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[jotheonah]

Bed Idea Mafia

Player list:

1. Awaclus
2. MiX
3. Shraeye
4. Galzria
5. WestCoastDidds
6. Jimmmmm
7. Glooble
8. mail-mi
9. raerae
10. DatSwan
11.
12.
13.
14.

Setup:

So since I found out that ADK's "Bastard Mafia" game is going to be a quasi-balanced thing that people are expected to take seriously, I decided to start my own bastard game that we could take a little less seriously.

It's called Bed Idea Mafia because it's based on an idea I came up with in bed the other night.

I can't tell you anything else about the setup, because it's a closed setup that probably only works as a closed setup. I do think it'll actually be fun, and not one of those har, har, everyone's town, this was only fun for the mod games. I think this will be fun for the players AND the mod. But it is definitely a weird, experimental bastard setup. Just not one with totally unfair BS posting restrictions or alignment changes.

Anyway, I think the ideal version has 12 players, but there's a way to run it with 10 or 11 or 13 or 14. Actually the 11-person version might be kind of funny.

Sample Role PM

The town faction in this game is called Town. This is a sample town Role PM:

You are a Vanilla Townie. You have no special powers. Your weapon is your vote. You win when all threats to the town are eliminated or no one can prevent the same.

Flavor

may or may not occur.

This game will start at a time that makes sense to everybody. So, if people are like "I want in, but can we wait until ADK's game is closer to over?" or whatever we'll just sort of go with the flow.

Rules

The standard rules of mafia apply, with the following specifics:

1: Days will be 7 days, nights will be 24 hours, action deadline is end of night.
2. Prods can be requested after 24 hours of inactivity.
3. If no majority is reached by deadline, the day will end without a lynch.
4. The mod color is purple.
5. The game can be silly, but please respect the basic integrity i.e. don't post when the thread is locked, post a QT link, talk about the game outside the game, etc, etc.

[Eevee]

in

[Awaclus]

in

[MiX]

/in

I have no idea what to expect.

[silverspawn]

/bed

[shraeye]

/in

I'll sleep through this, +1

[jotheonah]

/in

I'll sleep through this, +1

Good luck sleeping ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT.

[Galzria]

/bed

[jotheonah]

I’m assuming these beds are ins!

[WestCoastDidds]

In!

[Jimmmmm]

/in

[Glooble]

/in

[mail-mi]

do i have to take this seriously?

if not, /in

if so, I will not be taking this seriously. /in

[jotheonah]

Nah

[silverspawn]

I’m assuming these beds are ins!

/couch

[silverspawn]

(As in, nah. Not in my case, anyway.)

[raerae]

I love beds.

/In

[Galzria]

I’m assuming these beds are ins!

/couch

Sleeping on couches are bed for your health.

[Galzria]

/bed

/Futin

[Galzria]

/bed

/Futin

I’m assuming these beds are ins!

[silverspawn]

I’m assuming these beds are ins!

/couch

Sleeping on couches are bed for your health.

Also it's bed manners to put a fut on the couch.

[jotheonah]

Well we officially have enough to fire. What do people think? Hold out for a few more, wait a bit for the sake of staggering games, or dive right in?

[Eevee]

I'd rather wait a bit.

[WestCoastDidds]

Wait a bit, please.

[pubby]

I'd join but I'm waiting to die in the bad idea mafia first.

[Galzria]

I’m good to go whenever, because I plan on taking this REALLY laid back / non-serious.

[silverspawn]

I’m good to go whenever, because I plan on taking this REALLY laid back / non-serious.

That is the ultimate bed idea.

[Jimmmmm]

That is the ultimate bed idea.

These jokes are such a snooze-fest.

[jotheonah]

Ok friends, I think I'm going to launch this on Friday this week. How do people feel about that?

[MiX]

Ok friends, I think I'm going to launch this on Friday this week. How do people feel about that?

Looks good, if we don't get more people untill then we should fire before others have to leave anyway.

[Glooble]

Ok friends, I think I'm going to launch this on Friday this week. How do people feel about that?

Fine by me.

[jotheonah]

I have the PMs written for the 10-person version. Writing the others should be somewhat trivial I think.

[silverspawn]

Ok friends, I think I'm going to launch this on Friday this week. How do people feel about that?

I would have to sleep on that decision

[jotheonah]

Ok friends, I think I'm going to launch this on Friday this week. How do people feel about that?

I would have to sleep on that decision

You're not even playing!

[silverspawn]

I'm not? That must have slept my mind...

[shraeye]

I'm good whenever

[jotheonah]

I have the PMs written for the 10-person version. Writing the others should be somewhat trivial I think.

I now have also written PMs for 11, 12, 13, and 14-person modes.

[raerae]

I'm good whenever

Says who?

[WestCoastDidds]

Ready, freddy

[Awaclus]

Ok friends, I think I'm going to launch this on Friday this week. How do people feel about that?

As a wise person once said,

FUCKING GREAT!

[Eevee]

Unfortunately I got to /out, can’t take 3 games at once.

[jotheonah]

Unfortunately I got to /out, can’t take 3 games at once.

That's ok. We'll just wait until one of your game ends or you die.

[Eevee]

Unfortunately I got to /out, can’t take 3 games at once.

That's ok. We'll just wait until one of your game ends or you die.

Don't give them any ideas!

But thanks.

[Swowl]

If it is not too late

/in

[silverspawn]

If it is not too late

/in

[Galzria]

If it is not too late

/in

[jotheonah]

Eevee, I think I'm going to start this Friday as planned. Would love to have you, but understand if you want to stay /out.

/ins will lock in 24 hours.

[Eevee]

No worries, I’ll be available to sub in if the need arises.

[jotheonah]

THREAD LOCKED

Role PMs going out now. I know it's an hour earlier than I said. But you know, bastard mod.

Please confirm in your personal QT.

[jotheonah]

We're in Night Zero.

If you have any additional QTs beyond your personal one, you may post in them starting now. Day 1 will start mid-day Friday or whenever all confirmations are received.

[jotheonah]

All PMs should be out, by the way. So if you do not have a PM yet, please PM me. If you do have one, please confirm in your QT.

[jotheonah]

Townie McTownerson was a model citizen of the town of Town. He loved the town. In fact, living in the town and being townie were the most important and, in fact, only defining characteristics of his existence.

As he climbed into bed, Townie McTownerson reflected on his day. He had attended the town meeting and, seized with a sudden sense of towniness, hopped on stage, grabbed the mic, and delivered a stirring address about his love for the town.

His fellow townies had responded with stirring applause, of course. But he couldn’t help but feel like the applause wasn’t quite loud enough. He wondered if the crowd contained any members of the Scummy Anti-Town Mafia about which he had been hearing rumors.

“Nah,” he thought. “They’re just a myth. No one in this great town could secretly hate it and want to kill everyone in it.”

And with that, he turned off his light and went to sleep. Little did he know, he would never wake up.

Townie McTownerson has been killed. He was Town-aligned.

Vote Count 1.1

Not voting (10): Awaclus, MiX, shraeye, Galzria, WestCoastDidds, Jimmmmm, Glooble, mail-mi, raerae, DatSwan

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 begins now and ends Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

THREAD UNLOCKED

[Awaclus]

First!

[raerae]

Vote: shraeye

The predictability is reeeeaaaaalllllllll.

[MiX]

Okay that is a very small town.

Vote: Jimmmmmm

[WestCoastDidds]

What a minute....Townie McTownerson is what Joth calls me (see the sig!).

Vote: Joth

[raerae]

What a minute....Townie McTownerson is what Joth calls me (see the sig!).

Vote: Joth

Didds is a ghost!!

[WestCoastDidds]

Whooooooooooooooooooooooo

[mail-mi]

Whooooooooooooooooooooooo

Vote: didds for being a ghost

[Glooble]

vote: MiX

How could you know how bug or small the town is unless you know how many scum there are.

Because you're scum.

[WestCoastDidds]

Ooohhhh....Glooble being smart. I like it!

[WestCoastDidds]

Whooooooooooooooooooooooo

Vote: didds for being a ghost

I blame Joth. Vote Joth!

[mail-mi]

Whooooooooooooooooooooooo

Vote: didds for being a ghost

I blame Joth. Vote Joth!

Vote: Joth

[jotheonah]

If you lynch the mod, the game will end by default!

[mail-mi]

If you lynch the mod, the game will end by default!

Does that mean town will win?

[jotheonah]

Vote Count 1.2

joth (2): WestCoastDidds, mail-mi
shraeye (1): raerae
Jimmmmm (1): MiX
MiX (1): Glooble

Not voting (10): Awaclus, shraeye, Galzria, Jimmmmm, DatSwan

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 begins now and ends Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[jotheonah]

If you lynch the mod, the game will end by default!

Does that mean town will win?

No one's win conditions will be fulfilled, therefor everyone will lose.

[jotheonah]

Also, I'm hyper-loved so it takes 12 votes to lynch me.

[mail-mi]

If you lynch the mod, the game will end by default!

Does that mean town will win?

No one's win conditions will be fulfilled, therefor everyone will lose.

Tsk. Vote: e

[MiX]

vote: MiX

How could you know how bug or small the town is unless you know how many scum there are.

Because you're scum.

Or because I've never played in such a small game, but sure.

[Galzria]

vote: MiX

How could you know how bug or small the town is unless you know how many scum there are.

Because you're scum.

Vote: Glooble

This is the type of “slip” that scum like to jump on.

[Glooble]

vote: MiX

How could you know how bug or small the town is unless you know how many scum there are.

Because you're scum.

Vote: Glooble

This is the type of “slip” that scum like to jump on.

I was making a funny.

Anyway, vote: Jimmmmm cause I actually don't want to lynch MiX.

[WestCoastDidds]

Also, I'm hyper-loved so it takes 12 votes to lynch me.

Super duper hyper uber maximal loved!

[Awaclus]

vote: MiX cause I actually want to lynch MiX.

[WestCoastDidds]

Votes: Awa for first and then nothing

PPE...oh, there you are!

[jotheonah]

A murder!? In the town of Town? Unheard of! Well, nearly unheard of. Well, an uncommon occurrence. Well definitely the first one this week. If you don't count the three murders on Sunday down by the docks of course. And the suspicious suicide from Wednesday. What was I saying?

Vote Count 1.3

Jimmmmm (2): MiX, Glooble
shraeye (1): raerae
MiX (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (1): WestCoastDidds
Glooble (1): Galzria
e (who is not in this game) (1): mail-mi

Not voting (3): shraeye, Jimmmmm, DatSwan

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[mail-mi]

Come on everyone! let's lynch e

[MiX]

Come on everyone! let's lynch e

I would, but that implies unvoting Jimmmmm...

I can do Vote: e if you want?

[Galzria]

Come on everyone! let's lynch e

I would, but that implies unvoting Jimmmmm...

I can do Vote: e if you want?

Vote: MiX

Opportunistic voting is the best voting. Plus wagons. Plus italicized voting is bad. Plus he’s scum. That’s like, 4 things!

[MiX]

Come on everyone! let's lynch e

I would, but that implies unvoting Jimmmmm...

I can do Vote: e if you want?

Vote: MiX

Opportunistic voting is the best voting. Plus wagons. Plus italicized voting is bad. Plus he’s scum. That’s like, 4 things!

That's a lot of things.

Let's get things kicking with

Vote: Awaclus

I literally can't remember the last time he's voted scum so I don't want him in the game laying as low as he usually does.

