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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Tales Of the Undouchebag: Post the most egregious undo's you've granted.

« on: September 23, 2023, 01:55:47 pm »

I'm still generally confused as to why "undo" is even a feature in online dominion. At least the way it's implemented. If you've seen new information, then undo should simply never be possible. That's how pretty much any group I know would play IRL. If you haven't seen new information, then undo should be automatic without needing to request it.

It's a courtesy, since playing online is much faster than playing IRL and it's easy to just zone out and do the wrong thing. I'm sure there's many times when I just thought I had one more buy than I did, bought a cheap card thinking I'd be able to buy another cheap card, saw my turn immediately end, and immediately clicked undo, and was very grateful for the option even though I'd technically seen my next hand already. IRL what would happen is I'd take my two villages and my opponent would say "pretty sure you have only one buy there sport" and I'd go "oh right" and put them back and take a Gold or whatever. and the undo button is the online equivalent of that.

yeah like If I bought a 4-5 cost card with 11 coins, you can bet I prolly thought I had a buy. I'd easily grant that undo, even though there obviously technically is new info with cards seen.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Tales Of the Undouchebag: Post the most egregious undo's you've granted.

« on: September 22, 2023, 07:02:21 pm »

I'm still generally confused as to why "undo" is even a feature in online dominion. At least the way it's implemented. If you've seen new information, then undo should simply never be possible. That's how pretty much any group I know would play IRL. If you haven't seen new information, then undo should be automatic without needing to request it.

I dunno. While I agree new info in most scenarios is where I draw the line too. But, sometimes with quick play, especially in the beginning, or middle you might preplay, forgetting you have 2 sailors in play or something, and obviously would have say bought a 6 over a 3, but had a 3 prebought etc, especially when the deck didn't shuffle or anything.  I'd rather play fast with erasers in reasonable scenarios, that slow AF and be SUPER slow and deliberate about everything when playing with reasonable people.  Sometimes misclicks or just mental mistakes that you notice immediately deserve an undo. 

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Tales Of the Undouchebag: Post the most egregious undo's you've granted.

« on: September 22, 2023, 02:53:14 pm »

Got a new one.

Dude hits 6 coins.  Buys a gold. Then immediately undoes.
 I'm pretty auto undo, so I thought he might have wanted a cobbler or sacred grove maybe.
 Instead, he scouting parties to discard 2 tunnels for two golds, because he "misclicked" the first gold buy. I can relate, I mean, don't we all hate it when we misclick on events when we're trying to buy gold? 

I mean, I guess he is right. If you just think about it for two seconds, if you could get two gold instead of one gold and clear two victory cards from your next hand, why wouldn't you make that move?

 

Some people.  What kind of an idiot buys Militi in a tunnel game anyway, except in very limited scenarios.
 

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat and potentially useful card interactions

« on: June 08, 2023, 11:17:47 pm »

I think this one actually now qualifies as a combo since any reshuffle triggers it, so I pulled it from the other thread.

This one was really kind of neat, although an extreme edge case.  If you gain a Siren with a Sheepdog in hand and you are at the end of your draw pile you can gain it without trashing if the Siren ends up triggering a reshuffle.

I was wondering if it mattered whether you actually draw the Siren there, and it's easier than that. I just tested it online, and this works whenever the Sheepdog makes you shuffle the gained Siren into your deck--that's where the Siren loses track of itself. You don't have to draw the Siren from the Sheepdog effect, just shuffle the Siren into your deck with the Sheepdog effect.

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Dominion General Discussion / Question Re: Highwayman and COTR

« on: June 07, 2023, 09:13:08 pm »

Was playing a game where my opponent had a Highwayman in play and I called  Coin of the Realm to get nullified as I did even need the actions and wanted to use the lone gold in my hand Why didn't this invoke the highwayman penalty?

"Until then, the first Treasure each other player plays each turn does nothing.".  This doesn't mention any "Buy-phase" exclusion, and the COTR is obviously played as per the dictionary.  My gut says that the answer is going to Be that called cards aren't played, But I mean they are... I just played that coin. It's not like it was discarded, it literally goes into play.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat card interactions that were useful in the game you found them in.

