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[Beyond Awesome]

Since Band of Misfits is being allowed to be discussed here, I felt I should post the other cards for those interested and who may have walked into the BoM thread wondering what was going on. http://www.reddit.com/r/dominion/comments/y7vuv/unconfirmed_dark_ages_spoilers/

[Donald X.]

Again I confirm these cards, subject to what the poster says about forgetting names and things. They have been leaked, I would rather they hadn't been but there they are, pretending they aren't there isn't accomplishing anything. Discuss them all you want.

[Beyond Awesome]

Altar seems interesting. It is expensive at $6, and it is terminal. But, it is a super upgrade, now, instead of trashing curses and coppers, you can transform them into any $5 cost card including Duchy's. With Highway, this card seems like it would be amazing. However, I'm not sure on the power level of this card because it cost $6.

[Voltaire]

I won't reveal the name or the missing choices for the one with all the choices, but I personally plan on spending a lot of time trying to figure out what combinations it would take to make the card worthwhile. AP in the best way, I say!

[Donald X.]

I won't reveal the name or the missing choices for the one with all the choices, but I personally plan on spending a lot of time trying to figure out what combinations it would take to make the card worthwhile. AP in the best way, I say!

The reddit thread says "gain a Duchy" and I confirm that.

[AJD]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

[AJD]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

(Though I guess unlike Remodel, Expand, Transmute, etc., the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card.)

[mnavratil]

Copying these from the linked post then, so we can discuss. 

Altar - $6
Trash a card from your hand, gain a card costing up to $5

Band of Misfits - $5
Play this as if it were an Action card in the Supply costing less than it that you choose. This is that card until it leaves play.

Bandit Camp - $5
it's a village that gives you a spoils when you play it

Scavenger - $4
+$2
you may put your deck in your discard pile, look through your discard pile and put one card on top of your deck

Ironmonger - $4
+1 card +1 action
reveal the top card of your deck, you may discard it if it is an (action, treasure, victory) +1 action, +1$, +1card

Armory - $4
gain a card costing up to $4, place it on your deck

Procession- $4
Choose a card from your hand, play it twice, trash it, gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more.

Fortress - $4
+2 actions, +1 card
when trashed, return this card to your hand

? - $5
Choose 1 (discard 2 cards, return a card to the top of your deck, gain a copper)
Choose 1 (+$3, trash your hand, Gain a Duchy)

Edit: Keeping up to date with comments below. Will fill in with more/better info if possible.

[Beyond Awesome]

I won't reveal the name or the missing choices for the one with all the choices, but I personally plan on spending a lot of time trying to figure out what combinations it would take to make the card worthwhile. AP in the best way, I say!

The card seems like it would be very good in Duke games. Buy two or three of these, and then start going for Duchy's. Seems like a good strategy.

[ftl]

The card seems like it would be very good in Duke games. Buy two or three of these, and then start going for Duchy's. Seems like a good strategy.

If you buy 2 or 3 of these while your opponent is buying Duchies, you'll never catch up, and by the time you play it a few times the Duchies will be out.

Might be good if your opponent isn't contesting Duchies and is going for an engine.

It is going to be pretty versatile in the end-game, though, almost a gold for 5. If you need all the cards in your hand for this to get you a province? Gain a copper. If you have dead cards in hand? Discard two. If you have more money than you need? Save up for next turn. If you can't buy a province anyway? Save your best treasure for next turn, and gain a duchy.

The 'trash your hand' is also better than it seems. Because you can either discard two cards or put one back on the deck, so you CAN use it as a 'trash 3' or 'trash 2'. Or you can use it as a 'trash 4 and gain a copper'. You don't actually have that much of a risk of colliding with good cards you don't want to trash. 

[eHalcyon]

The untrashable Village is called Fortress (I saw this on Goko).  The card labelled Fortress is called Procession, I think (I didn't see it on Goko, but I gleaned this from someone's comment here on f.ds).

[AJD]

It is going to be pretty versatile in the end-game, though, almost a gold for 5. If you need all the cards in your hand for this to get you a province? Gain a copper. If you have dead cards in hand? Discard two. If you have more money than you need? Save up for next turn.

It's not quite strictly better than Mandarin, but it's close....

[ftl]

Ah, and all the weird comments were about Procession/Duration interactions, because you have to remember that it was used to play a duration.

[Beyond Awesome]

The untrashable Village is called Fortress (I saw this on Goko).  The card labelled Fortress is called Procession, I think (I didn't see it on Goko, but I gleaned this from someone's comment here on f.ds).

I'm still not sure what to think of Fortress. Seems like on many boards, it will end up being a $4 Necropolis.

[ftl]

It's not quite strictly better than Mandarin, but it's close....

It's on-play effect is strictly better than Mandarin, but it doesn't have an on-gain effect. And, the on-gain effect is really what makes Mandarin unique...

[Jfrisch]

the last card has to be the best duke enabler ever, (gain a duchy and a copper or put back a spare copy, or gain 3 coins and a copper or put back a spare copper) horsetraders can't compete.

[ftl]

The untrashable Village is called Fortress (I saw this on Goko).  The card labelled Fortress is called Procession, I think (I didn't see it on Goko, but I gleaned this from someone's comment here on f.ds).

I'm still not sure what to think of Fortress. Seems like on many boards, it will end up being a $4 Necropolis.

Well, on many boards it's just a $4 village. But that's okay too.

Makes for a pretty nice Golden Deck! Throne Room/Throne Room/Bishop/Bishop/Fortress. 12 points per turn.

[LastFootnote]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

[mnavratil]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

[LastFootnote]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

No, not Altar. Procession. Altar can gain any card costing up to $5.

[HiveMindEmulator]

It's not quite strictly better than Mandarin, but it's close....

It's on-play effect is strictly better than Mandarin, but it doesn't have an on-gain effect. And, the on-gain effect is really what makes Mandarin unique...

Once it's in your deck, it's at least a Mandarin, which is not terrible but not great, but you have to option to pick a different penalty if you desire, which makes it a lot better. If you're agnostic to Copper gaining, you can just take that. Or if you have 2 bad cards, you can just discard them.

It's other good use seems to be as a non-early-game trasher like Forge. The problem with "trash your hand" that Donald has mentioned in the past is that outside of the early game you often don't want to do it because you at least have something good in your hand. But since you can put a card back or discard 2, then you can save the good stuff and trash all the rest.

