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[Schneau]

But I didn't take into account Jimmm's plan for Schneau to build a Res-station in Jburg next turn.  thinking about this, I may drive Miami, Bogota, Lima, treat all.  It saves all my yellow cards for now, and I'm ready to deal with Bogota and MC soon.  This leaves Africa completely up to other people.

I like this option. It would be nice to not worry about Lima. Another option is to Drive to Miami, MC, treat, drive to Lima. Since Lima has come up this time through and MC has not, MC should have about the same priority as Lima. Bogota has already come up, so it's not as worrisome. And since Jimmmmm won't have extra actions to treat MC, it would be good to clear it on the way to Lima. So, either of these plans has you end up in Lima, and either clears MC or Lima. I'd slightly prefer clearing MC, but like both options.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I like the idea of Shraeye keeping his yellow cards, especially with Lima available to be transferred to him, either directly from Jimmm at somepoint (while in this hemisphere) or indirectly through me, since Jimmm and I will be together in Chicago (or Toronto) soon.

[shraeye]

some minor mistakes, SFS.  Schneau has Lima, and he can't pass the cards through you as you still have a receiving restriciton, just not a passing one.  So for you to have Lima, Schneau would have to give you it while you're both in Lima.

@Schneau, I prefer treating Lima for the same reason you prefer MC.  Lima has already come up this cycle.  That means MC will have 3 cubes instead of 2 sometime later, and that would be an optimal time for me to treat all there.  I feel like it's stronger if I clear 3 cubes at once instead of 2 cubes at once, and then somebody clears 1 later.

[Jimmmmm]

I think Lima has a slightly higher priority than MC, since it's possible that MC won't even get to 3 before the next epidemic. Of course, it is possible that MC will be hit twice before shraeye's next turn, but again very unlikely I think. I think either driving to Lima, or flying to MC and then driving to Lima would both be okay, depending on how much of a risk you think it is leaving MC for another 4 turns.

[shraeye]

I think leaving MC is a low-medium risk, especially if I have the card in my hand.  I'm not sure how MC could stay at 2 until the next epidemic, but maybe I'm missing something.

I think I'm ready to take my turn,
Drive to Miami
Drive to Bogota
Drive to Lima
Treat Disease

Does anybody have strong objections to that, before I post it bold?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

No objection here.  Sorry about the mis-attribution of the Lima card.  I think I've got the researcher thing solidified in my brain now, but I make no guarantees.

I did go out and buy this game this afternoon, and will try to start a game this evening with my GF.

[Jimmmmm]

I think leaving MC is a low-medium risk, especially if I have the card in my hand.

What makes MC a risk at all is that with 4 players, it's so long until your next turn

I'm not sure how MC could stay at 2 until the next epidemic, but maybe I'm missing something.

The minimum number of infection cards to be drawn before the next epidemic is 4, and MC is somewhere in the top 9 cards of the infection deck.

[shraeye]

No objection here.  Sorry about the mis-attribution of the Lima card.  I think I've got the researcher thing solidified in my brain now, but I make no guarantees.

I did go out and buy this game this afternoon, and will try to start a game this evening with my GF.

Yeah, this looks like a sweet game.  I probably will buy in in the future as well

I'm not sure how MC could stay at 2 until the next epidemic, but maybe I'm missing something.

The minimum number of infection cards to be drawn before the next epidemic is 4, and MC is somewhere in the top 9 cards of the infection deck.

Aha! I keep confusing the Infector cards and the player cards in my mind.  Thanks!

Also, if feels sooooo liberating to use the Edit button

[Schneau]

I think leaving MC is a low-medium risk, especially if I have the card in my hand.  I'm not sure how MC could stay at 2 until the next epidemic, but maybe I'm missing something.

I think I'm ready to take my turn,
Drive to Miami
Drive to Bogota
Drive to Lima
Treat Disease

Does anybody have strong objections to that, before I post it bold?

I like this, especially given your point about MC being better to totally clear once it has 3 cubes. Plus, if you're in MC at some point next turn, you'd be able to fly from there if need-be. Go for it!

[shraeye]

Then let it happen Qvist

1. Drive to Miami
2. Drive to Bogota
3. Drive to Lima
4. Treat Disease

[Qvist]

shraeye Medic draws London, Istanbul.

Infector: New York, Mexico City



Player 1: Jimmmmm Scientist (white)
Manila, San Francisco, Washington, New York

Player 2: SwitchedFromStarcraft Researcher
Sydney, St. Petersburg

Player 3: Schneau Operations Expert
Lima, Toronto, Atlanta, Bangkok

Player 4: shraeye Medic
Algiers, Sao Paolo, Mexico City, London, Istanbul

Jimmmmm's next.

[Jimmmmm]

Drive to Chicago
Share Knowledge with SwitchedFromStarcraft, taking St. Petersburg
Drive to Atlanta
Discover the Blue Cure (discard San Francisco, Washington, New York, St. Petersburg)

[shraeye]

Qvist, shouldn't all of the Lima cubes be gone?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Qvist, shouldn't all of the Lima cubes be gone?

reposted to add bold

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Well, as infectors go, that one was pretty lucky. My potential moves in a few minutes.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Well, we are all medics w/r/t blue. I'm standing in Chicago, so I'm thinking:

1) Drive to Toronto
2) Treat disease (gets rid of both cubes)
3) Drive to NYC
4) Drive to Madrid

That would let me eradicate blue on my next turn (assuming Schneau spends his first action by treating NYC), and would put me out in the field.  I think I should keep Sydney, for transportation purposes. Thoughts?  I'm off to dinner.

