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[Beyond Awesome]

Since Band of Misfits is being allowed to be discussed here, I felt I should post the other cards for those interested and who may have walked into the BoM thread wondering what was going on. http://www.reddit.com/r/dominion/comments/y7vuv/unconfirmed_dark_ages_spoilers/

[Donald X.]

Again I confirm these cards, subject to what the poster says about forgetting names and things. They have been leaked, I would rather they hadn't been but there they are, pretending they aren't there isn't accomplishing anything. Discuss them all you want.

[Beyond Awesome]

Altar seems interesting. It is expensive at $6, and it is terminal. But, it is a super upgrade, now, instead of trashing curses and coppers, you can transform them into any $5 cost card including Duchy's. With Highway, this card seems like it would be amazing. However, I'm not sure on the power level of this card because it cost $6.

[Voltaire]

I won't reveal the name or the missing choices for the one with all the choices, but I personally plan on spending a lot of time trying to figure out what combinations it would take to make the card worthwhile. AP in the best way, I say!

[Donald X.]

I won't reveal the name or the missing choices for the one with all the choices, but I personally plan on spending a lot of time trying to figure out what combinations it would take to make the card worthwhile. AP in the best way, I say!

The reddit thread says "gain a Duchy" and I confirm that.

[AJD]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

[AJD]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

(Though I guess unlike Remodel, Expand, Transmute, etc., the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card.)

[mnavratil]

Copying these from the linked post then, so we can discuss. 

Altar - $6
Trash a card from your hand, gain a card costing up to $5

Band of Misfits - $5
Play this as if it were an Action card in the Supply costing less than it that you choose. This is that card until it leaves play.

Bandit Camp - $5
it's a village that gives you a spoils when you play it

Scavenger - $4
+$2
you may put your deck in your discard pile, look through your discard pile and put one card on top of your deck

Ironmonger - $4
+1 card +1 action
reveal the top card of your deck, you may discard it if it is an (action, treasure, victory) +1 action, +1$, +1card

Armory - $4
gain a card costing up to $4, place it on your deck

Procession- $4
Choose a card from your hand, play it twice, trash it, gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more.

Fortress - $4
+2 actions, +1 card
when trashed, return this card to your hand

? - $5
Choose 1 (discard 2 cards, return a card to the top of your deck, gain a copper)
Choose 1 (+$3, trash your hand, Gain a Duchy)

Edit: Keeping up to date with comments below. Will fill in with more/better info if possible.

[Beyond Awesome]

I won't reveal the name or the missing choices for the one with all the choices, but I personally plan on spending a lot of time trying to figure out what combinations it would take to make the card worthwhile. AP in the best way, I say!

The card seems like it would be very good in Duke games. Buy two or three of these, and then start going for Duchy's. Seems like a good strategy.

[ftl]

The card seems like it would be very good in Duke games. Buy two or three of these, and then start going for Duchy's. Seems like a good strategy.

If you buy 2 or 3 of these while your opponent is buying Duchies, you'll never catch up, and by the time you play it a few times the Duchies will be out.

Might be good if your opponent isn't contesting Duchies and is going for an engine.

It is going to be pretty versatile in the end-game, though, almost a gold for 5. If you need all the cards in your hand for this to get you a province? Gain a copper. If you have dead cards in hand? Discard two. If you have more money than you need? Save up for next turn. If you can't buy a province anyway? Save your best treasure for next turn, and gain a duchy.

The 'trash your hand' is also better than it seems. Because you can either discard two cards or put one back on the deck, so you CAN use it as a 'trash 3' or 'trash 2'. Or you can use it as a 'trash 4 and gain a copper'. You don't actually have that much of a risk of colliding with good cards you don't want to trash. 

[eHalcyon]

The untrashable Village is called Fortress (I saw this on Goko).  The card labelled Fortress is called Procession, I think (I didn't see it on Goko, but I gleaned this from someone's comment here on f.ds).

[AJD]

It is going to be pretty versatile in the end-game, though, almost a gold for 5. If you need all the cards in your hand for this to get you a province? Gain a copper. If you have dead cards in hand? Discard two. If you have more money than you need? Save up for next turn.

It's not quite strictly better than Mandarin, but it's close....

[ftl]

Ah, and all the weird comments were about Procession/Duration interactions, because you have to remember that it was used to play a duration.

[Beyond Awesome]

The untrashable Village is called Fortress (I saw this on Goko).  The card labelled Fortress is called Procession, I think (I didn't see it on Goko, but I gleaned this from someone's comment here on f.ds).

I'm still not sure what to think of Fortress. Seems like on many boards, it will end up being a $4 Necropolis.

[ftl]

It's not quite strictly better than Mandarin, but it's close....

It's on-play effect is strictly better than Mandarin, but it doesn't have an on-gain effect. And, the on-gain effect is really what makes Mandarin unique...

[Jfrisch]

the last card has to be the best duke enabler ever, (gain a duchy and a copper or put back a spare copy, or gain 3 coins and a copper or put back a spare copper) horsetraders can't compete.

[ftl]

The untrashable Village is called Fortress (I saw this on Goko).  The card labelled Fortress is called Procession, I think (I didn't see it on Goko, but I gleaned this from someone's comment here on f.ds).

I'm still not sure what to think of Fortress. Seems like on many boards, it will end up being a $4 Necropolis.

Well, on many boards it's just a $4 village. But that's okay too.

Makes for a pretty nice Golden Deck! Throne Room/Throne Room/Bishop/Bishop/Fortress. 12 points per turn.

[LastFootnote]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

[mnavratil]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

[LastFootnote]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

No, not Altar. Procession. Altar can gain any card costing up to $5.

[HiveMindEmulator]

It's not quite strictly better than Mandarin, but it's close....

It's on-play effect is strictly better than Mandarin, but it doesn't have an on-gain effect. And, the on-gain effect is really what makes Mandarin unique...

Once it's in your deck, it's at least a Mandarin, which is not terrible but not great, but you have to option to pick a different penalty if you desire, which makes it a lot better. If you're agnostic to Copper gaining, you can just take that. Or if you have 2 bad cards, you can just discard them.

It's other good use seems to be as a non-early-game trasher like Forge. The problem with "trash your hand" that Donald has mentioned in the past is that outside of the early game you often don't want to do it because you at least have something good in your hand. But since you can put a card back or discard 2, then you can save the good stuff and trash all the rest.

Then of course there's the obvious combo with Duke, where you're happy to gain a Copper and a Duchy, then can use $3 with your Coppers to buy Dukes.

[LastFootnote]

Referring to the unnamed card is going to get awkward. Can we just call it the Card Of Unlimited New Tactics?

[mnavratil]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

No, not Altar. Procession. Altar can gain any card costing up to $5.

Sorry, made the cahnge too quickly. I think I nailed it this time.

[LastFootnote]

Just to clarify, Procession can only gain an Action card costing exactly $1 more than the trashed card. So if you use Procession on a $5 Action and there are no $6 Actions in play, you gain nothing.

Changed. Thank you.

No, not Altar. Procession. Altar can gain any card costing up to $5.

Sorry, made the cahnge too quickly. I think I nailed it this time.

Bullseye.

[Qvist]

Are Altar and Rats the first "Trash something. Gain something else" cards that aren't verbs?

(Though I guess unlike Remodel, Expand, Transmute, etc., the identity of the gained card is independent of the trashed card.)

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