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[Tables]

So I enjoy playing games by forum, but I also really enjoy running them. I don't know why. Maybe it's being able to see what lots of different people are doing from an objective standpoint, or heck, maybe I just enjoy helping people (...to destroy one another...).

So now I'm going to make an offer. I'm going to open this thread up to suggestions of games from people, that they would like to play a game of via forum, and hopefully I'll pick one (or even more than one, who can tell) and try to run it via forum. Of course, sometimes this won't be possible - if I can't find a cards list, for example. It might turn out that well nobody really has a game they want, that's fine as well, just means we don't get a game. But I'm hopeful that there'll be a game suggestion from someone, which I can find a copy of the rules and any necessary materials, and which other people are interested in, and if so, then I'll run a PBF of that game.

And there you have it. Go and have a think if necessary, but I'm happy to take any suggestion and at least find out if it's viable. If someone has an interesting enough game, I'd even be willing to try and run a prototype of a game.

[eHalcyon]

7 wonders could work.  To keep down on mod PMing, I would suggest a system like:

Mod starts age by PMing all players with their starting hands.
Players PM mod with their draft choice and confirm "choice made" in thread.
When all players have chosen, they post publicly in thread what they did and then PM the mod and player they pass to with the hand they get.  This way mod can keep players accountable but the mod doesn't have to send a bunch of PMs to everyone (though the mod would receive a bunch of PMs).

[Tables]

7 Wonders is definitely viable. I have easy access to card lists for base, leaders and/or cities, although probably going mad with expansions is... nah, you guys could handle it . Although probably just base is fine.

Edit: Just noticed you suggested this, oh, one minute before your post in the Non-mafia sticky as well . It's definitely one I'd be happy to try out and one I think we'd fine vict...unteers for. Volunteers for.

[Qvist]

I thought that's what the Non-Mafia Games Queue Thread is made for: To make suggestions. But we can have a separate thread for sure.
I'm happy to play any game by forum at least once because I cannot play different games in my gaming group that often.
I haven't played 7 Wonders so far although I know the basic rules of it. But I'm happy to join any game.

[Kuildeous]

I don't get to play enough of Ghost Stories at home. I *think* it might work okay as PBF.

I've been tempted to feel out the interest for Red November. I'm not sure I have the moxie to run a Ghost Stories game, though.

[Jimmmmm]

Kingdom Builder would probably work, in honour of the man who brought us all together.

[Grujah]

A Game of Thrones.
Battlestar Galactica.

I'd even host. There was no interest for agot, but bsg might work?

[Watno]

Terra Mystica and Dominant Species

[Qvist]

Taikyoku Shogi

 

[Tables]

Qvist: Sorry, I didn't know that was the intention of the topic  . I don't think the name really gave that away!

Ghost Stories is plausible, although IIRC there's a fair bit of dice rolling which might keep things slowed down a bit.
Red November looks like it could be done, if I can get a materials list.
Kingdom Builder, definitely a good idea, although I have to admit, I'm not so great with image manipulation and that does sound like it'd be something that wants to be done via images.
Game of Thrones, definitely could work, not my favourite game though but I have access to the card lists (2nd ed only). Probably another image difficulty one
BSG, for some reason, is definitely one I think I could manage. I can work around doing an awful lot with images, fortunately.
Terra Mystica, again, looks good but seems somewhat image heavy.
Dominant Species, same issue again pretty much, although that might be easier to work around.
Taikyoku Shogi... I'd rather not .

So far I think my favourite suggestions to run myself are 7 Wonders and BSG. I'll see what I can do about them.

[liopoil]

wait.... 7 wonders has expansions? 

[Archetype]

I would be interested in a 7 Wonders PBF. The drafting should work well (It did with DoMafia ) and publicly posting actions would probably be the best.

[Tables]

wait.... 7 wonders has expansions? 

Currently there are two expansions, two promo wonders, three promo leaders and two upcoming expansions. And supposedly another 4 expansions after that. (And I hope all those links are right )

Also I've started preparing stuff for the 7 Wonders PBF. I won't make a topic yet because I'd like to say how I'm going to run it, which I haven' quite worked out yet, but it's going to happen.

[Grujah]

Terra Mystica and Dominant Species

I'd liek to try dominant species as well.

[liopoil]

Terra Mystica and Dominant Species

I'd liek to try dominant species as well.

Seconded. Or thirded I guess. Probably my favorite game after dominion and chess. Insanely complex.

