Quick Topics, if you have made one could you send me the link (even if you've already done so), preferably with an easy to find title (I get SO MANY PM with all the games I'm playing/modding. I wouldn't be surprised if my inbox is the most active on the forum (well... maybe not quite...))

[mith]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[eHalcyon]

Ok, I'm reading the expansion rules now. I created a QT. PM me if you want the link

Basic summaries of major changes as I remember them (I own the sets but haven't played with them before):

Leaders
- everyone starts with $6 now!
- draft 4 leaders at the start of the game, passing to the right (no choice for the fourth one)
- at the start of each age, you may recruit a leader by paying its cost (always in coins)

Cities
- City cards (black) get added to each age!
- City cards are randomly chosen from a set, much like Guilds
- City cards usually have a coin cost and tend to be extra powerful (e.g. a 5 shield card in Age III)
- There are now cards that will attack others by making them lose money or incur debt tokens (worth negative VP)
- There are cards that grant you Diplomacy, which exempts you from military conflict (your neighbours fight each other instead)
- There are Mask icons that let you copy a scientific symbol from a neighbour

[mith]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Tables]

I might have just told mith he's next to Rome in PMs... I feel extra stupid today .

[mith]

If you want to just give me a discount for being awesome, I wouldn't turn it down.

[Tables]

Okay, I'll give every awesome player a discount.

...

Oh, only I got a discount? Awesome!

(It's funny because now you all hate me, and I can give you ALL cards you dislike )

[eHalcyon]

Okay, I'll give every awesome player a discount.

...

Oh, only I got a discount? Awesome!

(It's funny because now you all hate me, and I can give you ALL cards you dislike )

I feel like you've already been doing that.

[Qvist]

Ok, I'm reading the expansion rules now. I created a QT. PM me if you want the link

I'll have the link.

  You're playing. You can't have the link.

[Tables]

Okay, I'll give every awesome player a discount.

...

Oh, only I got a discount? Awesome!

(It's funny because now you all hate me, and I can give you ALL cards you dislike )

I feel like you've already been doing that.

Fun experiment: Don't shuffle the age cards, just shove them in as they are. Observe the resulting chaos.

I have three rounds to collect results on this, as well.

[Tables]

It's at this point I worry that I'm turning into Ozle. That can't be a good thing. Must be something to do with being British.

[Galzria]

Done!

....

<Insert "That's what she said YOU said" joke here>

....

Damn, now I gotta wait! I'm so impatient. Hey Kuildeous, go take your turn on BGO!

BGO?

Sorry, it's the new Avatar. I just don't notice when you say things anymore.

Board Gaming Online - Where we play *most* of our games of Through The Ages (although a good PBF never goes amis!)

[eHalcyon]

It's at this point I worry that I'm turning into Ozle. That can't be a good thing. Must be something to do with being British.

You're British too?  I've been giving your posts the wrong accent!

[Qvist]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Tables]

It's at this point I worry that I'm turning into Ozle. That can't be a good thing. Must be something to do with being British.

You're British too?  I've been giving your posts the wrong accent!

I'm worried about the accents my posts had been getting and what I've just changed that to...

[Tables]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 2 received. 1 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Qvist]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

You only can play 3 Leaders right?

[Tables]

Correct. You'll draft 4, and play 3.

[eHalcyon]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader not played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

You only can play 3 Leaders right?

Unless you are Rome.  Also Catan, I think.  You can choose to recruit one at the start of each Age.

[Tables]

Yeah. So the normal flow of game goes:

Choose wonder side
Age I Card 1
...
Age I Card 6
Resolve conflict
Age II Card 1
...
Age II Card 6
Resolve conflict
Age III Card 1
...
Age III Card 6
Resolve conflict
Final scoring.

Now with Leaders and cities it's:
Choose wonder side
Leader Draft
Age I Leader
Age I Card 1
...
Age I Card 7
Resolve conflict
Age II Leader
Age II Card 1
...
Age II Card 7
Resolve conflict
Age III Leader
Age III Card 1
...
Age III Card 7
Resolve conflict
Final scoring.

The notable additions being leaders once per age and an extra card play once per age.

[Qvist]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 0 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Tables]

Just got to wait for Davio and everything to cascade down from there now .

[eHalcyon]

I have to say, having the full list of cards available is really nice.  I played a couple of IRL games of 7 Wonders today and I royally screwed up the second one.  I was building all Science and I got a hand where the best choices were Quarry or Sawmill.  I couldn't remember what things cost and chose the wood... then the next hand had a Library.  I decided I needed it and it cost me $4.  I also made a second major mistake when I thought I couldn't afford an Academy.  I saw "Compass, chains from School" so I only checked the Compass cards I already had.  So terrible!  Those two mistakes cost me the game.

/venting

[Davio]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 2 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.

[Ozle]

It's at this point I worry that I'm turning into Ozle. That can't be a good thing. Must be something to do with being British.

*ahem*

[Insomniac]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Davio - Hand 1 received. 1 picked.
Insomniac - Hand 2 received. 2 picked.

[Tables]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 3 received. 2 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Davio - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Insomniac - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.

[Kuildeous]

Update whenever you pick a leader or forward your hand on. Only forward the hand on when the person below you has picked their next leader! When you have received your 4th leader, please select your first leader play.

Kuildeous: Hand 3 received. 3 picked.
eHalcyon - Hand 4 received. 3 picked.
Galzria - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
mith - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Qvist - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Davio - Hand 4 received. 4 picked. First leader played.
Insomniac - Hand 3 received. 2 picked.

[Tables]

Kuildeous, I don't have your third pick.

[eHalcyon]

Kuildeous, I don't have your third pick.

He sent me my last one though.  If you check my QT, you could PoE to figure out what he took.

[Kuildeous]

Kuildeous, I don't have your third pick.

It's not my fault that you don't hack into Insomniac's account to read the message I sent him when I automatically just replied to whoever sent me cards and told him my game plan.

But fine, since you're too lazy to do that simple task, I sent you a separate message.

[Tables]

Oh dear...

[eHalcyon]

Kuildeous, I don't have your third pick.

It's not my fault that you don't hack into Insomniac's account to read the message I sent him when I automatically just replied to whoever sent me cards and told him my game plan.

But fine, since you're too lazy to do that simple task, I sent you a separate message.

Mind filling me in too?  Be a good neighbour and all...

[Tables]

Bump. If anyone thinks they need me to PM a hand they don't have please say so.

[Davio]

It's not my turn is it?

Maybe edit the title with whoever is yet to act? May make for a long title, but I like it.

[Tables]

Right now, Insomniac is the hold up. He might be V/LA.

[Davio]

Right now, Insomniac is the hold up. He might be V/LA.

Maybe he didn't expect me to do all my picks in one go.

[Kuildeous]

I figured that whatever cards were given to me were just suggestions. I picked the cards from the master list. I was pretty happy with those choices.

[Insomniac]

I'm not the hold up. I haven't received hand 3

[Insomniac]

NM I just wasn't able to see it as I recieved pms immediately after it so i overlooked it on my phone screen.

Picked Leader 3 now (and yes I was VLA but was trying to keep up on phone)

[Tables]

Ah well it's all worked out now.

Everyone has their hand of 4 leaders. Kuildeous has just been sent his final 4, and so he's the last one to pick before we start.

[Tables]

Everyone has chosen their first leader.

As a note, as leaders are white and white text is almost illegible, I'm instead going to use italicized black for leaders. Your wonder resource is also in italics.

As there are seven of you and one of me, and I'm less likely to pay attention to any bonuses you should be getting, please note if/when a Leader should be giving you some kind of bonus. This applies especially to things like getting money whenever you do a thing, or using a leader like Bilkis to pay for something.

Finally and less importantly I'm going to be a little more structured with card ordering in each city this time:
Raw materials
Manufactured goods
Leaders
Civilian structures
Scientific structures
Economic structures
Cities structures
Guilds
Military buildings
Military tokens

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins. (pays 1 coin)
eHalcyon - Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource. Cost: 4 Coins. (Pays 4 coins)
Galzria - Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 3 coins)
mith - Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Qvist - Varro: 1 VP per yellow card. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 3 coins)
Davio - Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins. (Pays 1 coin)
Insomniac - Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 2 Coins. (Pays 0 coins)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 7th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

Age I cards are being shuffled and distributed now.

[Tables]

There's been a slight confusion over how leaders work, and Kuildeous sent me a PM while I was making the above post, long story short, he played the wrong leader, that's been fixed now.

Just to clarify how leaders work (especially for those of you who've been playing Through the Ages, as it seems you're the ones getting most confused ): Once a leader is played, they work basically the same way as any other card: They stay in play and give you their effect for the rest of the game, they score at the end of the age etc. The only real differences are when you play then (Leader recruitment phase or when a Wonder stage tells you to) and the start game Leader draft.

[Galzria]

Don't worry K, I made the exact same mistake. I just already got it clarified with Tables.

[Tables]

Yup, you two and your crazy 'Leaders only last one age' and 'Leaders are replaced after playing a new one' ideas. What kind of game would have rules like that‽

[Tables]

Oh wait I was supposed to be making an update post. Oops.

Everyone now has their first hand. In age I, you pass LEFT. Your left neighbour is the one above you in the following list (Insomniac is left of Kuildeous).

Just as a sanity reminder, because we're using cities, you should have EIGHT cards. I'm pretty sure everyone has the right number though, but let me know if I derped.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

Still think it would be a good idea to format wonder resources as follows:

Wonder Resource: Produce Stone

to make it clear that the wonder resource is not a brown/grey card.

[mith]

(Also think it would be a good idea to give me better cards.)

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

(Also think it would be a good idea to give me better cards.)

Sorry to tell you, but don't expect them from me!

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

(Also think it would be a good idea to give me better cards.)

Sorry to tell you, but don't expect them from me!

Which won't happen anyway, since I pass up!

Hey eHal, want a hand of terrible cards? 'Cause you're about to get some!

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

(Also think it would be a good idea to give me better cards.)

Sorry to tell you, but don't expect them from me!

Which won't happen anyway, since I pass up!

Hey eHal, want a hand of terrible cards? 'Cause you're about to get some!

Send it on, Galz.

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

Tough choice for me. 8 cards don't make it easier than 7 cards.

[Tables]

Still think it would be a good idea to format wonder resources as follows:

Wonder Resource: Produce Stone

to make it clear that the wonder resource is not a brown/grey card.

Done. Will be like that in future updates.

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
eHalcyon - Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Galzria - Builds Wonder stage 1 (Imhotep provides cloth)
mith - Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.. (Qvist and Galzria get 1 coin)
Qvist - Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Davio - Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Insomniac - Mine: Produce Ore/Stone. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 7th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

Give me my hand 3, Galz!

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Insomniac]

Woop woop!

[Galzria]

Caaaards! I need more caaaards!

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE, SENT
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[eHalcyon]

Now we need Tables to update... Or we could wait for everyone to send and then reveal our choices?

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE, SENT
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[mith]

FWIW, I've requested Qvist not send me my hand - I'd rather get it from Tables when the full update is actually up. Everyone revealing their choices before Tables updates is just confusing anyway.

[Davio]

FWIW, I've requested Qvist not send me my hand - I'd rather get it from Tables when the full update is actually up. Everyone revealing their choices before Tables updates is just confusing anyway.

Well, I don't (want to) reveal my choices before the update, but I do like receiving my hand early so I can do some theory crafting.

[mith]

I know... I'm just preempting any "now Qvist just needs to send mith his hand and we can all reveal our choices!!1".

[Tables]

I'm here now! Be patient guys!

Kuildeous - Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
eHalcyon - Tavern: 5 Coins. (Gains 5 coins)
Galzria - Glassworks: Produce Glass.
mith - Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood. (Pays 2 coins to Qvist for wood)
Qvist - Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Davio - Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.. Cost: 2 Coins. (Pays 2 coins. Diocletian provides 2 coins)
Insomniac - Clay Pool: Produce Brick.

(Fun little thing: I somehow got seriously confused with the Excavation Qvist played, first putting it on Davio's board, then on Galzria's before finally putting it in the right place. I don't even know how I managed to derp that much).

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource

Tavern: 5 Coins


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 7th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.

