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[Dsell]

Qvist isn't going to be around till tomorrow. Has anyone besides him not setclaimed? Can we move on to other topics while we wait for him to get back?

I know I was semi-supportive of no-lynch at first but a big part of me thinks that since this is role madness, our best-hatched plans about getting the numbers might just come to naught. It actually might work if anyone with vigilante powers makes sure not to shoot, but mafia could have vigilante powers just as easily. And the fact that we've actually been rather successful at lynching mafia on day 1 recently makes me at least want to try. It's worth having more discussion about, certainly, but I think there's a good case to be made for trying to lynch scum.

[Eevee]

I agree with Dsell. Don't think the arguments for nolynch are convincing enough.

[Robz888]

I still support Vote: No Lynch, I think.

[pingpongsam]

I support No Lynch and tend to see support for pushing a D1 lynch as scum angling for an extra kill knowing that D1 lynches have historically always hit Town.

That said, I recognize that voting No Lynch can be construed as equally scummy.

Therefore, while I support No Lynch in theory I keep a vote cast where my strongest suspicions lie.

[Dsell]

I support No Lynch and tend to see support for pushing a D1 lynch as scum angling for an extra kill knowing that D1 lynches have historically always hit Town.

That said, I recognize that voting No Lynch can be construed as equally scummy.

Therefore, while I support No Lynch in theory I keep a vote cast where my strongest suspicions lie.

The bolded part is true historically but not recently. We've been doing pretty well recently, actually.

This whole post seemed like one huge hedge, basically. I do support voting for the scummiest read, though.

[jotheonah]

I support No Lynch because it's positive for parity AND for info. And I've always hate that someone has to die so early in the game, it's sad (granted there will still be night kills)

[ashersky]

I support No Lynch because it's positive for parity AND for info. And I've always hate that someone has to die so early in the game, it's sad (granted there will still be night kills)

I'm okay with no lynch, but what do we do at night.  No town shooting, but other things?  There are some odd powers with these cards...

[jotheonah]

OK to =
investigate (if you have an investigative card in your hand, that should be top priority)
use protective roles on people you have a strong town read on
roleblock people you have a strong scum read on

not OK to =
use a vig kill, even if you really want to

[jotheonah]

1. Play Modifiers (These modify how you play your cards)
         2. Protection (Doctors, Bodyguard etc)
         3. Roleblockers/Redirectors (pretty self-explanatory...)
         4. Investigative (Watcher, Tracker, etc)
         5. Kills (Mafia and/or Vigilante/Serial Killer)
         6. Discarders (Attack other player's hands)
         7. Inspection (Cops, Hand Glancers, etc)

ok, only ones I didn't cover are play modifiers, use your judgement on those and discarders. I'm not sure we should be using those tonight.

Also, if the person to my right could indicate to me some how, subtly, breadcrumb-style, which of these 7 types of cards they plan to play tonight, perhaps in their next post, that would be a little bit helpful to me. Purely optional, of course.

[Young Nick]

DAMA (drunk AMA) for maybe 15 minutes. Act fast or lose the opportunity.

[ashersky]

DAMA (drunk AMA) for maybe 15 minutes. Act fast or lose the opportunity.

What your favorite Dominion card?

[Young Nick]

DAMA (drunk AMA) for maybe 15 minutes. Act fast or lose the opportunity.

What your favorite Dominion card?

Sorry, though I said the window would be 15 minutes, it was closer to 30 seconds. Better luck next time!

[Qvist]

I have 4x Seaside and 1x Intrigue.

[Robz888]

OK to =
investigate (if you have an investigative card in your hand, that should be top priority)
use protective roles on people you have a strong town read on
roleblock people you have a strong scum read on

not OK to =
use a vig kill, even if you really want to

Agreed.

[Eevee]

Joth is my biggest scum read atm. Something about the way he worded that post (and the content also).

[jotheonah]

I'm just always your biggest scum read aren't I? ashersky asked a question. I made an effort to answer it.

Why would mafia encourage town to use investigative roles and discourage them from vigging? THat's silly.

[Dsell]

I'm just always your biggest scum read aren't I? ashersky asked a question. I made an effort to answer it.

Why would mafia encourage town to use investigative roles and discourage them from vigging? THat's silly.

That's a bad argument because scum wants to appear townie at this stage of the game.

[jotheonah]

That may be so, but it doesn't mean that pro-town behavior can now be read as anti-town.

[Dsell]

But you asked, "Why would mafia encourage town to use investigative roles and discourage them from vigging?" So I answered. And pointed out that that's no reason to give you town points. Because it's not "silly" for mafia to do that, as you suggest.

[jotheonah]

But Eevee said the content of my post gave him a scum read. Eevee, care to explain that a little more?

[Eevee]

I'm just always your biggest scum read aren't I? ashersky asked a question. I made an effort to answer it.

Why would mafia encourage town to use investigative roles and discourage them from vigging? THat's silly.

Okay apologies, that was a stupid missclick. Joth is my biggest town read atm!

[jotheonah]

Damn straight.

[Dsell]

I'm just always your biggest scum read aren't I? ashersky asked a question. I made an effort to answer it.

Why would mafia encourage town to use investigative roles and discourage them from vigging? THat's silly.

Okay apologies, that was a stupid missclick. Joth is my biggest town read atm!

Really? Because I agreed with your first point about that one post looking weird. Seemed rolefishy.

[Eevee]

It's less strong than usual though, because here scum would know the wording of investigative and stuff whereas normally they might not. But still.

[jotheonah]

I'm just always your biggest scum read aren't I? ashersky asked a question. I made an effort to answer it.

Why would mafia encourage town to use investigative roles and discourage them from vigging? THat's silly.

Okay apologies, that was a stupid missclick. Joth is my biggest town read atm!

Really? Because I agreed with your first point about that one post looking weird. Seemed rolefishy.

Are you talking about the last bit? Basically I have a card with an effect that depends on the card the person to my right uses, and I think it might be my best Night 1 choice. So, since that person can possibly communicate to me without communicating to scum (assuming they're town) then I could use that card much more effectively. If they choose not to, fine. I'll use my second best card instead.

If that's a rolefish, it's a very weirdly specific one.