Then of course there's the obvious combo with Duke, where you're happy to gain a Copper and a Duchy, then can use $3 with your Coppers to buy Dukes.

[LastFootnote]

Referring to the unnamed card is going to get awkward. Can we just call it the Card Of Unlimited New Tactics?

[mnavratil]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

No, not Altar. Procession. Altar can gain any card costing up to $5.

Sorry, made the cahnge too quickly. I think I nailed it this time.

[LastFootnote]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

No, not Altar. Procession. Altar can gain any card costing up to $5.

Sorry, made the cahnge too quickly. I think I nailed it this time.

Bullseye.

[Qvist]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

(Though I guess unlike Remodel, Expand, Transmute, etc., the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card.)

Trading Post

[HiveMindEmulator]

Referring to the unnamed card is going to get awkward. Can we just call it the Card Of Unlimited New Tactics?

I see what you did there

[AJD]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

(Though I guess unlike Remodel, Expand, Transmute, etc., the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card.)

Trading Post

Trading Post is also not a verb, and the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card. Okay, this is consistent.

[mnavratil]

So an opponents saboteur hitting a fortress seems pretty funny. Also opponents trashing with governor seems cool there. I trash a fortress, gaining a governor, oh look fortress is still right there.

[RiemannZetaJones]

Am I wrong to assume that Procession allows you to play treasure cards during the action phase?

Edit: yes, the card says "action card", in contrast to the spoiler on reddit.

[mnavratil]

Also seems plausible to get the whole rats pile with one Fortress in hand? Just keep trashing that same fortress. This seems fun.

[pst]

Procession - Band of Misfits
Should the card you gain at the end cost one more than BoM or one more than what you played BoM as?

I think this goes together with my question about Throne Room with BoM-as-Feast in another thread in that both have to do with how TR/Procession remembers the BoM after it is trashed.

[HiveMindEmulator]

So an opponents saboteur hitting a fortress seems pretty funny. Also opponents trashing with governor seems cool there. I trash a fortress, gaining a governor, oh look fortress is still right there.

KC+(any TfB)+Fortress = win.
Apprentice draws 12 cards (and a 13th when you actually play Fortress). Procession draws 3 cards, gives a ton of Actions and gains 3 $5 actions. Develop gains you a nice $3/$5 chain, etc...

[mnavratil]

Procession - Band of Misfits
Should the card you gain at the end cost one more than BoM or one more than what you played BoM as?

I think this goes together with my question about Throne Room with BoM-as-Feast in another thread in that both have to do with how TR/Procession remembers the BoM after it is trashed.

This was answered by Donald. You gain a $6 card.

[werothegreat]

[HiveMindEmulator]

Am I wrong to assume that Procession allows you to play treasure cards during the action phase?

You are wrong. IIRC, it says "action" on the card in both places (the card you play and the one you gain). The spoiler just omitted both.

[mnavratil]

wereothegreat just ruined any productivity I may have had left at work.

[blueblimp]

Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.

[pst]

This was answered by Donald. You gain a $6 card.

OK. Hm, this seems strange to me together with the other ruling (although Donald X. mentioned that that ruling was sort of tentative: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4083.msg87589#msg87589 ).

Following the thinking there I'd have thought that in this case Procession only would see the BoM as whatever card you wanted it to be, and thus never know about what price the original BoM had.

[LastFootnote]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

[werothegreat]

Just realized I spoiled the other Ruins when they hadn't been... :/

But I guess that's compensated by my not having found Armory.

[blueblimp]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

[Tdog]

Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.

Or grab poor house/squire on the two and hope they don't collide...

[Qvist]

werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

[LastFootnote]

werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

[Watno]

wow, all the card images are so dark.

[Tdog]

wow, all the card images are so dark.

It's not called light ages

[Qvist]

werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain non-Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

Ah, haven't read the "Action" part, but still, I can get 3 cards costing $5, right?

[LastFootnote]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.

[LastFootnote]

werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain non-Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

Ah, haven't read the "Action" part, but still, I can get 3 cards costing $5, right?

Yup! 

[Beyond Awesome]

Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.

You can't actually trash everything and get $3. Read the card again. And, Vagrant is more like a cheap Lab on boards with lots of yuck.

[LastFootnote]

Noble Brigand is to Thief as: Vagrant is to Scout, Scavenger is to Chancellor, Count is to Mandarin. A lot of weak cards getting updated to be strong.

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily. Works best if there is a card like Fishing Village that allows you to ignore Silver entirely.

Or grab poor house/squire on the two and hope they don't collide...

As long as there's an Attack on the board, you probably want Count and Squire to collide.

[Beyond Awesome]

werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain non-Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

No. It only gains Action cards.

[LastFootnote]

werothegreat, now we're talking. Tried to avoid all this talks, but no I cannot avoid it any longer. Time for updating the first thoughts post.

Haven't read the last comments, but Procession has no "if you do" clause, so this means I can play Procession+Feast to get 3 Duchies, right?

No. Procession itself can only gain non-Action cards, so you get two Duchies maximum from that.

No. It only gains Action cards.

Whoops! Typo. Thanks!

[blueblimp]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.

Ah good point. I got it in my head that you could trash 4 cards from hand like Chapel, but yeah it's only 3 at most. Although sometimes that can help it, since if it collides with a good card, you can put that card back on deck before trashing the rest.

[pst]

wow, all the card images are so dark.

What strikes me is that the main text on some cards have different size. That looks strange to me, at least when the cards are presented side-by-side like that.

[LastFootnote]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.

Ah good point. I got it in my head that you could trash 4 cards from hand like Chapel, but yeah it's only 3 at most. Although sometimes that can help it, since if it collides with a good card, you can put that card back on deck before trashing the rest.

Yeah, definitely. I think it's going to be a really powerful card that you have to use opportunistically.

[Kirian]

So this one time, at Bandit Camp, I gained a Spoils.

(Is that movie actually old enough that I'm dating myself?)

[LastFootnote]

So this one time, at Bandit Camp, I gained a Spoils.

(Is that movie actually old enough that I'm dating myself?)

I assumed you were quoting Warcraft 3 (which was itself referencing American Pie).

[Voltaire]

wow, all the card images are so dark.

What strikes me is that the main text on some cards have different size. That looks strange to me, at least when the cards are presented side-by-side like that.

