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Author Topic: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: GAME OVER! FLAWLESS TOWN WIN (sort of)!  (Read 114250 times)

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #350 on: November 20, 2012, 05:45:42 pm »

@Young Nick, my comments have been of the tongue-in-cheek variety.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #351 on: November 20, 2012, 06:14:16 pm »

What. Ok, let's pretend that there was a Galz-Dsell scumteam. Galz, the quintessential town leader, decides to have his scummate, Dsell, (who usually is a medium poster) lead the town. And when Dsell gets himself in a little trouble, Galz does some coaching to help Dsell (who's a total noob at playing scum) out. We are doing all this instead of playing how we often do as scum, even though these tactics have both won us multiple games as scum. Yeah that's probably what's going on here.

Cayvie, I hope you are being sarcastic because I thought your BS sensor was better than this.

do scum plan their d1 play that much?

i know we didn't when i was mafia in BM5
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #352 on: November 20, 2012, 07:57:41 pm »

What. Ok, let's pretend that there was a Galz-Dsell scumteam. Galz, the quintessential town leader, decides to have his scummate, Dsell, (who usually is a medium poster) lead the town. And when Dsell gets himself in a little trouble, Galz does some coaching to help Dsell (who's a total noob at playing scum) out. We are doing all this instead of playing how we often do as scum, even though these tactics have both won us multiple games as scum. Yeah that's probably what's going on here.

Cayvie, I hope you are being sarcastic because I thought your BS sensor was better than this.

do scum plan their d1 play that much?

i know we didn't when i was mafia in BM5

I don't think I've ever planned D1 play as scum, maybe a tiny bit in RMM1 but mostly no. I'm just saying that your suggestion that that was coaching is pretty preposterous. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that "coaching" is almost never a scumtell unless you're dealing with a seriously new mafia player in a really weird situation, and honestly probably not even then. I'm not new, Galz isn't new, I'd wager we'd both bus pretty hard on D1 if there was good reason to.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #353 on: November 20, 2012, 08:46:41 pm »

Yeah honestly they would just wait to talk in their QT at night. Such blatant coaching seems preposterous to me.

Y'all know I am usually good for some D(runk) AMA's, lets see how a S(hroomed)AMA works out.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #354 on: November 20, 2012, 11:26:02 pm »


Vote Count 1.4:

Dsell (3) -- Robz888, ashersky, jotheonah
cayvie (1) -- pingpongsam
Captain_Frisk (1) -- Qvist,
Morgrim7 (3) -- Galzria, Eevee, Dsell
Young Nick (1) -- cayvie
No Lynch (1) -- Young Nick

Not Voting (2) -- Morgrim7, Captain_Frisk

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 lynch deadline is Saturday, November 24th, at 1:00 AM forum time.

Mod note: This game has been moving pretty slowly. :-/ Two blitz games completed, and this is only in D1!

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #355 on: November 21, 2012, 09:03:04 am »

i think morgrim wagon not picking up immediately is a good sign. I wholeheartedly support this over no lynch, and urge others to consider it as well.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #356 on: November 21, 2012, 09:48:37 am »

I've been looking for the slow moving wagons as well. Still feel good about a Cayvie vote this regard too.  However, I can get behind Vote: Morgrim
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #357 on: November 21, 2012, 09:59:36 am »

Point of interest: The Morgrim wagon is slow moving because it's a Morgrim wagon. It has nothing to do with Morgrim's alignment. He could be town or scum - it wouldn't matter. People will always be hesitant to lynch Morgrim.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #358 on: November 21, 2012, 10:09:00 am »

1. ashersky - 16
2. pingpongsam - 15
3. Young Nick - 18
4. Morgrim7 - 4
5. Captain_Frisk - 41
6. Robz888 - 36
7. Galzria - 24
8. Eevee - 33
9. jotheonah - 37
10. cayvie - 21
11. Qvist - 10
12. Dsell - 50 (!)

4 posts for morgim is a crime.  DSell stands out.... I don't remember him ever being so active.

Vote: Morgrim

He's in japan, so no thanksgiving related excuses for him the next few days.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #359 on: November 21, 2012, 10:13:02 am »

You counted pregame. Morgrim only has two game posts. However, it is likely wrong to discount Thanksgiving from Morgrim's plans, seeing as he suspended his game until Friday due to Thanksgiving.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #360 on: November 21, 2012, 10:35:26 am »

So, he has attempted to publicly declare himself absent until after Thanksgiving?

Unvote
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #361 on: November 21, 2012, 10:35:59 am »

Oh, yeah Vote: Cayvie
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #362 on: November 21, 2012, 12:16:20 pm »

I'm fine with just killing Morgrim, I guess.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #363 on: November 21, 2012, 12:33:13 pm »

So, I'm home from work and I really haven't posted much here so far.
I haven't read the last couple of pages in detail, only looked through the vote count.
And I'm surprised that we are in fact voting. I thought we agreed in not lynching someone tonight.
So I'm going to read now what the accusations are.