« on: June 07, 2023, 06:53:17 pm »

This one was really kind of neat, although an extreme edge case.  If you gain a Siren with a Sheepdog in hand and you are at the end of your draw pile you can gain it without trashing if the Siren ends up Being one of the 2 cards that you draw. triggering a reshuffle.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat and potentially useful card interactions

« on: June 03, 2023, 08:32:50 pm »

Launch and Cursed Village is amazing.  As long as you have 3 coins in hand, you spend all your coins and then get to launch to an often 2/3 card cursed village hand, which means you basically get a whole new hand to mess with, plus the coins you disappeared to pay for the Launch.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat and potentially useful card interactions

« on: May 20, 2023, 02:44:43 am »

Launch is just crazy strong in a Landing Party game.  as long as you have 3 coins in hand you can activate all of your landing parties topdecked and then go about playing those, along with your other cards in hand.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread

« on: May 13, 2023, 06:25:47 pm »

In a Tomb game I was able to use the Spell Scroll & Treasurer combo to kill the last 9, and accumulate 36 coins clearing the last 3 Provinces in the process.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat card interactions that were useful in the game you found them in.

« on: April 28, 2023, 11:27:11 pm »

Neat combo here.  Tactician and Way of the Owl with a Weaver in hand.discard your hand and draw 6 more cards.  If you have + actions it's basically a free tactician turn and if you don't you at least can use the coins to buys stuff/get nights in play on your often worthless leg of the tactician turn.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat and potentially useful card interactions

« on: April 16, 2023, 01:14:13 am »

King's Cache and Capital.  You get 18 coins & 3 buys but only have to pay back 6.  It's like a triple cash back credit card.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Annoying and potentially harmful card anti-synergies

« on: April 12, 2023, 08:40:27 pm »

Pickaxe and Canal have a nasty interaction as now you will have to trash base 4 cost cards in order to gain loots.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Annoying and potentially harmful card anti-synergies

« on: April 12, 2023, 01:24:05 am »

Guardian blocks the trashing of a Curse than an Old Witch would normally trash from your hand

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Let's Discuss ... / Re: Let's Discuss: Quartermaster

« on: April 10, 2023, 12:35:37 am »

1. Obviously depends on the other cards. If there are $5 trashers you probably want those first. If there's a spammable $4 you probably want this early. With Swamp Shacks you want a lot of Quartermasters.
2. At some point you're going to switch to estates when you run out of actions that you want. I'm not very good at gauging when to do this.
3. Wall. Don't get Quartermasters when there's Wall. I did this once and was very sad.

I mean it's not that bad for wall as instead of gaining a card you could just keep Taking a card (assuming there arent any there)

They are really good in games where you get points for acquiring cards that you don't really want in your deck like Museum when there are a lot of stop actions, or Plateau Shepherds.

Generally speaking if you are going to get one, you probably want to get it early

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat card interactions that were useful in the game you found them in.

« on: April 07, 2023, 05:19:38 pm »

Reckless Trait cards stack with "play twice" and "play three times" effects. I used King's Cache on a Reckless Bank to play it six times for $66, and had enough buys to buy all 8 Provinces.

Just imagine a reckless possession/kings court(s) combo.  You might be able to sneak a nap in before your next turn if they don't end it first.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat card interactions that were useful in the game you found them in.

« on: April 07, 2023, 05:15:11 pm »

Reckless and Island.  You get to island two cards and it hits your mat and doesn't ever get returned.  Super fast thinking early.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat and potentially useful card interactions

« on: March 22, 2023, 10:59:04 pm »

Taskmaster and Souk is just nasty.  As long as you keep getting souks you just stack the taskmaster, thus allowing you to play all the souks you have amassed since you have likely thinned all the coppers and estates out of your deck by then anyway.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread

« on: February 10, 2023, 12:38:19 am »

Gained 16 Loot cards in one turn.

Reckless Searches are fun 

gimme the loot gimme the loot

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread

« on: February 10, 2023, 12:37:52 am »

My opponent way of the ratted Necropolis with a 5/2 open and no two on the board.  Funny I guess. 

