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[jotheonah]

Well it was almost certainly better to wait for a Vengeful Townie claim, this is good news.

No, it really isn't any different to wait or not wait.

If we had waited, and Space had claimed Vengeful Townie, and no one had counterclaimed, you wouldn't have had to claim and could get another result tomorrow night.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Wait, why didn't you target gkrieg?

[EFHW]

I thought Space was more likely to be a center of controversy than gkrieg. An innocent result on gkrieg wouldn't have ic'd him bc there's still a chance of traitor.

[EFHW]

Well it was almost certainly better to wait for a Vengeful Townie claim, this is good news.

No, it really isn't any different to wait or not wait.

If we had waited, and Space had claimed Vengeful Townie, and no one had counterclaimed, you wouldn't have had to claim and could get another result tomorrow night.

Would you claim as vengeful townie with no one else claiming? But, yeah, maybe.

[jotheonah]

So to summarize (assuming, of course, no one counterclaims EFHW)

arishipshape - dead, town, bodyguard
DatSwan - dead, scum, goon
chairs -
jotheonah - most likely town, claimed VT
MiX - , claimed VT
A Drowned Kernel -
gkrieg13 -
mcmcsalot - dead, town, VT
Glooble -
Galzria - most likely town, claimed promoter
Faust - IC, Tracker
Joseph2302 - dead, town, lyncher-doctor
SpaceAnemone - either scum or vengeful
EFHW - IC (pending counterclaim), Psychologist

So the lynchpool, such as it is, is:

chairs
MiX*
ADK
gkrieg
Glooble
Space

+ Galz and joth if you wanna get feisty

The pool of people who could plausibly claim vengeful townie and haven't already checked in: [Space, gkrieg, chairs]

[jotheonah]

Well it was almost certainly better to wait for a Vengeful Townie claim, this is good news.

No, it really isn't any different to wait or not wait.

If we had waited, and Space had claimed Vengeful Townie, and no one had counterclaimed, you wouldn't have had to claim and could get another result tomorrow night.

Would you claim as vengeful townie with no one else claiming? But, yeah, maybe.

Well, yeah. I was literally just arguing that that person should claim.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Who did you check N1?

[EFHW]

Who did you check N1?

joth

[jotheonah]

Who did you check N1?

joth

Ok, now I'm comfortable calling myself an IC.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Who did you check N1?

joth

That does remove the possibility of a particularly far-fetched scenario

[MiX]

To add to joth's post, we know that Space will claim Vengeful because there's literally no reason not to, so we're waiting on gkrieg and chairs.

[faust]

Odds + scumreads should mean we catch scum today...but I guess not 100%.

We'll catch scum if we just lynch Glooble.

[Glooble]

Odds + scumreads should mean we catch scum today...but I guess not 100%.

We'll catch scum if we just lynch Glooble.

You'll be sorely disappointed.

[faust]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

[jotheonah]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

Do I count?

[faust]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

Do I count?

No. We're doing this for the scenario where Galz is scum Promoter. In this the only other scum is a Traitor, so EFHW's result on you is irrelevant.

[MiX]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

Do I count?

No. We're doing this for the scenario where Galz is scum Promoter. In this the only other scum is a Traitor, so EFHW's result on you is irrelevant.

I would assume Galz could be Traitor...

[jotheonah]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

Do I count?

No. We're doing this for the scenario where Galz is scum Promoter. In this the only other scum is a Traitor, so EFHW's result on you is irrelevant.

So this is a scenario, I, as a Traitor who knows the identity of the scum team, decides to challenge DatSwan with zero pressure or reason to do so? Come on.

[jotheonah]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

Do I count?

No. We're doing this for the scenario where Galz is scum Promoter. In this the only other scum is a Traitor, so EFHW's result on you is irrelevant.

So this is a scenario, I, as a Traitor who knows the identity of the scum team, decides to challenge DatSwan with zero pressure or reason to do so? Come on.

I mean, I guess it's not totally insane. Would be ballsy AF though. I'm actually kind of flattered you think I'd do that.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Anyway I think before we lynch anyone the actual ICs should decide who Galzria should target.

Do I count?

No. We're doing this for the scenario where Galz is scum Promoter. In this the only other scum is a Traitor, so EFHW's result on you is irrelevant.

I would assume Galz could be Traitor...

If Galz was traitor, joth would be cleared by EFHW's N1 result

[Glooble]

The lynch should probably get a say as well, since if they flip town they'll be an IC.

[chairs]

I’m a VT

[jotheonah]

Hmmm. So this is a scenario where Galz, as traitor, claims town promoter to signal his identity to his team (since they know there's no town promoter). That's actually... I hadn't thought of that. It's kind of brilliant. I mean, what better way to let them know? Of course, if I had chosen the promoter instead of the Goon, he'd be in a lot of trouble today.

[MiX]

Hmmm. So this is a scenario where Galz, as traitor, claims town promoter to signal his identity to his team (since they know there's no town promoter). That's actually... I hadn't thought of that. It's kind of brilliant. I mean, what better way to let them know? Of course, if I had chosen the promoter instead of the Goon, he'd be in a lot of trouble today.

What the hell that's all we talked about D1 how could you not know this we discussed this to god knows where all of D1 we even had to stop because claiming was bad because it let traitor to claim that was mcmc's case on me which started the whole wagon on me and...

And...no way! Is this really the first time you acknowledge this?

[jotheonah]

Day 1 setup talk has a tendency to go over my head. Once I have firsthand experience with the setup it's a little more tangible. I actually have no memory of discussing this.

where is gkrieg?