Some are the actual cards, some are Goku versions (larger lettering).

[RisingJaguar]

Just making sure I have two things right.

Fortress can't really ever end up in the trash, because once you trash it, it would just end up back in your hand... Correct?

Count, the two options, the first set of actions (the discard 2...) needs to be done before the second set of actions (+$3....)

[LastFootnote]

Huh, I just realized that Ironmonger is different than I thought it was. When I saw it on Goko, I thought revealing an Action gave +$1, revealing a Victory card gave +1 Card, and that's it. (Treasure gave nothing.)

[Glooble]

Rinkworks and I totally designed a card almost exactly like band of misfits in the early days of the Fan Cards subforum. It's called Master of Disguise. I remember having multiple arguments about the wording and whether it should be a five or a six.

Note that you don't want to play one after a few Highways...

[LastFootnote]

Rinkworks and I totally designed a card almost exactly like band of misfits in the early days of the Fan Cards subforum. It's called Master of Disguise. I remember having multiple arguments about the wording and whether it should be a five or a six.

Note that you don't want to play one after a few Highways...

Well, not after 5 highways. Anything less than that should be fine.

[Kirian]

Rinkworks and I totally designed a card almost exactly like band of misfits in the early days of the Fan Cards subforum. It's called Master of Disguise. I remember having multiple arguments about the wording and whether it should be a five or a six.

Note that you don't want to play one after a few Highways...

I knew it had been done!  I just couldn't remember where, when, or by whom.

[Beyond Awesome]

Huh, I just realized that Ironmonger is different than I thought it was. When I saw it on Goko, I thought revealing an Action gave +$1, revealing a Victory card gave +1 Card, and that's it. (Treasure gave nothing.)

I love how you also have the option of discarding the card, so you reveal a victory card, discard the victory card and then draw another card. In some cases, this will likely be better than Lab.

Also, Procession seems like it will be this set's KC, but mostly works best with other DA cards. Procession and Cultist, your opponent gets two Ruins and you draw seven cards. And, you gain a gold or some good $6 card. And, Procession Fortress seems fun.

[pst]

Some are the actual cards, some are Goku versions (larger lettering).

Ah, then I'm relieved!

[Watno]

The wording on ironmonger seems a bit strange to me. If you dont discard the revealed card, i assume it goes back to the top of the deck, but it doesnt explicitely say so.

[MrFrog]

That's the basic rule for 'revealing'.

[Beyond Awesome]

The wording on ironmonger seems a bit strange to me. If you dont discard the revealed card, i assume it goes back to the top of the deck, but it doesnt explicitely say so.

I believe the word reveal implies that it is still on the deck.

[Watno]

is there any other card doing it that way?

[rinkworks]

Rinkworks and I totally designed a card almost exactly like band of misfits in the early days of the Fan Cards subforum. It's called Master of Disguise. I remember having multiple arguments about the wording and whether it should be a five or a six.

I settled on $7 for my own games.  But that had a hard limit of "up to $5" not "less than this," which in retrospect is nice in the same way that Border Village is.  The "less than this" version probably works at any price, because as it gets more expensive, it gets more powerful.

I've played many games with it, and I can say that the "supply pile can't be empty" restriction can be really interesting.

[michaeljb]

The wording on ironmonger seems a bit strange to me. If you dont discard the revealed card, i assume it goes back to the top of the deck, but it doesnt explicitely say so.

That's the basic rule for 'revealing'.

Yup, just like Wishing Well.

[rinkworks]

I like that sometimes Ruined Library draws more cards than the real Library.

[Beyond Awesome]

Actually, the discard effect of Iron Monger is pretty good, now that I think of it. Reveal a copper, discard it and get +$, discard a Victory and draw a card, and well I guess when it hits actions, it's pretty situational.

[Donald X.]

What strikes me is that the main text on some cards have different size. That looks strange to me, at least when the cards are presented side-by-side like that.

It's because some of those images are from the .pdf, and some are from goko, and goko does not use the actual full images, it stores the text and art and stuff and pieces it together. Which, hey, means the text is more readable.

[brokoli]

Ok, all cards are very interesting. Especially band of misfits.
But I am really disappointed by the artwork. Hinterlands was so beautiful... and Dark ages is so ugly. Well, except Altar, Bandit camp and Feodum. Otherwise, I seem to have found artwork of the base set...

[Donald X.]

Just making sure I have two things right.

Fortress can't really ever end up in the trash, because once you trash it, it would just end up back in your hand... Correct?

Count, the two options, the first set of actions (the discard 2...) needs to be done before the second set of actions (+$3....)

Yes, Fortress cannot end up in the trash. You would need a way to put cards in the trash without trashing them, and that card only survives in the secret history.

You completely resolve the first choice for Count before the second choice, yes.

[() | (_) ^/]

Just making sure I have two things right.

Fortress can't really ever end up in the trash, because once you trash it, it would just end up back in your hand... Correct?

Count, the two options, the first set of actions (the discard 2...) needs to be done before the second set of actions (+$3....)

Yes, Fortress cannot end up in the trash. You would need a way to put cards in the trash without trashing them, and that card only survives in the secret history.

You completely resolve the first choice for Count before the second choice, yes.

Or by having an impersonal (non-player) trasher.  Like the game is trashing your cards instead of you or your opponent(s) or something, thus not having a hand to go into.

[pst]

Or by having an impersonal (non-player) trasher.  Like the game is trashing your cards

In Soviet Russia, card trashes you!

[HiveMindEmulator]

Actually, the discard effect of Iron Monger is pretty good, now that I think of it. Reveal a copper, discard it and get +$, discard a Victory and draw a card, and well I guess when it hits actions, it's pretty situational.

If it hits a Copper, it's almost just like a Lab (except in those situations where $1 is not the same as having the Copper), and if it hits a victory card, it's like a double Lab (again unless it matters that the victory card is in your hand). The thing that makes it not a $5 card is that you can't really just make a huge stack of these, or they end up just villages. But then put them in an action-heavy deck, and they function just fine as villages.

[thirtyseven]

It's probably no big deal because one's a potion card, but Procession could get confused with Possession like Mine/Mint

[Voltgloss]

But how do they combo with Scout???

...actually, Feodum/Count/Scout sounds intriguing.