But then they did the same thing t 3.

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Dominion General Discussion / Celebrities hidden in Dominion cards

« on: February 01, 2023, 11:57:19 pm »

Merchant: Emma Kearney aka Debbie Gallagher on Shameless
Mapmaker: Macy Gray
Rich:  Mallory Archer
Transmute: Jerry Garcia

what else ya got?

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Semi-Interesting Dominion Moments Thread

« on: January 30, 2023, 06:48:15 pm »

Was going to Zombie Apprentice to hopefully draw the needed +buy loot but wasn't wearing my glasses. Instead Misclicked a Zombie Mason to take the penultimate province by hitting a 7-cost loot allowing me to buy the last one and end the game.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Potion in the base set

« on: January 29, 2023, 10:36:16 pm »

Counterpoint: Potion in the base set makes it not the Base set anymore. The base set shouldn’t have extra mechanics like that.

Counter hot-take: Potion should cost $3 and also give +Buy, so (A) it’s less punishing to go for a Potion card in the opening and (B) Potion can still be useful in situations where you don’t want the Alchemy card but there are no buys otherwise.

I like the 3 cost + buy thing a lot.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Badly designed cards

« on: January 27, 2023, 04:07:41 pm »

Miller.  Why does this only have one option?  The theory of the Townsfolk pile is to grab elders so that you can multiply cards that have multiple options.  I don't see why this wouldn't be like "choose one: +1 action +4 cards take or  +1 action or +4 cards take 1 treasure" so that you could get an elder benefit and gain an extra action & card.

I appreciate the thought for uniformity of idea, but that phrasing makes much less sense than the Miller we already have. This alternate version would essentially be creating an entirely new wording for a mechanic that hasn’t really changed since its first publishing.

The real problem with the Townsfolk pile is that Elder is basically a Silver that is occasionally also Throne Room for about 30 cards. The concept is amazing, I just wish it cost less for what it does. It’s a lot of work to get to for not a whole lot of payoff IMHO.

Oh I just came up with the wording off the cuff.  Really any 2nd option on Miller would be nice  just to make miller &elder a lil more powerful as I agree they are just a little weaker than they should be.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Badly designed cards

« on: January 27, 2023, 04:04:01 pm »

Gladiator.  I actually love the card, but the "pretend to think" option is stupid AF. 1st off it's not really that funny. And why "pretend"?  I mean reading is thinking.  And it slows the game down sooooo much.  Now I can see have an optional reveal, but you know I don't have it?  Why slow the game down so often.

Supplies. 
 From another FDS thread http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20583.msg858250#msg858250

Why don't we have a play all supplies button.  The number of times you would ever not want to play all supplies is so small as it is. Especially when people stack these all the time, it really slows the game to play them individually. And if there's undo's or changeling it's almost unbearable.  Literally the biggest no-brainer in the history of the Earth.  At a bare minimum could we get an under-the-card autoplay option to always play all supplies that we could turn off in the rare game where its not wanted (maybe wall end game or your opponent has a monkey in play etc-- but these are a rare exception to the 99.9% of the time where we all want to play every Supplies we are lucky enough t draw.

Oh and it's undervalued too.  Like it's better than silver. Probably should cost 3 too.  In fact I would love a feature that when supplies is in supply silver would cost 2 and supplies 3.... And you'd still buy supplies, which just shows how criminally underpriced this card actually is.

I have mentioned this to 1000's of players since supplies was incepted.  All but one were like "fuck yeah that's awesome". and one person ever was merely ambivalent either way.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Badly designed cards

« on: January 27, 2023, 03:25:46 pm »

Distant Shores.  Why does the 6 cost elite card in a pile spam me with estates? It should have been made as a +1 vp and exile an estate.

The Allies expansion doesn’t have an Exile mat. Just don’t buy Distant Shore so early.

I usually avoid it altogether, though sometimes very late it is ok.

I guess if the exile mat is a problem then just make it +1 vp token.  the elite card in any pile shouldn't spam with junk.