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[kn1tt3r]

From http://www.riograndegames.com/news.html?id=14:

As promised, we have recently released . These include Friday, Power Grid: First Sparks, Power Grid: the Robots, and Puerto Rico Anniversary Edition, (which we have sold out of - as it was a limited edition, we will not reprint it). Other games we planned to release have been delayed by the German publishers and printers and we expect to release them in a few weeks. These include Upon a Salty Ocean, South Pole, and Stone Age: Style is the Goal. We will also soon be releasing Lamborghini, Leader: Hell of the North, Hawaii, and Last Will. For Dominion, we  still plan to release a digital version early this year. We are also planning to release a set of all base cards (treasure, victory, and curse) that players can use to replace used cards from the base game or Dominion: Intrigue, or to use with the expansions that do not include these base cards. The planned release for this product is March, 2012. We have changed the schedule a bit and will release the large expansion Dominion: Dark Ages at Gencon to accompany the Dominion World Masters Tournament that will be held there. The expansion previously announced for the spring: Dominion: the Guilds will be released in the spring of 2013. We are continuing to work on Arctic Scavengers, Cavemen, Carcassonne: the Castle Falcon expansion, Those Pesky Garden Gnomes, Rattlebones, Credit Mobilier, Mogul, Monster Factory, and several others. These will appear beginning in the spring of 2012.

The Dominion World Masters Tournament will be held this year at Gencon. We have invited our partners from around the world to hold tournaments in their countries and send the winner. For the US, we are asking local conventions to sponsor “regional” tournaments so the winners can participate in the US finals prior to Gencon. We plan to hold those in June. We are also asking those who have held Dominion tournaments at conventions since October to contact us as we may offer those winners entry into the finals.

[brokoli]

Sad for isotropic... but glad for the next expansions.

[theory]

I'm confused.  Does this mean Guilds is coming a year from now, and Dark Ages is coming this fall, thereby skipping this spring's expansion?

[kn1tt3r]

Probably it's something like:

- Dark Ages: August 2012 (GenCon)
- The Guilds: March 2013

[werothegreat]

Had anyone heard the names for these expansions before this announcement was made?

[play2draw]

Dominion: Dark Ages sounds like it could be every "alternate curse card" maker's dream-come-true.

And "Guilds" has a game-changing vibe to it, like a new mechanic of some sort. Some kind of persistent-state cards?

Of course, I base the above speculation on absolutely nothing

[Donald X.]

Had anyone heard the names for these expansions before this announcement was made?

I know Dark Ages hadn't been announced and thought Guilds hadn't been.

I can tell you two more things.

The base cards in that product have art, full-card art. Copper with art, etc. So, while you can buy it to replace worn cards, or in order to play the game without having the main set or Intrigue, or to play with 5-6 without having both the main set and Intrigue, you can also get it if you are one of those people who thought the base cards should have art.

Dark Ages is 500 cards but is not a standalone. So while you are only getting one expansion this year, it's a big one.

[Eistee]

Will "The Guilds" be a small expansion then?

[mangaguy]

Ooooh, main kingdom cards, I like. I'm assuming there will be VP cards with art, not just treasure? Looking forward to it.

[Tables]

Dark Ages is 500 cards but is not a standalone. So while you are only getting one expansion this year, it's a big one.

Woah. 500 cards is, like, 44 kingdom cards. Assuming there's >2 victory cards and there's nothing else special in there (well, with 3 victory cards there'd be 10 cards left over, easily room for some special thing). Of course those assumptions are probably wrong. I guess that a good number of the cards are going to be something new, or strange, so we'll probably have more like 40 kingdom cards.

Still, the new base cards sound interesting. I might have to consider picking some up.

[Forge!!!]

Ignoring the whole "new expansion not coming out in the Spring" thing, this has got me pretty excited. Base cards with new art sounds really cool, as well as a new expansion with 500 cards. A couple quick, random questions:

1. Are there going to be any more new promo cards?

2. (assuming you know this) Will I be able to play the new digital version from a regular computer? Cause otherwise I have no idea what I'm going to do at work.

[mrdirt73]

Dark Ages is 500 cards but is not a standalone. So while you are only getting one expansion this year, it's a big one.

Woah. 500 cards is, like, 44 kingdom cards. Assuming there's >2 victory cards and there's nothing else special in there (well, with 3 victory cards there'd be 10 cards left over, easily room for some special thing). Of course those assumptions are probably wrong. I guess that a good number of the cards are going to be something new, or strange, so we'll probably have more like 40 kingdom cards.

Still, the new base cards sound interesting. I might have to consider picking some up.

Sounds like this one is going to contain a regular "large" expansion and a "small" expansion too.  Which I guess makes sense because Guilds has to be half of something right?