[Galzria]

Come on everyone! let's lynch e

I would, but that implies unvoting Jimmmmm...

I can do Vote: e if you want?

Vote: Awaclus

Opportunistic voting is the best voting. Plus wagons. Plus italicized voting is bad. Plus he’s scum. That’s like, 4 things!

That's a lot of things.

Let's get things kicking with

Vote: Awaclus

I literally can't remember the last time he's voted scum so I don't want him in the game laying as low as he usually does.

Oh, you have fewer votes than I thought.

Hmm.

EBWOP.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: MiX

[WestCoastDidds]

Hey ya’ll-

I’m going to be pretty scarce this weekend. Mostly just first thing in the morning and then right before bed available. We’re going to Waco for the weekend. Thoughts and prayers...

I’m always down for a MiX lynch. Dude is always scummy to me, but as a result, I don’t trust my sense of him.

[Swowl]

Vote: Galz bc he broke my dinner plate!

[Galzria]

Vote: Galz bc he broke my dinner plate!

Vote: Raptor for breaking Swan’s dinner plate.

[WestCoastDidds]

Do you just have one plate??

[raerae]

Do you just have one plate??

Gotta get those plastic dollar store ones, guys. Pretty sure they come in a six pack.

[WestCoastDidds]

I have this Charlie Bucket scenario in mind with just one plate, one spoon, one fork, one knife. Except I’ve seen Galz’s liquor cabinet, so no.

[Swowl]

Do you just have one plate??

I normally eat off of bounty paper towels. I only bust out the fine ikea for special occasions.

[raerae]

I have this Charlie Bucket scenario in mind with just one plate, one spoon, one fork, one knife. Except I’ve seen Galz’s liquor cabinet, so no.

Spent all the dollars on the booze, nothing left for food accessories.

[raerae]

Do you just have one plate??

I normally eat off of bounty paper towels. I only bust out the fine ikea for special occasions.

Well, now we need to know the special occasion.

[Swowl]

Do you just have one plate??

I normally eat off of bounty paper towels. I only bust out the fine ikea for special occasions.

Well, now we need to know the special occasion.

THERE WAS NO SPECIAL OCCASION! That is why he gets the vote! He was making a freeking microwavable chicken pot pie... on my finest Ikea-ware!

[WestCoastDidds]

Oh, chicken pot pie is a solid choice! But I am not sure that the microwave was the best place to heat it. Don’t you need to oven to make the crust awesome? (Answer, yes, you need the oven to make the crust awesome.)

Swan says it was Galz, Galz says it was Raptor. Why is Galz passing the buck?!?

Also, solid +1 to Swan for name-brand paper towels.
 
And +1 to raerae for knowing the spending all the money on liquor can lead to difficult choices elsewhere in the home.

[MiX]

Gotta love talking about...whatever it is you guys are talking about.

Back to

Vote: Jimmmmm because OMGUS. That and Awaclus is scum which means the wagon won't pick up. Yet.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus is not scum.

[raerae]

Awaclus is not scum.

And who made you the expert on the subject???

[Awaclus]

Awaclus is not scum.

And who made you the expert on the subject???

Joth did.

[raerae]

Awaclus is not scum.

And who made you the expert on the subject???

Joth did.

That guy really needs to mind his own.

[mail-mi]

Awaclus is not scum.

Oh, that’s good.

[WestCoastDidds]

This is our non-serious game, MiX. What levity can you bring to the party??

[MiX]

This is our non-serious game, MiX. What levity can you bring to the party??

Nothing, I can only play non-seriously in drunk mafia. Sorry.

[Glooble]

Awaclus is not scum.

Theory: Awaclus and Awaclus are Masons.

[WestCoastDidds]

This is our non-serious game, MiX. What levity can you bring to the party??

Nothing, I can only play non-seriously in drunk mafia. Sorry.

Then it’s time to start drinking!

[Awaclus]

Awaclus is not scum.

Theory: Awaclus and Awaclus are Masons.

This is true.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus is not scum.

Theory: Awaclus and Awaclus are Masons.

This is true.

I can confirm this.

[jotheonah]

Today's town meeting was much more exciting than yesterday's.

"Townie McTownerson is dead, and someone must pay!" exclaimed mail-mi. "We have to lynch e!"

"No, we must lynch Raptor!" shouted Galzria

"They don't even live here!" the town shouted as one.

Vote Count 1.4

MiX (2): Awaclus,  Jimmmmm
Awaclus (2): WestCoastDidds, MiX
Jimmmmm (1): Glooble
shraeye (1): raerae
Galzria (1): DatSwan
e (who is not in this game) (1): mail-mi
Raptor (who is not in this game) (1): Galzria

Not voting (1): shraeye

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[mail-mi]

"They don't even live here!" the town shouted as one.

Lynch the outsiders! Our town of Town is too perfect, no one here could possibly have done something so bad!

[Awaclus]

Vote: e (who is not in this game)

[raerae]

This is our non-serious game, MiX. What levity can you bring to the party??

Nothing, I can only play non-seriously in drunk mafia. Sorry.

May I suggest a shot or seven?

[mail-mi]

Vote: e (who is not in this game)

#LLE (let's lynch e)

[Galzria]

Oh, chicken pot pie is a solid choice! But I am not sure that the microwave was the best place to heat it. Don’t you need to oven to make the crust awesome? (Answer, yes, you need the oven to make the crust awesome.)

Swan says it was Galz, Galz says it was Raptor. Why is Galz passing the buck?!?

Also, solid +1 to Swan for name-brand paper towels.
 
And +1 to raerae for knowing the spending all the money on liquor can lead to difficult choices elsewhere in the home.

I couldn’t use the oven, because it was already in use making Angostura Sweet & Spicy mixed bar nuts.

And Raptor is definitely to blame. Raptor is the very reason why we can’t have nice things.

[Awaclus]

Oh, chicken pot pie is a solid choice! But I am not sure that the microwave was the best place to heat it. Don’t you need to oven to make the crust awesome? (Answer, yes, you need the oven to make the crust awesome.)

Swan says it was Galz, Galz says it was Raptor. Why is Galz passing the buck?!?

Also, solid +1 to Swan for name-brand paper towels.
 
And +1 to raerae for knowing the spending all the money on liquor can lead to difficult choices elsewhere in the home.

I couldn’t use the oven, because it was already in use making Angostura Sweet & Spicy mixed bar nuts.

And Raptor is definitely to blame. Raptor is the very reason why we can’t have nice things.

e (who is not in this game) is the very reason why e (who is not in this game) is not in this game. We should lynch e (who is not in this game).

[WestCoastDidds]

Deez angostura nuts are an interesting new element to the take. Is Raptor a roomate or does he swoop in and wreck sh*t? If so, that’s just like having a kid!

Awaclus, if your mason QT does Awaclus say cryptic things like “are you scum? and then nothing else? Or has he been more forthcoming. Do you think he’s town?

Vote: Silver for the bed jokes but, not getting into bed with us.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus, if your mason QT does Awaclus say cryptic things like “are you scum? and then nothing else? Or has he been more forthcoming. Do you think he’s town?

We are masons, not neighbors, which means that both me and Awaclus are confirmed to be town.

[Xxraptorslayer96]

Vote: Galz bc he broke my dinner plate!

Vote: Raptor for breaking Swan’s dinner plate.

Vote: Galz He is just acting nonsensical at this point in time. Him and I both know Swan doesn't allow me to touch his plates.

[Xxraptorslayer96]

Is Raptor a roomate or does he swoop in and wreck sh*t?

Well.. I do not live with either of them so..

[Xxraptorslayer96]

I forgot to mention that your Town has been invaded by a friendly.. I'm the evading friendly  

[jotheonah]

i feel compelled to mention that despite evidence to the contrary, Raptor is not in this game.

[Swowl]

Well this explains why my bounty paper towels were replaced with stadium napkins!

Vote:Raptor

[WestCoastDidds]

i feel compelled to mention that despite evidence to the contrary, Raptor is not in this game.

Unless he has a sweet cop result that allows us to lynch MiX

[WestCoastDidds]

I just watched a move about race cars. Now I think I can drive a race car. I cannot.

[shraeye]

I have this Charlie Bucket scenario in mind with just one plate, one spoon, one fork, one knife. Except I’ve seen Galz’s liquor cabinet, so no.

It's too much liquor, not enough room for plates

[shraeye]

I solemnly promise to vote with whoever gives me the worst reason to do it.

[Awaclus]

I solemnly promise to vote with whoever gives me the worst reason to do it.

Vote: shraeye

What isn't the worst reason to vote for you?

[shraeye]

" it will be fun" is not the worst reason to vote for me

[Xxraptorslayer96]

I solemnly promise to vote with whoever gives me the worst reason to do it.

Vote Galz with me, I have zero reason to lie... or tell the truth.

[Swowl]

vote: Galz

[Awaclus]

I solemnly promise to vote with whoever gives me the worst reason to do it.

Vote Galz with me, I have zero reason to lie... or tell the truth.

...or be in this game.

[Swowl]

I solemnly promise to vote with whoever gives me the worst reason to do it.

Vote Galz with me, I have zero reason to lie... or tell the truth.

...or be in this game.

Fair.

Which mason should we vote for?

[Xxraptorslayer96]

I solemnly promise to vote with whoever gives me the worst reason to do it.

Vote Galz with me, I have zero reason to lie... or tell the truth.

...or be in this game.

You don’t know my life

[Swowl]

I just watched a move about race cars. Now I think I can drive a race car. I cannot.

If it was ford bs ferarri... do not try to do race things and then tell the police man you were driving for “Mercia”... it.... does not work out.

[MiX]

i feel compelled to mention that despite evidence to the contrary, Raptor is not in this game.

Unless he has a sweet cop result that allows us to lynch MiX

Too soon...Vote: Raptor (who is not in this game)

I forgot to mention that your Town has been invaded by a friendly.. I'm the evading friendly

Can you grab a bed and join us? I want revenge for what you did to me!

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: mail-mi because he very definitely, I think, said he was non serious playing but he has contributed very little to the general banter. As a young whippersnapper, I figure he should have all kinds of sass!

I’m looking forward to hearing a raptors cop results.

Debatepro just told me about a book about a man and a donkey that he was abused that he rehabilitated and then they run in a human + donkey race together. Donkeys are my all time favorite barnyard animal so I’m pretty excited. I figure that after I read that I’ll need a donkey and some running shoes. Cool thing about donkeys is that they are happiest when they work to do. they also get along with all of the other barnyard animals.

[WestCoastDidds]

i feel compelled to mention that despite evidence to the contrary, Raptor is not in this game.

Unless he has a sweet cop result that allows us to lynch MiX

Too soon...Vote: Raptor (who is not in this game)

Sorry, pumpkin. Didn’t mean to open the wound.

[mail-mi]

Vote: mail-mi because he very definitely, I think, said he was non serious playing but he has contributed very little to the general banter. As a young whippersnapper, I figure he should have all kinds of sass!

I’m looking forward to hearing a raptors cop results.

Debatepro just told me about a book about a man and a donkey that he was abused that he rehabilitated and then they run in a human + donkey race together. Donkeys are my all time favorite barnyard animal so I’m pretty excited. I figure that after I read that I’ll need a donkey and some running shoes. Cool thing about donkeys is that they are happiest when they work to do. they also get along with all of the other barnyard animals.

Does that mean you'll be riding a donkey inside a car you're racing?

[Glooble]

I’ll join a mail-mi wagon.