Another thought:
I don't know what your cards do, but some of my cards allow me to pick a target.
Do you think it might beneficial to coordinate targets in some way?

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #364 on: November 21, 2012, 12:37:34 pm »


Vote Count 1.5:

Dsell (3) -- Robz888, ashersky, jotheonah
cayvie (1) -- pingpongsam
Captain_Frisk (1) -- Qvist,
Morgrim7 (4) -- Galzria, Eevee, Dsell, Captain_Frisk {L-3}
Young Nick (1) -- cayvie
No Lynch (1) -- Young Nick

Not Voting (1) -- Morgrim7

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 lynch deadline is Saturday, November 24th, at 1:00 AM forum time.

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #365 on: November 21, 2012, 01:15:59 pm »

Regarding Morgrim: I don't like "Lynch all lurkers" at all. Anti-Town isn't Mafia.
Regarding Dsell: Jumping on Eevee's typo is bad luck and makes him really suspicious. But on the other hand he didn't say "For me he's scum too". He just questioned jotheonah. And Robz made a big case out of it. No-one would have noticed it if it weren't Robz. I haven't played with him yet, but for me it seems rather suspicious from him to make such a big deal out of it.
Especially after he insisted in not lynchind anybody.

I still support Vote: No Lynch, I think.

I'm inclined to vote Robz. But I just unvote and Vote:No Lynch because I still think it's the best idea to lynch no-one.

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #366 on: November 21, 2012, 04:26:49 pm »

Regarding Morgrim: I don't like "Lynch all lurkers" at all. Anti-Town isn't Mafia.
Regarding Dsell: Jumping on Eevee's typo is bad luck and makes him really suspicious. But on the other hand he didn't say "For me he's scum too". He just questioned jotheonah. And Robz made a big case out of it. No-one would have noticed it if it weren't Robz. I haven't played with him yet, but for me it seems rather suspicious from him to make such a big deal out of it.
Especially after he insisted in not lynchind anybody.

I still support Vote: No Lynch, I think.

I'm inclined to vote Robz. But I just unvote and Vote:No Lynch because I still think it's the best idea to lynch no-one.

This is a huge problem with the case against me. I never jumped on the typo. I took issue with an argument (it was a bad argument) Jo made in response to the typo. When Eevee corrected himself, I said something about it because I agreed more with his earlier statement. A lot of people seem to think I just was sheeping Eevee's read he expressed in a typo post. That's not true. One of Jo's posts struck me as fishing and then he made the bad argument.

But thank you, Qvist, for seeing this argument for what it is: crap.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #367 on: November 22, 2012, 12:20:32 pm »



Vote Count 1.6:

Dsell (3) -- Robz888, ashersky, jotheonah
cayvie (1) -- pingpongsam
Morgrim7 (4) -- Galzria, Eevee, Dsell, Captain_Frisk {L-3}
Young Nick (1) -- cayvie
No Lynch (2) -- Young Nick, Qvist

Not Voting (1) -- Morgrim7

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 lynch deadline is Saturday, November 24th, at 1:00 AM forum time. (2 Days)

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #368 on: November 22, 2012, 01:00:59 pm »

Vote: Qvist

for reasons.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #369 on: November 22, 2012, 01:39:32 pm »

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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #370 on: November 22, 2012, 02:13:21 pm »

Actually, I'll vote: Robz.  And it's because of something I noticed thanks to Qvist's quotes.

He jumps on Dsell for the Eevee thing, makes a big deal, then doesn't follow it up with a vote.  That's classic mafia play.  He's directing suspicion toward someone without voting, so he's safe when the flip is town.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #371 on: November 22, 2012, 02:32:49 pm »

Actually, I'll vote: Robz.  And it's because of something I noticed thanks to Qvist's quotes.

He jumps on Dsell for the Eevee thing, makes a big deal, then doesn't follow it up with a vote.  That's classic mafia play.  He's directing suspicion toward someone without voting, so he's safe when the flip is town.

I absolutely did follow it up with a vote. I voted in the same post where I made that case. I am still voting for him.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #372 on: November 22, 2012, 02:34:27 pm »

Qvist quoting me as supporting No Lynch, which I did, but that was before I noticed the Dsell stuff. When I realized I suspected Dsell, I voted for him immediately.
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #373 on: November 22, 2012, 03:33:59 pm »

we've solved it, guys

the scumteam is Qvist, Galzria, Dsell

vote: Dsell
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Re: DoMafia I: It Depends on the Kingdom: (Day 1) PM for Spectator QT
« Reply #374 on: November 22, 2012, 03:47:23 pm »

Qvist quoting me as supporting No Lynch, which I did, but that was before I noticed the Dsell stuff. When I realized I suspected Dsell, I voted for him immediately.

Oh.  Unvote.

The way those quotes were made it look bad.
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