[Grujah]

Game of Thrones, definitely could work, not my favourite game though but I have access to the card lists (2nd ed only). Probably another image difficulty one
BSG, for some reason, is definitely one I think I could manage. I can work around doing an awful lot with images, fortunately.

Not sure for BSG, but for AGoT there is a GIMP/Photoshop ready file where you just move/hide/show layers that you need.
Give that BSG is also played a lot on BGG, I'd be surprised if there is no such thing for it as well?

Oh, and about Dominant species - I never played it. But I'd try.

[Ozle]

Subbuteo!

[Grujah]

And.. how about..

Nomic?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic

[Tables]

Game of Thrones, definitely could work, not my favourite game though but I have access to the card lists (2nd ed only). Probably another image difficulty one
BSG, for some reason, is definitely one I think I could manage. I can work around doing an awful lot with images, fortunately.

Not sure for BSG, but for AGoT there is a GIMP/Photoshop ready file where you just move/hide/show layers that you need.
Give that BSG is also played a lot on BGG, I'd be surprised if there is no such thing for it as well?

Oh, and about Dominant species - I never played it. But I'd try.

Yeah there are things available, but I'm really not great with GIMP and other image programs . Despite trying to learn to do stuff in them. That's why I made a BSG thing that's just in paint, because it's easier for me to work with, all I do is cut/paste things on a black background .

[Kuildeous]

Kingdom Builder, definitely a good idea, although I have to admit, I'm not so great with image manipulation and that does sound like it'd be something that wants to be done via images.

The reason I didn't sign up for the Small World game--despite the fact that I love the hell out of it--is that I don't really want to have a lot of images based on where I log in. Forum avatars are different, because forums are usually no big deal, and F.DS users aren't so crass as to have naked people or exploding heads. But, a screen shot of a board game? Probably safe, but I'm not taking chances. So, that's why you won't see me in a game that requires image manipulation.

Though, I do agree that Kingdom Builder could work in PBF pretty well. There's no "attacks" between players so there is minimal down time between turns.

[Ozle]

Kud, you probably already know this, but you know you can turn off avatars and sigs in your profile options?

Thats what i do at work

[Archetype]

Acquire?

Board could just be a spreadsheet.

[Qvist]

More seriously, just to name a few games I never played, but always liked to (I don't know how possible it is to play some of these):

Eclipse
Galaxy Trucker
Flash Point: Fire Rescue
Atlantis Rising
Blood Bowl Team Manager: The Card Game
Space Alert
K2
Trajan
D-Day Dice
Suburbia
Endeavor
Power Grid
Merchants & Marauders
Sake & Samurai
Robinson Crusoe
Gingkopolis

Generally I'm more interested to play some of the heavier, longer games like Through the Ages because we will probably never play these in our gaming group.
What's a lot of work to moderate, but games I like and love to play and I know that these are played on BGG are:

Mage Knight
Civilization

[Ozle]

Incan gold should be easy

[Ozle]

I have that, could easily be persuaded to give it a go, the only difference is that you would have perfect recall on how many gems opponents have. Except i would imagine most of you guys would know that in a real game anyway.

[Tables]

That's quite a list Qvist.

Of those, Power Grid looks very viable to me (board only ever adds things, so should be easy enough to do in paint). Space Alert and Galaxy Trucker are real time games, but now you've mentioned them I feel vindicated to shoehorn them into PBF (I'm still not going to, don't worry). Flash Point has a simple enough board I reckon it could be done in Excel, and is a game that interests me to boot. The rest of those I don't know well enough.

I've started up a 7 Wonders PBF, and I think that I might start up either BSG, Flash Point, Power Grid or perhaps one other, maybe next week. As for everything else, I leave the invite to others to rise up and run them.

[Kuildeous]

Space Alert and Galaxy Trucker are real time games, but now you've mentioned them I feel vindicated to shoehorn them into PBF (I'm still not going to, don't worry).

Yeah, I can't ever see Space Alert as PBF. It could be a fun real-time online game. Probably be even more disastrous than real life, because you have to type your communications. But hey, a communication outage would be quite real.

Galaxy Trucker, of course, has the time issue, but I know some people on BGG have proposed variants where ship building is based on turns. Not everyone likes the time crunch. If someone can find one of these variants that works, then it could become a forum game.  That's definitely intriguing.

Flash Point I have not played. I'd probably sign up just to learn more about it.

[bozzball]

Barbu

[theory]

Isn't Spaceteam for iOS supposed to be similar to Space Alert, i.e., time-pressured co-op?