Players who are not in the game can not be scum, therefore the e wagon has a 0% chance of hitting scum.

vote: mail-mi

[Awaclus]

I’ll join a mail-mi wagon.

Players who are not in the game can not be scum, therefore the e wagon has a 0% chance of hitting scum.

vote: mail-mi

For some reason, I thought this post was by mail-mi at first. Vote: mail-mi

[raerae]

Vote: mail-mi because he very definitely, I think, said he was non serious playing but he has contributed very little to the general banter. As a young whippersnapper, I figure he should have all kinds of sass!

I’m looking forward to hearing a raptors cop results.

Debatepro just told me about a book about a man and a donkey that he was abused that he rehabilitated and then they run in a human + donkey race together. Donkeys are my all time favorite barnyard animal so I’m pretty excited. I figure that after I read that I’ll need a donkey and some running shoes. Cool thing about donkeys is that they are happiest when they work to do. they also get along with all of the other barnyard animals.

Wonky Donkey is the favorite donkey related book in this house. 10/10 would recommend with a side of bedtime.

[Galzria]

Vote: mail-mi because he very definitely, I think, said he was non serious playing but he has contributed very little to the general banter. As a young whippersnapper, I figure he should have all kinds of sass!

I’m looking forward to hearing a raptors cop results.

Debatepro just told me about a book about a man and a donkey that he was abused that he rehabilitated and then they run in a human + donkey race together. Donkeys are my all time favorite barnyard animal so I’m pretty excited. I figure that after I read that I’ll need a donkey and some running shoes. Cool thing about donkeys is that they are happiest when they work to do. they also get along with all of the other barnyard animals.

I’ve ridden a Donkey. Never a horse...

[Galzria]

I’ll join a mail-mi wagon.

Players who are not in the game can not be scum, therefore the e wagon has a 0% chance of hitting scum.

vote: mail-mi

For some reason, I thought this post was by mail-mi at first. Vote: mail-mi

I like wagons.vote: mail-mi

[MiX]

Is that...L-2? Yes, it is. Looking at the previous vote count:

Vote Count 1.4

MiX (2): Awaclus,  Jimmmmm
Awaclus (2): WestCoastDidds, MiX
Jimmmmm (1): Glooble
shraeye (1): raerae
Galzria (1): DatSwan
e (who is not in this game) (1): mail-mi
Raptor (who is not in this game) (1): Galzria

Not voting (1): shraeye

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

Oh my there's no wagons so this can't be a derail, I like it.

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

[WestCoastDidds]

There is this super cutie donkey stuffie that is my favorite baby gift. E can attest that it is adorbs. Shrarae will get one this spring, but it could be that H-bomb needs one, too.

If any of the rest of you mofos decides to have a baby, let me know and you’ll get a donkey, too!!

I have never ridden an elephant.

Family is now heading to a Taylor Swift escape room. Heaven help us all.

[Glooble]

Family is now heading to a Taylor Swift escape room. Heaven help us all.

You know that will be trouble when you walk in.

[jotheonah]

"That shifty mail-mi is trying to shift the blame to outsiders! He must have something to hide!"

Vote Count 1.5

mail-mi (4): WestCoastDidds, Glooble, Awaclus, Galzria (L-2)
Galzria (2): DatSwan, MiX
MiX (1): Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): raerae
e (who is not in this game) (1): mail-mi

Not voting (1): shraeye

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[Awaclus]

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

Fake news, he said "I like wagons.".

[Galzria]

Family is now heading to a Taylor Swift escape room. Heaven help us all.

You know that will be trouble when you walk in.

Pfft. Call it what you want, but Don’t blame me. With these things you gotta be Fearless, Forever and always.


... Damnit Glooble. Look what you made me do.

[Galzria]

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

Fake news, he said "I like wagons.".

Awaclus and his Mason self are good people.

[MiX]

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

Fake news, he said "I like wagons.".

He didn't say "anything" now did he?

[WestCoastDidds]

Family is now heading to a Taylor Swift escape room. Heaven help us all.

You know that will be trouble when you walk in.

I’m glad that they don’t try to step on our gowns, cause we all have crowns!

[Awaclus]

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

Fake news, he said "I like wagons.".

He didn't say "anything" now did he?

He sort of did, by quoting me quoting you.

[mail-mi]

Wait hold on, I like wagons as long as they're not on me!!

vote: galz

[shraeye]

I’ll join a mail-mi wagon.

Players who are not in the game can not be scum, therefore the e wagon has a 0% chance of hitting scum.

vote: mail-mi

Only if it's pulled by Didd's donkey

[shraeye]

Family is now heading to a Taylor Swift escape room. Heaven help us all.

You know that will be trouble when you walk in.

Glooble earns a day1 pass.

[shraeye]

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

Fake news, he said "I like wagons.".

He didn't say "anything" now did he?

He sort of did, by quoting me quoting you.

Sweeeet Caroline

[Swowl]

Vote: Galzria for L-2ing without saying anything.

Fake news, he said "I like wagons.".

He didn't say "anything" now did he?

He sort of did, by quoting me quoting you.

Sweeeet Caroline

Ahh ahh ahh. So good good!

[Swowl]

What happens if we lynch e?

[Galzria]

What happens if we lynch e?

You would like to know, wouldn’t you.

[Swowl]

What happens if we lynch e?

You would like to know, wouldn’t you.

Well i mean if we lynch Joth everyone loses so like... yeah i guess i wanna know

[Awaclus]

It would be funny if joth sent him the speccy.

[jotheonah]

If you lynch players who are not in the game, the day will not end. The lynched player would continue to not be in the game, but would now no longer be allowed to post in the thread.

[sudgy]

If you lynch players who are not in the game, the day will not end. The lynched player would continue to not be in the game, but would now no longer be allowed to post in the thread.

Wait, we can post in this game?

[MiX]

Vote: sudgy

[jotheonah]

If you lynch players who are not in the game, the day will not end. The lynched player would continue to not be in the game, but would now no longer be allowed to post in the thread.

Wait, we can post in this game?

For now, but I reserve the right to mass modkill everyone who isn't in the game if this silliness keeps up.

[MiX]

If you lynch players who are not in the game, the day will not end. The lynched player would continue to not be in the game, but would now no longer be allowed to post in the thread.

Wait, we can post in this game?

For now, but I reserve the right to mass modkill everyone who isn't in the game if this silliness keeps up.

Oh ok back to Vote: Galzria then.

[Glooble]

What’s the Galzria case again? There’s too much silliness for me to go find it.

[MiX]

What’s the Galzria case again? There’s too much silliness for me to go find it.

Put mail-me in L-2...uh...that's it. Do you have a better case? I don't.

[Glooble]

I actually think mail-mi is kinda scummy. Yes it’s a silly game, so silliness isn’t itself scummy, but silliness that allows you to look like you’re playing while derailing everyone else from scum hunting and keeps you from having to take a stand on an actual player who will eventually flip- that’s the scummy kind of silliness.

[Joseph2302]

If you lynch players who are not in the game, the day will not end. The lynched player would continue to not be in the game, but would now no longer be allowed to post in the thread.

Wait, we can post in this game?

For now, but I reserve the right to mass modkill everyone who isn't in the game if this silliness keeps up.

Vote: joth

[jotheonah]

bzzt...flavor not found...bzzzt

Vote Count 1.6

mail-mi (4): WestCoastDidds, Glooble, Awaclus, Galzria (L-2)
Galzria (3): DatSwan, MiX, mail-mi (L-3)
MiX (1): Jimmmmm (L-5)
shraeye (1): raerae (L-5)

Not voting (1): shraeye

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[MiX]

Dang that's L-2. I don't want the day to end yet Glooble. I'll reread mail-me and see if I find that.

[mail-mi]

I actually think mail-mi is kinda scummy. Yes it’s a silly game, so silliness isn’t itself scummy, but silliness that allows you to look like you’re playing while derailing everyone else from scum hunting and keeps you from having to take a stand on an actual player who will eventually flip- that’s the scummy kind of silliness.

Also no one else has done any scumhunting either (I'm pretty sure this is the first scumhunting post) so you should vote the entire Town for this reason.

[Awaclus]

What’s the Galzria case again? There’s too much silliness for me to go find it.

What isn't the Galzria case again? Are you his scum partner?

[shraeye]

What’s the Galzria case again? There’s too much silliness for me to go find it.

Was it that he wasn't being silly enough?

[shraeye]

Vote: glooble

That mailmi reasoning applies to at least 4/3s of the players here, why single mailmi out?

[mail-mi]

Vote: glooble

That mailmi reasoning applies to at least 4/3s of the players here, why single mailmi out?

Thank you.

Also, omgus, ,vote: glooble

[WestCoastDidds]

If you lynch players who are not in the game, the day will not end. The lynched player would continue to not be in the game, but would now no longer be allowed to post in the thread.

That seems a fair and reasonable rule

[WestCoastDidds]

I had real reasons fo my vote. I’m voting for mail-mi for a lack of silliness. One, he said he would be non-serious but hasn’t really been, and two, I think scum has more of an investment in playing under the radar and not playing our reindeer games allows him to do that.

Joth, an open bed policy has brought so many nonplayers to your game! It’s very promiscuous of you! And bastard, indeed.

[Jimmmmm]

Hang on... is mail-mi too silly or not silly enough?

[Awaclus]

Hang on... is mail-mi too silly or not silly enough?

Yes.

[Glooble]

He’s silly but only in a scummy way.

I’d much rather he be scummy in a silly way.

[Glooble]

Vote: glooble

That mailmi reasoning applies to at least 4/3s of the players here, why single mailmi out?

Why not single mail-mi out?

[raerae]

Vote: glooble

That mailmi reasoning applies to at least 4/3s of the players here, why single mailmi out?

Why not single mail-mi out?

Clearly he's scum and standing up for his scum buddy.

Continue voting: shraeye

[WestCoastDidds]

Why shraeye?

[Awaclus]

Why shraeye?

Why not vote: shraeye?

[raerae]

Why shraeye?

Meh, haven't lunched him a little bit.

[WestCoastDidds]

Awa, did Awaclus agree with your assessment?

[mail-mi]

I had real reasons fo my vote. I’m voting for mail-mi for a lack of silliness. One, he said he would be non-serious but hasn’t really been, and two, I think scum has more of an investment in playing under the radar and not playing our reindeer games allows him to do that.

Joth, an open bed policy has brought so many nonplayers to your game! It’s very promiscuous of you! And bastard, indeed.

I'm an observer most of the time, and I have been enjoying the silliness from my computer screen.

[mail-mi]

Vote: glooble

That mailmi reasoning applies to at least 4/3s of the players here, why single mailmi out?

Why not single mail-mi out?

Why not not single mail-mi out?

[Swowl]

Awa, did Awaclus agree with your assessment?

careful... he is not allowed to quote from his QTs.

[Swowl]

also - I can not express enough to you all how much that plate meant to me... so it pains me to move, but I suppose I can

Vote:mail-mi

for now.

[Awaclus]

Awa, did Awaclus agree with your assessment?

Yes.

[MiX]

Interesting, the Galzria wagon only has me and mail-mi, and mail-mi's on a fast track to getting lynched today. Isn't that where a scum wagon would be in a game as silly as this?

That's my Galzria case. The mail-mi case isn't really a case, in fact it's just saying that mail-mi is mail-mi, which, come on, we all know that, right?

also - I can not express enough to you all how much that plate meant to me... so it pains me to move, but I suppose I can

Vote:mail-mi

for now.

