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[gman314]

What are some silly mistakes you always make, always remind yourself not to make and then make again at the next opportunity?

I always have to remind myself that while Wharf is a good card and Menagerie is a good card, the two don't exactly go well together 

[HiveMindEmulator]

Fairgrounds != Farmland.

[GendoIkari]

Before you start to go for whatever Bridge-supported strategy you're planning, check and see if Native Village is on the board... seriously, I've played at least a few games where I suddenly saw Native Village-Bridge several turns into the game.

[Drab Emordnilap]

Play all treasure
Play Quarry
Fail to buy Grand Market

[unlinked]

Twice recently I bought a Quarry thinking it was a Talisman.

[HiveMindEmulator]

Forgetting to use spare buys on Peddlers

[GendoIkari]

Forgetting to use spare buys on Peddlers

Also forgetting to click "Buy Phase" when playing a turn with no Treasures in hand.

[Wingnut]

Want to use all coins including copper when Grand Market is in play but forget to play the copper. Actually cost me a game last night (lost by one point and left two coppers and a buy in hand twice)

[AdamH]

I'll see a combo on the board and go for it, not giving a second thought to look for counters to that combo.

NV and Bridge are available? GO FOR IT!

Bishop and extra trashing are available? GO FOR IT!

...Yeah, you thought that was gonna be Militia, didn't you? Nope, when I fail, I fail BIG!

[Beyond Awesome]

I keep forgetting Sir Martin cost $4 and not $5.

[heron]

Tactician/Vault, discarding too many cards.
Just happened yesterday.

[sudgy]

NV and Bridge are available? GO FOR IT!

I had an opponent possess my hand and pulled off the combo...  Ugh...

[werothegreat]

I always fuck up when to reshuffle.  When I want to buy an Action, I always end up triggering the shuffle, and I never end up triggering it when I buy a Victory card.

[Piemaster]

Playing a Watchtower for 1 card at the end of a turn, just because, forgetting about the option to use it to put cards I buy on top of my deck.

[Polk5440]

Mine is not Mint

[Jimmmmm]

When I have a Throne Room, two Ambassadors and no other actions in hand, I always accidentally give away an Ambassador.

[unlinked]

When I have a Throne Room, two Ambassadors and no other actions in hand, I always accidentally give away an Ambassador.

Did that's this morning.  Oops

[Kuildeous]

Mine is not Mint

Then what is it?

[Polk5440]

Mine is not Mint

Then what is it?

*groan*

I sometimes buy Mine thinking I will trash 5 Coppers and then am very sad when it doesn't happen or buy Mint thinking it was Mine and lose out on some nice treasures (but I haven't done that one in a while).

[eHalcyon]

I have a bigger problem with Scavenger/Salvager.

[Destierro]

I keep forgetting Sir Martin cost $4 and not $5.

You just blew my mind. I never even realized that.

[werothegreat]

The first couple times playing with Graverobber IRL, I kept forgetting to put the trash-gained card on top of my deck.

[gman314]

When playing IRL, my Caravans have a good chance of doing pretty much nothing.

[Frosted]

If I play less than 3 Highways I will not even remember that they lower the cost of things.

Never have that problem with Bridge. I think it's the non-terminal thing. It just makes me lazy.

[Grujah]

Forgeting to check if there are actually any villages in kingdom when I see things like Scrying Pool + Goons and go for them blindly.

[gman314]

When playing in veto mode and you don't veto last, planning your strategy and then blindly going for it before realizing that a key component has been vetoed.

[Morgrim7]

Building a great engine and realizing that Possession was on the board the hard way.

[shMerker]

Trashing my potion because I already have all the Alchemists I need.

[soulnet]

I don't know if they qualify as silly, I certainly feel silly when I do it, but I overtrash and overbuild A LOT.