[Davio]

I'd like to give Flash Point Fire Rescue a whirl.

[ashersky]

Rock, Paper, Scissors!

[Jimmmmm]

... Lizard, Spock!

...no?

[liopoil]

... Lizard, Spock!

...no?

+1

[bozzball]

I am really interested in "Android: Netrunner" and "Lord of the Rings : LCG", but have no idea how well they would work as PBF.

[Qvist]

I am really interested in "Android: Netrunner" and "Lord of the Rings : LCG", but have no idea how well they would work as PBF.

I don't know exactly how it would be with Android: Netrunner, but LotR:LCG would work decent over PBF, but Deck Building doesn't work well with actual cards, so I guess we could take predefined decks and I don't find 2-player games over forum pretty interesting honestly. I think it would be pretty similar with Android: Netrunner. But if anyone wants to host it, I see no problem.

My personal experience with LotR:LCG. I played the base game solo a couple of times and it's soooo hard solo. Not that I don't mind hard games, but it's so frustrating. You could do so well and then there comes up exactly that card you screws up everything and basically you just lost because of dreadful shuffle luck. I think it's a pretty good game and I think if you play it with 2 players it might work, but playing solo is so frustrating and it wasn't delightful to play anymore for me.

[Davio]

Take Eowyn. 

I haven't beaten the third mission. The first is pretty easy if you take Eowyn the quest monster.
The punishment of losing a card is pretty harsh in single player though.

Basically any co-op I find harder with one or even two players (Forbidden Island) because of the limited card space.

The reason I wanted to play Flash Point is because I have a copy, but have yet to play it.

[Galzria]

I would be in on Power Grid, of course. Most of the others listed I think I'll watch to learn first. Already covered a lot of new games this past week, and I want to focus more on really learning those games before I try to throw more new ones in.

[theorel]

I'd be happy to run Power Grid and play in BSG or Flash Point.  I'll work on getting things together to run a Power Grid game.

[Kuildeous]

I always liked the theme of Android, but the two times we brought the behemoth out, we couldn't even finish the game. For one, it took us over an hour to set the damn thing up.

I don't remember enough of the rules to say for sure if it'd be a good PBF game. The forums would be a good way to explore the story side of the game, though, since part of the game involves trying to get your character out of the "might as well commit suicide" stage and into the "I'm a useful member of society" stage. The puzzle portion probably requires Photoshop, though.

A friend of mine has contributed his copy to my math trade. If nobody takes me up on it, I may hang onto it and see just how it'll work for PBF. Though, I think it'd be easier to mod Red November.

Like Through the Ages, Android has a pretty major commitment requirement that prevents it from seeing the gaming table in our group.

[Watno]

I love that game, and would love to play it more (have only played 1 1/2 times). However, I think it's totally unfit for forum play.
Reasons:
1) Movement: You pretty much cant check where you can go with those cool cars without the board and the arc.
2) Interrupts: After every single step you make, there's the possibility that someone might be able to play a card that stops you from doing what you want to do.

[Kuildeous]

I hadn't put much thought into the car arcs. That would require developing a spread sheet to track which locations are in range of a specific car.

I don't recall enough about the game to remember the interrupts. Point taken.

[Drab Emordnilap]

I am just reading this thread for the first time just now. No wonder my game filled up so fast!

Flash Point has a simple enough board I reckon it could be done in Excel,

But that'd be cheating!

[Jorbles]

Just looking at Qvist's list and I just wanted to say that I think Galaxy Trucker is impossible in a forum setting. The ship building part of the game is too time sensitive. It's supposed to take place in about 5-10 minutes while everyone simultaneously flips pieces and tries to fit them the best, the fastest.

However, I would be really interested in playing Eclipse, which I haven't played before, but when I watched a review of the game I thought to myself, that doesn't look any more complex than TTA. I couldn't mod it, but I'd love to play.

[Watno]

I'd love Eclipse too, forgot about that.

[michaeljb]

I think Agricola could work as a PBF. However, there are already sites where you can play asynchronous Agricola, so it might make more sense to have a sign up here, then actually play on the other site.

[Insomniac]

I think Agricola could work as a PBF. However, there are already sites where you can play asynchronous Agricola, so it might make more sense to have a sign up here, then actually play on the other site.

Agricola is coming to ios soonish as well.

[michaeljb]

I think Agricola could work as a PBF. However, there are already sites where you can play asynchronous Agricola, so it might make more sense to have a sign up here, then actually play on the other site.

Agricola is coming to ios soonish as well.