Why? I probably look scummy if mail-mi flips scum, but why did you vote here?

[jotheonah]

"We will now take a short break from this rapidly forming lynchmob for a presentation from Town's preeminent scientific mind, Dr. Townington."

"Thank you, thank you. As many of you know, I have been studying for some years the peculiar astronomical qualities of our fair town. Whereas most places in the world days last about 16 hours and nights last about 8 hours, here in town days seem to last approximately 168 hours and nights last a full 24, or even longer if the mod is lazy. It is truly a bizarre phenomenon, but also a bit of a gift horse since  night is when all of the grizzly murders seem to happen."

Vote Count 1.7

mail-mi (4): WestCoastDidds, Glooble, Galzria, DatSwan (L-2)
shraeye (2): raerae, Awaclus
Glooble (2): shraeye, mail-mi
Galzria (1): MiX
MiX (1): Jimmmmm

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[Swowl]

Interesting, the Galzria wagon only has me and mail-mi, and mail-mi's on a fast track to getting lynched today. Isn't that where a scum wagon would be in a game as silly as this?

That's my Galzria case. The mail-mi case isn't really a case, in fact it's just saying that mail-mi is mail-mi, which, come on, we all know that, right?

also - I can not express enough to you all how much that plate meant to me... so it pains me to move, but I suppose I can

Vote:mail-mi

for now.

Why? I probably look scummy if mail-mi flips scum, but why did you vote here?

Honestly, don't have anywhere near a good reason. I could vote essentially anywhere in this game at this point. The only reason I considered was that I find making equal size wagons day 1 normally benefits skum if they maneuver well. So I went with the largest wagon.

[MiX]

Meh reason from Swan. Who is he defending?

Vote: Glooble?

[shraeye]

I'm on board

vote: glooble

[Jimmmmm]

I'm on board

vote: glooble

This is a dodgy fake sheep. Vote: shraeye

[raerae]

Meh reason from Swan. Who is he defending?

Vote: Glooble?

I like Swowl's reason.

Vote: MiX

[Glooble]

Vote: MiX for reasons I don't want to tell you about but which are definitely not OMGUS.

[raerae]

Vote: MiX for reasons I don't want to tell you about but which are definitely not OMGUS.

So mysterious!

[WestCoastDidds]

That is mysterious! Glooble, is this a mystery worth running down?

[jotheonah]

"Alright, thank you Dr. Townington. Now I want to turn to our town ethicist, Tony Townsend, to weigh in on whether or not it's morally permissible for us to lynch someone by majority vote with no trial because we think they might be part of the scummy anti-town mafia."

"Well, surely murder is wrong and there is such a thing as the tyranny of the majority and we could just as well lock them up in the town jail, but on the other hand democracy is a great moral value, and there's a moral value to tradition and the way we've always done things in this town, and we've got the noose all set up and it would be a shame to let it go to waste, plus I don't like most of you personally, so I say let's go for it."

Vote Count 1.8

mail-mi (3): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, MiX
shraeye (2): Awaclus, Jimmmm
MiX (2): raerae, Glooble

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[Glooble]

That is mysterious! Glooble, is this a mystery worth running down?

I imagine it will become clear after a few flips.

[mail-mi]

That is mysterious! Glooble, is this a mystery worth running down?

I imagine it will become clear after a few flips.

Flips like your own, when we reveal you're part of the scummy anti-town mafia?

[WestCoastDidds]

Mailmi, why do think Glooble is being scummy? How do you feel about MiX?

[jotheonah]

By the way, if anyone not in this game wants a speccy link, HMU. Speccy will be spoiler-free.

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote Count 1.8

mail-mi (3): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, MiX
shraeye (2): Awaclus, Jimmmm
MiX (2): raerae, Glooble

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

Sheesh...that’s an ugly vote count! One of ‘em has to be scum, right?

[MiX]

Vote Count 1.8

mail-mi (3): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, MiX
shraeye (2): Awaclus, Jimmmm
MiX (2): raerae, Glooble

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

Sheesh...that’s an ugly vote count! One of ‘em has to be scum, right?

Who's 'em?

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote Count 1.8

mail-mi (3): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, MiX
shraeye (2): Awaclus, Jimmmm
MiX (2): raerae, Glooble

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

Sheesh...that’s an ugly vote count! One of ‘em has to be scum, right?

Who's 'em?

It seems like maybe you!

[WestCoastDidds]

(‘Em is just southern shorthand for “them”)

[mail-mi]

Mailmi, why do think Glooble is being scummy? How do you feel about MiX?

MiX seems like MiX so he's null 

I'm voting glooble cause he has contradictory reasons for his vote on me. Also omgus.

[MiX]

(‘Em is just southern shorthand for “them”)

Yes and who is them?

[Glooble]

Mailmi, why do think Glooble is being scummy? How do you feel about MiX?

MiX seems like MiX so he's null 

I'm voting glooble cause he has contradictory reasons for his vote on me. Also omgus.

They're not contradictory.

[WestCoastDidds]

(‘Em is just southern shorthand for “them”)

Yes and who is them?

The people among who the votes are spread

[Awaclus]

Vote: Glooble

[mail-mi]

Vote: Glooble

Awaclus is a Mason with Awaclus, so this counts as 2 votes right?

[WestCoastDidds]

If so, then it’s L-1!

[Jimmmmm]

If so, then it’s L-1!

Let's test that theory.

Vote: Glooble

[MiX]

If so, then it’s L-1!

Let's test that theory.

Vote: Glooble

This gave me a chill...

How about Vote: shraeye before quickhammer?

[Jimmmmm]

If so, then it’s L-1!

Let's test that theory.

Vote: Glooble

This gave me a chill...

How about Vote: shraeye before quickhammer?

What kind of chill?

[raerae]

If so, then it’s L-1!

Let's test that theory.

Vote: Glooble

This gave me a chill...

How about Vote: shraeye before quickhammer?

What kind of chill?

Last ditch save your partner sort of chill, no doubt.

Vote: Glooble

[shraeye]

If so, then it’s L-1!

Let's test that theory.

Vote: Glooble

This gave me a chill...

How about Vote: shraeye before quickhammer?

That is a scummy scummy vote, y'all. Take note

[shraeye]

If mix and glooble ain't sitting in a tree, then I don't know much about rhyming

[WestCoastDidds]

So, Glooble is at L-1 and MiX is his buddy?

[raerae]

So, Glooble is at L-1 and MiX is his buddy?

Appears that way.

[Glooble]

If mix and glooble ain't sitting in a tree, then I don't know much about rhyming

It’s not the tree you think it is.

[Glooble]

I guess I should claim. I’m a town neighbor. MiX is in the neighborhood with me, along with another player who I see no reason to out at this time. My mysterious reason was something MiX said in the neighborhood which made his DatSwan vote seem scummy to me.

[raerae]

Well, that's certainly something. Will you tell us what he said?

[Glooble]

Well, that's certainly something. Will you tell us what he said?

I don’t know how to do that without outing the third neighbor, which gives a lot of POE information to scum, so I don’t really want to.

[mail-mi]

Well, that's certainly something. Will you tell us what he said?

I don’t know how to do that without outing the third neighbor, which gives a lot of POE information to scum, so I don’t really want to.

But neighbor != town, so how much Poe info are you actually giving to scum?

[shraeye]

I guess I should claim. I’m a town neighbor. MiX is in the neighborhood with me, along with another player who I see no reason to out at this time. My mysterious reason was something MiX said in the neighborhood which made his DatSwan vote seem scummy to me.

What DatSwan vote?

[Glooble]

Well, that's certainly something. Will you tell us what he said?

I don’t know how to do that without outing the third neighbor, which gives a lot of POE information to scum, so I don’t really want to.

But neighbor != town, so how much Poe info are you actually giving to scum?

If there’s a scum neighbor, the scum team already knows everyone in the neighborhood obviously. But if we’re all town, I don’t want to narrow down the options of possible power roles and help the scum team direct their nightkill.

[Glooble]

I guess I should claim. I’m a town neighbor. MiX is in the neighborhood with me, along with another player who I see no reason to out at this time. My mysterious reason was something MiX said in the neighborhood which made his DatSwan vote seem scummy to me.

What DatSwan vote?

Sorry I misremembered. It was MiX saying DatSwan’s reasoning was meh, then voting for me.

[Glooble]

I have to go to bed now. We do have a day still, so I guess I’d rather not get lynched while I’m asleep. I think most of the “hammer first and ask questions never” folk are either not in this game or already voting for me though.

[raerae]

Unvote

I'll be around tomorrow for a bit.

[Awaclus]

Vote: mail-mi

[Awaclus]

What kind of chill?

[mail-mi]

Vote: mail-mi

Noooooo

[MiX]

I guess I should claim. I’m a town neighbor. MiX is in the neighborhood with me, along with another player who I see no reason to out at this time. My mysterious reason was something MiX said in the neighborhood which made his DatSwan vote seem scummy to me.

Sigh, I was having so much fun with it being secret! Now I'm sad...

Vote: mail-mi

Noooooo

See, I don't want either mail-mi nor Glooble to be lynched today.

What kind of chill?

That does give me Chills...honestly it's the burst kind that unit usually does that I was feeling when Glooble was at L-1, so it's very accurate. +Awaclus points.

[Glooble]

I’m going back to vote: mail-mi I think.

[MiX]

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): MiX
Not voting (1): raerae

Shraeye is scum lol. Glooble, gimme a boost.

[raerae]

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): MiX
Not voting (1): raerae

Shraeye is scum lol. Glooble, gimme a boost.

Because...?

[MiX]

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): MiX
Not voting (1): raerae

Shraeye is scum lol. Glooble, gimme a boost.

Because...?

Remember when there was a wagon on him? Now there's no wagon. It died. This means one of two things: either shraeye is scum, or both mail-mi and Glooble are town. So overall shraeye is the best vote.

[mail-mi]

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): MiX
Not voting (1): raerae

Shraeye is scum lol. Glooble, gimme a boost.

Because...?

Remember when there was a wagon on him? Now there's no wagon. It died. This means one of two things: either shraeye is scum, or both mail-mi and Glooble are town. So overall shraeye is the best vote.

I can get down with that vote: shraeye

[WestCoastDidds]

Happy Thanksgiving!!

I am grateful for all of you showing up and playing games. You’re awesome.

[MiX]

Happy Thanksgiving!!

I am grateful for all of you showing up and playing games. You’re awesome.

Sometimes I wonder if Didds is playing mafia, or using it as an excuse to talk to people...to this day I don't know the answer, and I don't think I ever will. It's probably both, really.

[raerae]

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): MiX
Not voting (1): raerae

Shraeye is scum lol. Glooble, gimme a boost.

Because...?

Remember when there was a wagon on him? Now there's no wagon. It died. This means one of two things: either shraeye is scum, or both mail-mi and Glooble are town. So overall shraeye is the best vote.

He maxed out at two votes. You're really going to call that a wagon?

[raerae]

Happy Thanksgiving!!

I am grateful for all of you showing up and playing games. You’re awesome.

Sometimes I wonder if Didds is playing mafia, or using it as an excuse to talk to people...to this day I don't know the answer, and I don't think I ever will. It's probably both, really.

Yeah, how dare she enjoy the company of others!

[MiX]

Happy Thanksgiving!!

I am grateful for all of you showing up and playing games. You’re awesome.