Stockade: 1 Shield


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[mith]

(And title needs updating.)

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

<tabletalk>That was a tough choice.  I hope it wasn't the wrong one.  Murphy's Law says it will be though!  </tabletalk>

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Galzria]

Blame mith for the cards that you're getting eHal.

[eHalcyon]

<tabletalk>Curse you, Murphy!</tabletalk>

[mith]

Blame mith Tables for the cards that you're getting eHal.

FTFY

[Tables]

Blame mith Tables Ozle for the cards that you're getting eHal.

FTFY

I'm absolving myself of any wrongdoings.

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

Another tough choice for me too.

[Insomniac]

Hurray! Update time!

[Tables]

Kuildeous - East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum. (2 Coins from Xenophon)
eHalcyon - West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Galzria - Build wonder stage 2 (Pays 2 coins to eHalcyon for Wood, Imhotep removes a Wood)
mith - Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Qvist - Tavern: 5 Coins.
Davio - Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin. Diocletian provides 2 coins)
Insomniac - Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card

Tavern: 5 Coins


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

I think everyone has their turn 4 hand.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

 

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

 

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Kuild, Trading buddies!

Tables -- you forgot to move $2 from Galz to me.

[eHalcyon]

 

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

Will you give me some good news now, Galz?

[Galzria]

Maaaybe I will, maaaybe I won't!

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

I just noticed another mistake on the board.  Aside from the coin thing, Galzria's tableau shows only 1 Wonder Stage built when he built his second one with that hand.

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

I already want my sixth hand. 

ALSO, I am writing soooo many thoughts.  Any spectators out there?  I think my QT is interesting.

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Currently there are no spectators .

Kuildeous - Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
eHalcyon - Press: Produce Payrus.
Galzria - Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass.
mith - East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Qvist - Press: Produce Payrus.
Davio - Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right. Cost: 1 Coin. (Cost 1 coin, Diocletian provides 2 coins)
Insomniac - Loom: Produce Cloth.


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less

Workshop: Gear


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card

Tavern: 5 Coins


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

K, edit me into your post. Davio skipped me. ;-;

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

K, edit me into your post. Davio skipped me. ;-;

You're done when I say you're done!

Or, when Davio issues a correction, whichever comes first.

[Davio]

Hehe, well I didn't get the "another reply was posted" message which was weird as I just quoted Qvist.

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

Title needs updating again.

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Galzria]

(In the voice of Costello):

Heeeeey Taaaaableeees!

[eHalcyon]

(In the voice of Costello):

Heeeeey Taaaaableeees!

[Tables]

Sorry, Wednesday is my gaming day. Was interesting, got to play Byzantium for the first time and came last (I chalk it up mostly to inexperience with the Wonder), then played Babylon A (generally considered the weakest wonder side of every wonder in my group) and won convincingly. Both were 6-7 player games.

Kuildeous - West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum. (Xenophon provides 2 coins)
eHalcyon - Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Galzria - Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus. (Pays eHalcyon 2 coins for Papyrus)
mith - Tavern: 5 Coins. (Gains 5 coins)
Qvist - Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.
Davio - Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.
Insomniac - Theater: 2 VPs. Chain to: Statue.

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 0
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card

Baths: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

Theater: 2 VPs

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

I was going to write some more table talk here but it probably reveals just a little bit of game state and what I know of hand contents.  So I won't.

[Insomniac]

<tabletalk> Man I like a nice mahogany table, you know the type the round fair size table that stings your nostrils with it's beautiful scent</tabletalk>

[Tables]

<tabletalk>Hi guys, Tables here.</tabletalk>

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood. (Pays 1 coin to eHalcyon for wood)
eHalcyon - Builds Wonder stage 1
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins
mith - Gates of the City: 4 VPs. Cost: 1 Coin, Wood. (Pays 1 coin to bank, 1 coin to Qvist)
Qvist - Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Davio - Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore.
Insomniac - Builds Wonder stage 1 (Draws 4 leaders, gets 5 coins)

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card

Baths: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right

Barracks: 1 Shield


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less

Theater: 2 VPs

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Please don't do leaders just yet. I mean it's possible, but it'll get too confusing for me to track, and there's lots of things that could affect it (e.g. cards neighbours build, debt cards etc.)

[Insomniac]

Please don't do leaders just yet. I mean it's possible, but it'll get too confusing for me to track, and there's lots of things that could affect it (e.g. cards neighbours build, debt cards etc.)

Technically since leaders only cost coin probably only debt can affect it, but fair enough.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Qvist]

Tables, how many cards are in the discard pile?

[Galzria]

Anybody wanna give me a quick rundown on how debt works?

[Insomniac]

Anybody wanna give me a quick rundown on how debt works?

When someone forces debt on people let's say debt 3.

Each player incurring debt 3 has to pay 3. However for EACH coin they can choose to take a debt token which is -1vp.

So let's say I have 2 coins, and have to pay 3. I have 3 options
Take 3 Debt.
Pay 1 Coin, Take 2 Debt.
Pay 2 Coins, Take 1 Debt.

Make sense?

[Tables]

Before this turn, one discarded by Galz last turn. Then at least 6 more will be added this turn (everyone but Galz must discard one).

Ins: It's not just debt, it's also if a certain neighbour does a thing you might want a different leader (e.g. Ceaser if they do/don't build military).

Galz: When a card forces other players to lose money, each other player (than the one playing the card) discards the amount shown on the card. If they cannot/choose not to play the maximum amount, they take 1 debt token per coin they didn't pay. Each debt is -1 VP at the end of the game and can never be repaid (think of it as being the negative reputation of going into debt persisting).
By default unless you say otherwise, I assume you will be paying the maximum amount for any debt cards.

[eHalcyon]

Hey, I should have $10 now Tables!  And Kuild should have $8!  /watchin my moneys

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Insomniac]

Reminder guys even though the quote says to DON'T Forward your hand on.

[Kuildeous]

I forwarded mine to Galzria. That's okay, right?

[eHalcyon]

I forwarded mine to Galzria. That's okay, right?

That should be OK.  The one that matters is Qvist.




The table talk I was referring to earlier -- I was going to say that I knew what mith would build and that I was envious, and also that I was surprised it made it so far around the table.

[Qvist]

Sent my order already a while ago and forgot to do the quote here, sorry.
And thanks Tables for the clarification.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Oh yeah, I'm done as well, Tables has my choices (oh and what choices they were...)

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Builds Wonder stage 1 (Pays eHalcyon 1 coin for stone, pays Insomniac 1 coin for stone)
eHalcyon - Builds Wonder stage 2 (Pays 1 coin to get stone from Bilkis)
Galzria - Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple. . Then discard card for 3 coins.
mith - Discard card for 3 coins
Qvist - Discard card for 3 coins
Davio - Builds Wonder stage 1 (Pays 1 coin to Qvist)
Insomniac - Build Wonder stage 2. Play Vitruvius. (Pays 0 for Vitruvius)

Age ends, military is resolved.

Kuildeous beats eHalcyon 2-0
eHalcyon ties with Galzria 0-0
Galzria loses to mith 0-2
mith beats Qvist 2-0
Qvist loses to Davio 0-1
Davio beats Insomniac 1-0
Insomniac loses to Kuildeous 0-2

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 1: 5 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 15
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card

Baths: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.

Theater: 2 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[eHalcyon]

For a second I thought you'd skipped the rest of us for leaders.

[Insomniac]

For a second I thought you'd skipped the rest of us for leaders.

Yea when rome is in play only rome gets to have more than 1 leader 

[eHalcyon]

Tables, I should be at $10 still!

[Insomniac]

Kuildeous and I need our Wonder Stages built updated!

[mith]

And I should be getting 4 coins from Nero.

[Tables]

Sorry, yes. Leader effects, easy to miss and there becomes more and more as we go. mith has his +4 coins, eHalc loses his 1.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

And it's leaders phase.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

I think there are mistakes in the coin totals.  I'm checking over the old tableaus now...



Kuild
$6.  Pay $1 for Xenophon.
$5.  Gain $2 from Xenophon for East Trading Post.
$7.  Gain $2 from Xenophone West Trading Post.
$9.  Pay $1 to eHalcyon for Wood. (**payment not displayed here)
$8.  Pay $1 to eHalcyon and $1 to Insomniac for Stone.
$6.

Final coin total is $3 too much.  I think you missed payments from two hands here.

eHalc
$6.  Pay $4 for Bilkis.
$2.  Pay $1 for Tree Farm.
$1.  Gain $5 from Tavern.
$6.  Gain $2 from Galz.  (**payment not displayed here)
$8.  Pay $1 for Timber Yard.  Gain $2 from Galz.
$9.  Gain $1 from Kuild.  (**payment not displayed here)
$10. Pay $1 to Bilkis for stone.  Gain $1 from Kuildeous.
$10.

Final coin total is $1 too much.

Galz
$6.  Pay $3 for Imhotep.
$3.  Gain $1 from Gambling Den.
$4.  Pay $2 to eHalcyon for Wood.  (**payment not displayed here).
$2.  Pay $2 to eHalcyon for Papyrus.
$0.  Discard for $3.
$3.  Discard for $3.
$6.

mith
$6.  Pay $1 for Nero.
$5.  Gains $6 from Gambling Den.
$11. Pay $2 to Qvist for Wood.
$9.  Gain $5 from Tavern.
$14.  Pay $1 to bank and $1 to Qvist for Wood.
$12.  Discard for $3.
$15.  Gain $4 from Nero.
$19.

Qvist
$6.  Pay $3 for Varro.
$3.  Pay $1 for Forest Cave and gain $1 from Gambling Den.
$3.  Gain $2 from mith.  Pay $1 for Excavation.
$4.  Gain $5 from Tavern.
$9.  Gain $1 from mith.
$10.  Discard for $3.  Gain $1 from Davio.
$14.

Davio
$6.  Pay $1 for Diocletian.
$5.  Pay $1 for Clay Pit.
$4.  Pay $2 for Secret Warehouse.  Gain $2 from Diocletian.
$4.  Pay $1 for Clandestine Dock West.  Gain $2 from Diocletian.
$5.  Pay $1 for Clandestine Dock East.  Gain $2 from Diocletian.
$6.  Pay $1 to Qvist for either Brick or Ore.
$5.
 
Ins
$6.  Pay $1 for Mine. (**payment not displayed here)
$5.  Gain $5 from Wonder stage 1. (**coin total still $1 too high here)
$10. Gain $1 from Kuildeous.
$11.

Final coin total is $1 too much.




(Edited to remove commentary that was meant to go to my QT, and also to add mith's $4 for Nero.)

[eHalcyon]

The above does not factor in mith's gain from Nero.

Oh, and it says I only have 1 Wonder stage built (though both are listed).

[Tables]

Ugh. Fixed them. I try and get these things right, but it's easy to overlook something, or think I've done something that I haven't.

[Insomniac]

Mine was correct at 12. I've spent 0 coins. Gained 5 from wonder stage 1, and K payed me 1 in the final round.

EDIT: NM Forgot about Mine

[eHalcyon]

Ugh. Fixed them. I try and get these things right, but it's easy to overlook something, or think I've done something that I haven't.

Only fixed in your spreadsheet, I suppose?

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

You sent your leader hand on Davio? What a nice guy

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

You sent your leader hand on Davio? What a nice guy

Send to self, of course.

[Galzria]

TablesTablesTablesTablesTables!

[Galzria]

TablesTablesTablesTablesTables!

I want my fresh new hand. New cards, untainted by the eyes of all my evil neighbors! Gimme gimme!

[mith]

TablesTablesTablesTablesTables!

I want my fresh new hand. New cards, untainted by the eyes of all my evil neighbors! Gimme gimme!

~rubs eyeballs on all your good cards, so you will have no choice but to send them to me~

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice.
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE

You sent your leader hand on Davio? What a nice guy

Not really.  I just hoped my neighbor would do it though.

