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[WanderingWinder]

So, recently I was playing a game with a seemingly pretty reasonable-minded opponent, there is possession and a discard attack, and we have this interchange (name removed for his protection, as well as which discard attack it is, to make it a little harder for you to sneak out and find out)

16:15 OPPONENT: have you a good hand??
16:15 OPPONENT: or you discard good cards?
16:15 OPPONENT: ^
16:15 OPPONENT: tell me please :p
16:16 OPPONENT: i played 3[discard attacks] so you should have discard good cards...
16:16 OPPONENT: i dont like bluff!
16:16 WanderingWinder: why would I tell you?
16:16 OPPONENT: i know
16:19 OPPONENT: gg
16:19 WanderingWinder: gg



So what happens is, he plays a discard attack against me, and he wants to know whether I've kept a hand that is good, in which case he should possess me, or which is crummy, in which case it serves him better not to. Now of course, the uncertainty about this is huge when you're in my position, i.e. the one under this combination of threats.
Do people think this is acceptable? I mean, It's not really a huge huge deal, because well, I just don't tell him. But it's just sort of an annoying, needling, whining, and seems a bit unsportsmanlike to me. But I guess maybe bridge players out there would think this is par for the course?
Thoughts?

[cherdano]

It's not ok, but I am not sure I would have much sympathy for anyone complaining who answered him... Not a big deal anyway.

[Ozle]

I wouldn't mind an opponent asking, but I would mind an opponent insisting or begging or hassling about it.

[rrenaud]

You should tell him that you love cookies, and ask him if he has baked any good cookies recently.

[Davio]

I wouldn't mind an opponent asking, but I would mind an opponent insisting or begging or hassling about it.

Same.

However, if you play in real life, your opponent can always see the top card of your discard pile which makes it easier to know if your hand is good or bad.

If he plays Margrave 3 times, for instance, he will get too see 3 cards out of the 4 you discarded.
If I recall correctly, Iso doesn't show this, but I've not payed enough attention to it to be sure.

[Qvist]

I wouldn't mind an opponent asking, but I would mind an opponent insisting or begging or hassling about it.

In real life, I wouldn't have any problems with it.
That's just as you're in a heads up in Poker and ask "So, do you have a good hand?"
I don't expect an answer, but if I see a reaction, it might tell me something.
On isotropic it doesn't work that way, but if someone ask me that, I would answer something like "Who knows? Maybe" and I don't mind.
But if he kept asking, that would be annoying.

[Ozle]

You should tell him that you love cookies, and ask him if he has baked any good cookies recently.

Even if I dont like cookies?

[Kahryl]

I think it depends on the seriousness of the match. In a tournament that behavior would be outrageous. In casual friendly games I think it's acceptable to "wear your heart on your sleeve" so to speak as long as you don't get crazy about it (and he didn't)

[Marin]

WOW!
Don't know that you take it so harsh!!
Sorry, I perfectly knew that you have not to answer!(and that you had right to not answer!)
I was just thinking, and I didn't know really what to do...
I was just trying to make a joke (I said "try", I see that it was really not a "good" joke!).
Trust me, I asked so many times because I was thinking and was a bit frustrated and not because I was waiting for a answer!
And yes again  I am sorry, next time i will learn to shut up...

[WanderingWinder]

Trust me, I asked so many times because I was thinking and was a bit frustrated and not because I was waiting for a answer!

This was the point - I feel that you have no right to expect an answer.

[theory]

I think it is perfectly possible to construe Marin's statements as joking around.  I have often made similar light-hearted comments ("Darn, I wish I knew what you discarded") while thinking.  The problem with the Internet is that sometimes such humor is difficult to detect.

[popsofctown]

I suspect Marin speaks English as a second language and his humor didn't come across quite the way he wanted.

[WanderingWinder]

I think it is perfectly possible to construe Marin's statements as joking around.  I have often made similar light-hearted comments ("Darn, I wish I knew what you discarded") while thinking.  The problem with the Internet is that sometimes such humor is difficult to detect.

That he was meaning it jokingly I thought was very possible - it's why I didn't post his name in the thread to start with.
Tone is everything, and how things come across are extremely important too. Not to say that intentions aren't also important.