Did not know that. Cool cool cool.

[Watno]

I'm working on a spreadsheet for Terra Mystica, but have lots to do in the next month, so don't expect it to be ready in the next 4 weeks.

[Watno]

Terra Mystica Spreadsheet is ready, I really shouldn't start the game in the next 2 weeks though.
Preview: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuoXfjzSnYbsdG5sSDRHVWtCZjVwNklDeGhOX0FZMUE&usp=sharing

[Davio]

Tokaido seems like a good fit.

It's a bit like 7 Wonders and pretty self regulatory.

[Tables]

Yeah, I'm watching Watchitplayed's series on it, it looks good. Unfortunately I don't have it or access to the cards so I can't easily run it. Not only that, but I kind of feel like it's a game where the experience is half the fun (it looks beautiful from what I've seen) so I dunno.

That said, who would be interested in a game of Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation? It's easy enough to play and most stuff can be done without a moderator, so you wouldn't even need to wait on me.

[eHalcyon]

I want to try Galaxy Trucker.  That totally works PBF, right?  Right?

[Ozle]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

[Insomniac]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

 

[Davio]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

How about some Battlestar Galactica? That seems doable.

I don't know how much of the traitor aspect is lost over the internet, but all those Mafia games prove it can be done.
There's a Vassal mod for it which just has the text from the loyalty cards removed.

[Grujah]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

It... there!

@Davio - I would play BSG. Dunno about hosting, is kinda a lot of work, but perhaps could do it if there is an easy way - a vassal module or something.

[Galzria]

I want to try Galaxy Trucker.  That totally works PBF, right?  Right?

Space Alert! Space Alert!

[Davio]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

It... there!

@Davio - I would play BSG. Dunno about hosting, is kinda a lot of work, but perhaps could do it if there is an easy way - a vassal module or something.

As I said, there is a Vassal module. The text on the loyalty cards has been removed as was requested by FFG, but I don't think this matters.
They either say "You're a Cylon", "You're not a Cylon" or "You're a sympethizer", right? Maybe with some extra stuff you can do.

[Tables]

BSG is played a LOT over PBF on BGG. There's a ton of materials and everything. I've made my own as well, because the stuff there doesn't work as well on google docs.

If there's interest I can do BSG. Probably a base game 5 player game (I'll need to remind myself what's in the houserules I typically use and what's in the official rules, though...)

[Grujah]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

It... there!

@Davio - I would play BSG. Dunno about hosting, is kinda a lot of work, but perhaps could do it if there is an easy way - a vassal module or something.

As I said, there is a Vassal module. The text on the loyalty cards has been removed as was requested by FFG, but I don't think this matters.
They either say "You're a Cylon", "You're not a Cylon" or "You're a sympethizer", right? Maybe with some extra stuff you can do.

I hope if we play it is with 5 players so that we avoid the "you are a sympathiser/sympatetic cylon" option as it sucks.

On You're a Cylon card it says what power do you have when you reveal yourself (unless you are in the Brig).

[Grujah]

I also believe the biggest change with PBF is that you can re-read all vote tallies and who played what, which makes figuring out who voted negaive/bad much easier.

[Kuildeous]

I bet Funny Friends could be amusing in PBF. I only played it once, and I don't think it was quite with the right group to appreciate it. It's technically a board game, but you don't really play to win.

The table talk for that game could be hilarious on f.ds.

[Tables]

I'd like to see a PBF of Game of Thrones

It... there!

@Davio - I would play BSG. Dunno about hosting, is kinda a lot of work, but perhaps could do it if there is an easy way - a vassal module or something.

As I said, there is a Vassal module. The text on the loyalty cards has been removed as was requested by FFG, but I don't think this matters.
They either say "You're a Cylon", "You're not a Cylon" or "You're a sympethizer", right? Maybe with some extra stuff you can do.

I hope if we play it is with 5 players so that we avoid the "you are a sympathiser/sympatetic cylon" option as it sucks.

On You're a Cylon card it says what power do you have when you reveal yourself (unless you are in the Brig).

Symp Cylon is pretty fun, but in either case, no sympathiser variant makes 6 player as good, if not better, than 5 player.

[Grujah]

Symp cylon might be OK, I played with it only once I think, mostly due to unsatisfactory results with symphatisers.

Dunno how you do 6 players w/o symp, we played 5 players most of the time.