[Tables]

Here come mistakes in coin totals again! Are you ready‽

Kuildeous - Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 2 coins)
eHalcyon - Sappo: 2 VPs. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Galzria - Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 3 coins)
mith - Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.. Cost: 2 Coins. (Pays 2 coins)
Qvist - Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.. Cost: 4 Coins. (Pays 4 coins)
Davio - Zenobia: 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins. (Pays 1 coin)
Insomniac - Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins. Cost: 2 Coins. (Pays 0 coins)

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 1: 5 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

Important reminder: Age II, so hands now go right (down)

Hands are being distributed now.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[eHalcyon]

I am concerned.  I hope people around the table are paying attention...

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

I am concerned.  I hope people around the table are paying attention...

Well then, you're going to hate the pickle I’m putting you in.

[eHalcyon]

I am concerned.  I hope people around the table are paying attention...

Well then, you're going to hate the pickle I’m putting you in.

I love pickles!

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

Done.

Let me see this pickle now.

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

UGH. That was not an easy decision. Paper = Papyrus, right? Buuuh. I don't like my position.

[Kuildeous]

Buuuh. I don't like my position.

There absolutely needs to be a Baba Yaga's Hut wonder that lets you move around the table.

[eHalcyon]

@Galz, you will find your next hand hilarious.  I won't tell you why, but I will send it in a bit; doing a couple other things first.
@Kuild, that's not THAT big of a pickle.  Pretty sure I know what I will do.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Tables]

Buuuh. I don't like my position.

There absolutely needs to be a Baba Yaga's Hut wonder that lets you move around the table.

I've seen a fan wonder which has a nomad ability, which is basically, pick up your stuff and move somewhere else. Pretty fun for a PBF (I would have to do all of moving a tab and cut/pasting some cards), pretty unfun for a F2F game.

[eHalcyon]

Buuuh. I don't like my position.

There absolutely needs to be a Baba Yaga's Hut wonder that lets you move around the table.

I've seen a fan wonder which has a nomad ability, which is basically, pick up your stuff and move somewhere else. Pretty fun for a PBF (I would have to do all of moving a tab and cut/pasting some cards), pretty unfun for a F2F game.

I looked through that fan expansion pack!  The nomad one was one of my favourites.  I also liked the Tower of Babel, but mostly for the graphical decision of turning the board vertical and building wonder stages up instead of sideways.  I can't remember what other ones I really liked.  Lots of them seemed unbalanced though.

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

The first hand is always really difficult.

[mith]

I find that it's the second hand that's really difficult, after it reveals that you made the wrong choice in the first hand.

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Quarry: Produce two Stone. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
eHalcyon - Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Galzria - Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick. (Pays 2 coin to eHalcyon for brick)
mith - Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick. (Chained from Trading Post)
Qvist - Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths. Cost: 3 Stone. (Chained from Baths)
Davio - Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood. (Chained from Marketplace)
Insomniac - Press: Produce Payrus.

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 1: 5 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


I don't have time for a hand update right now, so could you please send your previous hand on and/or beg your neighbour, as I'll likely be AWOL for most of the weekend.

[Kuildeous]

I'll be out most of this day, so I probably won't be able to send my hand on until much later.

Speaking of hand, I do not believe I have received Insomniac's cards.

[mith]

Sent to Qvist.

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - RECEIVED, DONE
Galzria - RECEIVED
mith -
Qvist - RECEIVED
Davio -
Insomniac -

Since we need to forward choices ourselves for this hand and the last one of these quote boxes showed most people had not sent, I think we should include a "RECEIVED" flag as well.  I received my hand 2 from Kuild and Galz should have received his hand 2 from me.  I take mith's comment to mean that Qvist has received his hand 2 as well.

[Davio]

Sent to Insomniac.

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - RECEIVED, DONE
Galzria - RECEIVED
mith -
Qvist - RECEIVED
Davio -
Insomniac - RECEIVED, DONE

Sending previous hand as well

[Davio]

Mr. Qvist, if you'll be so kind...

[Tables]

Sorry for causing chaos. But boaard games.

I'll be reading my PMs now, then forwarding hands to anyone who hasn't sent a choice yet and hasn't said they've received their hand.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Qvist]

Mr. Qvist, if you'll be so kind...

Sorry, I haven't read every thread on the weekend, especially not this one as I knew that Tables isn't around.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Where are people?

[Tables]

We're just waiting on Galzria. I figure he's been busy.

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Foundry: Produce two Ore. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
eHalcyon - Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications. Cost: 3 Stone.
Galzria - Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University. Cost: 2 Stone, Cloth. (Chained from Scriptorium)
mith - Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary. Cost: Ore, Brick. Wood. (Pays 2 coins to Qvist for Wood & Ore. Gets 1 coin from Hatshepsut)
Qvist - Brickyard: Produce two Brick. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Davio - Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths. Cost: 3 Stone.
Insomniac - Tabularium: 6 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins, Ore, Wood, Cloth.


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 1: 5 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Walls: 2 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Davio]

I just found out the cost for the Traders Guild in the first post info dump is listed incorrectly.

It should be Cloth, Papyrus, Glass instead of 3 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus. This is the cost for the Philosophers Guild.

And of course the Builders Guild is still costed wrong: Should be 2 Stone, 2 Brick, Glass instead of 2 Wood, 2 Brick, Glass.

Hmm, better check those costs, Tables.

[Tables]

Yeah, I had just realised I updated them on the spreadsheet but forgot to do it here. Thanks for reminding me anyway.

[Davio]

Yeah, I had just realised I updated them on the spreadsheet but forgot to do it here. Thanks for reminding me anyway.

If there are any more discrepancies, let us know. I don't want to run into something I planned on building, but can't anymore.

[Tables]

I don't think there are...

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Qvist]

I think I already sent Tables the card I play. I just check.

Edit:

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

Sorry, forgot to post here.

[Davio]

Taaaaaableeees! 

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Builds wonder stage 2
eHalcyon - Mercenaries: 3 Shields. Cost: 4 Coins, Papyrus.
Galzria - Discards for 3 coins
mith - Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities. (Earns 4 coins)
Qvist - Courthouse: 4 VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth.
Davio - Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce. Cost: Ore, Cloth. (Pays Qvist 0 coins for cloth. Diocletian provides 2 coins)
Insomniac - Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass. (Hammurabi removes a glass)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 1: 5 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 20
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Insomniac]

Send me something to let me turn the game around Qvist!

[Qvist]

Send me something to let me turn the game around Qvist!

Wrong game!? And I already did

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

 

[Tables]

Isomn (or anyone else) have I not sent your hands? Thought I did everyone :-/
Inb4 "Thought I did everyone" goes into the out of context thread

[Insomniac]

Isomn (or anyone else) have I not sent your hands? Thought I did everyone :-/
Inb4 "Thought I did everyone" goes into the out of context thread

My post was meant for 7W 1.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaableeeeeeeeeeeessssss!

[Tables]

Damn, not enough time to update now before going to Uni . Will be done in about 2 hours though.

[Davio]

Damn, not enough time to update now before going to Uni . Will be done in about 2 hours though.

Just forward me all the PMs, I will update. 

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications. Cost: 3 Stone.
eHalcyon - Builds wonder stage 3 (Pays 1 coin to Bilkis for brick)
Galzria - Discard card for 3 coins
mith - Sawmill: Produce two Wood. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Qvist - Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Davio - Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities. (Earns 6 coins)
Insomniac - Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore. (Chained from Theater. Leaders provide 3 coins)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Tables a reminder, I've built 2 stages of my wonder.

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[eHalcyon]

Qvist!

And then Tables!

[Qvist]

I already did my move, Tables knows that.
Tables and I agreed that I don't post here because I build my wonder stage I, but I have to wait for all until I see the full discard pile.

[eHalcyon]

I already did my move, Tables knows that.
Tables and I agreed that I don't post here because I build my wonder stage I, but I have to wait for all until I see the full discard pile.

Ah, OK.

[Tables]

Ugh, 13 PMs, you guys are making my life hell .

JK, gonna get around to it imminently.

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore. (Pays eHalcyon 1 coin for wood)
eHalcyon - Builds wonder stage 4 (Pays 1 coin to produce stone from Bilkis)
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins
mith - Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities. (Earns 4 coins)
Qvist - Builds wonder stage 1
Davio - Builds wonder stage 2 (Pays Qvist 0 coins for papyrus)
Insomniac - Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore. (Pays 2 coins to Kuildeous for wood)

Qvist has been sent the discard pile, and will build a card in due course.

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 23
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A) DIPLOMACY
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, diplomacy

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Archery Range: 2 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

A few things changed with the layout, hope this is to everyone's liking.

[eHalcyon]

Wow Galz, that's a lot of discarding. 

[Galzria]

Wow Galz, that's a lot of discarding. 

Money makes the world go 'round.

[eHalcyon]

Are we waiting for Qvist to pick his card now?

[Tables]

I think everyone else has been sent their new hand. Unless you think Qvist's choice is likely to affect you, go ahead and send me your hand 6 choice.

[Kuildeous]

Insomniac - Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore. (Pays 2 coins to Kuildeous for wood)

Far be it for me to turn down money, but my civilization produces no wood.

[eHalcyon]

Insomniac - Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore. (Pays 2 coins to Kuildeous for wood)

Far be it for me to turn down money, but my civilization produces no wood.

And Davio has none...

I guess Ins gets to decide whether to pitch or build wonder based on his current hand.

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Yeah, whatever Insomniac decides won't change what I do with my crappy hand.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Shenanigans. How do you have all the brown cards in the world Kuildeous but no wood. This is reverse Catan!

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

@Kuild, your hand was fine.  You got a good card, whether it is what I think you built, or the other thing you could have built.

[Davio]

I love paying 0 for stuff, you're welcome, Qvist!

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Qvist]

I love paying 0 for stuff, you're welcome, Qvist!

 

I just picked my card, it's a Pawnshop.

[Davio]

I love paying 0 for stuff, you're welcome, Qvist!

 

I just picked my card, it's a Pawnshop.

Fingers crossed for Age III Magistrates Guild. 

[Tables]

Wow, dunno how I missed that with Insomniac. Yeah, so uh the standard rule IIRC is either discard for money or build a wonder stage with the card.

[Davio]

Wow, dunno how I missed that with Insomniac. Yeah, so uh the standard rule IIRC is either discard for money or build a wonder stage with the card.

Sorry to be harsh here, but the rules say the following, source (PDF):

Note: if a player has chosen a card but is unable to build either the structure or the Wonder stage, that player is then forced to discard the card
and takes 3 coins from the bank.

The way I interpret it is if a player can't pay the resources on the card (or he already has the same card) he wanted to use for either building the structure or the wonder stage, he must discard it.

In this case he wanted to build the structure, but couldn't pay, so he must discard. He can't use it to build his wonder retroactively.

[Tables]

Fair enough. We're just a little more lenient in our group I guess .

[Tables]

Okay, Insomniac discards for 3(+1) coins.

[Davio]

Fair enough. We're just a little more lenient in our group I guess .

Well, I said that that's the way I interpret it. I think there is room for debate, but you're the mod so you get to decide.

You could also interpret it that you must either build the structure or, if you're unable to, the wonder stage and only if you're unable to do both, must discard it. That seems less likely to me, but I couldn't find an official ruling.

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Loom: Produce Cloth.
eHalcyon - Discard for 3 coins
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins
mith - Brickyard: Produce two Brick. Cost: 1 Coin. (Pays 1 coin)
Qvist - Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Brick, Papyrus.
Davio - Builds Wonder stage 3 (Pays Qvist 0 coins for cloth)
Insomniac - Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University. Cost: 2 Stone, Cloth. (Pays 2 coins to Kuildeous for Stone)

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 13
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 22
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B) - DIPLOMACY
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A) - DIPLOMACY
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Aqueduct: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Qvist]

Did Insomniac's Archery Range disappear?

[Kuildeous]

The way I interpret it is if a player can't pay the resources on the card (or he already has the same card) he wanted to use for either building the structure or the wonder stage, he must discard it.

In this case he wanted to build the structure, but couldn't pay, so he must discard. He can't use it to build his wonder retroactively.

If it matters, I'm all for letting a player retroactively build his wonder if he can.

I suppose if there were a tournament, I could see standing by the rules stating that you have to discard a card, but I'm of the mindset that if the player purposefully chose that card rather than accidentally try to play it without the right resources or try to play a duplicate, then he would have the decision to discard or build one stage of his wonder.

