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[Qvist]

Ok, wasn't so hard in the end. If Young Nick wasn't lying in the set claim, he has Cutpurse and Forge in his hand and an Intrigue card that he had from the start.
Young Nick, what was the result of your Wishing Well, you didn't tell about that yet? And what was the result of your Tactician? You didn't tell about that either. And why didn't you play a card in turn 2?

[ashersky]

Ok, I didn't do a fulll reread, but I have a question because the Role Madness confuses me:
If Morgrim indeed has 4 cards in hand, does it really mean he is townie?

Young Nick is the player to my right, joth. But I'm not sure if I understood your plan.
So if Young Nick is scum he will clearly choose himself right?
And if ashersky isn't lying, you will shoot me what's bad for us because I'm town.
If Young Nick isn't scum he will clearly choose someone obvtown, but then you're still in the same dilemma unless Young Nick does something WIFOM, then you should probably shoot him anyway. And if we know ashersky is lying, then you should shoot him anyway.

I will do some research now and try figuring out what cards Young Nick has still in his hand as he is my right player.

I think the fact that the mod said Morgrim is town makes him town, redirects and whatnot notwithstanding.

Here's what I think.  One of you and Young Nick is scum.  I know that YN came off pretty scummy D1, but I can confirm he didn't lie on D2 about his card.  I am waiting to hear what he has to say about last night to see what else we can confirm about him.  As for you, I've got nothing.

[jotheonah]

Yeah, I think with Qvist to YN's right there's no way my vig can help the town. Dammit.

[jotheonah]

I mean, I could use it to shoot ashersky or Qvist if we DON'T lynch Young Nick. Assuming YN doesn't veto one of them. But if we're sure there's exactly one scum left than there's no reason for him to.

But if he IS scum, that just hands the mafia an extra kill.

ALTHOUGH, we can still just lynch him the next day, right?

If we're sure the scum is one of those 3, we can't lose.

[Robz888]

I mean, I could use it to shoot ashersky or Qvist if we DON'T lynch Young Nick. Assuming YN doesn't veto one of them. But if we're sure there's exactly one scum left than there's no reason for him to.

But if he IS scum, that just hands the mafia an extra kill.

ALTHOUGH, we can still just lynch him the next day, right?

If we're sure the scum is one of those 3, we can't lose.

I think we ARE sure the scum are one of those three, so as long as you do use your Vig kill on one of them, we can't lose. This means we should lynch ashersky, shoot Qvist, and lynch Young Nick tomorrow, right? That's the best way to do it. Because ashersky can't be Vigged at all, and Qvist can't be Vigged if Young Nick is already dead because he would veto himself.

[Young Nick]

Why is Qvist not upset about his IC not working on him and working on Morgrim instead?

This gives me much pause. There is some form of redirection going on.


I used Wishing Well to inquire about Militia. I know Robz has this card.

Tactician lets me see how many cards each player has in hand. The results of this are somewhat confusing and I am still trying to flesh out their importance before revealing anything. It does not appear that the final scum can be caught in the same way that Dsell was by merely having too few cards in hand.

[Robz888]

It doesn't really matter, but I don't know why you would tell the scum what one of my Cards are.

[Robz888]

Hey ashersky, how many Cards do you have left?

[Robz888]

Nevermind, it doesn't matter.

[jotheonah]

I guess that it's important I be explicit about Frisk. I don't straight up know his alignment. I know he had four cards in hand night 2, while Dsell had 3, which implies town.

[Robz888]

I guess that it's important I be explicit about Frisk. I don't straight up know his alignment. I know he had four cards in hand night 2, while Dsell had 3, which implies town.

Oh. Well, I have a different reason to think he's town, maybe? I guess I might as well say: He used a card on me that invites me to a private QT with him. It's the Native Village Mat. It's just us, and you know, he's been mostly gone. That was two nights ago he did that.

[jotheonah]

Robz, your 829 makes a lot of sense.

Vote: ashersky

Shouldn't have said anything about that Moat, buddy.

[Robz888]

Vote: Ashersky

[Qvist]

Robz, your 829 makes a lot of sense.

Vote: ashersky

Shouldn't have said anything about that Moat, buddy.

I agree. Vote: ashersky

[Qvist]

Why is Qvist not upset about his IC not working on him and working on Morgrim instead?

I'm more confused than upset. In the end it doesn't really matter. I said basically everything what my town buddies need to know. And if scum kills me tonight, it's basically like I'm IC.

[ashersky]

You all really are terrible at reading me.  Do you not see how pro-town it was to tell you about the moat?  If I was scum, I don't say anything.

I can confirm YN's description of Tac; I have one.  I am down to three cards after being attacked last night, presumably by Robz militia.  I was forced to discard one card.  I used Market Square on N2 to grab two of Dsell's cards; that's why they weren't in the discard.

[ashersky]

Robz, did you attack me?  Someone did, and you've admitted to having the militia.

[ashersky]

I can offer an alternative strategy to killing me, btw.  Lynch Qvist, roleblock YN.  Lynch YN tomorrow.

[jotheonah]

I don't think RBing YN would stop him from making a decision in response to my powers.

[Robz888]

Robz, did you attack me?  Someone did, and you've admitted to having the militia.

I did NOT use my Militia.

[ashersky]

I don't think RBing YN would stop him from making a decision in response to my powers.

I meant so he can't NK and we have no deaths at night.

[jotheonah]

Unvote

Why is Robz cleared again?

[ashersky]

Unvote

Why is Robz cleared again?

Galz said he Sage'd him.

[ashersky]

Robz, did you attack me?  Someone did, and you've admitted to having the militia.

I did NOT use my Militia.

Well, I was attacked by someone, and discarded a card.

[ashersky]

Robz, did you attack me?  Someone did, and you've admitted to having the militia.

I did NOT use my Militia.

Well, I was attacked by someone, and discarded a card.

Could match joth's Torturer, or Q's Masq...