[chogg]

Sad for isotropic... but glad for the next expansions.

Will there be "fair warning" given for when Isotropic will go down?  How much?

I'm also very interested in details about the digital version of Dominion.  (For instance: are there any advantages for fanatics who already bought all the expansions?)

[Donald X.]

1. Are there going to be any more new promo cards?

2. (assuming you know this) Will I be able to play the new digital version from a regular computer? Cause otherwise I have no idea what I'm going to do at work.

I don't know if or when there will be new promo cards, and wouldn't expect one in the near future, since we just had two, but, in the long run, it seems safe to guess that there will be another one.

I don't know what the initial release of digital Dominion will look like, but the intention was to support every platform known to man, and I will be shocked if it doesn't support regular computers.

[Donald X.]

Will there be "fair warning" given for when Isotropic will go down?  How much?

I'm also very interested in details about the digital version of Dominion.  (For instance: are there any advantages for fanatics who already bought all the expansions?)

Everyone is going to have to wait on details until the company chooses to make them available. I do not even know if I can name the company.

I don't know what kind of "fair warning" you'd expect or why you'd think someone would need it, outside of the tournament, which will get to finish. I expect councilroom will get a chance to archive the last of the logs, and what else exactly would you need to finish up? Whatever it is, get it finished. I do not know how much warning there will be, but it might not be much.

[Forge!!!]

1. Are there going to be any more new promo cards?

2. (assuming you know this) Will I be able to play the new digital version from a regular computer? Cause otherwise I have no idea what I'm going to do at work.

I don't know if or when there will be new promo cards, and wouldn't expect one in the near future, since we just had two, but, in the long run, it seems safe to guess that there will be another one.

I don't know what the initial release of digital Dominion will look like, but the intention was to support every platform known to man, and I will be shocked if it doesn't support regular computers.

Thanks =) It's really quite awesome that you're here to answer questions like these and I very much appreciate it.

[chogg]

Everyone is going to have to wait on details until the company chooses to make them available. I do not even know if I can name the company.

Thanks for explaining.  I had wondered why so few details seemed to be known!

I don't know what kind of "fair warning" you'd expect or why you'd think someone would need it, outside of the tournament, which will get to finish. I expect councilroom will get a chance to archive the last of the logs, and what else exactly would you need to finish up? Whatever it is, get it finished. I do not know how much warning there will be, but it might not be much.

Oh, I didn't have in mind anything in particular to get finished up.  It's just hard to get a game night together when we have young kids, not to mention all our gamer friends who live in other cities.  Being able to play our favorite game with anyone anywhere has been just wonderful.  I'd be sad for it to go away without getting some last games in with everyone.

Naturally, we're going to buy the digital version soon after release.  But probably not all of our friends will.

[DrHades]

Great names for expansions, very exicited to see them! Official online Dominion, well, we all are afraid, but lets just hope it will end up great

But what about the World Masters? Will it again be "just for fun" tournament of the Nation masters? So there still won't be any big and serious World Championship? Why not have some qualifications through national competitions (winner from each country, probably more from US) and some online qualifications?

[^_^_^_^]

This means I must achieve a level above 25 on isotropic fast! Mass gaming gogogogogo. Can't wait for expansions/new Isotropic but I gotta see how high I can get

[werothegreat]

Dark Ages is 500 cards but is not a standalone. So while you are only getting one expansion this year, it's a big one.

I've got several wet spots right now.  So excited!

[studakris]

So I'm guessing these will be the final two Dominion expansions?

[Beyond Awesome]

I like the name Dark Ages. It would have been a fitting name for the final expansion since Dominion would go literally go into Dark Ages with no new expansions coming out in the foreseeable future. And, 500 cards! Wow that is huge. It sounds like you wanted to make the last expansion something special. It kind of sucks RGG is changing the release schedule, but I am super excited for this years expansion. Also, VP cards and money with pictures sounds nice. Will Colonies and Platinums be included with this?

[DrHades]

This means I must achieve a level above 25 on isotropic fast! Mass gaming gogogogogo. Can't wait for expansions/new Isotropic but I gotta see how high I can get

This got me thinking - how would the new online Dominion look the first days? Well, most of the people will be from here (so good players) and probably those who play every day and are adicted (even better players). But all of them will have level 0, starting elo or whatever the rating system will be. So before the other players will join us, I think staying at the starting rating would be a big challange 

[mrdirt73]

I like the name Dark Ages. It would have been a fitting name for the final expansion since Dominion would go literally go into Dark Ages with no new expansions coming out in the foreseeable future. And, 500 cards! Wow that is huge. It sounds like you wanted to make the last expansion something special. It kind of sucks RGG is changing the release schedule, but I am super excited for this years expansion. Also, VP cards and money with pictures sounds nice. Will Colonies and Platinums be included with this?

