Topic: Losers Bracket RD 1 Sign-Ups - CLOSED (Read 18210 times)

Insomniac · « **on:** December 06, 2012, 12:29:57 pm »

Please post here if you are interested in being in a losers bracket and you are already eliminated from the main tournament. First 64 are in.

IF YOU MISSED THE MAIN TOURNEY WE WILL TAKE YOU, but precedence will be given to people who lost their first round

Rules and scheduling will mirror the official tournament.

Entrant	Name	Seed
1	Insomniac	213
2	Dsell	165
3	Qvist	55
4	hsiale	222
5	Forge!!!	126
6	AdamH	87
7	TDog	184
8	Axxle	112
9	Harniver	248
10	Dekryr	192
11	BestKenEver	215
12	GwinnR	105
13	loppo	84
14	BlackJackDavie	241
15	Powerman	71
16	hongrich	217
17	warrior297	199
18	jider	120
19	Geefour	201
20	Khan93	191
21	bitwise	158
22	-dg-	219
23	Moomi	104
24	xeiron	121
25	funcrusher	239
26	Masticore	161
27	Tasman1414	231
28	Joseph2302	160
29	Psyduck	228
30	Antonidas	76
31	KC-KC-Scout-Scout-Scout	226
32	Tonks77	185
33	liopoil (jefhw)	247
34	Emeric	151
35	Gandi	102
36	ibavly	44.5
37	Master Shuffler	39.5
38	TheSadPanda	15.5

Dsell · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2012, 12:30:22 pm »

Interested.

Qvist · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2012, 12:33:25 pm »

Yeah, please please, let me play.

hsiale · « **Reply #3 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:04:45 pm »

Interested

Forge!!! · « **Reply #4 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:06:00 pm »

interested!

greatexpectations · « **Reply #5 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:12:08 pm »

general comments:
- you might have trouble hitting 64. maybe lookup some of the players already knocked out and shoot them a message to see if they would be interested? a bunch of the knocked out players rarely post so they likely won't see this. even regular posters might not check in once they have been knocked out.
- you will probably want to cutoff registration sometime friday or saturday. that way you can set up seeds and brackets sunday and keep pace with the tournament at large.

AdamH · « **Reply #6 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:14:23 pm »

Interested, but Please PM me or notify me somehow (not on the DS Championship subforum) if it's actually going to happen so I can make sure to see it.

Schneau · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:23:32 pm »

Would be interested, but I probably don't have time - it was a blessing in disguise to lose in the first round.

Insomniac · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2012, 02:15:24 pm »

Quote from: greatexpectations on December 06, 2012, 01:12:08 pm

general comments:
- you might have trouble hitting 64. maybe lookup some of the players already knocked out and shoot them a message to see if they would be interested? a bunch of the knocked out players rarely post so they likely won't see this. even regular posters might not check in once they have been knocked out.
- you will probably want to cutoff registration sometime friday or saturday. that way you can set up seeds and brackets sunday and keep pace with the tournament at large.

1) Will do that a bit later today
2) Saturday at 11:59:59pm forum time sounds reasonable.

Tdog · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2012, 02:24:27 pm »

I'm interested

Axxle · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:05:09 pm »

Harniver · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:06:16 pm »

Interested!

Insomniac · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:08:19 pm »

I have now contacted all people who have lost their first round already.

Dekryr · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:09:38 pm »

I'm in.

BestKenEver · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:49:01 pm »

Please add me, thank you!

GwinnR · « **Reply #15 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:04:08 pm »

I wanna sign in too.

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:25:44 pm »

if i lose on saturday (playing at 1600 GMT), i would be interested.

Drab Emordnilap · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:37:27 pm »

So wait, the people who advance further than the first round don't get to play anymore after they're eliminated, but the first round eliminatees do?

Insomniac · « **Reply #18 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:41:21 pm »

Quote from: Drab Emordnilap on December 06, 2012, 04:37:27 pm

So wait, the people who advance further than the first round don't get to play anymore after they're eliminated, but the first round eliminatees do?

