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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2012, 03:09:51 pm »
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Torturer, man. I was like "Your opponent gets to CHOOSE what attack hits them? This is like the best attack to be hit with ever!"

"Oh, it's discard two cards, not discard down to three. Well that does kind of suck"

"Oh, it draws a ton of cards for your opponent to make it really easy to chain a bunch of them"

"Oh crap I just discarded my entire hand the third time in a row, maybe it's time to start taking curses?"

Major learning curve with that one!

Once you've been forced to discard your entire hand once, or take a whole bunch of curses, most of the time you've already lost.  I'm not sure how much extra win% there is to be had in figuring out when to take non obvious curses (trashers in hand, forge, etc.)  I'm sure its non zero, but I think I can probably count on 1 hand the number of times I've survived being on the losing side of torturer lock.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2012, 03:25:40 pm »
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I think what's key is, because you take the curses in hand, you have a little time before they start to wreck your deck. So if you're able to quickly adapt to fight the Torturer lock, your best bet will be to do it right away. If, instead, you scrap those early turns by discarding, you're just giving them free turns to keep building that engine.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2012, 04:09:50 pm »
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I think I managed to skip the whole "village idiot" phase, but I am only just now getting past being a Great Hall idiot.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2012, 04:12:16 pm »
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I think I managed to skip the whole "village idiot" phase, but I am only just now getting past being a Great Hall idiot.

When first playing with Intrigue, my brothers and I would buy (or Ironworks) piles of Great Halls and would play Pawns for +1 Card, +1 Action every time. Literally. We missed the Village Idiot, but we certainly were Cantrip Idiots.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2012, 04:18:57 pm »
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When i first played Dominion, I was never a Village Idiot. I was a "One of Every Card Idiot." I would go about my business like this: "Well, I have a Village, a Milita, a Moat, a Cellar... now I need a Moneylender, a Laboratory, a Spy, okay..."
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2012, 04:23:46 pm »
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When i first played Dominion, I was never a Village Idiot. I was a "One of Every Card Idiot." I would go about my business like this: "Well, I have a Village, a Milita, a Moat, a Cellar... now I need a Moneylender, a Laboratory, a Spy, okay..."

And this is why Cornucopia was invented!
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2012, 04:36:03 pm »
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Village Idiots didn't get an expansion, but they did get a couple of cards: Vineyards, Scrying Pool and Fishing Village. :D
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2012, 07:08:45 am »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2012, 08:01:46 am »
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I was never a Village idiot either. I was a "random buy" idiot. "My opponent bought a Militia? Cool. Now how about some Bureaucrats."
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2012, 07:06:13 pm »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
But you need a province to get Diadem  ;)
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #60 on: July 30, 2012, 07:10:48 pm »
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Village Idiots didn't get an expansion, but they did get a couple of cards: Vineyards, Scrying Pool and Fishing Village. :D

Hey, and University? It's a village that gains you a Village! (Border Village is too).
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #61 on: July 30, 2012, 08:42:57 pm »
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Sea Hag - I figured this was like saboteur, an attack that didn't benefit the attacker at all.
I actually gave another player a Sea Hag via Trickser, because noone had bought it early game and we all thought it was useless. (No other cursers, maybe apart from Trickser, were available... hm maybe there were already some of the curses gone to justify this, but there still were some)
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #62 on: July 30, 2012, 10:18:04 pm »
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Sea Hag - I figured this was like saboteur, an attack that didn't benefit the attacker at all.
I actually gave another player a Sea Hag via Trickser, because noone had bought it early game and we all thought it was useless. (No other cursers, maybe apart from Trickser, were available... hm maybe there were already some of the curses gone to justify this, but there still were some)

I think you are talking about Swindler when you say Trickster, right?  Probably a translation thing.  Neat! :)
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2012, 11:52:57 pm »
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Trickster sounds like Jester to me, but Swindler makes more sense.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2012, 08:30:50 am »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
But you need a province to get Diadem  ;)

Not necessarily. There's a puzzle in there somewhere but I don't think it's interesting enough.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #65 on: July 31, 2012, 08:31:48 am »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
But you need a province to get Diadem  ;)

Not necessarily. There's a puzzle in there somewhere but I don't think it's interesting enough.

Thief. Too bad it ain't a village.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #66 on: July 31, 2012, 08:33:49 am »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
But you need a province to get Diadem  ;)

Not necessarily. There's a puzzle in there somewhere but I don't think it's interesting enough.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #67 on: July 31, 2012, 08:36:50 am »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
But you need a province to get Diadem  ;)

Not necessarily. There's a puzzle in there somewhere but I don't think it's interesting enough.
Thief, Possession, Masquerade
Or some stupid person could Amb/Masq you a Province.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #68 on: July 31, 2012, 09:04:52 am »
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Trickster sounds like Jester to me, but Swindler makes more sense.

Trickser is the German card name for Swindler. Jester is tranlated to Harlekin.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2012, 04:07:15 pm »
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You forgot the biggest one: Diadem. :)
But you need a province to get Diadem  ;)

Not necessarily. There's a puzzle in there somewhere but I don't think it's interesting enough.
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Or some stupid person could Amb/Masq you a Province.
Ambassador can neither return nor cause others to gain Diadem. Also, are these spoiler tags really necessary?
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2012, 04:20:42 pm »
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Trickster sounds like Jester to me, but Swindler makes more sense.

Trickser is the German card name for Swindler. Jester is tranlated to Harlekin.

Is there a list of translations somewhere?
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2012, 04:58:03 pm »
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In German or all other languages?
On http://www.dominionblog.de you can read the German card names in the dropdown of the main menu.

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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2012, 09:50:23 pm »
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For me it was definitely Ambassador, such a brutal card and still I don't have the full hang of it.

Two other cards I have problems with are Governor and Fool's Gold. I know both are very powerful but I rarely win when they are on the board.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #73 on: July 31, 2012, 11:58:08 pm »
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In German or all other languages?
On http://www.dominionblog.de you can read the German card names in the dropdown of the main menu.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Trading Post is Handelsposten in German.  HANDELSPOSTEN.  That is my new favorite word.
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Re: Cards You Horribly Misjudged
« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2012, 12:04:18 am »
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For me it was definitely Ambassador, such a brutal card and still I don't have the full hang of it.

Two other cards I have problems with are Governor and Fool's Gold. I know both are very powerful but I rarely win when they are on the board.

Ambassador: Just play 3+ player games. Then it's not so powerful. In three player, if all three players are playing it at the same rate, then for every time you play it you get rid of two cards but also gain two cards. And that's the best case. But in two player, you can get rid of two for every one card you gain.

Governor: Use Governor to gain gold. Then, use the draw to get Governors and Gold together. Then, remodel Gold to Provinces.

Fool's Gold: Get early + Buy to buy as many as possible. Trash pretty much everything that's not Fool's Gold. Draw a pile of cards together. Most should be Fool's Gold. Use your + Buy card to take advantage of all your money.
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