According to Donald's post on BGG it will contain Colonies, Platinums, and Potions.

[Jimmy Jimmy]

I like the name Dark Ages. It would have been a fitting name for the final expansion since Dominion would go literally go into Dark Ages with no new expansions coming out in the foreseeable future. And, 500 cards! Wow that is huge. It sounds like you wanted to make the last expansion something special. It kind of sucks RGG is changing the release schedule, but I am super excited for this years expansion. Also, VP cards and money with pictures sounds nice. Will Colonies and Platinums be included with this?

According to Donald's post on BGG it will contain Colonies, Platinums, and Potions.

Link please?

[kn1tt3r]

I like the name Dark Ages. It would have been a fitting name for the final expansion since Dominion would go literally go into Dark Ages with no new expansions coming out in the foreseeable future. And, 500 cards! Wow that is huge. It sounds like you wanted to make the last expansion something special. It kind of sucks RGG is changing the release schedule, but I am super excited for this years expansion. Also, VP cards and money with pictures sounds nice. Will Colonies and Platinums be included with this?

According to Donald's post on BGG it will contain Colonies, Platinums, and Potions.

Link please?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/8251138#8251138

[Qvist]

I'm really looking forward now for the digital release and the Dark Ages Expansion. I shouldn't have read that. Now I just can't wait to get ~45 new Kingdom cards.
I'm really curious if the digital release will be updatable so it will include all 2 forthcoming expansions. I hope so.

I agree that Dark Ages somehow suggests expanding the curse theme. But if not, at least there will be really annoying attacks, as the theme hints at.

[werothegreat]

I'm really looking forward now for the digital release and the Dark Ages Expansion. I shouldn't have read that. Now I just can't wait to get ~45 new Kingdom cards.
I'm really curious if the digital release will be updatable so it will include all 2 forthcoming expansions. I hope so.

I agree that Dark Ages somehow suggests expanding the curse theme. But if not, at least there will be really annoying attacks, as the theme hints at.

Yeah, Attacks definitely seems like a theme.  I don't think there'll be any tokens or mats, because there wouldn't be room for all the extra cards if there were.  It'll probably be a cards-only expansion like Hinterlands.

[MrFrog]

'Dark Ages'... wouldn't that mean 25 kingdom cards and 200 blanks? 

[Thisisnotasmile]

'Dark Ages'... wouldn't that mean 25 kingdom cards and 200 blanks? 

rinkworks cannot be more excited.

[rinkworks]

So here's a thought about Dark Ages.  If there really were ~44 new kingdom cards, would they fit in the plastic storage tray?  A lot of space is wasted in the divisions between slots.  500 cards fit in Base and Intrigue, sure, but only because the Coppers, Silvers, Golds, Estates, and Curses are such fat packs that can slip into a single slot.

This (plus Donald's off-handed remark that the then-last expansion "has its own thing going on") makes me lean towards the thinking that Dark Ages will have some exotic sort of mechanic going on that will require it to have one or two packs of cards of more than 10 or 12.  Not that this would be it, but the long-abandoned idea of Confusion cards would be an example of this:  a new mechanic that requires a large stockpile of some other kind of card.

I see that as being much more likely than 44 new kingdom cards.   But we'll see.

'Dark Ages'... wouldn't that mean 25 kingdom cards and 200 blanks? 

rinkworks cannot be more excited.

Rock on!

[ugasoft]

So here's a thought about Dark Ages.  If there really were ~44 new kingdom cards, would they fit in the plastic storage tray?  A lot of space is wasted in the divisions between slots.  500 cards fit in Base and Intrigue, sure, but only because the Coppers, Silvers, Golds, Estates, and Curses are such fat packs that can slip into a single slot.

I use standard dominion boxes (I've all expansions) just to proudly show how nerd I am. I keep them on my bookcase in an artistic way, showing my friends that I'm a dominiion fan... but cards, mats, tokens, stuffs are not in their original boxes anymore! I've special handmade boxes... I'd like to see published some "ad hoc" Dominion Card Boxes that can contain all ~2000 cards (+1000 in production with these two expansions I'm dying to wait for...).

[tlloyd]

The base cards in that product have art, full-card art. Copper with art, etc. So, while you can buy it to replace worn cards, or in order to play the game without having the main set or Intrigue, or to play with 5-6 without having both the main set and Intrigue, you can also get it if you are one of those people who thought the base cards should have art.