I'd vote for leniency if it came to one.

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Well, Insom has an awkward wonder and whatever was built on this and the previous turn may have influenced the leader he wants to play next. So if we retroactively let him build his wonder, we get that weird situation where he has more info than he should have had.

So I don't mind Tables' decision to make him discard which is in compliance with the rules.

However, if this decision is rolled back, I wouldn't mind. I'm cool either way.

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Tables]

Did Insomniac's Archery Range disappear?

Yeah. We realised it wasn't a legal play (I'm usually policing these things but that one slipped through)

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Don't want to build my wonder for what its worth anyways. So my choice is to discard here.

[Insomniac]

(And that was something I noted in my QT as well)

[eHalcyon]

I realized I made a mistake and Tables wouldn't let me change it! 

Provably works out the same.

On phone so not updating the quote box, but I've submitted my choice.

[Qvist]

Ok, I guess we're done because I'll build another wonder stage and wait now for Tables to send me the discard.

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - 1/2 DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

I realized I made a mistake and Tables wouldn't let me change it! 

Provably works out the same.

On phone so not updating the quote box, but I've submitted my choice.

That was supposed to say "probably". In the end though, it depends on how the cards are distributed. It could be very bad for me. 

[Insomniac]

I realized I made a mistake and Tables wouldn't let me change it! 

Provably works out the same.

On phone so not updating the quote box, but I've submitted my choice.

That was supposed to say "probably". In the end though, it depends on how the cards are distributed. It could be very bad for me. 

I assure you it will be AWFUL

[Tables]

Ok, I guess we're done because I'll build another wonder stage and wait now for Tables to send me the discard.

I believe I already did. But I did forget to do the update.

Kuildeous - Discard for 3 coins
eHalcyon - Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass. (Pays 1 coin to Bilkis for glass)
Galzria - Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus. Then build wonder stage 3 (Pays mith 2 coins for brick)
mith - Discards for 3 coins
Qvist - Build Wonder stage 2
Davio - Courthouse: 4 VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth.
Insomniac - Glassworks: Produce Glass.

As Qvist has diplomacy I can go ahead and do military now.

Qvist and Davio discard their diplomacy tokens.
Kuildeous beats eHalcyon 7-5
eHalcyon beats Galzria 5-0
Galzria loses to mith 0-4 (+2 coins from Nero)
mith beats Insomniac 4-0 (+2 coins from Nero)
Insomniac loses to Kuildeous 0-7

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Temple: 3 VPs

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 31
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Insomniac]

Tables I SHOULD have 16 coins, as you did not refund me the 2 I gave to Kuildeous for wood.

[Tables]

I believe I did, but you paid Kuildeous 2 coins in the next card.

[Insomniac]

I believe I did, but you paid Kuildeous 2 coins in the next card.

Ahh yes correct, I was just looking to see that I went up to 16 at some point but neglected to see if I had paid coins.

[Insomniac]

Hurray for Age 3 time!

The real question...will this game finish BEFORE 7 Wonders 1!?

[mith]

MOAR COINS.

(...and I don't have access to a second Stone for my Wonder. Super lame.)

[Insomniac]

MOAR COINS.

(...and I don't have access to a second Stone for my Wonder. Super lame.)

You are not allowed the gamers guild or the leader that does the same thing. 30 points for 30 coins...gross.

[Tables]

Qvist builds:
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins. Cost: Wood, Glass.

This is convenient, as we don't need to rely on conditional orders for the money discard. Everyone make your payment choice and send your next leader to me (I'll send leader hands around again).

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

Curious if anyone takes voluntary debt, that's allowed, right?

[Insomniac]

Curious if anyone takes voluntary debt, that's allowed, right?

Yes it is allowed.

[eHalcyon]

MOAR COINS.

(...and I don't have access to a second Stone for my Wonder. Super lame.)

You are not allowed the gamers guild or the leader that does the same thing. 30 points for 30 coins...gross.

You're overestimating those two.  They are 1VP per $3, so 10VP each.  Still powerful, but not as outrageous.



@mith, didn't you have a chance to get the Black Market in like the first hand?  Why did you take Forum instead?



I am going to check all the money transactions to ensure I have all the correct info before deciding what to do.  I am kicking myself for three specific mistakes.  The one I was lamenting most recently turned out NOT to be a mistake because I forgot about ANOTHER factor. 

[mith]

Because I'm an idiot.

(Or, because I thought surely some Stone would get to me at some point, but that was a poor assumption.)

[eHalcyon]

Curious if anyone takes voluntary debt, that's allowed, right?

Yes it is allowed.

I have a tough time evaluating the trade-off.  I believe that with optimal play (barring Gamers Guild and Midas), you have enough money to afford every card you want to buy and end with $0.  But it's hard to tell how much money you are going to need unless you have very steady income from a leader or something, or a bajillion resources so you never need to pay.  I think I already made a mistake in this vein earlier, and I am worried that I am going to make a mistake again.

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Because I'm an idiot.

(Or, because I thought surely some Stone would get to me at some point, but that was a poor assumption.)

But even then, why not take Black Market?  Since you had no grey, BM was strictly superior to Forum for you, wasn't it?  I suppose it would have cost you slightly more, but it's not like you were lacking for money.

Maybe you are trolling us all and you are going to whip out Midas.

[Insomniac]

@eH if he gets the Leader thats 10, the guild thats 10, and then he gets 10 from the money on its own, thats 30

[eHalcyon]

@eH if he gets the Leader thats 10, the guild thats 10, and then he gets 10 from the money on its own, thats 30

Right, right.  I thought you meant that they were 1VP per $1.  That would be hilarious.

[Insomniac]

@eH if he gets the Leader thats 10, the guild thats 10, and then he gets 10 from the money on its own, thats 30

Right, right.  I thought you meant that they were 1VP per $1.  That would be hilarious.

Oh god no, I simply meant if he had all 3.

[mith]

Not a huge spoiler or anything, so: I don't have Midas. Keeping him wouldn't have jived with building my wonder. Anyway, if I did have him there's nothing you could do about it anyway. (Also, he costs 3 coins, plus debt, so only 24 points total, and that's assuming I don't take a net loss in coins over age III.)

eHalc - You're absolutely right; I haven't played with Cities enough and had it in my head that BM would just be brown resources, not grey. Live and learn...

[eHalcyon]

(after last hand of Age II, before loss from Qvist's Lair and before Age III leader recruitment)

Kuild - $6
-$2 for Phidias. $4
-$1 for Quarry. $3
-$1 for Foundry. $2
+$4 from Wonder Stage 2. $6
-$1 for Wood. $5 (the infamous "Kuild has no wood" incident)
+$2 from Ins. $7
+$3 from Discard. $10

**Kuild should have $13 at the end because he should have had $9 at the start of Age II.

eHalc - $10
-$1 for Sappo. $9
+$2 from Galz. $11
-$4 for Mercenaries. $7
-$1 for Brick. $6
+$1 from Kuild. -$1 for Stone. $6
+$3 from discard. $9
-$1 for Glass. $8

Galz - $6
-$3 for Aristotle. $3
-$2 for Brick. $1
+$3 from discard. $4
+$3 from discard. $7
+$3 from discard. $10
+$3 from discard. $13
-$2 for Brick. $11

mith - $19
-$2 for Hatshepsut. $17
-$2 for Wood and Ore. +$1 from Hatshepsut. $16
+$4 from Vineyard. $20
-$1 for Sawmill. $19
+$4 from Bazaar. $23
-$1 for Brickyard. $22
+$2 from Galz, +$3 from discard. $27
+$4 from Nero. $31

Qvist - $14
-$4 for Nebuchadnezzar. $10
+$2 from mith. -$1 for Brickyard. $11

Davio - $5
-$1 for Zenobia. $4
+$2 from Diocletian. $6
+$6 from Bazaar. $12

Ins - $11
-$2 for Tabularium. $9
+$3 from Vitruvius and Berenice. $12
+$4 from discard, Berenice. $15 $16 (Kuild has no wood!)
-$2 for Stone. $13 $14 (This seems not to have been adjusted correctly)







Sorry Ins, I think you should be at $13.

Berenice!

[Insomniac]

eHalc I get 4 from discard because of my leader

[Insomniac]

(once a turn whenever I get coin I get 1 additional coin)

[Kuildeous]

-$1 for Wood. $5 (the infamous "Kuild has no wood" incident)

I'd rather be famed for my 64-point wonder in Through the Ages, but I guess I take fame where I can get it.

Hey, the coins from the first stage of my wonder aren't represented there.

Also, I get coins for playing yellow cards.

[eHalcyon]

eHalc I get 4 from discard because of my leader

Ahhhhh.  Right.  Fixed!

-$1 for Wood. $5 (the infamous "Kuild has no wood" incident)

I'd rather be famed for my 64-point wonder in Through the Ages, but I guess I take fame where I can get it.

Hey, the coins from the first stage of my wonder aren't represented there.

Also, I get coins for playing yellow cards.

You built your first wonder stage in Age I, and didn't build any yellows in Age II.

[Insomniac]

heh you crossed out the 16 and left the 15 so now your math looks wrong

[eHalcyon]

Kuild
$6.  Pay $1 for Xenophon.
$5.  Gain $2 from Xenophon for East Trading Post.
$7.  Gain $2 from Xenophone West Trading Post.
$9.  Pay $1 to eHalcyon for Wood. (**payment not displayed here)
$8.  Pay $1 to eHalcyon and $1 to Insomniac for Stone.
$6.

Final coin total is $3 too much.  I think you missed payments from two hands here.

I went back because I sometimes forget to check wonders.  I did forget Kuild's +$3 from his wonder.  You guys should check my checking!

So Kuild should actually have +$3 from his current total (since Tables corrected his correct value to my incorrect value, whoops).  I hope this didn't adversely affect any of your choices. 

[Insomniac]

Kuild
$6.  Pay $1 for Xenophon.
$5.  Gain $2 from Xenophon for East Trading Post.
$7.  Gain $2 from Xenophone West Trading Post.
$9.  Pay $1 to eHalcyon for Wood. (**payment not displayed here)
$8.  Pay $1 to eHalcyon and $1 to Insomniac for Stone.
$6.

Final coin total is $3 too much.  I think you missed payments from two hands here.

I went back because I sometimes forget to check wonders.  I did forget Kuild's +$3 from his wonder.  You guys should check my checking!

So Kuild should actually have +$3 from his current total (since Tables corrected his correct value to my incorrect value, whoops).  I hope this didn't adversely affect any of your choices. 

I have checked your checking of me both times

[Tables]

Is it bad that I just assume eHalc is right ? Yeah sorry Kuild.

[Davio]

I don't care anyway, I just want my next hand.

[Insomniac]

Is it bad that I just assume eHalc is right ? Yeah sorry Kuild.

In a surprising turn of events despite having 0 cards on his table eHalc wins with 100 pts!

[eHalcyon]

Galzria's tableau doesn't show that his third wonder stage is now built.

[Davio]

I've built every stage as well.

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Kuildeous]

Evil Halcyon messing with my money and not replying to my message so I look like the jerk. I'll show him.

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your right (below) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 2 coins (+2 coins for Lair))
eHalcyon - Discard for 3 coins (Pays 2 coins then takes 3 coins)
Galzria - Ptolemy: Tablet. Cost: 5 Coins. (Pays 5 coins (+2 for Lair))
mith - Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 3 coins (+2 for Lair))
Qvist - Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 3 coins)
Davio - Darius: 1 VP per black card.. Cost: 4 Coins. (Pays 3 coins (+2 for Lair))
Insomniac - Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays 1 coin (+2 for Lair))

Fun fact: A (now errata'd) rules section now says everyone must discard a leader. This includes Rome. The errata says don't do it (as you might expect).

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Temple: 3 VPs

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Insomniac]

AGE 3!

[eHalcyon]

Evil Halcyon messing with my money and not replying to my message so I look like the jerk. I'll show him.

Which message now?

[Galzria]

Caaards.... Want new caaaaards...

[Tables]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

All hands distributed.

[eHalcyon]

All hands distributed.

I need to see what Leaders people chose!