Sometimes I wonder if Didds is playing mafia, or using it as an excuse to talk to people...to this day I don't know the answer, and I don't think I ever will. It's probably both, really.

Yeah, how dare she enjoy the company of others!

God dammit raerae I say something and you pounce on it, what's wrong with you? Geez.

[jotheonah]

Alright kids, settle down. We’re getting close to civility pledge territory. Save that for your family Thanksgiving tables.

[MiX]

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi, Jimmmmm
shraeye (1): MiX
Not voting (1): raerae

Shraeye is scum lol. Glooble, gimme a boost.

Because...?

Remember when there was a wagon on him? Now there's no wagon. It died. This means one of two things: either shraeye is scum, or both mail-mi and Glooble are town. So overall shraeye is the best vote.

He maxed out at two votes. You're really going to call that a wagon?

Yes? That's L-4, a considerable amount, more so than anyone...other than Galzria I think? Galzria had more meme votes I think, or maybe I counted raptor's, so I treated shraeye's as a bigger wagon.

Alright kids, settle down. We’re getting close to civility pledge territory. Save that for your family Thanksgiving tables.

I mean...I wanted a player to answer that for reads. But okaaaaay...

Immediate actions help othets read me, and that's what I did. Nothing personal.

[shraeye]

Ok, so moving on, why do two votes count as a wagon again?

[raerae]

Progression of shraeye's "wagon" is as follows:

raerae votes for shraeye in RVS, shocking and completely unexpected. #53
Awaclus votes because shraeye taunted him into it. #123
Awaclus revotes #183
Jimmmmm votes because shraeye sheeped a vote #196 (I consider this the first real vote on shraeye but Awaclus can certainly correct me) #196
MiX votes with zero explanation, looks like nothing more than a dodge off Glooble #218
mail-mi votes after MiX says shraeye's wagon had died #243

So, considering there's been 1-1.5 real votes on shraeye and MiX is trying to trump that up into something this seems like the right call.

Vote: MiX

[MiX]

Ok now do progressions of non (mail-mi/Glooble/MiX) wagons, you'll arrive at the same conclusion. There were no other real wagons, but shraeye's was the biggest for lasting the longest. I think. Maybe Galzria lasted more. Can you check Galzria's while I'm on mobile?

[raerae]

Ok now do progressions of non (mail-mi/Glooble/MiX) wagons, you'll arrive at the same conclusion. There were no other real wagons, but shraeye's was the biggest for lasting the longest. I think. Maybe Galzria lasted more. Can you check Galzria's while I'm on mobile?

Why in the name of all things good would I give any of you a pass?  That's a no from me.  I'm comfortable where I am.

[WestCoastDidds]

Happy Thanksgiving!!

I am grateful for all of you showing up and playing games. You’re awesome.

Sometimes I wonder if Didds is playing mafia, or using it as an excuse to talk to people...to this day I don't know the answer, and I don't think I ever will. It's probably both, really.

Yes, it’s 100% both

[WestCoastDidds]

And it will probably always be both and after a year or so playing here, most people have figured out that is just who I am and ignore it if chatting isn’t their jam or engage if they prefer to play with real people as opposed to bots or whatever. I far prefer to play all games with friends, and this is how I do friends. For example, my favorite game ever so far was the drunk mafia game with the owl memes. Way, way better for me than the serious games, even those where I played well.

You can also all come  over for Thanksgiving but you will definitely have to say what you are grateful for when it’s your turn.

[raerae]

And it will probably always be both and after a year or so playing here, most people have figured out that is just who I am and ignore it if chatting isn’t their jam or engage if they prefer to play with real people as opposed to bots or whatever. I far prefer to play all games with friends, and this is how I do friends. For example, my favorite game ever so far was the drunk mafia game with the owl memes. Way, way better for me than the serious games, even those where I played well.

You can also all come  over for Thanksgiving but you will definitely have to say what you are grateful for when it’s your turn.

And this is where our friendship ends.  Engaging bot mode!

[WestCoastDidds]

You can be grateful for not having to cook or do the dishes.

I got you, boo

[mail-mi]

Progression of shraeye's "wagon" is as follows:

raerae votes for shraeye in RVS, shocking and completely unexpected. #53
Awaclus votes because shraeye taunted him into it. #123
Awaclus revotes #183
Jimmmmm votes because shraeye sheeped a vote #196 (I consider this the first real vote on shraeye but Awaclus can certainly correct me) #196
MiX votes with zero explanation, looks like nothing more than a dodge off Glooble #218
mail-mi votes after MiX says shraeye's wagon had died #243

So, considering there's been 1-1.5 real votes on shraeye and MiX is trying to trump that up into something this seems like the right call.

Vote: MiX

Eh, I still think MiX is just being MiX. But you're right about shraeye. vote: glooble

[raerae]

Progression of shraeye's "wagon" is as follows:

raerae votes for shraeye in RVS, shocking and completely unexpected. #53
Awaclus votes because shraeye taunted him into it. #123
Awaclus revotes #183
Jimmmmm votes because shraeye sheeped a vote #196 (I consider this the first real vote on shraeye but Awaclus can certainly correct me) #196
MiX votes with zero explanation, looks like nothing more than a dodge off Glooble #218
mail-mi votes after MiX says shraeye's wagon had died #243

So, considering there's been 1-1.5 real votes on shraeye and MiX is trying to trump that up into something this seems like the right call.

Vote: MiX

Eh, I still think MiX is just being MiX. But you're right about shraeye. vote: glooble

So you're not buying the neighbor claim? 

[MiX]

Progression of shraeye's "wagon" is as follows:

raerae votes for shraeye in RVS, shocking and completely unexpected. #53
Awaclus votes because shraeye taunted him into it. #123
Awaclus revotes #183
Jimmmmm votes because shraeye sheeped a vote #196 (I consider this the first real vote on shraeye but Awaclus can certainly correct me) #196
MiX votes with zero explanation, looks like nothing more than a dodge off Glooble #218
mail-mi votes after MiX says shraeye's wagon had died #243

So, considering there's been 1-1.5 real votes on shraeye and MiX is trying to trump that up into something this seems like the right call.

Vote: MiX

Eh, I still think MiX is just being MiX. But you're right about shraeye. vote: glooble

So you're not buying the neighbor claim?

We're neighbors, not masons. How is this different than your vote on me?

[raerae]

Progression of shraeye's "wagon" is as follows:

raerae votes for shraeye in RVS, shocking and completely unexpected. #53
Awaclus votes because shraeye taunted him into it. #123
Awaclus revotes #183
Jimmmmm votes because shraeye sheeped a vote #196 (I consider this the first real vote on shraeye but Awaclus can certainly correct me) #196
MiX votes with zero explanation, looks like nothing more than a dodge off Glooble #218
mail-mi votes after MiX says shraeye's wagon had died #243

So, considering there's been 1-1.5 real votes on shraeye and MiX is trying to trump that up into something this seems like the right call.

Vote: MiX

Eh, I still think MiX is just being MiX. But you're right about shraeye. vote: glooble

So you're not buying the neighbor claim?

We're neighbors, not masons. How is this different than your vote on me?

I don't understand why this is addressed to me and I never said you were masons.  I laid out my reason for voting for you, mail-mi just put a vote down on Glooble and I've asked for clarification. 

[MiX]

Ok that was badly phrased.

I am also a neighbor. Do you not believe I'm a neighbor? If you do, how is mail-mi's vote different? Not that I think your vote on me is bad, just why did you ask precisely that question to mail-mi.

[raerae]

Ok that was badly phrased.

I am also a neighbor. Do you not believe I'm a neighbor? If you do, how is mail-mi's vote different? Not that I think your vote on me is bad, just why did you ask precisely that question to mail-mi.

I don't understand why this is addressed to me and I never said you were masons.  I laid out my reason for voting for you, mail-mi just put a vote down on Glooble and I've asked for clarification. 

[MiX]

Ok that was badly phrased.

I am also a neighbor. Do you not believe I'm a neighbor? If you do, how is mail-mi's vote different? Not that I think your vote on me is bad, just why did you ask precisely that question to mail-mi.

I don't understand why this is addressed to me and I never said you were masons.  I laid out my reason for voting for you, mail-mi just put a vote down on Glooble and I've asked for clarification. 

Oh, so just a general clarification, I see. Okay, I suppose that's fair.

[mail-mi]

Progression of shraeye's "wagon" is as follows:

raerae votes for shraeye in RVS, shocking and completely unexpected. #53
Awaclus votes because shraeye taunted him into it. #123
Awaclus revotes #183
Jimmmmm votes because shraeye sheeped a vote #196 (I consider this the first real vote on shraeye but Awaclus can certainly correct me) #196
MiX votes with zero explanation, looks like nothing more than a dodge off Glooble #218
mail-mi votes after MiX says shraeye's wagon had died #243

So, considering there's been 1-1.5 real votes on shraeye and MiX is trying to trump that up into something this seems like the right call.

Vote: MiX

Eh, I still think MiX is just being MiX. But you're right about shraeye. vote: glooble

So you're not buying the neighbor claim?

I buy the neighbor claim. But neighbors can be scum.

[jotheonah]

GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE

Vote Count 1.9

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble (L-1)
Glooble (3): shraeye, Jimmmmm, mail-mi (L-3)
MiX (1): raerae (L-5)
shraeye (1): MiX (L-5)

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

[Awaclus]

We're neighbors, not masons.

Yeah, it would be weird to have another set of Masons in this game in addition to me and Awaclus.

[Swowl]

We're neighbors, not masons.

Yeah, it would be weird to have another set of Masons in this game in addition to me and Awaclus.

truth

[Swowl]

I do not want to lynch a claimed member of a hood. Especially because they have admitted to having a third party in there, so the chances of it being a fake claim are about 0%.

On one hand - we have no way of knowing if there is skum in the NH.

OTOH - we can make a reasonable assumption that there is a greater chance of there being 0 skum in the NH than 2/3 (or 3/3) of them being skum (I am simply basing that off of play experience, nothing specific).

Glooble hasn't done anything crazy skummy imo... Mix is being Mix.

I have not really played a ton with Mail - Mi actually so I am gonna

Unvote

for like 6 hours while I go eat and cook and then I will read up and see where I stand. As previously admitted, my vote on Mail-Mi was pretty loose.




Also - HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYONE!

[Galzria]

So deadline is in 10 hours, and the last post was Swan almost 6 hours ago to remove Mail-Mi from L-1... And this is over a Holiday when people are generally drinking and making merry, and thus unlikely to be around.

So...

Can we get on with this? I will absolutely be asleep at deadline (7:30am my time, day after Thanksgiving. No chance I’m up for that).

[raerae]

I still think MiX's shraeye case was scumcity, I'm not moving.

[MiX]

So deadline is in 10 hours, and the last post was Swan almost 6 hours ago to remove Mail-Mi from L-1... And this is over a Holiday when people are generally drinking and making merry, and thus unlikely to be around.

So...

Can we get on with this? I will absolutely be asleep at deadline (7:30am my time, day after Thanksgiving. No chance I’m up for that).

I'm willing to hammer mail-mi if need be, which is precisely why I'm not voting there. Given the game state, it seems to be the only thing happening...

[WestCoastDidds]

Good morning, friends!

Are we doing this or no? My vote on mailmi was mostly joking, too, but I think he’s maybe more likely than Glooble to be scum. I don’t see the other wagons having Thanksgiving hangover steam.

I’d rather lynch than not, though...