Donald, how many of the Provinces, Estates and Curses will there be? Enough for 5 or 6 players? Now that I'm thinking of it, are you supposed to have more than 12 Colonies if you play Prosperity with 5 or 6 players?

[Donald X.]

Donald, how many of the Provinces, Estates and Curses will there be? Enough for 5 or 6 players? Now that I'm thinking of it, are you supposed to have more than 12 Colonies if you play Prosperity with 5 or 6 players?

The base cards product only supports 2-4 players. Obv. you can add it to Dominion or Intrigue to support 5-6. Supporting 4 players took 249 cards, and these numbers have to be round; we did not think most people would be thrilled paying for more cards they didn't need.

The Prosperity rulebook indicates that you have 12 Colonies for 3 or more players. That includes 5-6 players.

[tlloyd]

Donald, how many of the Provinces, Estates and Curses will there be? Enough for 5 or 6 players? Now that I'm thinking of it, are you supposed to have more than 12 Colonies if you play Prosperity with 5 or 6 players?

The base cards product only supports 2-4 players. Obv. you can add it to Dominion or Intrigue to support 5-6. Supporting 4 players took 249 cards, and these numbers have to be round; we did not think most people would be thrilled paying for more cards they didn't need.

The Prosperity rulebook indicates that you have 12 Colonies for 3 or more players. That includes 5-6 players.

Thanks for the info. Mostly I'm trying to design a storage case and wanted to know how many cards there will be in the end. So other than the indeterminate number of future promo cards and the remote possibility of future expansions beyond Guilds, it looks like something approaching 3200 cards. Anyone care to confirm that?

[^_^_^_^]

So here's a thought about Dark Ages.  If there really were ~44 new kingdom cards, would they fit in the plastic storage tray?  A lot of space is wasted in the divisions between slots.  500 cards fit in Base and Intrigue, sure, but only because the Coppers, Silvers, Golds, Estates, and Curses are such fat packs that can slip into a single slot.

I use standard dominion boxes (I've all expansions) just to proudly show how nerd I am. I keep them on my bookcase in an artistic way, showing my friends that I'm a dominiion fan... but cards, mats, tokens, stuffs are not in their original boxes anymore! I've special handmade boxes... I'd like to see published some "ad hoc" Dominion Card Boxes that can contain all ~2000 cards (+1000 in production with these two expansions I'm dying to wait for...).

This seems like a great idea. Donald get some people working on this ASAP! 

[Kuildeous]

it looks like something approaching 3200 cards. Anyone care to confirm that?

I've been meaning to sit down and calculate this. I'm glad someone else is going through that work, because my free time has just been sucked away by theatre. Stupid conflicting hobbies.

[werothegreat]

Ugh, considering I caught on to Dominion just after Cornucopia came out, this feels somewhat similar to picking up A Song of Ice and Fire a couple years after Feast for Crows came out, though I'm certainly glad that Donald X is not George R R Martin and is actually able to put out a product more often than every five years.  What I'm getting at is that I was able to walk into so many expansions (or books) and devour them in quick succession, but now I have to wait.  I'm not sure if this is better or worse than starting off with the first item and waiting for each new entry...  I want Dark Ages/Winds of Winter nooowwwww....

[ugasoft]

Donald, how many of the Provinces, Estates and Curses will there be? Enough for 5 or 6 players? Now that I'm thinking of it, are you supposed to have more than 12 Colonies if you play Prosperity with 5 or 6 players?

The base cards product only supports 2-4 players. Obv. you can add it to Dominion or Intrigue to support 5-6. Supporting 4 players took 249 cards, and these numbers have to be round; we did not think most people would be thrilled paying for more cards they didn't need.

The Prosperity rulebook indicates that you have 12 Colonies for 3 or more players. That includes 5-6 players.

Thank you Donald for your explanations.

My "problem" here is that I usually run "mid-size" tournaments in my house. I had all expansions on the market so far and I hat to play in more than 3 players (ok, I hate 3-players matches too).

My current setup, listed [num_players ___ comma separated players in each table, starting from "main table"]
3 (3)
4 (2,2)
5 (2,3)
6 (3,3 or 2,2,2 it depends how many noobs are in the tournament)
7 (2,2,3)
8 (2,3,3)
9 (3,3,3)
10+ sorry guys, it's impossible, too few cards

Problems:
- I can share low treasures (coppers, silvers and golds) among tables, relaxing the rule of empty piles over these piles (ok, with hinterlands traders and tunnel I may have some problems, not yet played in tournaments)
- I try to share Potions, I usually look at the kingdom cards and I give some potions here and there, if some table is running out of potions, I'll move froma table to another, or, in worst case, I use white cards
- I go somewhat crazy with low green cards... I had to produce for 3 tables 12 duchys, 12 provinces, something like 24 estates... I've printed them on papers and put the printed&cut cards in the sleeves of some unused kingdom card (imagine the setup of a tournament turn! I becoem skilled at it)
- I go utterly crazy with Colonies and Platinums... And we all love Colony Game

Conclusions:
- I can afford (and I will) another copy of the Base Dominion, but I don't want another Prosperity.
- I hope the "yet-to-come" Basic-Card-With-Art Expansion will contain more than 12 colony-platinum

Thank you for your time!