[ehunt]

yesterday i played a fun game with fishing village, duchess, duke, and caravan. we both went for duchies early, and took the free duchesses (something I would do even without fishing village but which I think is undebate-ably the right move with fishing villages).

many times in the game i'd have loads of extra actions (from having played fishing villages the turn before) and blindly play my caravans, when I could instead have used duchess to check if i was drawing a bad card or not. the most frustrating part was that I did this at least twice even after realizing that I was making a mistake.

basically, the top four reasons i will never be a top ten dominion player:
1. playing on autopilot like this
2. trying to make fun but bad cards work
3. ragequitting when there's a 20% chance of winning
4. obi wan bonogi

[kn1tt3r]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

[achmed_sender]

I always try to find a n edge case to make scout work

*Switching to serious mode* Maybe try to build an engine when theres no engine possible ( in most cases because of lack of draw in my case)
And yes the farmland example, i just forget it all the times to use it in lategame

[Jimmmmm]

Today I played a Followers (which I passed to myself via Possession/Masquerade, but that's another story) after playing 4 Council Rooms and a Possession. Also, the Curses were gone and I'd drawn my whole deck, so I wasted it all for a measly Estate.

[Grujah]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

Unless that is definetely your last shuffle, buying Province is better than Farmlanding a Gold.

[eHalcyon]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

Unless that is definetely your last shuffle, buying Province is better than Farmlanding a Gold.

Unless you have no need for the Gold and/or you REALLY need the extra 2VP in a tight race.

But yeah, buying Province is usually better.

[GendoIkari]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

Unless that is definetely your last shuffle, buying Province is better than Farmlanding a Gold.

Unless you have no need for the Gold and/or you REALLY need the extra 2VP in a tight race.

But yeah, buying Province is usually better.

That's what I thought, but when I made a similar comment, it was debated... http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5159.msg123995#msg123995

[Stealth Tomato]

4. obi wan bonogi

+1

[GendoIkari]

yesterday i played a fun game with fishing village, duchess, duke, and caravan. we both went for duchies early, and took the free duchesses (something I would do even without fishing village but which I think is undebate-ably the right move with fishing villages).

many times in the game i'd have loads of extra actions (from having played fishing villages the turn before) and blindly play my caravans, when I could instead have used duchess to check if i was drawing a bad card or not. the most frustrating part was that I did this at least twice even after realizing that I was making a mistake.

basically, the top four reasons i will never be a top ten dominion player:
1. playing on autopilot like this
2. trying to make fun but bad cards work
3. ragequitting when there's a 20% chance of winning
4. obi wan bonogi

Assuming you weren't drawing your deck... Duchess only helps when the top card of your deck is bad, right? The odds of the top card of your deck being bad is the same as the odds of the second-to-top card of your deck being bad. So as many times as you drew a bad card because you played Caravan before playing Duchess, you also saved yourself from drawing a bad card for your next hand by playing Caravan before Duchess...

Granted, cards now are generally going to be worth a bit more than cards next turn, but as a whole, it doesn't seem horrible to play your Duchess second; so long as you still play it.

[ehunt]

yesterday i played a fun game with fishing village, duchess, duke, and caravan. we both went for duchies early, and took the free duchesses (something I would do even without fishing village but which I think is undebate-ably the right move with fishing villages).

many times in the game i'd have loads of extra actions (from having played fishing villages the turn before) and blindly play my caravans, when I could instead have used duchess to check if i was drawing a bad card or not. the most frustrating part was that I did this at least twice even after realizing that I was making a mistake.

basically, the top four reasons i will never be a top ten dominion player:
1. playing on autopilot like this
2. trying to make fun but bad cards work
3. ragequitting when there's a 20% chance of winning
4. obi wan bonogi

Assuming you weren't drawing your deck... Duchess only helps when the top card of your deck is bad, right? The odds of the top card of your deck being bad is the same as the odds of the second-to-top card of your deck being bad. So as many times as you drew a bad card because you played Caravan before playing Duchess, you also saved yourself from drawing a bad card for your next hand by playing Caravan before Duchess...

Granted, cards now are generally going to be worth a bit more than cards next turn, but as a whole, it doesn't seem horrible to play your Duchess second; so long as you still play it.

Good point. I forgot to consider the next turn. I do think from an information-standpoint it's still best to play duchess first (e.g. the copper I'm about to draw could be the fifth copper I need for a Duke; on the other hand the copper I am saving for next turn is probably good but might be bad if it's preventing me from drawing a silver). But it's less of a mistake than I was saying.

[yudantaiteki]

I have a bigger problem with Scavenger/Salvager.

Courtyard/Crossroads for me.

[NoMoreFun]

I always buy the first Province/Colony if I can afford it, even when it contradicts my strategy.

Also I confuse Expand and Forge.

[philosophyguy]

I'm still having a problem remembering that Mercenary draws when you trash, and I always use my last action on it rather than playing it earlier, when I have spare actions.