[Jimmmmm]

Let's do it!

Vote: mail-mi

[MiX]

I want me some of that hammer stuff, I rarely do that.

Vote: mail-mi, please flip scum.

[WestCoastDidds]

I want me some of that hammer stuff, I rarely do that.

Vote: mail-mi, please flip scum.

Yeah, I think of you as flying around, not bringing the hammer.

[jotheonah]

”Alright, it’s getting late, let’s do a final vote by show of hands. 1, 2, 3... 4, 5, 6... ok, that seems like enough, let’s lynch mail-mi!”

Immediately the kind and gregarious citizens of town have murder in their eyes. They descend on mail-mi and strongarm him to the noose.

“No please, I don’t even live here!” he shouts. “I’m a commuter! I have a train to catch!”

But the bloody knife that falls out of his jacket is enough to convince the town to carry on.

Vote Count 1.10

mail-mi (6): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble, Jimmmmm, MiX
Glooble (2): shraeye, mail-mi
MiX (1): raerae

Not voting (1): DatSwan

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

mail-mi has been lynched. He was an Enabled Commuter Serial Killer.

THREAD LOCKED

Because of the holiday, and also possibly just as the new norm going forward, night will last 48 hours rather than 24. Night actions will be accepted until I calculate them, but please get them in an hour before night’s end to guarantee processing.

[jotheonah]

Town ethicist Tony Townsend went to bed with a smile on his face. That scary serial killer mail-mi was dead. Surely mail-mi was the source of all the town's many murders. Tonight, he would sleep peacefully for 48 hours, dream pleasant dreams, and wake up refreshed, happy and alive, he thought to himself.


And that's exactly what happened, because no one died last night.

Vote Count 2.0



Not voting (9): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble, Jimmmmm, MiX, shraeye, raerae, DatSwan

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 begins now and ends Sunday, December 8 at 9 am EST.

THREAD UNLOCKED

[WestCoastDidds]

Yahoooooo!

[MiX]

Yahoooooo!

"Woop woop we killed SK" is what I said in the neighborhood (not literally of course), but hey no deaths!

I completely forgot to setup a VCA, I should do that, the game's so small anyway. Based on nothing but a hunch, I think

Vote: Jimmmmm is the best placeholder vote.

[Awaclus]

Town ethicist Tony Townsend went to bed with a smile on his face. That scary serial killer mail-mi was dead. Surely mail-mi was the source of all the town's many murders. Tonight, he would sleep peacefully for 48 hours, dream pleasant dreams, and wake up refreshed, happy and alive, he thought to himself.


And that's exactly what happened, because no one died last night.

>inb4 mail-mi was actually the source of all the murders and the rest of the game is just town lynching each other

[WestCoastDidds]

Oh, that would be hilarious. No mafia, just some rando killers!

[WestCoastDidds]

Speaking of hunches vote: Galzy

[shraeye]

Yahoooooo!

"Woop woop we killed SK" is what I said in the neighborhood (not literally of course), but hey no deaths!

I completely forgot to setup a VCA, I should do that, the game's so small anyway. Based on nothing but a hunch, I think

Vote: Jimmmmm is the best placeholder vote.

Any particular reason for this placeholder?

[MiX]

Yahoooooo!

"Woop woop we killed SK" is what I said in the neighborhood (not literally of course), but hey no deaths!

I completely forgot to setup a VCA, I should do that, the game's so small anyway. Based on nothing but a hunch, I think

Vote: Jimmmmm is the best placeholder vote.

Any particular reason for this placeholder?

Mostly what I remember from votes D1, Jimmmmmm's felt safe for scum (if there is any...I'm assuming there's at least 2, because the flavor says scum's name), and that's pretty much it.

[Jimmmmm]

Mostly what I remember from votes D1, Jimmmmmm's felt safe for scum (if there is any...I'm assuming there's at least 2, because the flavor says scum's name), and that's pretty much it.

Meaningless reasons are meaningless. Vote: MiX

[Glooble]

This is very good but also very frustrating. Serial killer means no partners to hunt interactions for. No NK means to flip to analyze. We’re down a third party and back to square one.

[MiX]

This is very good but also very frustrating. Serial killer means no partners to hunt interactions for. No NK means to flip to analyze. We’re down a third party and back to square one.

For scum it'a a mislynch, so there's meaningful VCAs. Sadly I was very busy this weekend so I haven't done anything meaningful yet.

[WestCoastDidds]

Can someone who knows fill me in....what does a bastard game mean? Is it like an RMM where we expect that lots of interesting things happened during the night?

[Awaclus]

Can someone who knows fill me in....what does a bastard game mean? Is it like an RMM where we expect that lots of interesting things happened during the night?

It means the game uses non-conventional mechanics that players might find to be in poor taste (i.e. the mod is a bastard). A lot of bastard games completely change the nature of the game in ways that players could not be reasonably expected to predict but they aren't necessarily as complex as RMMs.

[WestCoastDidds]

Can someone who knows fill me in....what does a bastard game mean? Is it like an RMM where we expect that lots of interesting things happened during the night?

It means the game uses non-conventional mechanics that players might find to be in poor taste (i.e. the mod is a bastard). A lot of bastard games completely change the nature of the game in ways that players could not be reasonably expected to predict but they aren't necessarily as complex as RMMs.

Thanks, Awa....can you give me an example?  What kind of mechanic is in poor taste? Does that mean unfair or unexpected?

[Awaclus]

Thanks, Awa....can you give me an example?  What kind of mechanic is in poor taste? Does that mean unfair or unexpected?

Stuff like Jester, posting restrictions, roles that involve the mod lying (excluding some reasonably common roles like Godfather that can be expected to be in the setup if there is a Cop), unpredictable alignment changes (e.g. due to a Cult), setups where this happens:

the game is just town lynching each other

[WestCoastDidds]

Thank you!

[jotheonah]

Which is better, murder or no murder? It seems like a simple question, yet in the Town of Town, the absence of nighttime murder was really boring everybody.

"Remember when this town was interesting and people murdered each other?" citizens said to each other. "Those were the days!"

Vote Count 2.1

Jimmmmm (1): MiX
Galzria (1): WestCoastDidds
MiX (1): Jimmmmm

Not voting (6): Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble, shraeye, raerae, DatSwan

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Sunday, December 8 at 9 am EST.

[raerae]

Hey, Didds, you still a ghost?

[WestCoastDidds]

Well, it’s definitely been a ghost town today. Just me chilling with Awaclus and Awaclus.

[raerae]

Well, it’s definitely been a ghost town today. Just me chilling with Awaclus and Awaclus.

Fair enough, they're pleasant company. Whatcha think we should do today?

[WestCoastDidds]

I’m super curious about what happened last night but maybe it’s too early to share such things? I don’t know but I feel like the stall is never any good for town, ya know?

What are you thinking would be fun?

[Glooble]

I’m super curious but I have a hard time seeing where speculating gets us. Why no one died last night is a piece of info that scum wants way more than town does. Let them speculate in their QT.

Also today was insane for me at work (Cyber Monday when you basically run an online store, yay!) so I should have more time the rest of the week.

[shraeye]

Yeah, no nightkill is good business, and probably somebody knows exactly why, and I trust them to say it at the right time.

[raerae]

I’m super curious about what happened last night but maybe it’s too early to share such things? I don’t know but I feel like the stall is never any good for town, ya know?

What are you thinking would be fun?

Yeah, I don't know how to take it. I'd like to be hopefully and think somebody stopped a kill but I'm suspicious. I suppose we should lunch, seems like the popular thing to do.

[WestCoastDidds]

Glooble, what is your online store??  It the week before finals for me so it’s a sea of stressful energy that rubs off on me!

I’m not so much interested in speculating about why there was no night kill (I have a guess on that one), but I’m curious about what kinds of cool things might have happened. Or anything else that might get us moving, really.

[raerae]

Glooble, what is your online store??  It the week before finals for me so it’s a sea of stressful energy that rubs off on me!

I’m not so much interested in speculating about why there was no night kill (I have a guess on that one), but I’m curious about what kinds of cool things might have happened. Or anything else that might get us moving, really.

I agree, I don't think now is the right time for protective roles to come forward but maybe if we've got a good cop result? Or we could just repeat RVS and see what happens.

[Swowl]

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

[Swowl]

There is not much to be gained from a VCA pov from this last day. As the flip was third party.

It should be noted that skum would be equally likely to be on an SK as a Town player, but the way the Glooble wagon went, I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense.

With the SK down, I think it is most likely that skum targeted either Glooble or MiX after the claim and they were protected by someone.

I am gonna look into it more, but there isn't exactly a ton to go off of from my pov at this point.

[Awaclus]

There is not much to be gained from a VCA pov from this last day. As the flip was third party.

This is not true, as has been pointed out:

For scum it'a a mislynch, so there's meaningful VCAs.

[Jimmmmm]

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

[Swowl]

There is not much to be gained from a VCA pov from this last day. As the flip was third party.

This is not true, as has been pointed out:

For scum it'a a mislynch, so there's meaningful VCAs.

I also said exactly that. I just disagree that it renders relevant VCA. SK being lynched vrs Town being lynched is the same thing when looking at it from the pov of Mafia.

[Awaclus]

How do you know that Glooble is town?

[Awaclus]

Vote: DatSwan

[Swowl]

How do you know that Glooble is town?

I don't? That is why I said - quote - "I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense."

[Galzria]

How do you know that Glooble is town?

Do you think he was speaking specifically? I read it as speaking generally.

[Galzria]

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

Samsies - Raptor/Swan/Myself hosted Friendsgiving this weekend, so we were all rather busy.

[Swowl]

quote should be in full so it reads right: "It should be noted that skum would be equally likely to be on an SK as a Town player, but the way the Glooble wagon went, I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense."

[Swowl]

I typed like 3 sentences. How could you miss that?

Vote: Awaclus

[Galzria]

”Alright, it’s getting late, let’s do a final vote by show of hands. 1, 2, 3... 4, 5, 6... ok, that seems like enough, let’s lynch mail-mi!”

Immediately the kind and gregarious citizens of town have murder in their eyes. They descend on mail-mi and strongarm him to the noose.

“No please, I don’t even live here!” he shouts. “I’m a commuter! I have a train to catch!”

But the bloody knife that falls out of his jacket is enough to convince the town to carry on.

Vote Count 1.10

mail-mi (6): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble, Jimmmmm, MiX
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi
MiX (1): raerae

Not voting (1): DatSwan

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

mail-mi has been lynched. He was an Enabled Commuter Serial Killer.

THREAD LOCKED

Because of the holiday, and also possibly just as the new norm going forward, night will last 48 hours rather than 24. Night actions will be accepted until I calculate them, but please get them in an hour before night’s end to guarantee processing.

I don’t think VCA is completely useless.

Glooble is either Town, or he’s scum (or he’s third party, but for this he would be considered Town):

If he’s town, then scum literally didn’t care where they were. On him, on Mail-Mi, not voting, whatever.

If he’s scum though, then I would expect Mail-Mi’s wagon to be crawling with scum.

So really, I think without knowing Glooble’s alignment at this time, the value in VCA comes from what you believe his alignment to be.

[raerae]

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

Who's guessing? I think we've all come up the same conclusion you just did.

[raerae]

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

Who's guessing? I think we've all come up the same conclusion you just did.

And catching up I see I'm wrong. In any case, I'm with you.