[Qvist]

Nothing special, but here's just a quick update for the Base Cards on the official Rio Grande Games Page.
You can see the cover and the price:
http://www.riograndegames.com/games.html?id=419

[werothegreat]

Nothing special, but here's just a quick update for the Base Cards on the official Rio Grande Games Page.
You can see the cover and the price:
http://www.riograndegames.com/games.html?id=419

Too bad the picture's so small...

[Beyond Awesome]

The price seems reasonable. I can't wait to see what the cards look like in person.

[werothegreat]

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

[Beyond Awesome]

I can't wait to see what the new Victory and Treasures look like. Shouldn't this be coming out any day.

[Donald X.]

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

As of today Jay expects it "late March."

[WanderingWinder]

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

As of today Jay expects it "late March."

Great, I'll expect it in May

[^_^_^_^]

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

As of today Jay expects it "late March."

Great, I'll expect it in May

I'll expect it in September

[jonts26]

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

As of today Jay expects it "late March."

Great, I'll expect it in May

I'll expect it in September

Well I for one have full faith in Jay and am expecting it in March ... of next year.

[Fuu]

I'm looking forward to learning what on earth a duchy looks like.

[werothegreat]

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

As of today Jay expects it "late March."

Great, I'll expect it in May

I'll expect it in September

But... but... that'll push back Dark Ages and just NO.

[bozzball]

I'm looking forward to learning what on earth a duchy looks like.

I suspect it is greenery with a river in it, based on the view through the portholes in http://www.dominiondeck.com/cards/duke and http://www.dominiondeck.com/cards/duchess

[werothegreat]

I would laugh my ass off if the picture for Province was just an outline of Quebec or something.

[werothegreat]

[Atto]

That's it! With your hint I found more of this leaked Province images.
Seems like there are different pictures on the cards:



I just don't know what this card is trying to tell us:



 

[theory]

I look forward to Dominion: Legacy.  When you trash a card, you trash it.

[Deadlock39]

In Soviet Russia, card trashes you?

[Tables]

I look forward to Dominion: Legacy.  When you trash a card, you trash it.

'Thrash a card from your hand...'?

[werothegreat]

I look forward to Dominion: Legacy.  When you trash a card, you trash it.

When you trash a card, the Mutants win the game.

[Davio]

Dominion: Arkham Horror.

Setup takes longer than actual play.

[Ozle]

I keep coming back to this thread in the hopes that the new posts are about the actual expansions...and getting dissapointed

[LastFootnote]

I keep coming back to this thread in the hopes that the new posts are about the actual expansions...and getting dissapointed

And now you're part of the problem, as am I.

[mrjt]

I heard there are some crossover expansions in the works.

Dominion of Catan -- In order to buy a card you have to place a token on the desired card. Then every turn you roll dice to determine whether or not you gain the card.

Dominionassone -- No matter how dominating your lead is, your opponent can often come back and win by earning tons of victory points for placing more farmers than you on the victory card stacks.

[^_^_^_^]

My mind went like this through this thread:
 

[Davio]

Well, if we look which other games RGG has published we can speculate that the next Promo card may be based on Power Grid or Stone Age or something.

Walled Village was for Carcassone I believe and Governor of course was for Puerto Rico.
Envoy, Black Market and Stash were for annoyance.

[WallyNate]

Well, if we look which other games RGG has published we can speculate that the next Promo card may be based on Power Grid or Stone Age or something.

Walled Village was for Carcassone I believe and Governor of course was for Puerto Rico.
Envoy, Black Market and Stash were for annoyance.

Hm, but it would have to be appropriately themed for the time period.  Maybe something like a windmill?  And hopefully it will have some kind of easily-misunderstood mechanic, so I can yell out "Windmills do not work that way!" any time someone plays it wrong.

[Kirian]

Well, if we look which other games RGG has published we can speculate that the next Promo card may be based on Power Grid or Stone Age or something.

Walled Village was for Carcassone I believe and Governor of course was for Puerto Rico.
Envoy, Black Market and Stash were for annoyance.

I think DXV indicated there were thoughts of doing one for PG but nothing was working out thematically, so we got Walled Village from Carcassone instead.

