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Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« on: August 22, 2012, 02:26:18 pm »
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An early discovered combo with Dark Ages was Scavenger+Stash. With 2 Scavengers and 3 Stashes, you can reliably gain a province every turn regardless of the composition of the deck (providing you aren't hit with a minion or militia style attack).

With this, I propose the following challenge:
What's the fastest you can get required cards and using the combo, reliably buy provinces with
Easy: Perfect shuffle luck
Hard: Rotten shuffle luck (note that this means you'll need an extra scavenger, extra stash or some other way of guaranteeing it works every time)
Extra Hard: Rotten shuffle luck, and you get hit with a single Sea Hag every turn after 2 (you're player 2, and player 1 opened Sage/Sea Hag and has perfect shuffle luck)
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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 05:32:47 pm »
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for extra hard, does the curse pile eventually run out? not that it matters, I'm sure it's doable in under 10 turns. just wondering.
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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 06:03:07 pm »
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for extra hard, does the curse pile eventually run out? not that it matters, I'm sure it's doable in under 10 turns. just wondering.

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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 11:29:01 am »
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Easy mode: got it on turn 6

This may not be perfect, but here goes:

T1 buy scav
T2 buy workshop
T3 buy stash, workshop for scavenger   (hand: scav, 3 copper, workshop, put deck in discard pile)
T4 buy stash   (play scav, put deck)
T5 buy stash   (play scav, put deck)
T6-13: buy province (hand: scav, 3 silvers and 1 copper, put deck)


Thanks for making the puzzle!

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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 12:13:17 pm »
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ancientcampus, your turn 3 doesn't work. You can't play both actions on this turn.

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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 12:14:38 pm »
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Since you can gain the whole supply in 5 turns, I would guess easy mode ought to be doable that fast too....

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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2012, 12:25:30 pm »
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Since you can gain the whole supply in 5 turns, I would guess easy mode ought to be doable that fast too....
I think 5 is quite easy, even without KCs.
T1/2:IW/Chancellor
T3: IW(TR)-Chancellor-3C->Highway
T4: HW-TR(IW)(Scav,Stash)-Chancellor-2C->Stash
T5: HW-TR(IW)(Scav,Stash)-Chancellor-2C->Curse

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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 01:09:44 am »
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Since you can gain the whole supply in 5 turns, I would guess easy mode ought to be doable that fast too....

4 turns with Necropolis
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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 01:49:39 am »
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A note that for the rotten shuffle luck challenge, if you only have 3 stashes as 2 scavengers, you WILL draw the 2nd scavenger in your hand and be unable to top deck it - so you will have to have some way around that (A 4th stash or a 3rd scavenger will work). Meanwhile in perfect shuffle luck, that will never happen, so you're free to ignore that other buy.

I tried rotten luck with no other cards in the kingdom (not the challenge) and if you buy nothing other than Stash/Scavenger and are careful with where you put your stashes, turn 14 seems about right (although I'm not sure I got reshuffle timing correct). I got the first potential province buy on turn 10 (although I buy a stash that turn), but being able to seal the deal takes you to the end of the next reshuffle (in which you'd put the stashes on the bottom of the deck). Also note that while the discard isn't compulsory, the search and top deck is.

You could probably brute force the answer to this by seeing simulators go for the strategy and finding the longest time taken.
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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 11:31:01 am »
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ancientcampus, your turn 3 doesn't work. You can't play both actions on this turn.
Whoops! Of course you're right.

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Re: Speed Challenge: Scavenge that Stash
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 02:53:21 pm »
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Wouldn't Necropolis let you get +2 actions and play both actions in turn 3?

Methinks that a LOT of puzzles have gotten massively quicker with dark ages - having that extra action makes things so much easier.
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