[Jimmmmm]

I'm not sure why we're discussing the Night's events at all. Scum seems to often enjoy feigning ignorance over Night actions, but absent some kind of claimed result, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to guess.

Who's guessing? I think we've all come up the same conclusion you just did.

My point was it doesn't need to be discussed at all at this stage. Although I supposed I only added to the discussion.

[Awaclus]

SK being lynched vrs Town being lynched is the same thing when looking at it from the pov of Mafia.

[Swowl]

SK being lynched vrs Town being lynched is the same thing when looking at it from the pov of Mafia.

[MiX]

quote should be in full so it reads right: "It should be noted that skum would be equally likely to be on an SK as a Town player, but the way the Glooble wagon went, I am not confident at all in say something like "Glooble was Skum so the wagon moved to Mail Mi" in defense."

I think what we all want to know is, why do you think this? What about the Glooble wagons tells you that their alignment has no bearing in how the wagons moved?

[jotheonah]

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

Samsies - Raptor/Swan/Myself hosted Friendsgiving this weekend, so we were all rather busy.

I hope nothing else got broken...

[WestCoastDidds]

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

Samsies - Raptor/Swan/Myself hosted Friendsgiving this weekend, so we were all rather busy.

I hope nothing else got broken...

Right? Is all of the cookware safe? If not, we gotta lynch raptor!

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote Count 1.10

mail-mi (6): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble, Jimmmmm, MiX
Glooble (3): shraeye, mail-mi
MiX (1): raerae

Not voting (1): DatSwan

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

mail-mi has been lynched. He was an Enabled Commuter Serial Killer.

Joth, there were 2 votes on Glooble at the lynch, not 3.

[Glooble]

Glooble, what is your online store??  It the week before finals for me so it’s a sea of stressful energy that rubs off on me!

I work for a jigsaw puzzle company, and part of my job is dealing with online orders


I just did a reread of day 1. It was thoroughly unhelpful.

[raerae]

Glooble, what is your online store??  It the week before finals for me so it’s a sea of stressful energy that rubs off on me!

I work for a jigsaw puzzle company, and part of my job is dealing with online orders


I just did a reread of day 1. It was thoroughly unhelpful.

Coolest job ever! Holy buckets!

[WestCoastDidds]

I work for a jigsaw puzzle company, and part of my job is dealing with online orders

I just did a reread of day 1. It was thoroughly unhelpful.

That’s so awesome!! Wow!

[WestCoastDidds]

The job, not the reread. My reread yielded nothing at all.

[raerae]

MiX, why are you voting for Jimmmm?

[MiX]

MiX, why are you voting for Jimmmm?

Mostly what I remember from votes D1, Jimmmmmm's felt safe for scum (if there is any...I'm assuming there's at least 2, because the flavor says scum's name), and that's pretty much it.

What, you think it changed? Maybe if I was actually rereading and setting up things, but I'm not...

[raerae]

MiX, why are you voting for Jimmmm?

Mostly what I remember from votes D1, Jimmmmmm's felt safe for scum (if there is any...I'm assuming there's at least 2, because the flavor says scum's name), and that's pretty much it.

What, you think it changed? Maybe if I was actually rereading and setting up things, but I'm not...

Naw, just forgot and missed it.

[raerae]

Blech, what an ugly day.

[shraeye]

Blech, what an ugly day.

I don't know whether raerae is talking about this Mafia-game-day, or about December 3rd in the shraerae household.  Because I can verify that the latter was ugly.

[raerae]

Blech, what an ugly day.

I don't know whether raerae is talking about this Mafia-game-day, or about December 3rd in the shraerae household.  Because I can verify that the latter was ugly.

¿Por qué no los dos?

[Awaclus]

I work for a jigsaw puzzle company, and part of my job is dealing with online orders

I just did a reread of day 1. It was thoroughly unhelpful.

That’s so awesome!! Wow!

(the reread, not the job)

[Swowl]

joth sent me a prod. doing catch up right this moment.

Samsies - Raptor/Swan/Myself hosted Friendsgiving this weekend, so we were all rather busy.

I hope nothing else got broken...

I insisted on using paper plates

[raerae]

Funny Awaclus has the opposite of my vote. They can stay. Who's being too serious? I gotta get my vote on.

[WestCoastDidds]

That’s so awesome!! Wow!

(the reread, not the job)

Funny Awaclus is my favorite of the two Awacluses

[jotheonah]

A wild vote count appears!

Vote Count 2.2

Jimmmmm (1): MiX
Galzria (1): WestCoastDidds
MiX (1): Jimmmmm
DatSwan (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (1): DatSwan

Not voting (4): Galzria, Glooble, shraeye, raerae

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Sunday, December 8 at 9 am EST.

[Awaclus]

That’s so awesome!! Wow!

(the reread, not the job)

Funny Awaclus is my favorite of the two Awacluses

Mine too!

[Awaclus]

That’s so awesome!! Wow!

(the reread, not the job)

Funny Awaclus is my favorite of the two Awacluses

Mine too!

I like the serious Awaclus more, personally.

[raerae]

Vote: mail-mi

[Glooble]

Vote: mail-mi

Just in case he secretly survived? I guess that makes sense, it is a bastard game.

[MiX]

Vote: mail-mi

Just in case he secretly survived? I guess that makes sense, it is a bastard game.

That IS pretty bastard.

Glooble, you really have nothing to vote for after rereading? Knowing your alignment must be amazing to analyze D1, right? Also can people with more time than me at least make a case on, uh, anyone? Or do I need to kickstart this day with accusations?

[raerae]

Hahahahaha, I'm an idiot, let's try again.

Vote: MiX

Dude hasn't made me laugh once this game.

[MiX]

Hahahahaha, I'm an idiot, let's try again.

Vote: MiX

Dude hasn't made me laugh once this game.

If I tried it wouldn't work anyway.

[raerae]

Hahahahaha, I'm an idiot, let's try again.

Vote: MiX

Dude hasn't made me laugh once this game.

If I tried it wouldn't work anyway.

Well, not with that attitude!

[Awaclus]

Hahahahaha, I'm an idiot, let's try again.

Vote: MiX

Dude hasn't made me laugh once this game.

If I tried it wouldn't work anyway.

Maybe it will work if you don't try!

[MiX]

Hahahahaha, I'm an idiot, let's try again.

Vote: MiX

Dude hasn't made me laugh once this game.

If I tried it wouldn't work anyway.

Maybe it will work if you don't try!

Well clearly it hasn't.

[raerae]

Oofda, tough crowd.




Anywayyyyy, DatSwan, Awaclus, you guys really think you're scum?

[Awaclus]

Oofda, tough crowd.




Anywayyyyy, DatSwan, Awaclus, you guys really think you're scum?

I don't think I'm scum.

[Awaclus]

But DatSwan really thinks that he's scum.

[Glooble]

Vote: mail-mi

Just in case he secretly survived? I guess that makes sense, it is a bastard game.

That IS pretty bastard.

Glooble, you really have nothing to vote for after rereading? Knowing your alignment must be amazing to analyze D1, right? Also can people with more time than me at least make a case on, uh, anyone? Or do I need to kickstart this day with accusations?

Knowing my alignment raises more questions than it answers. I know scum wasn't in any real danger, which means they wouldn't take any big risks to swing the vote. Raerae and MiX both backed off me when my lynch was close, which could be read as skittish, but I'm still townreading both of them.

I am currently stuck between Awaclus and Jimmmmm. They both voted in kind of an opportunistic way. But Jimmmmm's L-1 on mail-mi was close enough to deadline that it's pretty town, so I guess I'll vote: Awaclus. I could still totally go for Jimmmmm though.

Wish I had a stronger case.

[MiX]

skittish

Wait. This isn't the skitter game.

I don't know what Jimmmmm's L-1 vote has to do with his alignment.

[Glooble]

skittish

Wait. This isn't the skitter game.

I don't know what Jimmmmm's L-1 vote has to do with his alignment.

If it had come with more time on the clock I would have found it scummier. But as it is, I don't.

[Awaclus]

Vote: mail-mi

Just in case he secretly survived? I guess that makes sense, it is a bastard game.

That IS pretty bastard.

Glooble, you really have nothing to vote for after rereading? Knowing your alignment must be amazing to analyze D1, right? Also can people with more time than me at least make a case on, uh, anyone? Or do I need to kickstart this day with accusations?

Knowing my alignment raises more questions than it answers. I know scum wasn't in any real danger, which means they wouldn't take any big risks to swing the vote. Raerae and MiX both backed off me when my lynch was close, which could be read as skittish, but I'm still townreading both of them.

I am currently stuck between Awaclus and Jimmmmm. They both voted in kind of an opportunistic way. But Jimmmmm's L-1 on mail-mi was close enough to deadline that it's pretty town, so I guess I'll vote: Awaclus. I could still totally go for Jimmmmm though.

Wish I had a stronger case.

Have you forgotten that I'm a confirmed Mason?

Yes, my vote on you was opportunistic. I hopped on your wagon when I saw the opportunity to fish for interesting interactions, at which I was highly successful. I don't see what's scummy about that. If you're talking about my mail-mi vote, that doesn't even make any sense because I had already been voting for mail-mi before the tangents with shraeye and you came up.

[MiX]

How are you a confirmed mason? You and Awaclus can both be scum!

...how do you know you were highly successful?

[Awaclus]

...how do you know you were highly successful?

From reading the thread.

[raerae]

...how do you know you were highly successful?

From reading the thread.

Witchcraft!!

[Swowl]

GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE

Vote Count 1.9

mail-mi (5): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, DatSwan, Awaclus, Glooble (L-1)
Glooble (3): shraeye, Jimmmmm, mail-mi (L-3)
MiX (1): raerae (L-5)
shraeye (1): MiX (L-5)

Not voting (0):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Friday, November 29th at 10:30 am.

So here is why i am OK with my Awaclus vote. The above was the construct of the wagon just before i stopped voting for Mail Mi.

After this Jimmm comes in and Mix hammers.

We are faced with the upside downside of lynching an SK and nothing else happening. We have no info. The only info we have is that skum presumably did not know Mail Mi was an SK so to them they were pushing a standard mislynch.

So either...

1) Glooble is “Town” and it was town vs town. In which case if there was skum not voting a wagon, maybe they do maybe they don’t who the hell knows. If there was skum on Glooble.... they probably didn’t move from a town wagon to a town wagon bc that looks suspicious. And if there was skum on Mail Mi they would of sit tight.

K but then we don’t know what Glooble is so ....

2) Glooble is skum and it was a skum v “Town” wagon. So i Unvote... would jimm scramble? Would mix hammer after jimm leaves Glooble? Idk, again no info. I suppose i think it likelier the mix but than the Jim bit but it is all stretches and reaches right now. However, what doesn’t stay constant is that skum (if on Mail Mi before the end of day approaches) they would sit there.

So skum sits on Mail mi if Glooble is town, and skum sits on Mail mi if Glooble is skum. So that leaves me looking at Didds Galz or Awaclus (or Glooble, but bc potential self prez can’t run with that too hard).

Awaclus vote out of those seemed potentially opportunistic (which would mean my assumption of Glooble being town if Awaclus is skum) and so yeah. Voting Awaclus.


Can’t remember who asked but there you go... a lot of words in a row.

[Awaclus]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

[Swowl]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

[Awaclus]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

After you unvoted, there was exactly one viable lynch and it was mail-mi. Your unvote served no purpose whatsoever.