[HiveMindEmulator]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

Unless that is definetely your last shuffle, buying Province is better than Farmlanding a Gold.

Unless you have no need for the Gold and/or you REALLY need the extra 2VP in a tight race.

But yeah, buying Province is usually better.

Depends on what you mean by "usually". You buy the Farmland when you'd rather have Farmland than Gold, which is potentially a lot of the time in the late game. It's pretty similar to the question of Harem vs Gold. Farmland is a little worse than Harem since you can't spend the virtual $2 on anything but Provinces, but it's still better than Gold a lot of the time.

[eHalcyon]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

Unless that is definetely your last shuffle, buying Province is better than Farmlanding a Gold.

Unless you have no need for the Gold and/or you REALLY need the extra 2VP in a tight race.

But yeah, buying Province is usually better.

Depends on what you mean by "usually". You buy the Farmland when you'd rather have Farmland than Gold, which is potentially a lot of the time in the late game. It's pretty similar to the question of Harem vs Gold. Farmland is a little worse than Harem since you can't spend the virtual $2 on anything but Provinces, but it's still better than Gold a lot of the time.

But when would you rather have Farmland than Gold.  As per the earlier conversation, I think the main reasons would be if you won't see that card again and if the race is particularly tight and the 2VP is important.

What other reasons are there?

Silk Road, Fairgrounds?  Market Square to gain a replacement Gold?

[HiveMindEmulator]

I sometimes forget about the option to Farmland + Gold=>Province and just buy a Province with all my treasure.

Unless that is definetely your last shuffle, buying Province is better than Farmlanding a Gold.

Unless you have no need for the Gold and/or you REALLY need the extra 2VP in a tight race.

But yeah, buying Province is usually better.

Depends on what you mean by "usually". You buy the Farmland when you'd rather have Farmland than Gold, which is potentially a lot of the time in the late game. It's pretty similar to the question of Harem vs Gold. Farmland is a little worse than Harem since you can't spend the virtual $2 on anything but Provinces, but it's still better than Gold a lot of the time.

But when would you rather have Farmland than Gold.  As per the earlier conversation, I think the main reasons would be if you won't see that card again and if the race is particularly tight and the 2VP is important.

What other reasons are there?

Silk Road, Fairgrounds?  Market Square to gain a replacement Gold?

Basically what you said: you won't see it again multiple times, and you want the 2 VP. And also things that like VP cards, like Crossroads. But really, any time you have some consistency in your deck, if you're hitting $9 including a Gold, it might as well be a Farmland.

[Piemaster]

(dumb post, please ignore)

[kn1tt3r]

One stupid thing I sometimes do is to play Conspirators before my other 'activating' actions, especially when I have plenty of them (like in double Tact. decks).

[ftl]

I don't think your cases are quite right, piemaster. You mis-analyzed your case 3. If the gold is on top, then playing both duchess first and caravan first will give you $8 in hand, with the difference being whether the the estate gets discarded or not.

[Piemaster]

Hmmm, you're right, ignore my post.  That's what I get for trying to make an analytical post at 6am

[jaybeez]

Buying Estate with $3 or $4 in the very late game when Tunnel is on the board.  Buying Duchy with $6 when Fairgrounds is on the board (and would be worth 4 VP for me).

[Qvist]

Buying Estate with $3 or $4 in the very late game when Tunnel is on the board.  Buying Duchy with $6 when Fairgrounds is on the board (and would be worth 4 VP for me).

This happen to me less and less. But what happens to me: Buying Estate when Great Hall is available.

[WanderingWinder]

Buying Estate with $3 or $4 in the very late game when Tunnel is on the board.  Buying Duchy with $6 when Fairgrounds is on the board (and would be worth 4 VP for me).

This happen to me less and less. But what happens to me: Buying Estate when Great Hall is available.

I've done this before on purpose.

[ftl]

Running out estate pile? Baron?

[Qvist]

Buying Estate with $3 or $4 in the very late game when Tunnel is on the board.  Buying Duchy with $6 when Fairgrounds is on the board (and would be worth 4 VP for me).

This happen to me less and less. But what happens to me: Buying Estate when Great Hall is available.

I've done this before on purpose.

Yeah, of course, me too. Here I was ignoring Golem, Baron, three-piling and other edge cases.

[dghunter79]

Not buying Fairgrounds because I keep confusing it with Beargrounds.