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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2475 on: October 25, 2017, 05:11:26 pm »

Is it also the largest consecutive scum lynch?

Yes. This is only the 9th normal game with 5+ scum though. M6 had 4 in a row, and M12 (aka Robz's mega game, first of his name) had two runs of 3.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2476 on: October 25, 2017, 05:14:37 pm »

I ended every single day start to finish voting scum. Don't think I've ever done that in a game in which I lived to completion.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2477 on: October 25, 2017, 05:20:38 pm »

I ended every single day start to finish voting scum. Don't think I've ever done that in a game in which I lived to completion.

Damn deadline shenanigans forcing me off LaLight
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2478 on: October 25, 2017, 05:21:12 pm »

I ended every single day start to finish voting scum. Don't think I've ever done that in a game in which I lived to completion.

Damn deadline shenanigans forcing me off LaLight

actually I was AFK during the Iguana lynch aswell, nevermind.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2479 on: October 25, 2017, 05:25:54 pm »

I ended every single day start to finish voting scum. Don't think I've ever done that in a game in which I lived to completion.

Damn deadline shenanigans forcing me off LaLight

There were 8 whole minutes left until deadline when you voted IDPTG! Plenty of time to see that LL lynch through!

... But then, we probably wouldn't have had this cool 5-scum lynch record, and hell, might not have even won. So good job O! Making the right choices when it mattered most all game long. :P
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2480 on: October 25, 2017, 05:26:03 pm »

Iguana, Datswan thinks you were pissed at him in the speccy thread - I'm just not seeing it. He thinks /m177 was about the entire game... and I think you were just jokingly replying to O about who the last scum was (following his accidental spoiler-y entry that you (to my view) played off of). Care to enlighten?

What? This was a great game. Town played great and deserved to win. Good job guys.  I had fun losing.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2481 on: October 25, 2017, 05:28:42 pm »

IDPTG being a VT was very fortunate. WW too.

Funny, there were 4 VT in this game: 2 of them didn't make it to D2 while the other two survived all the way to the end.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2482 on: October 25, 2017, 05:36:32 pm »

Having read the scum QT now...

Wow, did you guys not realize it was MyLo before I brought it up in thread D4? That would explain the feeling of lack of coordination on the day I thought for sure you should win. I just really thought you guys would've known and planned for it.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2483 on: October 25, 2017, 05:47:26 pm »

Ha! Interesting note:

All 3 Barracks slots from Game 1 were independently chosen town picks this game!

2nd Day IC
2 Shot Redirctor
Protector of the Island
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2484 on: October 25, 2017, 05:50:03 pm »

On that subject, I'm curious what Jimmm's reasoning is for Day 2 IC at #2. I mean I'm glad he didn't go for Masons but that seems strictly better to me already, and then there are investigative roles and JK too.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2485 on: October 25, 2017, 05:51:28 pm »

So, unfortunately the Candidate thing didn't come in to play very much, because LL died so early. I do think this is a really interesting mechanic, having the SK win con being to kill some number of specific players. I hope to re-use it in a future game.

I think the slots/PRs could be used again as is, with a few changes--nerfing the Poisoner, maybe putting the cop role in bright gold size 18 font.

I might run a similar setup, plus a few tweaks, after New Years rolls around (which is when the book I'm writing is due). I am also holding off on playing in another game until then.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2486 on: October 25, 2017, 05:52:27 pm »

On that subject, I'm curious what Jimmm's reasoning is for Day 2 IC at #2. I mean I'm glad he didn't go for Masons but that seems strictly better to me already, and then there are investigative roles and JK too.

I also questioned this, but IC is a good role for Jimmm, who tends to live a long time and is like never the Night 1 kill.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2487 on: October 25, 2017, 05:55:08 pm »

Oh, and I have no good answer for how the QT quoting thing should work in the future. Also note that O and Teproc had devised a strategy to 100% confirm themselves as Masons, that was technically within the rules.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2488 on: October 25, 2017, 05:58:52 pm »

Re: Gunsmith: Robz, it's not that people don't realize it's good. It's just that it's a risk... really the only people who could have reasonably gone for it were Jimmm, Galz and me, anyone below just can't expect it to be there precisely because it's strong. Now the really low people can try for whatever because of this (as Eevee did), but it's not that surprising that some of the strongest town roles don't get picked, especially because scum dominates the first half of the draft order.

