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[Swowl]

So are all the people that haven't submitted their number opposed to the plan and not going to?

I don't think that is fair. If you think it will help you do it and if you don't then you don't. I currently still see a large upside for town. With all the side meta stuff I think that it is likely skum will gain knowledge of a lot of PRs regardless, but this system gives us a good way of determining who skum is down the road.

Either way imo it beats the crap out of the inevitable RVS talks of day 1.

[Swowl]

Oh.. one downside of going straight to a claiming plan and skipping over the most painfully awkward RVS stuff: I haven't had a chance to say hi to the people I don't know and do the pronoun thing before I start getting misgendered.

So, hi Datswan and Qvist... I haven't played with either of you before, have I? I'm Space, and I use they/them pronouns in here by preference, or she/her if people find that too difficult. Thanks :-)

Yo! Swan is fine and it's "he"

[faust]

Okay. For reasons I cannot disclose, I think it is likely that there are multiple scum in relatively high positions in the draft. Space being high up is interesting for reasons that I also cannot discuss. I might have to run some probabilities.

[faust]

Okay. I have to clarify something. In the meantime, vote: Space

[Qvist]

No one has answered me why claiming draft order is a good idea.

Vote: e

for claiming shortly after the day started while most even didn't have a chance to express if they are pro or contra that decision.

[ashersky]

I will bite.  vote: space

[Witherweaver]

So are all the people that haven't submitted their number opposed to the plan and not going to?

I don't think that is fair. If you think it will help you do it and if you don't then you don't. I currently still see a large upside for town. With all the side meta stuff I think that it is likely skum will gain knowledge of a lot of PRs regardless, but this system gives us a good way of determining who skum is down the road.

Either way imo it beats the crap out of the inevitable RVS talks of day 1.

This response doesn't make much sense to me.

[Witherweaver]

Anyway, I'm #4

[faust]

So still unclaimed are Qvist, ashersky, Jimmmmm, O. And the numbers they have are 3, 6, 11, 17.

[faust]

I'd think that the group above contains at most 2 mafiosi. That might be interesting POE at some point.

[Witherweaver]

Is this all based on the order numbers?

[faust]

Is this all based on the order numbers?

Nah, that's just based on I don't think all mafia players refuse to claim.

[Qvist]

I would claim if someone would explain to me why I should.

[O]

I would claim if someone would explain to me why I should.

[faust]

I would claim if someone would explain to me why I should.

The mighty mcRobzsalot has decreed that I cannot.

[Qvist]

*sigh*

[faust]

Someone already did a bit on how claiming now resticts the freedom that scum has for fakeclaims down the road. That's decent for us, but the main reason I want to do it is something else.

[Witherweaver]

I believe the correct updated list looks like:

#1 - Faust
#2 - Space
#3 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}
#4 - Witherweaver
#5 - Archetype
#6 - Jimmmmm
#7 - TWM
#8 - Galzria
#9 - Teproc
#10 - Gkrieg
#11 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}
#12 - 2.718
#13 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}
#14 - LaLight
#15 - DatSwan
#16 - Eevee
#17 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}

[Qvist]

Welp, I get a town read from faust, so I guess I trust him for now. I'm #11

[faust]

I believe the correct updated list looks like:

#1 - Faust
#2 - Space
#3 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}
#4 - Witherweaver
#5 - Archetype
#6 - Jimmmmm
#7 - TWM
#8 - Galzria
#9 - Teproc
#10 - Gkrieg
#11 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}
#12 - 2.718
#13 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}
#14 - LaLight
#15 - DatSwan
#16 - Eevee
#17 - {Qvist, ashersky, IDPTG, O}

I think Idplay claim #13 somewhere.

[Galzria]

I believe the correct updated list looks like:

#1 - Faust
#2 - Space
#3 - {ashersky, O}
#4 - Witherweaver
#5 - Archetype
#6 - Jimmmmm
#7 - TWM
#8 - Galzria
#9 - Teproc
#10 - Gkrieg
#11 - Qvist
#12 - 2.718
#13 - IDPTG
#14 - LaLight
#15 - DatSwan
#16 - Eevee
#17 - {ashersky, O}

Fixed

[SpaceAnemone]

Okay. For reasons I cannot disclose, I think it is likely that there are multiple scum in relatively high positions in the draft. Space being high up is interesting for reasons that I also cannot discuss. I might have to run some probabilities.

Argh, faust.. not good! You know I'm liable to scumread you when you don't make sense, and my position and role make perfect sense. You also know I'm perfectly capable of reasoning excessively about probabilities, and most people here who've played with me before in a setuppy game are well aware of it too. That makes it really interesting that you decide to push me anyway. Your behaviour doesn't give me the warmest of fuzzies about you or your motivations here :-(

Vote: faust

PPE 10+3

[Witherweaver]

Okay. For reasons I cannot disclose, I think it is likely that there are multiple scum in relatively high positions in the draft. Space being high up is interesting for reasons that I also cannot discuss. I might have to run some probabilities.

Argh, faust.. not good! You know I'm liable to scumread you when you don't make sense, and my position and role make perfect sense. You also know I'm perfectly capable of reasoning excessively about probabilities, and most people here who've played with me before in a setuppy game are well aware of it too. That makes it really interesting that you decide to push me anyway. Your behaviour doesn't give me the warmest of fuzzies about you or your motivations here :-(

Vote: faust

PPE 10+3

What do you mean, your position and role make perfect sense?

[Eevee]

I'm very interested to see what faust is driving at. He seems towny to me as well.

[O]

this doesn't feel like town v town to me TBH