[werothegreat]

It's probably no big deal because one's a potion card, but Procession could get confused with Possession like Mine/Mint

"I Possession my Grand Market to gain a King's Court!"

"Um... not how it works... anyway, hope you enjoy my hand of all Estates."

[Insomniac]

But how do they combo with Scout???

...actually, Feodum/Count/Scout sounds intriguing.

Scouts bad and it should feel bad, Vagrant is half its cost and does twice the work!

[zahlman]

Wait, am I reading this right? Procession is the same cost as TR, and then it does TR plus a free Upgrading of the Action card? That may not be "strictly better" but it sure sounds more powerful on average...

[AJD]

Wait, am I reading this right? Procession is the same cost as TR, and then it does TR plus a free Upgrading of the Action card? That may not be "strictly better" but it sure sounds more powerful on average...

Until you want to TR a Wharf in a kingdom with no $6 actions....

[AJD]

Oh say... Procession with Duration cards? Is there a tracking problem, or am I missing something?

[sherwinpr]

Rinkworks and I totally designed a card almost exactly like band of misfits in the early days of the Fan Cards subforum. It's called Master of Disguise. I remember having multiple arguments about the wording and whether it should be a five or a six.

Note that you don't want to play one after a few Highways...

This is the thread:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=417.0

I totally remember this, and I immediately thought of this when I saw Band of Misfits!  I even came up with my own way of designing it, but I never posted it.  Here's how mine would work (it was originally priced at 6, like Master of Disguise).  It ends up working slightly differently in practice.

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Play an action card from the supply costing less than this, stacking it on this card.
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When a card stacked here would be discarded during the clean up phase, instead return it to its supply.  Do not discard this card from play if there is card stacked on here.
So cards like Feast, Island, etc. would decrease the supply by one, whereas most cards wouldn't.  Throne Room/King's court (and now, Procession) could use this to trigger multiple cards.  Most other cards (including durations) should work the same way, although the supply limit is crucial.

[ftl]

Wait, am I reading this right? Procession is the same cost as TR, and then it does TR plus a free Upgrading of the Action card? That may not be "strictly better" but it sure sounds more powerful on average...

You can't do it to your expensive actions, because the thing you gain HAS to cost exactly 1 more.

That's actually a pretty big drawback. You can't Process a King's Court, for example, without losing the King's Court and gaining nothing in return. Same for whatever the most expensive action around is. If it's a kingdom with lots of juicy $5 actions but no $6 actions, you can't Process a $5 action without losing it.

Oh say... Procession with Duration cards? Is there a tracking problem, or am I missing something?

Yes, there's a tracking problem; I think Donald said that well, you just have to remember.

[SuperHans]

Am I understanding this correctly? When you play a Procession with a Goons, you will not receive victory points when you purchase a card because the Goons is trashed and therefore not in play.

[ftl]

Hah! Yep, that seems true, the way it's phrased. Another example in which this is worse than Throne Room.

Same with Highway, you don't get any benefit of cost reduction. Doesn't reduce the cost of Peddler I think?

[Axxle]

Rinkworks and I totally designed a card almost exactly like band of misfits in the early days of the Fan Cards subforum. It's called Master of Disguise. I remember having multiple arguments about the wording and whether it should be a five or a six.

Note that you don't want to play one after a few Highways...

I tried making a card similar, but it actually gained the cards in hand and trashed itself or something.

[werothegreat]

Someone suggested something very similar to Procession in one of the guessing threads - I believe they called it "Last Stand."  It was essentially the same, but without the Upgrade.

[Axxle]

Someone suggested something very similar to Procession in one of the guessing threads - I believe they called it "Last Stand."  It was essentially the same, but without the Upgrade.

I think I saw a card similar to "Last Stand", but without the trashing.

[Voltgloss]

[werothegreat]

Count!  All the Rats!

ONE Rat!  Ah ah ah!

TWO Rats!  Ah ah ah!

THREE oh hell no, I'm outta here.

[SuperHans]

Hah! Yep, that seems true, the way it's phrased. Another example in which this is worse than Throne Room.

Same with Highway, you don't get any benefit of cost reduction. Doesn't reduce the cost of Peddler I think?

I think it'll really depend on the kingdom whether Procession is a good card or not. From the revealed cards, it looks like Procession will combo best with Squire, Fortress, and Ruins.

Squire: When you play Procession with a Squire, you get to choose between [+2 actions, +2 buys, gain a silver] TWICE, then you gain an action attack card (thank you michaeljb), and then you also gain a $3 action card. Procession/Squire will be a great opening.

Fortress: This will be like playing a King's Court with a village, but with the added benefit of gaining a $5 action card. You play it twice, trash it, gain it back and play it a third time.

Ruins: Without a better trasher such as remake or chapel, Procession will play decently with ruins. Either you get a +$2, +2 buy, +2 actions, +2 cards, or the chance to discard or rearrange the top cards of the deck twice, and then you trash it goodbye. This all changes though if Poor House (or a yet unrevealed $1 action card) is in the kingdom.

Also, off the top of my head, Procession could pair nicely with Border Village if there is a good $5 card. Play the $5 card twice, trash it and gain a border village, and then gain back the $5 card. It'd be like playing a TR but you also gain a border village.

[zahlman]

Wait, so it actually is called Count?

And here, when I saw the post alluding to that as an acronym, I was assuming that 'of', as a "little word", was to be omitted from the intended acronym...

[michaeljb]

Squire: When you play Procession with a Squire, you get to choose between [+2 actions, +2 buys, gain a silver] TWICE, then you gain an action attack card, and then you gain a $3 action card. Procession/Squire will be a great an even better opening.

[jsh357]

Wait, so it actually is called Count?

One, two, three options!  Ah!  Ah!  Ah!

[andwilk]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Slightly disappointed that there is only one Looter in the set.  I thought there would be at least one more card that hands out Ruins.

[Beyond Awesome]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Slightly disappointed that there is only one Looter in the set.  I thought there would be at least one more card that hands out Ruins.

Good point, this works better than Chancellor in that you now only need three Stash to make it work. Also, having two Scavenger's let's you always top deck the other Scavenger. Much, much better than Chancellor/Stash.

[SuperHans]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Slightly disappointed that there is only one Looter in the set.  I thought there would be at least one more card that hands out Ruins.

There are still 16 kingdom cards to be revealed (excluding Armory), two of which are confirmed to be Looters. There is also 1 more non-supply card left to be revealed.