Yaaaaay Amytis! 

(Sadly, I do not have Amytis.)

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Insomniac]

My scoreboard suggests the scores are pretty tight at the start of this age.

[Tables]

All hands distributed.

I need to see what Leaders people chose!

Yaaaaay Amytis! 

(Sadly, I do not have Amytis.)

Post 400

[eHalcyon]

All hands distributed.

I need to see what Leaders people chose!

Yaaaaay Amytis! 

(Sadly, I do not have Amytis.)

Post 400

Oops, missed it.

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Hey mith, feel free to forward on to me.

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE, SENT
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Dear Tables,

I would like to keep my current hand for the entire age.
As I see no problems with this, I'll just go ahead and do it, okay?

Thanks!

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE, SENT
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE, SENT
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

You're supposed to call Tables over if you're the last one. 

[Tables]

Dear Tables,

I would like to keep my current hand for the entire age.
As I see no problems with this, I'll just go ahead and do it, okay?

Thanks!

The Esteban promo leader lets you keep your hand for one more round at least .

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum. Cost: Cloth, Ore, Wood. (Gives 5 coins, 2 coins from Xenophon. Pays eHalcyon 1 coin for wood)
eHalcyon - Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass. (Chained from Temple)
Galzria - Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass, Cloth. (Chained from Laboratory)
mith - Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.. Cost: Stone, Brick, Wood, Ore. (Pays 2 coins to Qvist for stone & ore)
Qvist - Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery. Cost: Glass, Stone. (Gets 3 coins)
Davio - Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours. Cost: 2 Stone, 2 Brick, Glass.
Insomniac - Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus. (Pays Kuildeous 2 coins for Brick, earns 7 coins)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet


Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 24
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 13
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[eHalcyon]

Curse you Davio!  My Builders Guild!

[Davio]

Curse you Davio!  My Builders Guild!

Sorry mate, it's just too good to pass on, although I would have liked many of my other choices as well.

[eHalcyon]

Curse you Davio!  My Builders Guild!

Sorry mate, it's just too good to pass on, although I would have liked many of my other choices as well.

It probably wouldn't have reached me anyway.

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Curse you Davio!  My Builders Guild!

Sorry mate, it's just too good to pass on, although I would have liked many of my other choices as well.

It probably wouldn't have reached me anyway.

Well, Guilds are like that. The good ones get snatched up quickly and every next hand gets more crummy!

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Galzria]

This hand made me cry.

mith, feel free to send on the next. Hopefully it won't crush my soul the way this one did.

[eHalcyon]

This hand made me cry.

mith, feel free to send on the next. Hopefully it won't crush my soul the way this one did.

...this makes me feel bad.  It scares me.

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Davio]

Wake up, Qvist, we might get two in before weekend AFKs!

[Galzria]

Weekend AFKs!

CURSE YOU WEEKENDS!

[Insomniac]

Wake up, Qvist, we might get two in before weekend AFKs!

Somebody could start the teams game 

[Qvist]

Sorry, give me a sec although Davio might already sleep. mith's Gamer's Guild was really nice too.

[eHalcyon]

Tables is gone tooooo.

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Insomniac]

I'll summon him

TABLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

[Tables]

Zzzzzzzzzz


Will update in due course.

Edit: Noticed a mistake in a build decision. PMed that person. Gives me an excuse (asides from being V/LA all day) as well, even though I'm pretty sure what they'll do instead 

[Davio]

Discard and take 3 coins?

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Palace: 8 VPs. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth, Brick, Wood, Ore, Stone. (Pays Insomniac 2 coins for glass, eHalc 3 coins for wood and papyrus)
eHalcyon - Palace: 8 VPs. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth, Brick, Wood, Ore, Stone. (Pays Bilkis 1 coin for Glass, Kuildeous 2 coins for Cloth)
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins
mith - Discard for 3 coins
Qvist - Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.. Cost: 3 Ore, Glass, Cloth. (Pays Davio 2 coins for Ore (everyone chooses to lose 3 coins))
Davio - Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Insomniac - Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass. (Chained from Temple, gets 3 coins from Leaders)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet


Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 24
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 18
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Davio]

Do we need to say if we want to pay up again? And do we couple it with our next card choice?

[Tables]

Ugh, sorry, I knew I was waiting on something and forgot to resolve that. Let me delete that post and post it again with the corrected information.

Edit: Fixed. If anyone believes they told me to take debt instead let me know.

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

My Observatory (Hand 1) was never placed in my kingdom.

[Insomniac]

I would like my 2 coins from that round please.. (paid 2, gained 3, lost 3 net 2)

[eHalcyon]

I would like my 2 coins from that round please.. (paid 2, gained 3, lost 3 net 2)

You already have it, I think? Maybe Tables already fixed it, though the timestamps would be off then.

[Insomniac]

@eHalc nope don't have it between both of the status updates i have 18 in both.

But in the newest one I should have gained 3 for chaining from leaders and 2 from Kuildeous paying me

=23 Gold.

Losing 3 Gold to the one debt card played

=20 Gold

So unless I'm missing another 2 gold I should have lost somewhere?

[eHalcyon]

You had 16 before and went up to 18.

[eHalcyon]

My Observatory (Hand 1) was never placed in my kingdom.

Qvist's Counterfeiters Guild also appears to be missing.

By the way, I am double checking the coin changes for each update now, instead of doing it all at the end.

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

mith, I've sent you something nice. 

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE, SENT
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token. Cost: 2 Ore, 2 Wood. (Pays eHalcyon 2 coins for 2 wood. Earns 4 coins)
eHalcyon - Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city. Cost: 3 Wood, Papyrus, Glass. (Pays 1 coin to Bilkis for Glass)
Galzria - Study: Gear. Chain from: School. Cost: Wood, Papyrus, Cloth. (Pays 2 coins to mith for wood, 2 coins to eHalcyon for papyrus)
mith - Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood. (Pays 2 coins to Qvist for Ore, Stone. Hatshepsut gives a coin)
Qvist - Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum. Cost: Cloth, Ore, Wood. (Chained from Forum. Gets 4 coins)
Davio - Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone. (Earns 9 coins)
Insomniac - Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood. (Chained from Library)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 13
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 0
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet
Observatory: Gear
Study: Gear

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 25
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

Senate: 6 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 15
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 21
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[eHalcyon]

I don't have my next hand from Galz.

[Galzria]

I don't have my next hand from Galz.

Yes you do! No lying!

Also, I need my next hand from Mith.

[Insomniac]

I too need my next hand

[Tables]

Patience people . I think I've sent them out, let me know if anyone is still missing it.

[Insomniac]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Galzria]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[mith]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous -
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Based on what I've seen so far, I have made a prediction for the winner.  It is not me.

[Galzria]

It's not me either.

[Insomniac]

Based on what I've seen so far, I have made a prediction for the winner.  It is not me.

I've had a score tally since the beginning of this age

[eHalcyon]

Based on what I've seen so far, I have made a prediction for the winner.  It is not me.

I've had a score tally since the beginning of this age

Oh, me too.  But I'm thinking of cards that I've had and not built that are AMAZING for certain others... but I will shut up about it now.

[Galzria]

Based on what I've seen so far, I have made a prediction for the winner.  It is not me.

I've had a score tally since the beginning of this age

So have I. I came in in ~4th, and am steadily (ok, often quickly) falling further back.

[Insomniac]

Based on what I've seen so far, I have made a prediction for the winner.  It is not me.

I've had a score tally since the beginning of this age

So have I. I came in in ~4th, and am steadily (ok, often quickly) falling further back.

Coming into this age I had you at tied for 2nd.

[Galzria]

Based on what I've seen so far, I have made a prediction for the winner.  It is not me.

I've had a score tally since the beginning of this age

So have I. I came in in ~4th, and am steadily (ok, often quickly) falling further back.

Coming into this age I had you at tied for 2nd.

I had 4th, however 1st-4th was a spread of only 5 points.

[Kuildeous]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[eHalcyon]

Send me my cards, Galz!

[Galzria]

Send me my cards, Galz!

Never! You're beating me! I don't want you to have more cards!

[eHalcyon]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac - DONE

[Davio]

Doh, just found out the first stage of Petra is costed incorrectly.

Should be 2 Brick, 2 Ore instead of 2 Brick, 2 Stone.
This matters because this means that mith could still build both his stages!

[eHalcyon]

Players have been making tactical decisions based on the incorrect cost though.  I think we have to accept it for what it is, just like the incorrect guild costs in 7WI.

[Davio]

Players have been making tactical decisions based on the incorrect cost though.  I think we have to accept it for what it is, just like the incorrect guild costs in 7WI.

Again I'll accept either decision by the mod, just needed to point this out since I corrected it for 7W Teams.
Still it sucks for mith since this change would mean he could earn another gazillion points.

[Davio]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous - DONE, SENT
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE, SENT
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac - DONE

[Tables]

Ugh . Well to be honest I don't think mith really cares at this point (why spend 14 coins which is 14 points for him to get 14 points?) and yeah it was there right from the start so, eh.

[Qvist]

DONE
I build the last Wonder stage. Don't send me my hand yet.

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token. Cost: 2 Brick, Stone, Cloth, Glass. (Pays eHalcyon 1 coin for brick, Insomniac 2 coins for glass. eHalcyon pays 1. mith pays 4. Davio pays 2.)
eHalcyon - Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone. (Earns 12 coins)
Galzria - University: Tablet. Chain from: Library. Cost: 2 Wood, Papyrus, Glass. (Chained from Library)
mith - Courtesan's Guild: Choose a leader in an adjacent city. You gain the effect of that leader. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass, Cloth. (Pays 2 coins to Galzria for glass. Courtesans Midas)
Qvist - Builds wonder stage 3
Davio - Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick.
Insomniac - Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: Glass, Cloth, Papyrus.

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 7
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 22
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet
Observatory: Gear
Study: Gear
University: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

Senate: 6 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Courtesan's Guild: [Midas] 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. [Courtesan token]

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 13
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 23
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Tables]

Qvist builds a Town Hall

Sending hands now or not. Will send hands in a few hours when I have time.

[Davio]

Ugh . Well to be honest I don't think mith really cares at this point (why spend 14 coins which is 14 points for him to get 14 points?) and yeah it was there right from the start so, eh.

Because it's not 14 points for him.
He gets 14/3 (normal count) + 14/3 (Gamers Guild) = 28/3 = 9 points for them if he doesn't build his wonder with it.
If he does, he gets 14 points, so a net gain of 5 points, a pretty significant amount I would say.

Disregard that, I didn't see him copying Midas.

[Davio]

Qvist builds a Town Hall

Sending hands now or not. Will send hands in a few hours when I have time.

Nooooooooo, do it now, pleaaaaseee.

[Qvist]

Disregard that, I didn't see him copying Midas.

Yeah, that's pretty ugly. But I couldn't prevent that.

[Davio]

Disregard that, I didn't see him copying Midas.

Yeah, that's pretty ugly. But I couldn't prevent that.

Well, no biggie man, sometimes you just have to pass good cards...Insomniac, feel like passing some good ones now?

[Qvist]

Thanks for forwarding, Davio.

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Np, bud, hoping Insom does the same.

[Davio]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous -
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[Tables]

I think everyone has their next hand.

[Kuildeous]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith -
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[mith]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[eHalcyon]

Put done after your name after you have made your choice, put sent after your name after you send it on to the player on your left (above), do not send until after they have put the done token.

Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria -
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[eHalcyon]

mith should gain 1 coin from Hatshepsut, putting him at $20.

[mith]

MOAR MONIES.

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore. (Chained from Training Ground)
eHalcyon - Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card. Cost: Stone, Papyrus. (Gets 2 coins)
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins
mith - Discard for 3 coins
Qvist - Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Brick, Glass.
Davio - Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Wood, Stone, Cloth. (Pays Insomniac 1 coin for wood, Qvist 0 coins for cloth)
Insomniac - Discard for 3 coins

Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 10
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields
Circus: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 24
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card

Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet
Observatory: Gear
Study: Gear
University: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 23
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

Senate: 6 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Courtesan's Guild: [Midas] 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. [Courtesan token]

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities

Barracks: 1 Shield

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 27
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Insomniac]

Extra coin from leader please.

