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Davio

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Diplomacy
« on: July 23, 2012, 03:46:47 pm »



Hey guys,

I am currently hosting a play-by-email Diplomacy game for my friends. It's great fun and I didn't think it would be such a success, but anytime we are all together this is what everyone is talking about. Seeing the game map as a desktop background or on a smart phone makes me giggle. Emails have been flying everywhere. "Let's get Bill! Let's get John!" etc..

I am playing England and are seriously trying to hold off France as long as I can, while fearing the inevitable backstab.

I wonder if any of you would be interested in a play-by-forum game hosted by me.

General details, not yet set in stone:
  • 2 seasons (= 1 year) per week
  • It will be a standard game with positions drawn from my imaginary bag (online randomizer)
  • I will be using an offline Judge program called jDip to enter and resolve all the moves
  • Experience with Diplomacy will be useful, but it's not required, just make sure you know the rules

What I need is basically 7 people willing to play. I will close the subscription by Tuesday 24th 19:00 Central European Daylight Savings Time, about a day from now. If we don't reach 7 players by tomorrow, I won't organize it, but if we are at something like 6, I might extend the deadline. If we get more than 7 players, the winners will be drawn from my magical bag.

So if this seems like fun to you, just post that you're willing to play and you're (almost) in!

Also, I might need an assistant to take over from me once our firstborn child arrives (in 3 weeks or so). I have no idea what life is going to be like then, so it would be good if someone could continue the game without me worrying about it. Then again, it might be nice for me to do something else than feed the baby, just have to see how it goes.

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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 03:49:08 pm »

/in

Played only once (Edit: AND WON), and it was 2 of us + 5 commodore bots, on real board. (we had comodore controller and an emulator with the game, when computers make their orders we just do them on board  ;D)
But I played like close to 100 games of aGoT which is based on diplomacy. I should be good.

I guess we can all communicate via PM?
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 03:49:50 pm »

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Also, I might need an assistant to take over from me once our firstborn child arrives (in 3 weeks or so). I have no idea what life is going to be like then, so it would be good if someone could continue the game without me worrying about it.

Congratulations, and relevant to your question.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 03:52:53 pm »

I am in!
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 03:54:25 pm »

And congratulations!

I've played only once before, but I have read a bit of strategy on it.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 04:06:37 pm »

If total newbies to the game are allowed, I'm in. I will definitely read the rulebook, but it might be that I'll bother you with questions.

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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 04:12:27 pm »

reread rules, even understood that weird borders around Denmark thing. \o/
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 04:24:03 pm »

If total newbies to the game are allowed, I'm in. I will definitely read the rulebook, but it might be that I'll bother you with questions.
Well, luckily, the game doesn't allow "cheating" or doing something wrong and even if you don't do anything, the game can still continue. This is because everything happens at the same time, so there's no waiting on your turn.

There's a lot of funkiness with borders and resolving the orders.

I advise you to download jDip, the program I use and fiddle with it. Make sure you understand why some moves succeed and why some others don't.

And you don't need any strategy to win the game, just good Diplomacy! :D

Also, the game allows ending prior to completion due to players agreeing on a draw.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 04:48:30 pm »

Well this sounds super interesting.  I hear diplomacy is a great friendship-breaker, so hopefully I can survive playing with 6 people I just met (well I've lurked for quite some time and know a bit about some of the more frequent posters).

I know the rules vaguely, and will definitely reread; no actual playing experience.  Regardless, I am intersted.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 04:54:39 pm »

I used to play quite a bit of Diplomacy on webdiplomacy.net and vdiplomacy.net. I'm actually trying to get away from Diplomacy now, so I'd rather not play, but if anyone wants some help understanding the game or some ideas of what to do I could act as a bit of an advisor.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2012, 05:14:01 pm »

I adore diplomacy, but I don't have a board of my own at home to keep track. Will there be a way to access the map online, or will we all be responsible for keeping track on our own?
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2012, 05:28:37 pm »

I think with jDip he can:

a) export a map and post in forums
b) get all player's actions, resolve them, and send us gamestate file so that we can all load it in jDip, and you instantly get the new situation.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2012, 05:30:29 pm »

if that's how this is working, than I am in.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 05:42:03 pm »

oh fiiiine

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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 05:45:47 pm »

Out on this one. I don't feel like keeping my board up to date at home, and I'm not at my PC often enough, so wouldn't be able to track a third party program often enough.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2012, 05:52:32 pm »

 :o :o :o
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 05:59:46 pm »

:o :o :o
:'( :'( :'(

Unless it can tracked on an Android... ;D
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2012, 06:01:00 pm »

Well, it is a java program, it can be run anywhere.
Also I expect Davio to provide jpegs.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 06:04:52 pm »

Can one fleet occupy one coast and another one other coast at the same time?
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2012, 06:05:22 pm »

I want to! But I cant, no time im afraid. Maybe the next one if this is a sucess!
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2012, 06:09:49 pm »

Can one fleet occupy one coast and another one other coast at the same time?

No.

And, if you have a fleet in Spain (South Coast) and a fleet in Portugal, the following orders fail:
F Spa(sc) - Por
F Por - Spa(nc)

That is because the two units are attempting to switch territories, even though their paths don't actually collide.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2012, 06:16:41 pm »

So, if I have a fleet in Western Medditerian, and somebody has a fleet on North Coast of Spain, can I do

F wes -> Spa(sc)

And if I can, and I have enough support (lets say, from A Por Support Spa(sc) ), is opponent's fleet dislodged?

(Coasts are things that confuse me the most  ;D)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2012, 06:19:53 pm »

So, if I have a fleet in Western Medditerian, and somebody has a fleet on North Coast of Spain, can I do

F wes -> Spa(sc)

And if I can, and I have enough support (lets say, from A Por Support Spa(sc) ), is opponent's fleet dislodged?

(Coasts are things that confuse me the most  ;D)

Yes. That's exactly how it works. Coasts don't change where fleets are, they just change where fleets are able to move. So, the north coast, the south coast and the territory as a whole are all the same location for both fleets and armies. The only thing that coasts do is change how fleets are allowed to move.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2012, 06:29:18 pm »

Also, Diagram 14 in rules.
Why doesn't this happen:
Bulgaria dislodges Rumania, Sev fails.

(ie why Rumania dislodges Bulgaria "first").
"first" because I know there is no order, all happens at same time.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2012, 06:34:29 pm »

Also, Diagram 14 in rules.
Why doesn't this happen:
Bulgaria dislodges Rumania, Sev fails.

(ie why Rumania dislodges Bulgaria "first").
"first" because I know there is no order, all happens at same time.

Because Rumania is double-supported. Rumania's move has a "strength" of 3 because of support from both Serbia and Greece. Bulgaria's move only has "strength" 2 because of support from Black Sea. Bulgaria and Rumania are trying to switch places, so whichever is most supported pushes through.
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