[andwilk]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Slightly disappointed that there is only one Looter in the set.  I thought there would be at least one more card that hands out Ruins.

There are still 16 kingdom cards to be revealed (excluding Armory), two of which are confirmed to be Looters. There is also 1 more non-supply card left to be revealed.

My bad... I forgot the set was so large!

[LastFootnote]

Wait, so it actually is called Count?

And here, when I saw the post alluding to that as an acronym, I was assuming that 'of', as a "little word", was to be omitted from the intended acronym...

That's why I capitalized the 'O'. Although had I realized that possibility, I would have found another word for that letter.

[petrie911]

So, what happens if I play Band of Misfits as an Island?  Does it get set aside?  Do the set aside cards return to my deck, since Band of Misfits no longer has Island's text that says to do so?

[werothegreat]

So, what happens if I play Band of Misfits as an Island?  Does it get set aside?  Do the set aside cards return to my deck, since Band of Misfits no longer has Island's text that says to do so?

I'd imagine it gets set aside.  That would be a terrible waste of a Band of Misfits, though.

[petrie911]

Well, it's something to consider in Possession games.

Also, is the art for Survivors based on another card?  The other 4 are fairly clear, but I can't place that one.

EDIT: One more thing.  Ironworks + Watchtower + Fortress.  Gain Fortress, trash it to put it in your hand, play it with he action from ironworks.

[werothegreat]

Well, it's something to consider in Possession games.

Also, is the art for Survivors based on another card?  The other 4 are fairly clear, but I can't place that one.

EDIT: One more thing.  Ironworks + Watchtower + Fortress.  Gain Fortress, trash it to put it in your hand, play it with he action from ironworks.

See, all of these neat little tricks would be a lot more useful if Fortress was more than just a Village.  Sure, you can Process it and put it back in your hand, or Watchtower it or whatever, but at the end of the day, it's just a Village.

[Loschmidt]

My initial thoughts on Count:

WHAT WAS DONALD SMOKING! Count has 9 options! 9! My housemate has enough AP when he plays a pawn.

My more measured later thoughts on Count:

I love this card. I love that all of the first set of options make the "trash your hand" option simultaneously better and worse! They slow Count down to being slower than Chapel in the early game, but in the middle game they help you protect your valuable cards.

I also love that this card has really strong alt-vp support. How many cards are you equally happy to buy when going gardens or an engine?

Basically when do I not want a Count?

[Loschmidt]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Wow i hadn't thought about that. It's stronger than chancellor/stash because you can use the Scavenger to sync your 4 Stashes with a gold. After 4 Stashes and a Gold every Scavenger is a colony next turn.

[pst]

So, what happens if I play Band of Misfits as an Island?  Does it get set aside?  Do the set aside cards return to my deck, since Band of Misfits no longer has Island's text that says to do so?

Yes, it is set aside.

They will be returned to your deck. "Return them to your deck at the end of your game" on Island is a redundant reminder, since the game rules also say "Each player puts all of his cards into his Deck" at Game End.

[kn1tt3r]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Wow i hadn't thought about that. It's stronger than chancellor/stash because you can use the Scavenger to sync your 4 Stashes with a gold. After 4 Stashes and a Gold every Scavenger is a colony next turn.

Even more for Provinces: Just buy 3 Stashs and 2 Scavengers and sync the second Scavenger with the 3 Stashs every turn.

This is even far easier to build up than Chancellor/Stash, where you usually need 4 Stashs and 2-3 Chancellors to play them frequently.

[Qvist]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Wow i hadn't thought about that. It's stronger than chancellor/stash because you can use the Scavenger to sync your 4 Stashes with a gold. After 4 Stashes and a Gold every Scavenger is a colony next turn.

Even more for Provinces: Just buy 3 Stashs and 2 Scavengers and sync the second Scavenger with the 3 Stashs every turn.

This is for easier to build up than Chancellor/Stash, where you usually need 4 Stashs and 2-3 Chancellors to play the frequently.

Yeah, I noticed that too yesterday. That seems really powerful.

Scavenger/Stash is now even more powerful than Chancellor/Stash. With 2 Scavengers and 3 Stashes you basically have a guaranteed Province.

There's still the possibility to draw the second Scavenger in hand. But just add one more Stash and you're golden. Only discard attacks can hurt then.

[Loschmidt]

Even more for Provinces: Just buy 3 Stashs and 2 Scavengers and sync the second Scavenger with the 3 Stashs every turn.

!

[eHalcyon]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Wow i hadn't thought about that. It's stronger than chancellor/stash because you can use the Scavenger to sync your 4 Stashes with a gold. After 4 Stashes and a Gold every Scavenger is a colony next turn.

Even more for Provinces: Just buy 3 Stashs and 2 Scavengers and sync the second Scavenger with the 3 Stashs every turn.

This is for easier to build up than Chancellor/Stash, where you usually need 4 Stashs and 2-3 Chancellors to play the frequently.

Yeah, I noticed that too yesterday. That seems really powerful.

Scavenger/Stash is now even more powerful than Chancellor/Stash. With 2 Scavengers and 3 Stashes you basically have a guaranteed Province.

There's still the possibility to draw the second Scavenger in hand. But just add one more Stash and you're golden. Only discard attacks can hurt then.

Adding a third Scavenger is cheaper.

[Beyond Awesome]

Scavenger/Stash FTW

Wow i hadn't thought about that. It's stronger than chancellor/stash because you can use the Scavenger to sync your 4 Stashes with a gold. After 4 Stashes and a Gold every Scavenger is a colony next turn.

Even more for Provinces: Just buy 3 Stashs and 2 Scavengers and sync the second Scavenger with the 3 Stashs every turn.

This is for easier to build up than Chancellor/Stash, where you usually need 4 Stashs and 2-3 Chancellors to play the frequently.

Yeah, I noticed that too yesterday. That seems really powerful.

Scavenger/Stash is now even more powerful than Chancellor/Stash. With 2 Scavengers and 3 Stashes you basically have a guaranteed Province.

There's still the possibility to draw the second Scavenger in hand. But just add one more Stash and you're golden. Only discard attacks can hurt then.

Adding a third Scavenger is cheaper.

