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[rspeer]

Why not do it like I do it with my rankings:
Everybody sends in a ranked list of all submissions.
Every submission gets points equivalent to its rank (The 9th ranked submission gets 9 points) and then the submission with the least points wins.
This is very similar to the proposed system but way easier to calculate.

No. It's called the Borda Count and it has exactly the opposite effect of what's desired here. The winners of Borda Count elections tend to be uncontroversial and mediocre.

[Thisisnotasmile]

I came up with a Peddler pretty much straight away and have been happy with it ever since. Been through a few different Cursers though and still not 100% happy with my latest one (others have all been completely ruled out due to rules issues and such).

Maybe I'm just strange?

[Grujah]

Here's a helping hand with Peddlers ideas.

Workaround
Action
$6
Gain a card costing exactly 3P.
All even-costing cards cost 1$ less.
Gain a VP chip for every Estate left in the supply.
Reveal your hand, if it consists of exactly 8 Provinces:
+1 Card, +1 Action, +1$.

[Qvist]

Here's a helping hand with Peddlers ideas.

Workaround
Action
$6
Gain a card costing exactly 3P.
All even-costing cards cost 1$ less.
Gain a VP chip for every Estate left in the supply.
Reveal your hand, if it consists of exactly 8 Provinces:
+1 Card, +1 Action, +1$.

haha nice

[Robz888]

I've heard Donald plans to release a Treasure -- Action -- Victory card that costs less than $4.

Therefore, I am simply going to submit Ironworks, which will indeed be a Peddler, one day.

[rrenaud]

What?  Page 3 and no Arrow's Impossibility Theorem?

f.ds, i am disappoint

[Thisisnotasmile]

What?  Page 3 and no Arrow's Impossibility Theorem?

f.ds, i am disappoint

Wait... Isotropic's being replaced?

Oops, wrong rule

[Schneau]

Would Highway count as a Peddler? My guess is "yes".

[rinkworks]

Would Highway count as a Peddler? My guess is "yes".

Wheee, that's a tough one.  Because it can effectively give you more than $1, that would seem to violate the rules.  But since it doesn't have +Buy, it needs outside help to do that.  And if you rule out outside help, you have to rule out basically everything, right?  Because you could theorize having a card that says "While this is in play, if another card says +1 Card, it means +2 Cards."

So, since it does not offer +Buy, I say "Highway" counts.

[WanderingWinder]

Gee, I would have thought it wouldn't, because while it's effectively at least a peddler, it doesn't ACTUALLY give you the coin. Which is important in some cases (everything already free, KC it, etc.).

[popsofctown]

If everything is already free, having an additional 1$ is as useless as lowering everything's cost.

[Robz888]

I agree with WW. Highway is not a Peddler because it doesn't give you +1 card, +1 action, and +$1.

I mean, I would say Highway IS a Peddler, just that when you specified the definition of a Peddler variant, perhaps you should have said, "any card that gives +1 card, +1 action, and a bonus equivalent to +$1." I think Highway fits the broad definition of Peddler, just not your given definition.

[rinkworks]

I agree with WW. Highway is not a Peddler because it doesn't give you +1 card, +1 action, and +$1.

I mean, I would say Highway IS a Peddler, just that when you specified the definition of a Peddler variant, perhaps you should have said, "any card that gives +1 card, +1 action, and a bonus equivalent to +$1." I think Highway fits the broad definition of Peddler, just not your given definition.

I see your point.  I did consider expounding on the rule for Challenge #1 and specifying that you don't have to have the exact text of "+1 Card", etc, on the card, so long as the card results in the same ultimate effect.  But then I figured that would be too many nitty, confusing rules and would go unsaid anyway.  Was I wrong, or is the sticking point that "+$1" and "prices are reduced by $1" are actually different effects, even if they have the same practical consequences?  I can see the argument that this is not the same as "+1 Card" and "Put the top card of your deck into your hand" being different ways of saying the same thing.

Fortunately, there haven't been any submissions that have blurred this line yet.

[Robz888]

Rinkworks, it's your competition, and you can do it whatever way you like. I think it's perfectly fine for Highway to be a Peddler variant, but for ease of rules comprehension in your competition, Highway is NOT considered a Peddler, and all submitted Peddlers must include + $1.

Or you could change the official challenge to include +$1 or "something equivalent to +$1" and use your discretion as to whether a given card qualifies.

I'm keeping the card I submitted, either way 

[gman314]

I think that what's more comparable to the highway case would be a Peddler which drew you up to 5 cards. It would have the same effect as +1 card in certain situations, but it could draw you more cards in other cases.

[Robz888]

I think that what's more comparable to the highway case would be a Peddler which drew you up to 5 cards. It would have the same effect as +1 card in certain situations, but it could draw you more cards in other cases.

I think that card is definitely disqualified, right? The rules of the challenge state that the card may not draw more than +1 card.

[popsofctown]

Highway isn't really a Peddler variant at all.  It's strictly worse than Treasury if you don't have +buy or gain.  It exists purely for the cases where it is +1 card +1 Action +2$ or better. 

[gman314]

I think that what's more comparable to the highway case would be a Peddler which drew you up to 5 cards. It would have the same effect as +1 card in certain situations, but it could draw you more cards in other cases.

I think that card is definitely disqualified, right? The rules of the challenge state that the card may not draw more than +1 card.

And by that logic, I think that Highway or similar cannot be a Peddler Variant. Without +buy or gain, Highway provides only +$1. However, it's most useful in situations where you can effectively get more than +$1 by getting +$1 per buy or by raising the ceiling for gaining cards. Similarly, my Peddler drawing up to 5 would be more useful with handsize decreasing cards, even attacks.

[Dsell]

Just to be clear, we need to include any rules clarifications that are not addressed within the card text itself in the PM, correct?

[rinkworks]

Just to be clear, we need to include any rules clarifications that are not addressed within the card text itself in the PM, correct?

Yeah, that's definitely fine.  If I think the card is clear without them, I might opt not to reveal some or all of those clarifications on the ballot.  But they'd still potentially be useful to have in case questions arise.

[WanderingWinder]

@ the deadline in the OP: I assume you actually mean EDT, not EST.

[rinkworks]

@ the deadline in the OP: I assume you actually mean EDT, not EST.

I actually did mean EST, but no matter -- both deadlines are past now.  Working on posting the ballot....

[WanderingWinder]

@ the deadline in the OP: I assume you actually mean EDT, not EST.

I actually did mean EST, but no matter -- both deadlines are past now.  Working on posting the ballot....

Just as a curiosity, why would you reference a time zone that roughly no one is currently using?

[rinkworks]

@ the deadline in the OP: I assume you actually mean EDT, not EST.

I actually did mean EST, but no matter -- both deadlines are past now.  Working on posting the ballot....

Just as a curiosity, why would you reference a time zone that roughly no one is currently using?

Um, wait.  EDT.  Yeah, I meant that.

[chwhite]

I was planning on submitting my entry yesterday, but since the forum was down I didn't get to do it until this morning around 11 or so, technically a couple hours after the deadline.  I hope you accept it anyway!