I do like the Candidates thing yeah. As you speculated in the Mod QT, there starts to be some interesting tension if the SK lives long enogh. In this case, candidates had an impressive lifespan.

Re the masons confirming thing, it only works if Masons are the only possible daychat, but sure it's a bit of a concern. Didn't end up doing it because it wasn't really needed and it was actually kind of hard to coordinate with the timezone differences between O and I.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2489 on: October 25, 2017, 06:02:36 pm »

Woo, I did not mess up. I am still so confused why faust survived so long. His hesitation to claim was just so obvious.
So I am very happy, not only because I got my wincon but also helped town to win.
Congrats to Teproc and O.

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2490 on: October 25, 2017, 06:31:26 pm »

Hahaha - Robz and Mcmc mimicking Teproc and me in the mod QT is hilarious.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2491 on: October 25, 2017, 06:51:34 pm »

The Mod QT was great D4-D6.

Also, loved the idea of Iguana claiming to poison LL. Fantastic.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2492 on: October 25, 2017, 07:42:15 pm »

/m96 of the Masons thread N3 from Teproc is great:

"Main suspects for me are faust, gkrieg, chairs, by PoE mostly. Given my track record so far in this game I half expect two of those three to turn up dead tomorrow"

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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2493 on: October 25, 2017, 07:55:56 pm »

e.... didn't block.

What the ?

Blocking Swan would have almost won the game right there.

Yeah, my bad....

But thanks for winning the game for us anyway!
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2494 on: October 25, 2017, 08:03:22 pm »

Gg all. This was fun times.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2495 on: October 25, 2017, 09:17:49 pm »

Having read the scum QT now...

Wow, did you guys not realize it was MyLo before I brought it up in thread D4? That would explain the feeling of lack of coordination on the day I thought for sure you should win. I just really thought you guys would've known and planned for it.

We did not realize a lot of things.  :P
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2496 on: October 25, 2017, 09:24:28 pm »

Iguana, Datswan thinks you were pissed at him in the speccy thread - I'm just not seeing it. He thinks /m177 was about the entire game... and I think you were just jokingly replying to O about who the last scum was (following his accidental spoiler-y entry that you (to my view) played off of). Care to enlighten?

What? This was a great game. Town played great and deserved to win. Good job guys.  I had fun losing.

I looked at this. I meant what Galz thought I meant. Datswan played well for a first scum and I enjoyed being on his team.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2497 on: October 26, 2017, 03:08:01 am »

I think our biggest problem was not paying enough attention and missing the LyLo potential. Our claims could have gone very differently otherwise.

Also, as said in the scum QT, the ruling on Qvist being a targeting role was scandalous.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2498 on: October 26, 2017, 03:09:01 am »

Woo, I did not mess up. I am still so confused why faust survived so long. His hesitation to claim was just so obvious.
The only reason to do it was for towncred though.
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Re: Mafia 108: LOST Mafia by Robz and Mcmc -- GAME OVER
« Reply #2499 on: October 26, 2017, 05:59:09 am »

Having read the scum QT now...

Wow, did you guys not realize it was MyLo before I brought it up in thread D4? That would explain the feeling of lack of coordination on the day I thought for sure you should win. I just really thought you guys would've known and planned for it.

Heh.. It was kind of a subtle thing from my perspective, because there were too many caveats and too many towns alive to lynch us -- it only looked good externally because we had the higher kill rate. You're right that failing to discuss a strategy for it in the QT was still an error, though.

This was kind of my first real scum game, given that the only other M-game in which I drew scum was stopped early. I have room for improvement! :-P

@Robz, thank you for the fun setup!
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