Yah. I don't really see the point of a fourth Stash with this combo. In my opinion, that would slow you down. In case for some rare reason, the Scavenger was in your hand with the other three Stash's and other Scavenger, I think you should just buy green because eventually you will hit that Scavenger again, and it's all Province from there.

[Loschmidt]

My initial thoughts on Count:

WHAT WAS DONALD SMOKING! Count has 9 options! 9! My housemate has enough AP when he plays a pawn.

My more measured later thoughts on Count:

I love this card. I love that all of the first set of options make the "trash your hand" option simultaneously better and worse! They slow Count down to being slower than Chapel in the early game, but in the middle game they help you protect your valuable cards.

I also love that this card has really strong alt-vp support. How many cards are you equally happy to buy when going gardens or an engine?

Basically when do I not want a Count?

While further thinking about Count on the bus home I've realised just how finely balanced Count is.

So the first set of options of meh options are there to perfectly balance the second set of awesome options.

+$3 is always awesome; discarding, top decking and copper gaining all slow it down.
"trash your hand"; super powerful at the beginning - discard, top deck and copper gain slow it down. Hard to set up during the mid-game; discard and top-deck help you keep your good cards safe.
"gain a duchy"; going for a duchy early seems like an alt-vp strategy, have a copper! Or maybe you've just started greening and hit $4, in that case top deck your best treasure for a better shot at province next turn.

[PitzerMike]

Clever to put the "return to hand when trashed" thing on a village.
It combos well with some of the DA cards but as a village it can still be useful in games without them.

[lespeutere]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.

I'm not sure whether I'm not getting it or you guys?! You don't need to discard two cards in order to trash. So you may still trash 4 cards (well, if you choose to gain a copper).

[Loschmidt]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.

I'm not sure whether I'm not getting it or you guys?! You don't need to discard two cards in order to trash. So you may still trash 4 cards (well, if you choose to gain a copper).

If you gain a copper its basically like you only trashed 3 cards.

[andwilk]

From what we have seen so far from Dark Ages, I expect Develop and Upgrade to make a big step up in the rankings on Qvist's Best Cards lists.

[lespeutere]

Oh, and Count is a ridiculous 5/2 opening. Open Count, trash EVERYTHING, use the $3 to buy Silver, and continue on happily.

Nope. "Trash your hand" and "+$3" are mutually exclusive.

I meant trash down to 1 card (just Count) first, then use the $3 option.

Well, that's slow. If you have Count in hand with 4 cards you want to trash, you have to discard 2 of them, put one back on your deck, or gain a Copper. So you're really only removing 3 cards max per play. As Donald has said elsewhere, a Chapel that can only trash 3 cards is just much, much slower.

I'm not sure whether I'm not getting it or you guys?! You don't need to discard two cards in order to trash. So you may still trash 4 cards (well, if you choose to gain a copper).

If you gain a copper its basically like you only trashed 3 cards.

Yeah, I got that (which is what I wanted to make clear by my half sentence in brackets). But it's still not like: you need to discard 2 cards before you can trash your hand. And to make this clear (at least to those who don't know), though I guess we both know we're talking about early game situations: if you have more than 5 cards in hand, you don't just trash 3 cards.

[werothegreat]

My initial thoughts on Count:

WHAT WAS DONALD SMOKING! Count has 9 options! 9! My housemate has enough AP when he plays a pawn.

My more measured later thoughts on Count:

I love this card. I love that all of the first set of options make the "trash your hand" option simultaneously better and worse! They slow Count down to being slower than Chapel in the early game, but in the middle game they help you protect your valuable cards.

I also love that this card has really strong alt-vp support. How many cards are you equally happy to buy when going gardens or an engine?

Basically when do I not want a Count?

While further thinking about Count on the bus home I've realised just how finely balanced Count is.

So the first set of options of meh options are there to perfectly balance the second set of awesome options.

+$3 is always awesome; discarding, top decking and copper gaining all slow it down.
"trash your hand"; super powerful at the beginning - discard, top deck and copper gain slow it down. Hard to set up during the mid-game; discard and top-deck help you keep your good cards safe.
"gain a duchy"; going for a duchy early seems like an alt-vp strategy, have a copper! Or maybe you've just started greening and hit $4, in that case top deck your best treasure for a better shot at province next turn.

I expect DoubleCount will be the new DoubleJack.

[Squidd]

All the talk about Misfits is focusing on the weirder rules implications, but I'm trying to figure out how often I'll even want it. I looked at a few random tables and sure, sometimes I could see some nice uses (Baron if you have an Estate, Monument if you don't; JoaT until you need it to be Tournament). But other times it would be like, Moat with no reaction/Great Hall with no VP, or Pawn/Smugglers/Masq/Brigand, and man, that is not flexibility I need.

[werothegreat]

Instead of buying engine components, just buy Bands of Misfits.  Tired of drawing a hand of all Smithies with no Villages?  If that were a hand full of Bands of Misfits, you could pick one to be the Village, and another to be the Smithy!  Or make one of them Scout, and the next two Wishing Wells.  Saves you the trouble of actually buying Scouts and Wishing Wells, which always makes me feel like I wasted my Buy.

[Qvist]

Instead of buying engine components, just buy Bands of Misfits.  Tired of drawing a hand of all Smithies with no Villages?  If that were a hand full of Bands of Misfits, you could pick one to be the Village, and another to be the Smithy!  Or make one of them Scout, and the next two Wishing Wells.  Saves you the trouble of actually buying Scouts and Wishing Wells, which always makes me feel like I wasted my Buy.

Yeah, but you can only use cards costing up to $4. When you're building an engine you mostly use at least one key card costing $5 or more. And spending always at least $5 for a $3 or $4 card is also very slow. Band of Misfits will be good, I think. But don't buy too much of them.

[GendoIkari]

Ha, I totally called Ruined Library over Ruined Smithy!!

[GendoIkari]

I have to say, I really dislike the wording of "trash your hand." That same wording has been used on several fan cards, and I've always had a problem with it. It really should be "trash all cards in your hand." Even though the meaning of the first is pretty clear, it just seems more accurate to say the second. Then again, I guess the same wording on Minion never bothered me, but I think that's because "discard your hand" is a very common phrase in card games.

Am I the only one?

[Cuzz]

Man those previews last week spoiled me. I was hoping we'd get the rest of the set spoiled at 9 am ET also. Can't wait to see what that other card that gives Spoils is!