15th anniversary of Bohnanza coming up...

[Davio]

Well, if we look which other games RGG has published we can speculate that the next Promo card may be based on Power Grid or Stone Age or something.

Walled Village was for Carcassone I believe and Governor of course was for Puerto Rico.
Envoy, Black Market and Stash were for annoyance.

I think DXV indicated there were thoughts of doing one for PG but nothing was working out thematically, so we got Walled Village from Carcassone instead.

15th anniversary of Bohnanza coming up...

I wonder what the pun will be. :p

[Kuildeous]

15th anniversary of Bohnanza coming up...

I wonder what the pun will be. :p

Puns? I'm tired of those.

Bean there, done that.

[FireChipmunks]

15th anniversary of Bohnanza coming up...

I wonder what the pun will be. :p

Puns? I'm tired of those.

Bean there, done that.

No need to be rude just 'cause you don't like puns.

P.S. Its "been", not "bean". You can't even spell.

[LastFootnote]

15th anniversary of Bohnanza coming up...

I wonder what the pun will be. :p

Puns? I'm tired of those.

Bean there, done that.

No need to be rude just 'cause you don't like puns.

P.S. Its "been", not "bean". You can't even spell.

...I totally can't tell if you're serious or not.

[Donald X.]

I think DXV indicated there were thoughts of doing one for PG but nothing was working out thematically, so we got Walled Village from Carcassone instead.

Walled Village was already out. You got Governor instead of a Power Grid card.

[FireChipmunks]

15th anniversary of Bohnanza coming up...

I wonder what the pun will be. :p

Puns? I'm tired of those.

Bean there, done that.

No need to be rude just 'cause you don't like puns.

P.S. Its "been", not "bean". You can't even spell.

...I totally can't tell if you're serious or not.

I totally wasn't, but I tried very hard to seem like I was. =P

[sitnaltax]

When news for a forthcoming expansion actually comes out, someone better start a new thread for it, 'cause I'm going to stop looking at this one to keep my heart from breaking every new post.

[ftl]

Yeah, when we get new info, I bet there'll be a new thread for it.

[timchen]

When news for a forthcoming expansion actually comes out, someone better start a new thread for it, 'cause I'm going to stop looking at this one to keep my heart from breaking every new post.

Especially when the game designer himself posted in the thread...

[kn1tt3r]

As I did not see an entry yet for this expansion, I decided to post this here. We have decided to postpone the release of the Dominion: Base Card item for 3-4 weeks in order to add something to the box that we hope everyone will find useful. We will post more information about this when we are closer to releasing the game. Thanks for your understanding.

Source: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/784112/dominion-base-cards

[werothegreat]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

[Donald X.]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

I am not sure whether you're talking about Base Cards or Dark Ages. For Base Cards, man, you know what all the cards do! You just don't know what they look like. For Dark Ages, you will get a blurb when the product page goes up at RGG, and then previews a week before it comes out, probably the full week ahead of the week in which GenCon starts, to reduce the chance that the previews get spoiled. You know, the Monday of the week before even if GenCon starts Thursday or whatever it is. But uh that's it, and that's normal.

[LastFootnote]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

Ah, but October wasn't the official 'release date'. It was the 'all the non-GenCon attendees release date'. Likewise, we'll know all the Dark Ages cards in August, but won't be able to actually buy it until around October. At least that's how it's been for recent sets.

[Donald X.]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

Ah, but October wasn't the official 'release date'. It was the 'all the non-GenCon attendees release date'. Likewise, we'll know all the Dark Ages cards in August, but won't be able to actually buy it until around October. At least that's how it's been for recent sets.

You are thinking of other sets. Hinterlands came out in October at Essen. I started previews a week before Essen.

Prosperity had shipping problems that meant people who got it at Essen had it way before other people. Cornucopia and Alchemy debuted at the Gathering of Friends and that meant people knew the cards a while before they could get them.

I expect that copies of Dark Ages at GenCon will have been shipped normally, not air-shipped, and if that's so then it will be full-on out then. If that doesn't work out and they are air-shipped then yes there will be whatever shipping delay before stores have it.

[Davio]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

I am not sure whether you're talking about Base Cards or Dark Ages. For Base Cards, man, you know what all the cards do! You just don't know what they look like. For Dark Ages, you will get a blurb when the product page goes up at RGG, and then previews a week before it comes out, probably the full week ahead of the week in which GenCon starts, to reduce the chance that the previews get spoiled. You know, the Monday of the week before even if GenCon starts Thursday or whatever it is. But uh that's it, and that's normal.

I liked how with Hinterlands the cards were revealed two at a time. I was disappointed when the German rules were leaked.