There might be a losers bracket 2 but normally round 1 is where the biggest upsets happen and where people are still the most amped to play

loppo · « **Reply #19 on:** December 06, 2012, 04:54:52 pm »

interested

mith · « **Reply #20 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:03:53 pm »

Quote from: Insomniac on December 06, 2012, 04:41:21 pm

Quote from: Drab Emordnilap on December 06, 2012, 04:37:27 pm
So wait, the people who advance further than the first round don't get to play anymore after they're eliminated, but the first round eliminatees do?

There might be a losers bracket 2 but normally round 1 is where the biggest upsets happen and where people are still the most amped to play

Would make it impossible to have a "bracket", but you could have a window each week to allow losers of the current main bracket to join the losers bracket, and then shuffle them in with the winners from the previous round of the loser's bracket. That is:

Now 'til ~Tuesday: Signups for Round 1 of Losers' Bracket (Round 1 main tournament losers)
Week 1 (~Tuesday-Monday or whatever): : Round 1 of Losers' Bracket + Signups for Round 2 of Losers' Bracket (Round 2 main tournament losers)
Week 2: Round 2 of Losers' Bracket (winners of Round 1 LB + new signups) + Signups for Round 3 of LB (Round 3 main tournament losers)
etc.

Each week, everyone still participating has the same "record" between the two tournaments. Re-seed, or just do a big random draw every round.

tl;dr: Make it more like a Swiss format, and once you have two losses between the tournaments, you're out.

theory · « **Reply #21 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:04:33 pm »

Yes, traditionally loser's brackets incorporate subsequent losers in later rounds.

Axxle · « **Reply #22 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:05:04 pm »

You can set it up like a double elimination bracket.

Insomniac · « **Reply #23 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:06:05 pm »

Quote from: mith on December 06, 2012, 05:03:53 pm

Quote from: Insomniac on December 06, 2012, 04:41:21 pm
Quote from: Drab Emordnilap on December 06, 2012, 04:37:27 pm
So wait, the people who advance further than the first round don't get to play anymore after they're eliminated, but the first round eliminatees do?

There might be a losers bracket 2 but normally round 1 is where the biggest upsets happen and where people are still the most amped to play

Would make it impossible to have a "bracket", but you could have a window each week to allow losers of the current main bracket to join the losers bracket, and then shuffle them in with the winners from the previous round of the loser's bracket. That is:

Now 'til ~Tuesday: Signups for Round 1 of Losers' Bracket (Round 1 main tournament losers)
Week 1 (~Tuesday-Monday or whatever): : Round 1 of Losers' Bracket + Signups for Round 2 of Losers' Bracket (Round 2 main tournament losers)
Week 2: Round 2 of Losers' Bracket (winners of Round 1 LB + new signups) + Signups for Round 3 of LB (Round 3 main tournament losers)
etc.

Each week, everyone still participating has the same "record" between the two tournaments. Re-seed, or just do a big random draw every round.

tl;dr: Make it more like a Swiss format, and once you have two losses between the tournaments, you're out.

I meant as in like there could be a completely seperate losers bracket 2, that said I am open to suggestions for how to incorporate people from later rounds

BlackJackDavie · « **Reply #24 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:21:22 pm »

Intrested

Powerman · « **Reply #25 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:23:13 pm »

/sign up

hongrich · « **Reply #26 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:25:45 pm »

I'm in as well.

Warrior · « **Reply #27 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:52:24 pm »

I'm interested! In!

mith · « **Reply #28 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:14:25 pm »

Quote from: Axxle on December 06, 2012, 05:05:04 pm

You can set it up like a double elimination bracket.

The problem with the standard double elimination bracket is that it assumes everyone who loses a match will still be participating. That will be the case here.

(I wouldn't cap it at 64, given that there are 128 losers coming out of the main bracket round 1. But I suspect it won't get to 64 anyway.)