[Grujah]

2 Scavangers + 3 Stashes = guaranteed Province every turn. (Aside from discard attacks). 5 Stashes for Colony.

Fortress + Rats/Upgrade + Watchtower (or empty discard) = Empty Rats and/or Upgrade pile in one go.


Whoah.

[mnavratil]

2 Scavangers + 3 Stashes = guaranteed Province every turn. (Aside from discard attacks). 5 Stashes for Colony.

Fortress + Rats/Upgrade + Watchtower (or empty discard) = Empty Rats and/or Upgrade pile in one go.


Whoah.

Yeah, I was thinking about some of these cool Fortress interactions too. Trying to find unique uses for fortress will be a lot of fun!

[nomnomnom]

2 Scavangers +  5 Stashes for Colony.

That doesn't quite work. 
You still only have a 5 card hand. You would need a Wishing Well / Lab but then you can't put the Scavanger back so you need a 6th Stash and you can't do it every turn.

[mistergross]

Wow, Band of Misfits makes Scout 2x awesome. Not sure what to copy? As if. It's like you have 20 Scouts to buy, except one of the piles is more accurate to Scout's real value.

[Qvist]

GenCon now opened its doors. I hope we will soon get the remaining spoilers.

[Hockey Mask]

It hurts even more knowing I'm only 5 miles from it. 

[rinkworks]

All the talk about Misfits is focusing on the weirder rules implications, but I'm trying to figure out how often I'll even want it. I looked at a few random tables and sure, sometimes I could see some nice uses (Baron if you have an Estate, Monument if you don't; JoaT until you need it to be Tournament). But other times it would be like, Moat with no reaction/Great Hall with no VP, or Pawn/Smugglers/Masq/Brigand, and man, that is not flexibility I need.

Some ideas:

Village + Conspirator - Substitute any $2-$4 cantrip for Village.  Basically, Misfits becomes a Conspirator if those are activated, and a Conspirator-activator if they aren't.

Hag/YW + All-Purpose Card - Issue curses until they run out, then be a Caravan, Oasis, Pawn, or whatever other general-purpose kicker card might be available.

Trasher + All-Purpose Card - Be a Chapel, Moneylender, Spice Merchant, etc, until you've trashed down enough, then be something else.

Collider + All-Purpose Card - Some cards only work if they collide with other cards.  Be a Throne Room, Treasure Map, Baron, Crossroads, Tournament, Coppersmith, etc, only if the hand is right for it.  Otherwise, be something else.

[Grujah]

2 Scavangers +  5 Stashes for Colony.

That doesn't quite work. 
You still only have a 5 card hand. You would need a Wishing Well / Lab but then you can't put the Scavanger back so you need a 6th Stash and you can't do it every turn.

Uh, true.

[mnavratil]

Is it just me, or has everyone been changing avatars like crazy lately? I keep getting confused.

[jsh357]

So I dunno if this is legit, but I noticed this card selector has cards with unfamiliar names:
http://users.resourceinternational.com/~nmx/games/Dominion/getRandomDominionKingdomCards.cgi

So far I've seen "Junk Dealer" and "Catacombs."  If it's real, where did this guy get his information?

[NoMoreFun]

So I dunno if this is legit, but I noticed this card selector has cards with unfamiliar names:
http://users.resourceinternational.com/~nmx/games/Dominion/getRandomDominionKingdomCards.cgi

So far I've seen "Junk Dealer" and "Catacombs."  If it's real, where did this guy get his information?

I got "forager" (action, cost 5), "counterfeit" (treasure, cost 0) "rebuild" (action, cost 5), "Hunting Grounds" (action, cost 6), "Mystic" (action, cost 5)

[jsh357]

So I dunno if this is legit, but I noticed this card selector has cards with unfamiliar names:
http://users.resourceinternational.com/~nmx/games/Dominion/getRandomDominionKingdomCards.cgi

So far I've seen "Junk Dealer" and "Catacombs."  If it's real, where did this guy get his information?

I got "forager"

If you exclude all sets but Dark Ages, you can see all the names.  They don't have card descriptions though.

Browsing BGG's forums, it looks like "Dame Anna" is part of a stack of 10 differently-named "Knights" cards.  Interesting.

[Ozle]

Knight looks like its the extra supply pile then

[NoMoreFun]

One of the new ones is "Death Cart". I believe someone posted a link to one of the artist's flickrs that showed something very much like this.

[cooperaa]

So I dunno if this is legit, but I noticed this card selector has cards with unfamiliar names:
http://users.resourceinternational.com/~nmx/games/Dominion/getRandomDominionKingdomCards.cgi

So far I've seen "Junk Dealer" and "Catacombs."  If it's real, where did this guy get his information?

I got "forager" (action, cost 5), "counterfeit" (treasure, cost 0) "rebuild" (action, cost 5), "Hunting Grounds" (action, cost 6), "Mystic" (action, cost 5)

Market Square (cost $3) appears to be some sort of reaction.
Death Cart (cost $4)
Marauder (cost $4)

[Ozle]

Beggar
Catacombs
Death Cart
Market Square
Pillage
Rebuild
Sage
Rogue
Vagrant
Feodum
Count
Graverobber
Altar
Forager
Bandit Camp
Armory
Fortress
Hunting Grounds
Ironmonger
Band of Misfits
Hermit
Junk Dealer
Marauder
Cultist
Mystic
Counterfeit
Poor House
Procession
Rats
Scavenger
Squire
Storeroom
Urchin
Wandering Minstrel
[Knight]

[mnavratil]

Somebody had better post these cards up soon. I'm getting all twitchy.

[Hockey Mask]

DEATH CART! 

Somebody better not be messing with me.

[Grujah]

Hey, also, like.. Counterfeit, for example:




(this is legit)

or.. Hunting Grounds.

[Tmwinand]

I have

http://riograndegames.com/uploads/Game/Game_481_gameRules.pdf

On refresh waiting for something to pop up!

[() | (_) ^/]

.

[adf]

I found another knight - Sir Bailey

http://iof25.com/?q=personal_gallery/Joshua/Stewart

[Ozle]

I found another knight - Sir Bailey

http://iof25.com/?q=personal_gallery/Joshua/Stewart

Also, Vagrant is on there

[rinkworks]

Gah, I thought you meant you found the card texts!

[Hockey Mask]

Sir Donald

Gain a Province
You may play this card again.

