Whoa, I missed a lot. Wow.
So if I'm to believe the many accusations flying around, and they all certainly have their evidence, then Frisk is SK, watno is most certainly lying and is scum, Robz is watno's partner and is a scummy thief, jorbles is also watno's scum partner and that's why watno targeted him, and joth is scum because his vanillla flavor showed up. So great, game solved. Except that's crazy.
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It almost seems too good to be true, we might have stumbled upon more than half of the scum early day 2 without any direct investigations?
and I agree with Robz that this absolutely IS too good to be true. But figuring out who's lying and who's actually scummy is a tough effin' task. As I was catching up page after page, my mouth just hung open stupified. It has to be that someone with a public claim is lying. There's just too much stuff flying around and these bits of info are most definitely not pieces of the same puzzle, because I'm finding it impossible to put them all together.
With this many scummy characters flying around, I'm almost certain that some of them are actual scum, and it wouldn't surprise me if their scum partners were taking active roles in pushing the "fake" cases that also sound reasonable.
@Galz, why did you seem so certain that watno has to be a scumpair with someone else who's also catching heat? I had a pretty solid town-read on watno the first day, but today I find his statements the most confusing. But the reason I find them confusing I guess is because they make so many other claims harder to explain. But somehow my gut reaction is still to take what he's saying as true, and try to figure out which other statements most likely have to be lies because of that. I probably won't have the energy to do that tonight, but I plan on looking at it tomorrow.
I'm not so inclined to believe joth/jorbles both being town. An argument from them is that it's simple scum play to kill the 3rd QT member and use all the scoops yourself. But Frisk's post
See - I think that as scum with daytalking neighbors, I would absolutely not want to kill them. I assum this is why Galz kept me alive in BMMMMMM1, because he could talk / guide me privately. Saving up your scoops? You and Joth had 7? Even 1 per night is going to last you a long time. How often do you live to day 4?
is probably what I would also do as scum in either of your situations. I think the argument has been made that it would be doubly-bad play for joth to go after jorbles, get him (presumably town in this hypothetical) lynched, which sets Joth up for day 3 lynch. So therefore joth isn't scum. I don't understand. It looks to me like you both are thinking now that the other is most definitely town due to not taking the "obvious scumplay". And maybe other people are believing this too. Well let me say that the scenario where everyone believes you both are conftown AND you have a patsy town member to direct badly through QT would be the best as scum. This is all to say that I think it's perfectly reasonable for either of you to have passed up the obvious scumplay and tried for a more powerful one. So I won't give either of you any town-cred for that.
about Frisk. why are we not suspecting that he's SK anymore. It sure seems that way to me, despite the convenient adding of "vig" to his roleclaim. I think joth has already said that he knew Frisk was Vig, and that Frisk himself called joth out for that! Here's where my mafia-newness will be a detriment. How often does an SK claim vig? Are we not worrying about its believableness because we can now decide to direct his kill around? From reading all the arguments about directing his kill, it seems that no-kill is the best option to me.
About Robz. Galzria and Dsell both make a good case about Robz. (By the way, I vaguely recall somebody making a scum pairing including Galz, who made that and what was the explanation? Because I'm still super wary of Galz, and I can't tell when he's explaining sometimes whether he's being clear and helping me make informed decisions [town], or being forceful and pushing me to sheep his decisions [scummy]). Back onto Robz topic. I was thinking about ashersky's post #940 where he said that Robz's claim made no sense. I am really confused about how Robz only soaked up half of watno's tracking, and find it somewhat convenient that the successful half is the half that hit insom and found Frisk. So I guess that's watno/Robz double suspicion that I was asking Galz about earlier. But back to only-Robz arguments. I really really didn't like this post from Robz.
I fully admit that my role looks like a scum role. It's mystifyingly town.
Why post that? I don't recall anyone speculating about your role at that point, and nobody had yet called it a scummy-looking role I believe. It's a predefense of an argument that wasn't even made yet. That just reads to be like a very scummy thing to do, because you're analyzing at every turn what suspicions your actions might arouse. It just seems super phony to laugh off the scummy-looking aspects of your role before anybody had pointed out the scummy-looking aspects of your role. That being said, I definitely don't want to lynch Robz right now, (WE HAVE 10 MORE DAYS!!, icancountright?). I want to use that time to see if we can't piece everything together better. I mean, ashersky has been here like once? Lekkit can't jump in fully yet because he's still at his parents, and I just showed up for basically the first time in Day 2 roughly 3 hours ago.
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