Just to put some example numbers to what I'm talking about, here's what the setup would look like if roughly 1/3 of the losers from the main bracket joined the losers' bracket each round:

Round 1: 42 r1 losers -> 21 winners
Round 2: 21 + 21 r2 losers = 42 -> 21 winners
Round 3: 21 + 11 r3 losers = 32 -> 16 winners
Round 4: 16 + 6 r4 losers = 22 -> 11 winners
Round 5: 11 + 3 r5 losers = 14 -> 7 winners
Round 6: 7 + 1 r6 loser = 8 -> 4 winners (at this point, the main tournament has reached its semifinals as well and assuming a third place match won't be sending any more players here)
Round 7: 4 -> 2
Round 8: 2 -> 1

The main difficulty is dealing with odd numbers, but that can be handled with byes. I'd be happy to help with the logistics if that all sounds like a nightmare. ;)

Insomniac · « **Reply #29 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:29:50 pm »

Are you in btw mith?

jider · « **Reply #30 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:31:03 pm »

sign me up!

Axxle · « **Reply #31 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:47:50 pm »

Quote from: Insomniac on December 06, 2012, 06:29:50 pm

Are you in btw mith?

mith ~~hasn't lost yet~~ is going to win the tournament, silly.

fixed for clarity.

Geefour · « **Reply #32 on:** December 06, 2012, 07:26:21 pm »

Thanks for setting up a second chance. Count me in.

mith · « **Reply #33 on:** December 06, 2012, 07:52:36 pm »

Quote from: Axxle on December 06, 2012, 06:47:50 pm

Quote from: Insomniac on December 06, 2012, 06:29:50 pm
Are you in btw mith?
mith ~~hasn't lost yet~~ is going to win the tournament, silly.

fixed for clarity.

And quoted for truthery.

khanh93 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 06, 2012, 09:34:58 pm »

Wee! (Interest stated.)

bitwise · « **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2012, 10:38:51 pm »

I am interested. Losers unite!

-dg- · « **Reply #36 on:** December 07, 2012, 12:27:34 am »

I'm interested, too.

-dg-

ibavly · « **Reply #37 on:** December 07, 2012, 02:25:01 am »

I missed the tourney but would like to /in the second chance tourney

Moomi · « **Reply #38 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:01:00 am »

Register me!

PitzerMike · « **Reply #39 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:18:12 am »

I'm assuming the main point is for the early eliminated players to play a few more games.
I would think that letting in people who were late to the party - like these two - couldn't really hurt. Especially if there's not too many sign-ups for the losers bracket and I don't think there's any prize or whatever on the line?

Dekryr · « **Reply #40 on:** December 07, 2012, 09:29:00 am »

I think it could get complicated trying to add people from later rounds as they lose, but I guess it would depend on the number of people we have in this bracket to start. My main concern with adding people would be it slowing down the loser's bracket tourney. If they lose on Saturday do they have to sign up for loser's by Monday?? so that the loser's tourney can stay on the weekly schedule? I think it's do-able just harder on the people running it.

Also, I would not be opposed at all to letting in people who missed the main tourney. It seems like those extra numbers would help more than hurt at this point.

Insomniac · « **Reply #41 on:** December 07, 2012, 12:35:37 pm »

Personally not opposed to letting people who didn't play in if we don't hit cap

xeiron · « **Reply #42 on:** December 07, 2012, 01:23:55 pm »

Register me too!

funcrusher · « **Reply #43 on:** December 07, 2012, 02:31:16 pm »

count me in.

Masticore · « **Reply #44 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:00:04 pm »

Interested too,
i feel like a dummy for not realizing this was single elim haha

Tasman1414 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 07, 2012, 03:28:06 pm »

I'm interested

Joseph2302 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 08, 2012, 11:52:17 am »

count me in, i've just lost my 1st round game...

Psyduck · « **Reply #47 on:** December 08, 2012, 01:00:30 pm »

I'm also in.