This gave us a chance to have some interesting discussions about what we thought about the cards and it's fun to be wrong, ain't it, my dear friend Jack?

[yuma]

I liked how with Hinterlands the cards were revealed two at a time. I was disappointed when the German rules were leaked.

It was noticing that there were two (fool's gold and nomad camp wasn't it?) new cards on isotropic that got me curious and eventually led me to investigate online discovering theory's blog and this wonderful forum. I really liked how two were previewed at a time and hope it can be replicated? Without any leaks this time.

[LastFootnote]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

Ah, but October wasn't the official 'release date'. It was the 'all the non-GenCon attendees release date'. Likewise, we'll know all the Dark Ages cards in August, but won't be able to actually buy it until around October. At least that's how it's been for recent sets.

You are thinking of other sets. Hinterlands came out in October at Essen. I started previews a week before Essen.

Prosperity had shipping problems that meant people who got it at Essen had it way before other people. Cornucopia and Alchemy debuted at the Gathering of Friends and that meant people knew the cards a while before they could get them.

I expect that copies of Dark Ages at GenCon will have been shipped normally, not air-shipped, and if that's so then it will be full-on out then. If that doesn't work out and they are air-shipped then yes there will be whatever shipping delay before stores have it.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the detailed response. I look forward to your previews for Dark Ages and hope to see the 'two cards per day' scheme again.

[werothegreat]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

I am not sure whether you're talking about Base Cards or Dark Ages. For Base Cards, man, you know what all the cards do! You just don't know what they look like. For Dark Ages, you will get a blurb when the product page goes up at RGG, and then previews a week before it comes out, probably the full week ahead of the week in which GenCon starts, to reduce the chance that the previews get spoiled. You know, the Monday of the week before even if GenCon starts Thursday or whatever it is. But uh that's it, and that's normal.

I was mainly talking about the base cards.  I really want to know what they look like!  I'm also curious about this extra stuff Rio Grande is talking about, though I'm sure your lips are sealed about that.

[Thisisnotasmile]

From a couple of pages back:

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

Edit: Aaaaaaand I just realised that was in response to you. Not really sure what else you're asking for at this point.

[werothegreat]

From a couple of pages back:

Given that the Base cards are supposed to be coming out this month, when do you think we'll start seeing the art for them?

Probably not until it's out and someone scans them.

Edit: Aaaaaaand I just realised that was in response to you. Not really sure what else you're asking for at this point.

Mainly I'm antsy and trying to stir up conversation.

[werothegreat]

Also - Hinterlands had an Amazon page up for a couple months before release - the Base Cards don't have a page...

[Willvon]

Was news ever this scarce for other expansions?  I mean, news for Hinterlands (such as images and card details) came well before the October release date.

Ah, but October wasn't the official 'release date'. It was the 'all the non-GenCon attendees release date'. Likewise, we'll know all the Dark Ages cards in August, but won't be able to actually buy it until around October. At least that's how it's been for recent sets.

You are thinking of other sets. Hinterlands came out in October at Essen. I started previews a week before Essen.

Prosperity had shipping problems that meant people who got it at Essen had it way before other people. Cornucopia and Alchemy debuted at the Gathering of Friends and that meant people knew the cards a while before they could get them.

I expect that copies of Dark Ages at GenCon will have been shipped normally, not air-shipped, and if that's so then it will be full-on out then. If that doesn't work out and they are air-shipped then yes there will be whatever shipping delay before stores have it.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the detailed response. I look forward to your previews for Dark Ages and hope to see the 'two cards per day' scheme again.

I too eagerly look forward to the card previews before the release of Dark Ages.  In fact, it would be great if Donald was able to start the previews a little earlier this time.  Since it appears there are going to be over 40 cards, he could easily start previews three weeks before release at Gencon and still not reveal all of the cards before hand. 

Personally, I would love to see the whole expansion be revealed two cards at a time over a period of weeks.  The anticipation and excitement that would bring to its release would be quite profound.  Imagine all of the discussion it will prompt also, and not discussion about what somebody thinks is going to be in the set, but discussion about the real cards and how to integrate them into our games.

Please, Donald, if you can fit it into your schedule, give us as many previews as you reasonably can.  I think it was the best possible way to reveal the last expansion, and everybody loved it.

[greatexpectations]

higher resolution image here.

[Deadlock39]

Base cards only! Not playable by itself.

But since just buying money and VP is the best strategy, this is all I really need. 

 

[jonts26]

Is the "Base Cards Only" warning on the box art itself? It's kind of ugly. Why not just put it on the plastic wrapping?

[greatexpectations]

i assume it is on the box itself because previous expansions have a similar warning note.  it just stands out on this box more because it is a smaller sized box.