[Galzria]

Cards cards cards cards!

[Tables]

Extra coin from leader please.

Done (on sheet). I think everyone has their hands, let me know if I missed you.

[Galzria]

different Cards different cards different cards different cards!

[Galzria]

Oh, and mith, you're a big meanie!

[Kuildeous]

I'm going to forget to reply to this, so I'm saying now that I'm DONE.

[Galzria]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon -
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[eHalcyon]

Galz keeps discarding the good things from my hand.  Also, my FIRST hand was just TOO GOOD, pretty much everyone is getting something great from it.  Meanwhile, all the other hands have had the good cards picked out from them.




By the way, I don't think there is any way to stop Davio from winning now.  There were still some possibilities earlier, but after what's happened...

[eHalcyon]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith -
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Galzria]

I really, honestly, haven't been. I've only discarded once this age! I'm just getting a whole lot of nothing. Like what's left of this next hand...

[eHalcyon]

I really, honestly, haven't been. I've only discarded once this age! I'm just getting a whole lot of nothing. Like what's left of this next hand...

This was the second discard for you, wasn't it?

You've actually had perfectly fine cards.  You just didn't have the resources to build them.

[Galzria]

I really, honestly, haven't been. I've only discarded once this age! I'm just getting a whole lot of nothing. Like what's left of this next hand...

This was the second discard for you, wasn't it?

You've actually had perfectly fine cards.  You just didn't have the resources to build them.

Even if I did have the resources, very little of what I passed would have given me much of anything.

[Galzria]

Nah, you're right though - I've built three science centers and discarded twice. However only once when I discarded was I passing on something I wanted - and had I been able to build it, I would still be well behind.

[Kuildeous]

By the way, I don't think there is any way to stop Davio from winning now.  There were still some possibilities earlier, but after what's happened...

Spoilers!

[eHalcyon]

Nah, you're right though - I've built three science centers and discarded twice. However only once when I discarded was I passing on something I wanted - and had I been able to build it, I would still be well behind.

I actually don't think so.  I think you would be right there fighting at the front, and your last hand could very well put you in #1...

[Galzria]

By the way, I don't think there is any way to stop Davio from winning now.  There were still some possibilities earlier, but after what's happened...

Spoilers!

Unfortunately that's not spoiling much!

[mith]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio -
Insomniac -

[Kuildeous]

By the way, I don't think there is any way to stop Davio from winning now.  There were still some possibilities earlier, but after what's happened...

Spoilers!

Unfortunately that's not spoiling much!

Hey, I play this game like IRL. I only look at my neighbors and ignore the others so that I can be surprised when I do lose.

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist -
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Qvist]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE
Insomniac -

[Davio]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac -

[Insomniac]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice. Put SENT as well after/if you forward your hand to your left (above) neighbour (AFTER they've put a done in the token!)
Kuildeous - DONE
eHalcyon - DONE, SENT
Galzria - DONE
mith - DONE
Qvist - DONE
Davio - DONE, SENT
Insomniac - DONE, SENT

[Tables]

Kuildeous - Discard for 3 coins
eHalcyon - Discard for 3 coins
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins
mith - Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus. (Pays 2 coins to Qvist for cloth. Gets 1 coin from Hatshepsut.)
Qvist - Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone. (Pays Davio 2 coins for stone. Gets 9 coins.)
Davio - Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth. (Pays Qvist 0 coins for cloth)
Insomniac - Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick. (Chained from Statue. Earns 2+1 coins from leaders)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 13
Debt: 0
Strength: 10
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields
Circus: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 27
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card

Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet
Observatory: Gear
Study: Gear
University: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 22
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

Senate: 6 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Lodge: Compasses

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Courtesan's Guild: [Midas] 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. [Courtesan token]

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities

Barracks: 1 Shield
Arsenal: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 31
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

Final hand incoming!

(Edit: Fixed Insomn's board)

[Qvist]

Ha, now I have more monies than mith. 

[eHalcyon]

DAMN.  I didn't think Kuild would just discard.  Ughhhhhh.

[mith]

I'm done.

[eHalcyon]

Ahh, I don't think it matters anyways.  I could have stolen a military victory, but I'm pretty sure Davio would still have a higher score.

[Kuildeous]

Ahh, I don't think it matters anyways.  I could have stolen a military victory, but I'm pretty sure Davio would still have a higher score.

I figured you were already conceding that fight based on one of the cards you handed me. Not that I was thrilled with the idea of paying for it myself.

[eHalcyon]

Ahh, I don't think it matters anyways.  I could have stolen a military victory, but I'm pretty sure Davio would still have a higher score.

I figured you were already conceding that fight based on one of the cards you handed me. Not that I was thrilled with the idea of paying for it myself.

I should have figured you would figure that.  And I could have used these last two hands to beat you.  But I am pretty sure Davio takes it anyway.  I actually don't want to check through the impact of these last two hands; I know that I am not first, and would not have been first even if I stole the win from you.  Maybe I could have been second though... sigh.

[Insomniac]

Can i have ALL my info plx

[Tables]

Can i have ALL my info plx

What do you mean by that?

[Tables]

Oh, right. Whoops, copy paste error.

Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 31
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

[Galzria]

mith was mean and wouldn't let me have the last card I wanted even though it wouldn't have had am impact on the leader.

Now I'm going to take 5th or 6th. Terrible.

[eHalcyon]

mith was mean and wouldn't let me have the last card I wanted even though it wouldn't have had am impact on the leader.

Now I'm going to take 5th or 6th. Terrible.

More likely he wanted it to get a few extra points out of Justinian.  He couldn't afford the one that cost 3 Stone, of course.

[Galzria]

mith was mean and wouldn't let me have the last card I wanted even though it wouldn't have had am impact on the leader.

Now I'm going to take 5th or 6th. Terrible.

More likely he wanted it to get a few extra points out of Justinian.  He couldn't afford the one that cost 3 Stone, of course.

I refuse to believe it was anything other than being mean to me!

[mith]

I was absolutely being mean to you. I wasn't about to be "that guy" who let his neighbor play 10 science cards...

[mith]

Now give me more monies!

[Galzria]

I was absolutely being mean to you. I wasn't about to be "that guy" who let his neighbor play 10 science cards...

Well... To be fair... I probably deserved it after mercilessly burning your Resource Cards for your Wonder in Age II... but c'mon! I needed those coppers!

Besides, that Lodge would've only been worth 13 VP.

[Davio]

I'm done.

Me too.

[eHalcyon]

I was absolutely being mean to you. I wasn't about to be "that guy" who let his neighbor play 10 science cards...

In Age II, I think I only let Galz have Science when there were multiple greens (so I would have to pass one anyway) or when he wasn't going to be able to build it.  With my last hand, I let him have that Gear (Lab, I think?) and burned the School.  Couldn't let him have all those chains!

When I was fretting over making a bad decision at the end of Age II, it was because I had forgotten that I gave Galz that "3VP per Science set" leader.  I had calculated that School would make it easier for him to get lots of points (mostly by stacking bunches of Tablets) whereas Lab made it harder for him overall, at the tradeoff of giving him higher potential points via more finished sets.  When I remembered the extra 3VP per finished set, that actually made Lab better for him... but I had miscalculated again!  Without School, he had no access to Academy because he only had access to 2 Stone!

So basically I spent way too long thinking about which green to deny.

[Davio]

Thanks, eHalc! 

Oh, and sorry in advance for my next build. 

I'm curious about the results. I mean, calculating stuff in advance only gives a general idea, but there may have been some crucial discards this penultimate round.

[Tables]

I believe I'm only waiting on Galzria and Kuildeous (at least I can't see your moves in my PMs...)

[Galzria]

I believe I'm only waiting on Galzria and Kuildeous (at least I can't see your moves in my PMs...)

I sent them quite awhile back. Will resend.

[Kuildeous]

I believe I'm only waiting on Galzria and Kuildeous (at least I can't see your moves in my PMs...)

I sent them quite awhile back. Will resend.

Same here.

[Davio]

Update!

[Tables]

We're not done yet!

Kuildeous - Discard for 3 coins
eHalcyon - Discard for 3 coins
Galzria - Discard for 3 coins. Then discard for 3 coins
mith - Discard for 3 coins
Qvist - Discard for 3 coins
Davio - Builder's Union: 4 VPs, everyone elses loses 1 coin per wonder stage built. Cost: Brick, Wood, Papyrus, Glass. (Pays Qvist 0 coins for papyrus. Everyone loses coins. Gets 2 coins from leader)
Insomniac - Builds Wonder stage 3. Plays Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins. (Pays Davio 2 coins to build wonder. Pays 1 coin for Solomon)


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 10
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields
Circus: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card

Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet
Observatory: Gear
Study: Gear
University: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 25
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

Senate: 6 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Lodge: Compasses

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Courtesan's Guild: [Midas] 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 3: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. [Courtesan token]

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 18
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities

Barracks: 1 Shield
Arsenal: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 25
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder Complete!
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP


Insomniac has the discard pile. I believe he does still have choices in what he does, there's no flat 'this is best' option.

[Tables]

In the meantime point out the inevitable mistakes.

[Davio]

Well, just to make it clear, my card is resolved after building the stage, so Insomniac needs to pay €3. Lucky mith pays €0!

[eHalcyon]

I made a couple of mistakes.  In particular:

- early on I didn't realize we could do other things with our leaders.  I thought it was either recruit or ignore.  But you could also use them to build wonders or discard them for coin!  If I had realized that earlier, I would not have recruited Sappo and, at one point in Age I, I probably would have built Guard Tower.  That single GT would have made a big enough difference to enable me to compete with Kuild in military.

Age II hand 1 I had to choose between Forum and Caravansery.  I ended up choosing the latter, but I think I should have gone with Forum.

Generally speaking, buying Contingent was also a mistake.  The purpose was to try to beat Kuild, but it didn't come to fruition.  It was too expensive to be worth it.  It would have been better for me to do something else and then use that money to recruit my last leader (which would have been Cleopatra).

In the last two hands of this age I discarded for coin when I should have just build military and earned a few extra points by scooping the military win.  I thought Kuild was going to chain a red though, so I thought it would have been pointless.

In the end, it didn't matter -- for me to win I needed Insomniac to beat Davio in military, plus several other things... eh.

Overall though, I think my play was pretty good.  I got unlikely in Age III, seeing the best cards for me all grouped together, resulting in several worthless hands.

[Tables]

Well, just to make it clear, my card is resolved after building the stage, so Insomniac needs to pay €3. Lucky mith pays €0!

I believe I've already resolved it. Then again Insomn has enough coins that's he's gonna discard coins, no questions asked.

[Kuildeous]

In the last two hands of this age I discarded for coin when I should have just build military and earned a few extra points by scooping the military win.  I thought Kuild was going to chain a red though, so I thought it would have been pointless.

Well, if it matters, I was focusing on winning military. When you have Rhodes, you kind of feel obligated to do so. But I had motivation to keep up on military. My Age III victories are worth 7 VPs, so no matter what you did with military, I was going to try to stay on top. If you made different decisions, so would I. But you had the advantage of removing cards from my hand, so it wasn't a great fight for me.

In general, focusing too much on military can be a losing proposition. I tried to mete out my military efficiently and tried not to build more than I had to.

[Kuildeous]

PS, I pay my debt with coin. I'm guessing there's no reason for anybody to voluntarily accept debt.

[eHalcyon]

In the last two hands of this age I discarded for coin when I should have just build military and earned a few extra points by scooping the military win.  I thought Kuild was going to chain a red though, so I thought it would have been pointless.

Well, if it matters, I was focusing on winning military. When you have Rhodes, you kind of feel obligated to do so. But I had motivation to keep up on military. My Age III victories are worth 7 VPs, so no matter what you did with military, I was going to try to stay on top. If you made different decisions, so would I. But you had the advantage of removing cards from my hand, so it wasn't a great fight for me.

In general, focusing too much on military can be a losing proposition. I tried to mete out my military efficiently and tried not to build more than I had to.

I know this, and I knew that I would have the advantage in Age III.  I was just watching out for an opportunity to get the jump on you.  With a Guard Tower, it would have been a little easier.