[Jimmmmm]

Well, we are all medics w/r/t blue. I'm standing in Chicago, so I'm thinking:

And, don't forget, shraeye can now remove all blue cubes just by being there

That would let me eradicate blue on my next turn (assuming Schneau spends his first action by treating NYC), and would put me out in the field.  I think I should keep Sydney, for transportation purposes. Thoughts?  I'm off to dinner.

Don't focus too much on eradication. It's nice if you can pull it off, but quite often not worth the trouble. Not saying that your suggested move isn't a good one, just in general the colours with more cubes and no cure usually need more attention than those with less cubes and the cure.

[Qvist]

Sorry about that Lima mistake. It's now fixed.

Jimmmmm Scientist (white) draws Kolkata, Tehran.

Infector: Chicago, Ho Chi Minh City



Player 1: Jimmmmm Scientist (white)
Manila, Kolkata, Tehran

Player 2: SwitchedFromStarcraft Researcher
Sydney

Player 3: Schneau Operations Expert
Lima, Toronto, Atlanta, Bangkok

Player 4: shraeye Medic
Algiers, Sao Paolo, Mexico City, London, Istanbul

SwitchedFromStarcraft's next.

[Schneau]

Now that blue has been cured, blue cards are only useful for catching flights and building research stations (if you're not me). So, I imagine my next turn will involve treating NYC, moving to Toronto, flying somewhere useful (probably HCMC or somewhere in Africa), and building a RS so that other people can follow me faster. I don't know what would be best for SFS to do, but likely should be something with Toronto or MC.

For reference:
Infection discard: Paris, Lima, Johannesburg, Bogotá, Mexico City, New York, Chicago, Ho Chi Minh City
Infection top of deck (don't know order): Toronto , Madrid, Cairo, Riyadh
Next epidemic: Any turn after SFS's current turn

[Jimmmmm]

Seeing as an epidemic is now possible at the end of SFS's turn, we need to get to those critical cities. I suggest SFS drives/ferries to San Francisco, Manila, Ho Chi Minh, and treats one there, and Schneau flies out from Toronto to Jo'burg. shraeye is in a really good spot, because he can treat Mexico City and anywhere else that's needed, so I guess we're probably hoping for the epidemic before his turn so he knows where to go.

[shraeye]

I can definitely slay a lot of disease cubes by going MC, treat, chicago (auto-treat), toronto (autotreat).  Then I'm close to a research station in NY that I can use to go to whereever Schneau builds a new one.

We need a plan to address Jburg, HCMC, and also Kinshasa and Khartoum are dangerous for us now.  Possibly it's more important that I focus on that instead of clearing MC and blue.  What are the rules with regard to Blue growing now that we ahve the cure?

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Well, I just lost my first game, and I think it's because we didn't deal with what we could while we were there.  I agree though, that in theory blue is less of an issue.

I see two choices:
a) Drive to Mex. City, treat one cube, direct flight to Sydney, drive to Manila.  It gets me close to HCM city for my next turn.
b) Drive to San Fran, drive to manila, drive to HCM city, treat one cube.

Either option takes a 3-cube city to a 2-cube city, and leaves another 3-cube city.  However, option A puts me in range of the neglected city, and option makes Mex City somebody else's problem. So two questions:

1) Is there another option?
2) Which option do I take?

NOTE TO ALL:  I'm going offshore fishing tomorrow, and will be unavailable from the time I say goodnight until about 15:00 forum time tomorrow afternoon.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I can definitely slay a lot of disease cubes by going MC, treat, chicago (auto-treat), toronto (autotreat).  Then I'm close to a research station in NY that I can use to go to whereever Schneau builds a new one.

We need a plan to address Jburg, HCMC, and also Kinshasa and Khartoum are dangerous for us now.  Possibly it's more important that I focus on that instead of clearing MC and blue.  What are the rules with regard to Blue growing now that we ahve the cure?

Blue continues to be handed out during infector phase if a blue card is drawn.  Blue infector cards only become irrelevant after the blue disease is eradicated.  So if we don't eradicate now, the blue cubes will continue to spring up. (I'm not using that to argue for blue cleanup.)

[Schneau]

Well, I just lost my first game, and I think it's because we didn't deal with what we could while we were there.  I agree though, that in theory blue is less of an issue.

I see two choices:
a) Drive to Mex. City, treat one cube, direct flight to Sydney, drive to Manila.  It gets me close to HCM city for my next turn.
b) Drive to San Fran, drive to manila, drive to HCM city, treat one cube.

Either option takes a 3-cube city to a 2-cube city, and leaves another 3-cube city.  However, option A puts me in range of the neglected city, and option makes Mex City somebody else's problem. So two questions:

1) Is there another option?
2) Which option do I take?

NOTE TO ALL:  I'm going offshore fishing tomorrow, and will be unavailable from the time I say goodnight until about 15:00 forum time tomorrow afternoon.

At first I thought you were saying we had lost this game, but realized you meant you played IRL and lost. Don't take it too hard - I haven't won any of the 3 games I've played!

Those are the only options I see too. shraeye is closer to MC, which might be an argument for going to HCMC. I could see either way.

[shraeye]

I think Schneau can deal with Jburg, I can get MC easy, so SFS should probably focus on HCMC.