[Tables]

Basically you set up with 2 Cylons, 11 human (+Baltar/Boomer), start the game with IIRC -1 food, -2 morale and pop, and revealed cylons draw 3 cards on their turn instead of 2. No other changes. Honestly, the game is imbalanced enough just adding in 2 human cards and playing 6 player as though it were 5 player is fine. Humans get a slight advantage but whatever.

[Jorbles]

I would be in for BSG, I've always wanted to try that.

[Grujah]

As for BSG, I am fine with base, especailly for the first game. I've played all expansion and am fine with any setup. I only didn't really play with New Caprica and dislike Exodus ending, but like all the other changes nad LOVE the new cylon fleet system - it makes game so much more action packed.

[ashersky]

Is D&D pbf-friendly?

[Watno]

you mean the real D&D rpg or some Board game version?

[ashersky]

you mean the real D&D rpg or some Board game version?

I think I mean the real one.  I've never actually played, but it seems everything could happen on th forum, right?  Like, the DM does the rolling at random.org and everything is typed out, in character and all that.

[Watno]

I think it's too much about the experience to work.

[theorel]

PbF roleplaying can be fun, but I think it's harder than FtF roleplaying.  It's much easier in FtF roleplaying to communicate a lot of "character" through non-verbal signals, and to have quick back and forth (i.e. "I try to do X", "okay, roll these checks" <rolling> "here's what happens".)  PbF roleplaying is also more prone to stalling out than other games because it requires an investment not just in "playing" but in participating creatively.  The previous thread on this topic, brought up PbF without a system, which can work better (because it's less game and more straight creative-writing from everyone), but personally I don't like system-less roleplaying.

With those caveats, I don't get much chance for FtF roleplaying these days, and would be interested in some PbF.  I'd be happy to run something like Deadlands or Mage: the Ascension, but would rather not do DnD.

Something like InvisibleCastle can work well for having everyone roll their own dice and having it be check-able, rather than needing the GM to do it all.

[Ozle]

Ozle is a level 4.5 wizard with a different to wear for each spell!

[Grujah]

PbF roleplaying can be fun, but I think it's harder than FtF roleplaying.  It's much easier in FtF roleplaying to communicate a lot of "character" through non-verbal signals, and to have quick back and forth (i.e. "I try to do X", "okay, roll these checks" <rolling> "here's what happens".)  PbF roleplaying is also more prone to stalling out than other games because it requires an investment not just in "playing" but in participating creatively.  The previous thread on this topic, brought up PbF without a system, which can work better (because it's less game and more straight creative-writing from everyone), but personally I don't like system-less roleplaying.

With those caveats, I don't get much chance for FtF roleplaying these days, and would be interested in some PbF.  I'd be happy to run something like Deadlands or Mage: the Ascension, but would rather not do DnD.

Something like InvisibleCastle can work well for having everyone roll their own dice and having it be check-able, rather than needing the GM to do it all.

I'd be up for it, as I like flavor of them both,  I'd prefer Deadlands (I DM a similar world in WoD-esque system, was awesome) as it is less magic-y (and Weird West and other Wild West alternatives) are probably my favourite fantasy worlds, but Mage has that Hellblazer-like feel to it that I wouldn't pass it either.


Any more people for that BSG?

Edit: Which just reminds me, I need to catch up missed Sixth Gun issues. So awesomely fun fun stuff

[theorel]

Oh, I mentioned it a while ago, but, I'm totally up for BSG.

[Grujah]

Ok, I think we can fire up BSG thread.. Tables?

[Tables]

Hmm... sure, but maybe give me a little time? I mean this week has a lot of special occasions - Shrove Tuesday, Ash Wednesday AND St. Skeletor's day on Friday... might have time tomorrow, or maybe not.

[Grujah]

Hmm... sure, but maybe give me a little time? I mean this week has a lot of special occasions - Shrove Tuesday, Ash Wednesday AND St. Skeletor's day on Friday... might have time tomorrow, or maybe not.

no problem, take your time.

[eHalcyon]

I'd like to see a PBF of Infilitration.

[ashersky]

Rock, Paper, Scissors?

[Jimmmmm]

... Lizard, Spock!

...no?

[Tables]

Oh yeah BSG. Umm yeah maybe this week I'll start that.

[Insomniac]

I'd like to see a PBF of Infilitration.

I don't think that game lends itself particularily well to the PBF format

[Axxle]

... Lizard, Spock!

...no?

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[Tables]

I've been putting off starting BSG, not because I don't want to, but because the initial set up will require a moderate amount of reseting my spreadsheet & image files. How about I'll start after 7 Wonders II ends? And by start I mean make the thread.