[eHalcyon]

Come on Ins, go grab that Contingent and stick it to Davio even though he wins anyway.

[Insomniac]

Come on Ins, go grab that Contingent and stick it to Davio even though he wins anyway.

Contigent is 5VP for me (3, and I miss out on getting -2'd) but Town Hall is in there and its 6 for me.

[eHalcyon]

Come on Ins, go grab that Contingent and stick it to Davio even though he wins anyway.

Contigent is 5VP for me (3, and I miss out on getting -2'd) but Town Hall is in there and its 6 for me.

Hmm?  The military win is worth 5VP, and no negative means it is net 6VP.  Plus it denies Davio a few points.

I feel OK talking about this because I think Davio wins regardless.

[Tables]

Contingent is by some definition the superior, as it gives the same points while taking 7 points away from Davio. That said, it doesn't affect positions at all, so it's really moot.

Military resolved. I'm sure you can all follow what happened without me spelling it out (hint: Look at the 5VP tokens).


Kuildeous as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 10
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Quarry: Produce two Stone
Foundry: Produce two Ore
Loom: Produce Cloth

Wonder stage 1: 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins
Wonder stage 2: 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins

Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.

Palace: 8 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card

Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token

Stockade: 1 Shield
Walls: 2 Shields
Training Ground: 2 Shields
Circus: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age III Victory: 5 VPs
Age III Victory: 5 VPs

Score from coins: 4VPs
Score from wonder: 7VPs
Score from Leaders: 11VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 8VPs
Score from science/green cards: 0VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 5VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 11VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 0VPs
Score from military: 18VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 64VPs


eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 3: 5 VPs
Wonder stage 4: 7 VPs

Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource
Sappo: 2 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Temple: 3 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Palace: 8 VPs

Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card

Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city

Walls: 2 Shields
Mercenaries: 3 Shields

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Defeat: -1 VP
Age III Victory: 5 VPs

Score from coins: 8VPs
Score from wonder: 20VPs
Score from Leaders: 2VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 18VPs
Score from science/green cards: 0VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 4VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 2VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 4VPs
Score from military: 5VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 63VPs


Galzria as the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 8th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: Can use 8th age card instead of discarding
Wonder stage 3: Tablet/Compasses/Gear

Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.

Altar: 2 VPs

Workshop: Gear
Scriptorium: Tablet
Library: Tablet
Laboratory: Gear
Ptolemy: Tablet
Observatory: Gear
Study: Gear
University: Tablet

Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

Score from coins: 3VPs
Score from wonder: 3VPs
Score from Leaders: 3VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 2VPs
Score from science/green cards: 40VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 0VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 0VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 0VPs
Score from military: -6VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 45VPs


mith as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 25
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Stone
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Sawmill: Produce two Wood
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.

Senate: 6 VPs

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right
Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities

Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs

Lodge: Compasses

Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Courtesan's Guild: [Midas] 1 VP per three coins owned.

Stockade: 1 Shield
Guard Tower: 1 Shield
Stables: 2 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age II Victory: 3 VPs
Age III Victory: 5 VPs
Age III Victory: 5 VPs

Score from coins: 8VPs
Score from wonder: 0VPs
Score from Leaders: 3VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 6VPs
Score from science/green cards: 0VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 0VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 4VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 16VPs
Score from military: 18VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 55VPs


Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick
Press: Produce Payrus
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce two Brick

Wonder stage 1: 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 2: 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free
Wonder stage 3: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free

Varro: 1 VP per yellow card
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. [Courtesan token]

Baths: 3 VPs
Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Pawnshop: 3 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Tavern: 5 Coins
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this)
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins

Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

Score from coins: 8VPs
Score from wonder: 3VPs
Score from Leaders: 18VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 21VPs
Score from science/green cards: 0VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 12VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 5VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 10VPs
Score from military: -4VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 73VPs


Davio as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A)
Coins: 18
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Wonder stages built: Wonder complete!
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore

Wonder stage 1: 3 VPs
Wonder stage 2: 2 VPs, diplomacy
Wonder stage 3: 7 VPs

Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Zenobia: 3 VPs
Darius: 1 VP per black card.

Aqueduct: 5 VPs
Courthouse: 4 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs

Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed

Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce

Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities

Barracks: 1 Shield
Arsenal: 3 Shields

Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age I Victory: 1 VP
Age III Victory: 5 VP
Age III Victory: 5 VP

Score from coins: 6VPs
Score from wonder: 12VPs
Score from Leaders: 7VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 20VPs
Score from science/green cards: 0VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 3VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 0VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 21VPs
Score from military: 12VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 81VPs


Insomniac as the Colloseum of Rome (B)
Coins: 25
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: Wonder Complete!
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours leaders cost 1 less.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Loom: Produce Cloth
Press: Produce Payrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass

Wonder stage 1: 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders
Wonder stage 2: 3 VPs, you may play a leader
Wonder stage 3: 3 VPs, you may play a leader

Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.

Theater: 2 VPs
Temple: 3 VPs
Statue: 4 VPs
Pantheon: 7 VPs
Senate: 6 VPs
Gardens: 5 VPs
Town Hall: 6 VPs

Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card

Library: Tablet

Tabularium: 6 VPs

Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities

Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP
Defeat: -1 VP

Score from coins: 8VPs
Score from wonder: 6VPs
Score from Leaders: 6VPs
Score from civil/blue cards: 33VPs
Score from science/green cards: 0VPs
Score from economic/yellow cards: 6VPs
Score from Cities/black cards: 6VPs
Score from guilds/purple cards: 7VPs
Score from military: -6VPs
GRAND TOTAL: 66VPs

Final chance to check for errors, there's probably some!

7th: Galzria with 45VPs
6th: mith with 55VPs
5th: eHalcyon with 63VPs
4th: Kuildeous with 64VPs
3rd: Insomniac with 66VPs
2nd: Qvist with 73VPs
1st: Davio with 81VPs

If Insomn had built Contingent, Davio would lose 6 points from military and 1 from his guild, lowering his score to a single point victory over Qvist .

Good game everyone, very close in the middle there! Hope you all enjoyed it.

[Insomniac]

Come on Ins, go grab that Contingent and stick it to Davio even though he wins anyway.

Contigent is 5VP for me (3, and I miss out on getting -2'd) but Town Hall is in there and its 6 for me.

Hmm?  The military win is worth 5VP, and no negative means it is net 6VP.  Plus it denies Davio a few points.

I feel OK talking about this because I think Davio wins regardless.

nah the Contingent itself is 3vp, not losing to davio means its 4, not losing to kuilde means its 5 vp for me. denying Davio 5 pts (but kuildeous none). Since I'm in 4th my goal is to ensure I beat Kuildeous and I would prefer to do it in a way that doesn't king make you (eHalc) and Qvist.

[eHalcyon]

Ahhh, if I had played military at the end there, I think I could have squeaked into third.

Come on Ins, go grab that Contingent and stick it to Davio even though he wins anyway.

Contigent is 5VP for me (3, and I miss out on getting -2'd) but Town Hall is in there and its 6 for me.

Hmm?  The military win is worth 5VP, and no negative means it is net 6VP.  Plus it denies Davio a few points.

I feel OK talking about this because I think Davio wins regardless.

nah the Contingent itself is 3vp, not losing to davio means its 4, not losing to kuilde means its 5 vp for me. denying Davio 5 pts (but kuildeous none). Since I'm in 4th my goal is to ensure I beat Kuildeous and I would prefer to do it in a way that doesn't king make you (eHalc) and Qvist.

Huh?

Contingent itself is not worth any VP -- it is worth 5 Shields.

A Military victory in Age III is worth 5VP.  Getting Contingent lets you beat Davio, so that is worth net 6VP (since you also don't get -1VP from losing).

You actually lose to Kuildeous either way, so that doesn't matter.



Oh, perhaps you are mixing up Contingent with the Age III Diplomacy card?  Embassy, I think?  Contingent is the massive military card.

[Tables]

here is the spreadsheet. Like normal, it's not that exciting - I guess you can see everyone's unused leader(s), and I also noted who discarded what and when so that's something I guess.

[eHalcyon]

Ins, why did you discard Scientists Guild?  Nobody wanted that anyway!

Qvist buried the Lighthouse I wanted!

The leader I discarded in Age III was the one that makes green cards cost 1 resource less.  I decided it was too powerful to let Galz have in Age I, so I passed him the "3VP per green set" leader instead.

[Insomniac]

Ins, why did you discard Scientists Guild?  Nobody wanted that anyway!

Qvist buried the Lighthouse I wanted!

The leader I discarded in Age III was the one that makes green cards cost 1 resource less.  I decided it was too powerful to let Galz have in Age I, so I passed him the "3VP per green set" leader instead.

I buried the scientists guild incase there was nothing better I could make my tablets worth 4 (it was a guaranteed 3) that denied it from Galz.

[eHalcyon]

Ins, why did you discard Scientists Guild?  Nobody wanted that anyway!

Qvist buried the Lighthouse I wanted!

The leader I discarded in Age III was the one that makes green cards cost 1 resource less.  I decided it was too powerful to let Galz have in Age I, so I passed him the "3VP per green set" leader instead.

I buried the scientists guild incase there was nothing better I could make my tablets worth 4 (it was a guaranteed 3) that denied it from Galz.

In anticipation of Solomon, ahh.



Here is my QT -- it's long.

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/iDAgL3xUT5YjL



Good game, everyone.

[mith]

Not that it matters, but I should have 59 - The lone science card is worth 1, and I'm missing my 4 coins from Nero which is worth another 3.

Congrats, Davio!

[Galzria]

I stopped my QT updates pretty much once Age III hit. My choices were pretty straightforward. Build my Greens when I could, discard otherwise to try and fund the ones that came up later:

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/kr38M3HbwrR

[Davio]

Good game everyone!

I had indeed realized that Insom could very well build the Contingent.
In fact it was in my first hand, so I knew he might get it in his last hand.
I didn't realize he would use Solomon to build it though, but he's of course right to go for his own points instead of trying to diminish the leader's score.

Now for some reflection.

This was my first game with Cities and I did not know what to expect from it. But when I got both Diocletian ($2 for every black card) and Darius (1 VP for every black card) I knew I was going to focus on black cards at first.

I don't know how to define the black cards, they feel a bit "shady" if you know what I mean. The double Clandestine docks allowed me to buy any resource from any neighbor for a one-time $1 discount. My Secret Warehouse acted as an almost Caravansery as it provided an extra Stone, Brick or Ore, and it was an Age I card whereas Caravansery is an Age II card. Not too shabby! I was overjoyed when I got to build both the Caravansery and the Black Market in Age II. The Black Market especially allowed me to produce Wood, Cloth, Papyrus and Glass, kind of like a Forum+. Again, not too shabby ey?

Once I built the Black Market I created a spreadsheet and realized I could build nearly every card from Age III for $0. It's so powerful to be able to build anything that comes your way. You can see that I didn't discard for coins once and I built a 5 VP+ card (if we include Arsenal) every single time in Age III.

I'll list them in the order I built them:
Builders Guild: 9 VP
Town Hall: 6 VP
Arena: 6 VP (if we include coins)
Gardens: 5 VP
Magistrates Guild: 12 VP
Arsenal: 5 VP
Builders Union: 5 VP (including the point from my leader)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Total: 48 VP

The Magistrates Guild was huge and I was overjoyed when I saw it.

Once I built the Black Market from hand 3 in Age II I was basically done building resources and I could just focus on pure VPs. If I subtract my yet to build 2 Wonder stages that's 9 free picks!

In hand 4 of Age II I chose a Bazaar (6 coins) over a Temple (3 VP). This is because with the Cities cards, I could unexpectedly lose coins and this could ruin my plans. I couldn't afford to go in debt. In hindsight I could have perhaps gotten away with the Temple, but it wasn't worth the risk at that point.


So that's a bit of my strategy, which in short came down to: Build some resource production with black cards and yellow cards; I could get 1 Manufactured good for free each turn with my Marketplace+Clandestine Dock combo. Then: Simply build VP.