Antonidas · « **Reply #48 on:** December 08, 2012, 03:38:07 pm »

I'll sign up.

KC-KC-Scout-Scout-Scout · « **Reply #49 on:** December 08, 2012, 05:46:50 pm »

Sign me up.

Tonks77 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 08, 2012, 05:50:18 pm »

Sign me up as well

Master Shuffler · « **Reply #51 on:** December 08, 2012, 10:02:26 pm »

Quote from: ibavly on December 07, 2012, 02:25:01 am

I missed the tourney but would like to /in the second chance tourney

same. couldn't hurt and it will be fun.

TheSadPanda · « **Reply #52 on:** December 08, 2012, 10:44:46 pm »

TheSadPanda would love to help the losers bracket out...since I missed the main tourney! would love to have some fun w everyone. Thanks!

TSP

liopoil · « **Reply #53 on:** December 09, 2012, 11:33:58 am »

Sign me up! My iso name is jefhw, not liopoil by the way. I lost in round one to Marin, 4-1. I won one game so I don't feel like a loser XD.

mith · « **Reply #54 on:** December 09, 2012, 04:39:19 pm »

Per discussion in the other thread, posting to reiterate that:

1. Signups for round 1 losers and anyone who missed the main tournament signups are currently open, and will likely close... tomorrow? Everyone should be finished with round 1 of the main tournament now, but probably best to give a day or two to make sure people see this.
2. Losers in round 2 (and future rounds) are also welcome to sign up, and will be added in to the corresponding round of the losers bracket when we get there. Signups for each round will close ~2 days after deadline for that round of the main tournament.

Insomniac · « **Reply #55 on:** December 09, 2012, 10:22:37 pm »

Quote from: mith on December 09, 2012, 04:39:19 pm

Per discussion in the other thread, posting to reiterate that:

1. Signups for round 1 losers and anyone who missed the main tournament signups are currently open, and will likely close... tomorrow? Everyone should be finished with round 1 of the main tournament now, but probably best to give a day or two to make sure people see this.
2. Losers in round 2 (and future rounds) are also welcome to sign up, and will be added in to the corresponding round of the losers bracket when we get there. Signups for each round will close ~2 days after deadline for that round of the main tournament.

This. I will update the intro post with entries/seedings tomorrow. been busy this weekend.

Emeric · « **Reply #56 on:** December 10, 2012, 04:30:20 am »

Sign me Up. My iso pseudo is "Move your Body". I loose against heatthespurs in Witch Division in round 1.

Gandi · « **Reply #57 on:** December 10, 2012, 07:06:41 am »

If that's still possible, I'd like to sign in.

Insomniac · « **Reply #58 on:** December 10, 2012, 12:22:42 pm »

Ill give it till noon (PST) today at which point ill do up the brackets.

mith · « **Reply #59 on:** December 10, 2012, 02:01:43 pm »

Seeds for new players, from Dec. 1 leaderboard:

48.453 ± 10.687 = 37.766 ibavly 44.5
50.296 ± 6.493 = 43.803 TheSadPanda 15.5
44.941 ± 6.365 = 38.576 =-sup-= 39.5 (Master Shuffler)

Insomniac · « **Reply #60 on:** December 10, 2012, 02:04:20 pm »

Quote from: mith on December 10, 2012, 02:01:43 pm

Seeds for new players, from Dec. 1 leaderboard:

48.453 ± 10.687 = 37.766 ibavly 44.5
50.296 ± 6.493 = 43.803 TheSadPanda 15.5
44.941 ± 6.365 = 38.576 =-sup-= 39.5 (Master Shuffler)

Thanks!

One hour left before I close this off to entrants and make a week 1 bracket!

Insomniac · « **Reply #61 on:** December 10, 2012, 03:07:05 pm »

Sign ups closed.

pingpongsam · « **Reply #62 on:** December 11, 2012, 03:08:36 pm »

haha, trololol

Axxle · « **Reply #63 on:** December 11, 2012, 03:27:38 pm »

Sorry

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