Topic: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Game Over! Town won!) (Read 195662 times)

jotheonah · « **Reply #1100 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:54:02 pm »

Especially because, if the vig shot misses, that's pretty bad for us.

MiX · « **Reply #1101 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:57:02 pm »

PRs can just claim when we decide to lynch them, no reason to claim before. This means we don't have to out Psychologist nor Vengeful Town. But it's the same either way given scum will never kill the vig...

So yes, I agree that Vengeful Townie should just claim.

Glooble's case is...good!

Vote: chairs

jotheonah · « **Reply #1102 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:59:21 pm »

Gaining ICs proactively has value since it gives us more data to reread and find scum.

jotheonah · « **Reply #1103 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:07:42 pm »

MiX's continued attempts to will his way into IC status really bother me. Like, that is not a crazy thing for scum to be trying to do at this juncture. If we've all made it clear that PoE is the way we're gonna play this, scum wants to get eliminated from that list as definitively as possible.

What if MiX is scum and his whole lynchee thing is just a gambit to get him and his partner both on the quote-unquote IC list and the reason he's stalling with that info is because he wants to make sure he's really clear before he risks tying him and his partner together.

A Drowned Kernel · « **Reply #1104 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:10:54 pm »

Quote from: jotheonah on May 09, 2019, 02:07:42 pm

MiX's continued attempts to will his way into IC status really bother me. Like, that is not a crazy thing for scum to be trying to do at this juncture. If we've all made it clear that PoE is the way we're gonna play this, scum wants to get eliminated from that list as definitively as possible.

What if MiX is scum and his whole lynchee thing is just a gambit to get him and his partner both on the quote-unquote IC list and the reason he's stalling with that info is because he wants to make sure he's really clear before he risks tying him and his partner together.

It's plausible. More likely something that I would be willing to consider at LyLo, though.

vote: chairs

faust · « **Reply #1105 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:29:08 pm »

Quote from: MiX on May 09, 2019, 01:57:02 pm

Glooble's case is...good!

Vote: chairs

No it's terrible.

MiX · « **Reply #1106 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:29:53 pm »

Quote from: faust on May 09, 2019, 02:29:08 pm

Quote from: MiX on May 09, 2019, 01:57:02 pm
Glooble's case is...good!

Vote: chairs
No it's terrible.

Awww...

Vote: EFHW

faust · « **Reply #1107 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:30:29 pm »

I feel like the Psychologist has largely outlived their usefulness and should probably claim. I mean unless all their targets are dead or something.

Galzria · « **Reply #1108 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:30:43 pm »

Quote from: jotheonah on May 09, 2019, 01:53:34 pm

what about just the vengeful townie claiming? That claim is basically guaranteed an IC since, as I said before, if we have a counterclaim we just make whichever one we don't lynch promise to hammer the other one. Is that more or less useful than letting them stay hidden and getting a possible vig shot if and only if we mislynch them (and no value if they're nightkilled)? It seems more useful to me.

I could maybe see value in this - but not as an “out-of-the-gate” claim. Keeps scum more on their toes today if they don’t know when or from whom the claim will come.

faust · « **Reply #1109 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:33:01 pm »

Anyways Vote: Glooble I am ready for this.

I have another negative result. So I know one more player who's not Psychologist. I kind of don't want to claim who right now.

jotheonah · « **Reply #1110 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:43:28 pm »

Glooble might be MiX's most likely partner in my MiX-is-scum scenario, but I'm still largely townreading him. His case on chairs is fine but uninspired.

EFHW · « **Reply #1111 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:50:43 pm »

Quote from: faust on May 09, 2019, 02:30:29 pm

I feel like the Psychologist has largely outlived their usefulness and should probably claim. I mean unless all their targets are dead or something.

That's so sad! Maybe I can enjoy retirement.

I do have a positive result. Thinking about the best way to sort out mafia from Vengeful Townie.

MiX · « **Reply #1112 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:53:15 pm »

Well Unvote

Whoever is Vengeful Townie should claim, obviously. Saying that you have a positive result is not ideal but hopefully it doesn't matter.

EFHW · « **Reply #1113 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:57:30 pm »

What do you mean? Isn't this my very reason for existing?

I'll just say who it is and if they are scum maybe there is some tiny chance the vengeful townie won't get outed.

Space can kill.

Glooble · « **Reply #1114 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:00:42 pm »

Quote from: EFHW on May 09, 2019, 02:57:30 pm

What do you mean? Isn't this my very reason for existing?

I'll just say who it is and if they are scum maybe there is some tiny chance the vengeful townie won't get outed.

Space can kill.

Don't see how this ends without the Vengeful townie getting outed, but I also don't see how we don't catch scum today. Space will claim Vengeful because literally nothing else exonerates them. Then if Space is scum the real Vengeful townie will counterclaim. We lynch whichever one we think is scummier, and force the other one to hammer. Either way scum dies.

Or no one counterclaims and Space is yet another IC.

MiX · « **Reply #1115 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:01:55 pm »

Just that...well it doesn't matter. Vengeful Townie should claim and all that. I guess you already got your result so saying what it is affects nothing.

PPE 1: I guess Glooble's not Vengeful Townie. Who is?

EFHW · « **Reply #1116 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:03:10 pm »

That's what I've been thinking. They'll be IC but won't get to use their power.

EFHW · « **Reply #1117 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:03:37 pm »

That response was to Glooble.

Glooble · « **Reply #1118 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:07:59 pm »

Quote from: EFHW on May 09, 2019, 03:03:10 pm

That's what I've been thinking. They'll be IC but won't get to use their power.

I guess that's how we don't catch scum today. Oops.

MiX · « **Reply #1119 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:09:23 pm »

Odds + scumreads should mean we catch scum today...but I guess not 100%.

jotheonah · « **Reply #1120 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:10:14 pm »

Well it was almost certainly better to wait for a Vengeful Townie claim, this is good news.

EFHW · « **Reply #1121 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:12:49 pm »

Quote from: jotheonah on May 09, 2019, 03:10:14 pm

Well it was almost certainly better to wait for a Vengeful Townie claim, this is good news.

No, it really isn't any different to wait or not wait.

MiX · « **Reply #1122 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:13:55 pm »

Vote: Space, odds are on our side.

EFHW · « **Reply #1123 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:16:01 pm »

No, don't do that! Let's hear the claims. The odds aren't that good.

MiX · « **Reply #1124 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:17:46 pm »

They're technically better than 50/50...? But fiiiiine

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