With regards to my wonder, Byzantium, this was my first time playing with it and I didn't really see the point of Diplomacy so I chose side A which only has 1 Diplomacy and 3 stages instead of 2 Diplomacy with 2 stages. Heck, my neighbors didn't bother with military, so I felt I might have wasted some points by building the second stage. Still, I needed to to get to the third stage.

Black cards in general added a lot of excitement for me, especially the cards that force you to lose coins. You have to be constantly aware of them and ask yourself if it's really worth the risk to drop down to very few coins, hoping no opponent builds such a card. The leaders I got set the tone for me to dive headfirst into the unknown. In the end, the combination of Clandestine Docks + Secret Warehouse + Black Market was amazing for me.

I don't mind that these cards have the ability to throw a big wrench into your precious engine, I think they add some fun excitement. 7 Wonders for me is already a game of optimizing your choices in a way that you have to let as few good cards as you can slip past. Black cards intensify the decision-making. "Will he build the Contingent or not?" "Will he cause me to lose coins or not?"

I hadn't touched on my neighbors yet, but they were very helpful to me in this game, unwillingly of course. Insomniac with Rome let met save $3 on leaders. This doesn't seem like much, but I wasn't playing with Ephesos here and really needed to balance my checkbook well in the first two Ages. Qvist with Halikarnassos provided a lot of resources for me, it was pretty funny to keep buying Cloth for $0 over and over again. And both didn't do much with military allowing me to grab an easy 12 VP with just 2 red cards. Heck, I could have done it with just the Barracks perhaps, but I couldn't risk Qvist overtaking me. Also they built a lot of cards which caused my Guild cards to be worth a lot. The Builders Guild was an easy 9 VP, the Magistrates Guild was huge, but I could have also built the Craftsmen Guild (2 VP for neighbors gray cards) for 8 VP, the Diplomats Guild (1 VP per neighbor leader) for 8 VP, the Strategists Guild (1 VP per neighbor defeat token) for 10 VP and the Workers Guild (1 VP per neighbor brown card) for 7 VP. So there were really a lot of high VP options for me due to my neighbors.

I haven't seen my highest possible non-Guild scorer unfortunately which was the Capitol (8 VP). Due to my leader it would give me 9 VP.


All in all I think I got decently lucky with my picks and seating position, but I also believe I made the most of them as you have to do in this game. I don't think I "wasted" a single turn by choosing a suboptimal structure. Every single pick proved its worth over the course of the game. My black, yellow and brown cards created an unstoppable resource beast while all of the Age III blue, black and purple cards I could build were 5+ VP each.


I would like to thank Tables for hosting and you all for playing.
I don't know if it's a coincidence that Qvist and I both got a first and a second in both of these games, but we'll see in the Team game where we are joined at the hip. After these games, we can only lose of course.

[Qvist]

This time I didn't track any VP and I'm surprised that I'm second. I thought I did much worse.
I couldn't decide which "route" to go for. Originally I wanted to go for Science, but the Leaders weren't that great for that.
So I decided to decide from turn to turn.

Maybe I could have even won if I would have won Military over Davio and not going for Diplomacy, but it's hard to tell now.

Good game everyone, http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/hCBNQwFhJUCA

[eHalcyon]

 but he's of course right to go for his own points instead of trying to diminish the leader's score.

I agree, but since he could have gotten the same points AND hurt the leader, that would have been more correct. 

I still can't believe your neighbours let you have both Secret Warehouse and Black Market!

[Davio]

but he's of course right to go for his own points instead of trying to diminish the leader's score.

I agree, but since he could have gotten the same points AND hurt the leader, that would have been more correct. 

I still can't believe your neighbours let you have both Secret Warehouse and Black Market!

Me either, but maybe everyone had the same trouble accurately assessing the black cards? I mainly chose them because of my Leaders, but they turned out pretty great in hindsight, especially when using them in tandem with other useful cards.

@Qvist: The problem with you going for military in AIII was that I am passing to you and I already had 1 strength. So even if you did build one 3 Shield card, I could still trump you with one myself. That's quite an efficient deterrent.

[eHalcyon]

but he's of course right to go for his own points instead of trying to diminish the leader's score.

I agree, but since he could have gotten the same points AND hurt the leader, that would have been more correct. 

I still can't believe your neighbours let you have both Secret Warehouse and Black Market!

Me either, but maybe everyone had the same trouble accurately assessing the black cards? I mainly chose them because of my Leaders, but they turned out pretty great in hindsight, especially when using them in tandem with other useful cards.

Haha, well, if you read my Age II commentary, I went on and on about wanting the Black Market.

[Davio]

I read it, but not very closely, just the important parts.

I'm also being a bit too simplistic here, my leaders weren't the only reason, I found out after the first few, the Clandestine Docks, that they actually had a great deal of potential.

But they did combo perfectly with the rest of my resource cards as it turned out.
I didn't build any grey so my BM was a makeshift Forum. Then again I didn't have Wood, so it was in fact a Forum + Wood for the same number of resources (2 Brick vs. Ore + Cloth). Because I had 3 brown resources, my Secret Warehouse functioned as 3/4 Caravansery. It was "just" 2 coins, but free for me with Diocletian and having it appear an Age earlier is also a pretty big deal, pretty much freeing another pick in the following Ages.

I wasn't too keen on the Diplomacy cards, but I think they're more important in the team game. With single player you're just saving yourself from losing 2 VP with your neighbors going about their business. It's hard to control both neighbors. With the team game, getting Diplomacy not only saves 1 VP for yourself, but also up to 5 VP for your neighbor, that's pretty harsh.

And to add for Qvist: I love an early red card which signals to your opponent: "If you're going to tie me, I will just build another and you will still lose. This doesn't help either of us, so you're better off not trying to overtake me." Of course the funky black cards can spice this up as well, Contingent for 5 shields, kablooie!

Meddling with green cards is like trying to shoot the moon in Hearts, you either win big or lose big. I was amazed that Galz didn't score higher as it appeared he was the only one serious about green. The greens leave you with so few other options though if your neighbors are screwing you over. I don't like to depend on neighbors screwing me over or giving me good cards. I want my neighbors to think: "Okay, I can't do anything about it, he can either build this for 6 VP or this for 7 VP while I have to build this myself for 5 VP" Having options is huuuuuge and after I had my resources complete there could have been some good cards denied for me, but I think I still would have made a good showing. Maybe first, maybe second, maybe third, but still good.

[eHalcyon]

I denied Galz green a few times, but I don't think I passed over better options for myself when I did so.  It helped that Galz himself didn't have enough resources or money to build everything he wanted.  In Age II, I was happy to pass him Dispensary knowing he didn't have enough money to build it that turn.  In Age III, his and mith's lack of stone made it impossible for him to get Academy.  I was worried about his scoring potential though, since he had no competitor in green.  I seriously considered going green at the end of Age I.

[Galzria]

I denied Galz green a few times, but I don't think I passed over better options for myself when I did so.  It helped that Galz himself didn't have enough resources or money to build everything he wanted.  In Age II, I was happy to pass him Dispensary knowing he didn't have enough money to build it that turn.  In Age III, his and mith's lack of stone made it impossible for him to get Academy.  I was worried about his scoring potential though, since he had no competitor in green.  I seriously considered going green at the end of Age I.

I think you were overly concerned, tbh. Even if I got -everything- I wanted and needed (3 more Compasses, essentially), that would've only been an additional 45 points. (13, 15, 17 each) - and the odds of me getting each and every card in Age III, even if I could chain from Age II, in hands that allowed me to build were very slim. Had you given me the School instead, it would've cost me the Gear for Age II, and the Gear for Age III. Now, I built the Study anyway - but that would've put me at 3 Gears instead of 4 (with no way to get a 4th). That means that even if I chained to the Academy, and managed to build the Lodge, I would've ended with:

4 Tablets, 3 Gears, 3 Compasses - and that was the best I was ever going to do, even if you gave me everything I wanted in Age II, AND I got everything I needed in Age III. And that combined is only 65 points (10x3 + 16 + 9 + 9). In the end, it didn't really matter what you did or did not deny me in Age II. There was no way for me to get BOTH the School AND the Laboratory because the hands they came in always contained other options (At least, Lab #1 and School #1 did). And EVEN if I could've gotten both, that would STILL leave me a Compass short of 4 sets because there was no way for me to build the Scientists Guild.

And EVEN EVEN if I could've gotten ALL of that. 4 Tablets, 4 Gears, 4 Compasses. That's 10x4 + 16x3 = 88 points. Throw in my 2 VP for my Alter, and 3 from my Wonder (0 for coins, because lets be honest, I wouldn't HAVE any coins left after somehow managing to get everything listed), and then subtract 6 for Military losses, and that puts me at 87 VP - JUST barely enough to eeeeeeeek out the win.

And that's so completely unrealistic it's ridiculous. I never had a chance at winning this one.

[eHalcyon]

Yeah, I was too concerned.  It wasn't entirely unrealistic though.  I don't know how many points people are going to end with, and 65 is a heckuva lot.  Three complete sets were worth 57 to you.  Four complete sets would have been worth 88.  Don't forget that leader I gave you.

Also, there were some scenarios where you could have gotten more points by using your wonder to just heavily stack Tablets.  That would have been viable for you if I had given you School.

[Galzria]

Yeah, I was too concerned.  It wasn't entirely unrealistic though.  I don't know how many points people are going to end with, and 65 is a heckuva lot.  Three complete sets were worth 57 to you.  Four complete sets would have been worth 88.  Don't forget that leader I gave you.

Also, there were some scenarios where you could have gotten more points by using your wonder to just heavily stack Tablets.  That would have been viable for you if I had given you School.

I said 88! Read my post!

And no, stacking Tablets was never really going to work. Assume I can get the 3 (one for each Age). Plus the 1 for my leader is 4. Now throw in the School. That puts me at 5. That's 25 points on Tablets. My Wonder would add a 6th, for 11 points. The first Compass was worth 11 points. And any I got after that went up and up. Even if I can hit the 6th there, AND get the Scientists Guild for a 7th, that puts me at 49 points total on Tablets. Compare that to 5 Tablets (25 points), and 2 Compasses (4 points) PLUS 2 complete sets (20 points) = 49 points.

Stacking Tablets was NEVER going to give me more than just plopping down Compasses was (It was exactly the same after 5 however. As 6 gave me +11 (same as 1 Compass), and 7 gave me +13 from there (same as a second Compass), and 8 gave me +15 from THERE (same as a third Compass) etc...)

[eHalcyon]

I think the Tablets scenario was for giving you School instead of Lab.  That leaves you one Gear less and also makes at least one Age III Gear impossible for you to get.  It meant that you were limited to 2 complete sets at most (you can buy 1 Gear and 2 Compasses but then your wonder can only add to one of them) so it would be more worthwhile to just make it a Tablet.

I don't remember now.  It was a tough choice at the time.

[Kuildeous]

It's hard to gauge just how much of a threat a science-builder can be. There have been many games where science racks up a lot of points, and that kind of memory doesn't just go away. I know when we bring out the game, we eye the science-builder warily and often work to deny them those cards--normally not to the detriment to ourselves, but I can't speak to the intent of the other players.

So, I'd say that concern about Galz was not wholly unwarranted. Maybe it was more than it should have been, but nobody wants to underestimate their neighbors.

[eHalcyon]

I was actually most worried about Davio and Qvist the whole time, but they were too far away for me to do much about.

In the middle of Age III when I said I had predicted a winner, that winner was Davio.  I picked him because I knew he had good cards heading his way (Magistrates Guild in particular).

[Tables]

I've found that if you focus single mindedly on science, you rarely win. A good case example was a game where me and a neighbour both did heavy science, both making three sets in age III. I also had a modest pile of money, and some military, and a few points elsewhere, while he had Aristotle (3 VPs per science set), but debt and loss tokens. Despite our similar primary focus, I won the game, and he came about 5th, because those extra points (or losses) really swing things around.

[Davio]

I wonder if it's useful to just go with 1 set for 10 VP but 3.3 VP per card just seems so low compared to the hard hitters of AIII. Even AII blues provide 3-5 VP and some black cards also give more.

[Tables]

You can make 1 set over ages I and II though. The age I ones also chain to a couple of useful cards.