[mnavratil]

Vagrant is posted on page 2 of this thread FYI. I missed it at first.

[Grujah]

This one looks fun (mystic):



 

[NoMoreFun]

Am I correct in thinking there are no $6+ cards?

[jsh357]

Am I correct in thinking there are no $6+ cards?

Altar is $6

[werothegreat]

Grujah - where are you getting this art?

[Voltaire]

Where did everybody go? If the cards have been posted somewhere else on the internet, be so kind as to humor us with a link...

[Vampyroteuthis Infernalis]

I'm excited for processions of rats.

[Grujah]

Procession + Border Village 

[LastFootnote]

Procession + Border Village 

…I don't get it. Is there a $7 Action you want, or something?

[novalis]

I can't wait to Develop a Spice Merchant into a Sage and a Mint.  Also, I'm really looking forward to seeing what Parsley, Rosemary, and Thyme do!

[Beyond Awesome]

Procession + Border Village 

…I don't get it. Is there a $7 Action you want, or something?

He means, play a $5 twice, trash it, Gain BV, gaining the card you just trashed.

[Grujah]

And make that card a torturer.

[Beyond Awesome]

And make that card a torturer.

Procession with Torturer/BV would be pretty insane.

[Thisisnotasmile]

I need to do the washing up but I REALLY don't want to leave the internet right now... HURRY UP PEOPLE.

[Hockey Mask]

I need to do the washing up but I REALLY don't want to leave the internet right now... HURRY UP PEOPLE.

Better go now because you won't be budging once it hits.

[Thisisnotasmile]

If it hits before my better half gets home from work, I'll have a reason to have not done it

[eHalcyon]

And make that card a torturer.

Procession with Torturer/BV would be pretty insane.

Might as well add KC or maybe even Bank in there, so you can Procession that BV too.

[Grujah]

You can only gain an action, IIRC, so no Bank.

[eHalcyon]

You can only gain an action, IIRC, so no Bank.

Oops, my bad.

[meow]

You can only gain an action, IIRC, so no Bank.

Oops, my bad.

Fine ... will just have to settle for the clearly inferior King's Court and since you don't really want to Process a $7 ... Expand and do it the other way around .

As for Band of Misfits, I immediately thought of boards with lots of interesting $2-$4 but nothing at $5 (or just Outpost, Mint, or Mine).  On most boards it seems a most spammable (if not most powerful) $5 card.

[platykurtic]

Where did everybody go? If the cards have been posted somewhere else on the internet, be so kind as to humor us with a link...

A bit more info is trickling out in this thread:
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4099.0

Beggar
Action/Reaction
Cost: 2

Gain 3 Coppers, putting them into your hand
.                                                 
When another player plays an Attack card, you may discard this. If you do gain 2 Silvers putting one on top of your deck.

Also it appears the last non-supply pile is Knights, which consists of 10 (!?) different cards in a pile with names like Dame Anna and Sir Bailey

There's a bunch of card names and costs too

[() | (_) ^/]

I need to do the washing up but I REALLY don't want to leave the internet right now... HURRY UP PEOPLE.

For you Britons, what does "do the washing up" mean?  I can see this as either what I call "taking a shower" or "doing my laundry."  Is it either of those?  If so, which?  If not, then what?

[Hockey Mask]

I was too scared to ask.

[Thisisnotasmile]

I need to do the washing up but I REALLY don't want to leave the internet right now... HURRY UP PEOPLE.

For you Britons, what does "do the washing up" mean?  I can see this as either what I call "taking a shower" or "doing my laundry."  Is it either of those?  If so, which?  If not, then what?

Neither. Washing cutlery and other kitcheny stuff. I have done it now.

[Hockey Mask]

AKA "Doin' dishes"

[chwhite]

Where did everybody go? If the cards have been posted somewhere else on the internet, be so kind as to humor us with a link...

A bit more info is trickling out in this thread:
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4099.0

Beggar
Action/Reaction
Cost: 2

Gain 3 Coppers, putting them into your hand
.                                                 
When another player plays an Attack card, you may discard this. If you do gain 2 Silvers putting one on top of your deck.

Also it appears the last non-supply pile is Knights, which consists of 10 (!?) different cards in a pile with names like Dame Anna and Sir Bailey

There's a bunch of card names and costs too

Actually it looks like Knights is a supply pile, if I'm not mistaken?

[() | (_) ^/]

I need to do the washing up but I REALLY don't want to leave the internet right now... HURRY UP PEOPLE.

For you Britons, what does "do the washing up" mean?  I can see this as either what I call "taking a shower" or "doing my laundry."  Is it either of those?  If so, which?  If not, then what?

Neither. Washing cutlery and other kitcheny stuff. I have done it now.

AKA "Doin' dishes"

Dang.  Missed that one.  Thanks for the clarification, tinas. 

[Beyond Awesome]

Where did everybody go? If the cards have been posted somewhere else on the internet, be so kind as to humor us with a link...

A bit more info is trickling out in this thread:
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4099.0

Beggar
Action/Reaction
Cost: 2

Gain 3 Coppers, putting them into your hand
.                                                 
When another player plays an Attack card, you may discard this. If you do gain 2 Silvers putting one on top of your deck.

Also it appears the last non-supply pile is Knights, which consists of 10 (!?) different cards in a pile with names like Dame Anna and Sir Bailey

There's a bunch of card names and costs too

Actually it looks like Knights is a supply pile, if I'm not mistaken?

Yes, Knights is a supply pile. The last upgrade pile is Mercenary.

[Beyond Awesome]

From another thread.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4102.msg88674#msg88674

Here's the corrected version of those cards from Kuildeous:

Mystic
$5

+1 Action
+$2

Name a card. Reveal the top card of your deck. If it's the named card, put it into your hand.


Catacombs
$5

Look at the top 3 cards of your deck. Choose one: Put them into your hand; or discard them and +3 Cards.

When you trash this, gain a cheaper card.

Storeroom
$3

+1 Buy

Discard any number of cards. +1 Card per card discarded. Discard any number of cards. +$1 per card discarded the second time.

[xitoliv]

http://ddacards.imgur.com/all/

You can't really read them, but somebody posted this in a BGG thread..

[Tdog]

A 4 type card in Dame Joesphine? WOW!!

[Auto-Destruct Sequence]

They might be blurry but I was able to read them all.