[werothegreat]

i assume it is on the box itself because previous expansions have a similar warning note.  it just stands out on this box more because it is a smaller sized box.

Where did you find the picture?

[kn1tt3r]

Where did you find the picture?

It's on the RGG website: http://www.riograndegames.com/games.html?id=419

(High Resolution Image 1 at the bottom of the page: http://www.riograndegames.com/uploads/Game/Game_419_highRes1.tif)

[werothegreat]

So... we're officially halfway through May...  is Donald X pulling a George R R Martin on us with this Base Cards set?

[LastFootnote]

So... we're officially halfway through May...  is Donald X pulling a George R R Martin on us with this Base Cards set?

I don't think Donald X. even needed to be involved with the Base Cards set. There wasn't any game design needed to my knowledge. It's just Rio Grande and their suppliers.

Like I said in the BGG thread, I expect it on March 87th.

[werothegreat]

So... we're officially halfway through May...  is Donald X pulling a George R R Martin on us with this Base Cards set?

I don't think Donald X. even needed to be involved with the Base Cards set. There wasn't any game design needed to my knowledge. It's just Rio Grande and their suppliers.

Like I said in the BGG thread, I expect it on March 87th.

The umpteenth of Septober?

[LastFootnote]

So... we're officially halfway through May...  is Donald X pulling a George R R Martin on us with this Base Cards set?

I don't think Donald X. even needed to be involved with the Base Cards set. There wasn't any game design needed to my knowledge. It's just Rio Grande and their suppliers.

Like I said in the BGG thread, I expect it on March 87th.

The umpteenth of Septober?

That's when I'm expecting Dark Ages (for non-GenCon-attendees).

[WanderingWinder]

They've been pretty good at getting real expansions out within a month or so of when they say. So I think Dark ages will be out at the con, and then afterwards only a few weeks.

[jonts26]

And if Isotropic still exists, which it may very well, we should have Dark Ages up after it's released at GenCon as well.

[Davio]

With all the silence on the official app front, it wouldn't surprise me if Isotropic made it through Dark Ages, Guilds and beyond.

It wouldn't surprise me either if it turned out the official app is just a shell built on Isotropic. 

Kind of like this "iPhone":

[Kirian]

With all the silence on the official app front, it wouldn't surprise me if Isotropic made it through Dark Ages, Guilds and beyond.

It wouldn't surprise me either if it turned out the official app is just a shell built on Isotropic. 

Kind of like this "iPhone"

Hey!  I know a genuine iProne when I see one!

[kn1tt3r]

Dark Ages:




EDIT: Source

[Davio]

Dark Ages:

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1319703.jpg

That art is just horrible.

Why does it have a mandwarf?
And I've seen those ruins on holiday in Side once.

It doesn't really fit with the other boxes and they should have done something about the 'Expansion warning from the 80's' three expansions ago.

[Ozle]

Is anyone else now thinking of what a Mandwarf card would have on it...

[def]

Something between Mandarin and Wharf I assume.

[jsh357]

I like it.  At a glance, it promises fun attacks for the whole family.

[werothegreat]

Dark Ages:

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1319703.jpg

That art is just horrible.

Why does it have a mandwarf?
And I've seen those ruins on holiday in Side once.

It doesn't really fit with the other boxes and they should have done something about the 'Expansion warning from the 80's' three expansions ago.

Oh, don't be such a spoilsport.  IT'S EXPANSION NEWS.  -shakes you vigorously, then jumps around all over the place-

EDIT: P.S. - I KNEW it was going to be red.  Well, this is rust-ish, but it's close enough to red.

[Tdog]

Hadn't seen this posted here, so here's the website for Official Online Dominion http://www.playdominion.com. Look promising?

[yuma]

Hadn't seen this posted here, so here's the website for Official Online Dominion http://www.playdominion.com. Look promising?

"Hi!

Thanks for visiting Dominion Online, the only version endorsed by Donald X and Rio Grande Games.

We'll be launching later this summer and will let you know as soon as the game is ready to play.

We're excited to show you what we've been up to.

Trisha
Any questions? Email me at help@funsockets.com"

Get that response after putting e-mail in.

[jsh357]

Let's flood her with questions!  She asked!

[Kirian]

Let's flood her with questions!  She asked!

Oh dear.  She really did, didn't she.  I mean... damn that is so tempting...

[chogg]

Before we enter our email addresses, can we get confirmation that the site is legit?  At first glance, I see nothing that spammers couldn't have made.

[WanderingWinder]

I really don't see a reason not to ask her pertinent questions (assuming Trisha is a woman... probably pretty safe there). Now, I mean, don't flood her with crazy stuff, but....