[raerae]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

After you unvoted, there was exactly one viable lynch and it was mail-mi. Your unvote served no purpose whatsoever.

So wouldn't scum be less likely to unvote? Minimize actions, minimize scrutiny sort of thing.

[Awaclus]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

After you unvoted, there was exactly one viable lynch and it was mail-mi. Your unvote served no purpose whatsoever.

So wouldn't scum be less likely to unvote? Minimize actions, minimize scrutiny sort of thing.

By that logic, town would be less likely to unvote too.

[raerae]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

After you unvoted, there was exactly one viable lynch and it was mail-mi. Your unvote served no purpose whatsoever.

So wouldn't scum be less likely to unvote? Minimize actions, minimize scrutiny sort of thing.

By that logic, town would be less likely to unvote too.

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

[Awaclus]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

[Jimmmmm]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

I think there's a correlation, but it's not the only or necessarily the strongest one.

[Awaclus]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

I think there's a correlation, but it's not the only or necessarily the strongest one.

Well, the statement kind of disproves itself, doesn't it? If town cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny and scum cares more, then scum, in an attempt to look more towny, cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny.

[Jimmmmm]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

I think there's a correlation, but it's not the only or necessarily the strongest one.

Well, the statement kind of disproves itself, doesn't it? If town cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny and scum cares more, then scum, in an attempt to look more towny, cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny.

That logic basically removes all possibility of scumhunting. The game is based on the idea that scum can't perfectly emulate their Town selves.

[Awaclus]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

I think there's a correlation, but it's not the only or necessarily the strongest one.

Well, the statement kind of disproves itself, doesn't it? If town cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny and scum cares more, then scum, in an attempt to look more towny, cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny.

That logic basically removes all possibility of scumhunting. The game is based on the idea that scum can't perfectly emulate their Town selves.

It's not hard to emulate posting "unvote".

[Jimmmmm]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

I think there's a correlation, but it's not the only or necessarily the strongest one.

Well, the statement kind of disproves itself, doesn't it? If town cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny and scum cares more, then scum, in an attempt to look more towny, cares less about what looks or doesn't look towny.

That logic basically removes all possibility of scumhunting. The game is based on the idea that scum can't perfectly emulate their Town selves.

It's not hard to emulate posting "unvote".

We started at "generally" but now we're talking about the very specific action of unvoting?

[Galzria]

Vote: swan

Like I said before, the only valuable VCA to be gained from the lynch is what you believe Glooble’s alignment to be. Did scum care who amongst Mail-Mi/Glooble got lynched, or no?

If Glooble is town, scum literally did not care who got lynched. Swan’s unvote came on a Holiday, less than 24 hours from deadline, and allowed him to be associated with neither wagon, so that if either flipped he had no responsibility to the lynch.

If Glooble is scum, it’s especially notable that Swan unvoted instead of moving to the only other viable wagon when deadline was crunching down. He didn’t increase any potential threat against Glooble, but allowed himself the opportunity to jump back to mail-mi if needed. Why unvote at all? For the same reason as Glooble being town - it disassociated him with what he would’ve presumed to be a Town wagon when, given the holiday, the lynch was mostly inevitable anyway.

[Awaclus]

We started at "generally" but now we're talking about the very specific action of unvoting?

We started at the very specific action of unvoting:

So wouldn't scum be less likely to unvote?

[Jimmmmm]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

[Awaclus]

But town generally cares less about what looks or doesn't look townie.

I don't think that's true.

That is not where we started.

[MiX]

I didn't "sit on mail-mi". I was voting for Glooble and I moved back to mail-mi after Glooble's claim.

Sit on as it were, for terms of this use, is after i un voted. I should use better verbiage though - i am not claiming you were there a long time - just during a certain time.

After you unvoted, there was exactly one viable lynch and it was mail-mi. Your unvote served no purpose whatsoever.

This is accurate. Swan's points are all ONLY about the end of day 1 and I think that's just scum behavior from Swan.

Vote: Swan

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote

[MiX]

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

[jotheonah]

"What if, just to get some of that murder excitement going again, we had another lynching today?" one townie asks hopefully.

"Let's just check in with Tony, the town ethicist! Tony, is it ethical to kill somebody for no real reason, as long as a majority agrees to it?"

"I have to be honest with you guys. I never really went to school for ethics. I'm a total fraud. But I say 'YES!'"

"Good enough for us!!"

Vote Count 2.3


MiX (3): Jimmmmm, raerae, WestCoastDidds (L-2)
DatSwan (3): Awaclus, Galzria, MiX (L-2)
Awaclus (2): DatSwan, Glooble (L-3)

Not voting (1): shraeye

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Sunday, December 8 at 9 am EST.

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote seems off to me.

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

Sorry...it’s early and coffee. I corrected above...seems off to me.

Awaclus is making sense, but I don’t see it as a forced choice. Your reason for voting is different than Galz (who I don’t trust one bit) so it feels manufactured.

[MiX]

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote seems off to me.

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

Sorry...it’s early and coffee. I corrected above...seems off to me.

Awaclus is making sense, but I don’t see it as a forced choice. Your reason for voting is different than Galz (who I don’t trust one bit) so it feels manufactured.

I was going to vote Swan before seeing his vote, really. But what does that have to do with anything?

[WestCoastDidds]

I don’t understand your question. What does what have to do with anything?

[WestCoastDidds]

Also, last day of the semester!  Yahooooooo!!!

Join me, friends, in doing the dance of almost done! Almost done! Almost done! Almost done!

(Help me remember this moment of joy next week when I am in the seal the of doom known as grading....)

[MiX]

Also, last day of the semester!  Yahooooooo!!!

Join me, friends, in doing the dance of almost done! Almost done! Almost done! Almost done!

(Help me remember this moment of joy next week when I am in the seal the of doom known as grading....)

On a thursday???

I don’t understand your question. What does what have to do with anything?

What does Galz's reason for voting have to do with my own?

[WestCoastDidds]

Yes, a Thursday....because I don’t teach on Fridays!  So, I’m done! The semester actually ends tomorrow, but for all intents and purposes it’s over for me later today.

Ah, you’re right. Galz’s vote didn’t have anything to do with yours. They were just proximate to one another.

Shraeye, are you doing the dance if done yet? Mail-mi, I hope the end of the semester is treating you kindly, too.  MiX, are you a student? If so, then same good hopes!

[MiX]

Er...I forgot you were a teacher. Or your relative age to me. Debatepro always acts like a child...

Yes I am a student, and overall this semester's going well. Not much else to add.


Can you expand on what you thought about the relation between mine and Galz's votes?

[WestCoastDidds]

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

Vote: MiX
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[MiX]

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

Vote: MiX
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Wasn't meant to be an insult...sorry.

[MiX]

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

Vote: MiX
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Wasn't meant to be an insult...sorry.

Note to raerae: this is what happens when I try to be funny.

[jotheonah]

WestCoastDidds is a sextuple voter. MiX has been lynched.


...just kidding, he's fine, Didds only has one vote.

[WestCoastDidds]

WestCoastDidds is a sextuple voter. MiX has been lynched.


...just kidding, he's fine, Didds only has one vote.

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[raerae]

Um, yeah...insulting my spouse isn’t really cool at all and serves no purpose.

Vote: MiX
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Wasn't meant to be an insult...sorry.

Note to raerae: this is what happens when I try to be funny.

This is something we can improve on.

[WestCoastDidds]

Yes I am a student, and overall this semester's going well. Not much else to add.

Can you expand on what you thought about the relation between mine and Galz's votes?

Good luck on your exams, and I hope the break is restful. Do you get several weeks off and then start a new semester in January?

When I got to the page I read Galz’s vote for Swan, then there are some Awa posts and then your vote for Swan. So, I read them within a few seconds of each other so in my kind you were following him. So, when I started to write my post, I looked back and saw that you weren’t following because you had different reasons, but I thought your reasons felt ginned up.

Is that more clear?

[MiX]

Yes I am a student, and overall this semester's going well. Not much else to add.

Can you expand on what you thought about the relation between mine and Galz's votes?

Good luck on your exams, and I hope the break is restful. Do you get several weeks off and then start a new semester in January?

When I got to the page I read Galz’s vote for Swan, then there are some Awa posts and then your vote for Swan. So, I read them within a few seconds of each other so in my kind you were following him. So, when I started to write my post, I looked back and saw that you weren’t following because you had different reasons, but I thought your reasons felt ginned up.

Is that more clear?

The semester only starts in February, so I get a looooot of free time. It's awesome.

Okay that makes sense, I understand that.

[WestCoastDidds]

Wow...that is a super long break.  Do you have any fun plans?

[Swowl]

Vote: swan

Like I said before, the only valuable VCA to be gained from the lynch is what you believe Glooble’s alignment to be. Did scum care who amongst Mail-Mi/Glooble got lynched, or no?

If Glooble is town, scum literally did not care who got lynched. Swan’s unvote came on a Holiday, less than 24 hours from deadline, and allowed him to be associated with neither wagon, so that if either flipped he had no responsibility to the lynch.

If Glooble is scum, it’s especially notable that Swan unvoted instead of moving to the only other viable wagon when deadline was crunching down. He didn’t increase any potential threat against Glooble, but allowed himself the opportunity to jump back to mail-mi if needed. Why unvote at all? For the same reason as Glooble being town - it disassociated him with what he would’ve presumed to be a Town wagon when, given the holiday, the lynch was mostly inevitable anyway.

half right.

1) not skum so not trying to disassociate myself.
2) I would of (by un-voting) put myself in the "only person not voting wagon", which according to your logic I should of been very worried about.
3) To answer your question - I unvoted to see who else would vote there. Mail- Mi being skum that did not know other skum, combined with there being no NK kind of messed with the game plan tho.

[Swowl]

This is dumb. No reason to be quiet about it at this point.

I am the third Hood member.

This is why I am not insta voting MiX in this spot, as well as why when I dialed off of Mail Mi I did not want to vote for Glooble.

Either and or both of the Hood members can confirm that I attested early on to not wanted to attempt to target one and other for the early days just in case we could confirm some town alignments or some (many other) potential deviations of that concept.

MiX pushing me again... is weird. Which I don't get bc they have to know I was gonna call them out on it eventually.

[Swowl]

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

you knew that I didn't want to vote you or glooble. Why would you state this in the forum as being potentially skummy. It should of been "swan either stays on wagon" or "swan unvotes" from your pov.

[Swowl]

Was hoping to hold onto that info a little longer, but as the general seem of things seems to be because "why did I unvote instead of go for Glooble"... there is your answer.

[Swowl]

I do not understand why MiX is pushing me or what their logic is here.

1) They said that they don't get why I focused on day 1 VCA only when I posted my cases. Well duh... because we were at a stall and that was the source of most info. They claimed that ticks me as skum swan... which is just idk weird. Not only because it is not... but like because no one argued with it until I got to it either.

2) While I don't think it is super likely, it is like possible that all three of me mix glooble are town. This is the primary starting reason on why I want to avoid early lynches in the hood. There is also the whole bit about MiX pushing me and not outting me, which I don't know what to make of right now.

3) Still don't want to lynch in the hood but I will do it if I have to.

[MiX]

Either and or both of the Hood members can confirm that I attested early on to not wanted to attempt to target one and other for the early days just in case we could confirm some town alignments or some (many other) potential deviations of that concept.

It took me a long time to figure out what this meant, and I feel like I'm voting you because of similar misunderstandings...

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

you knew that I didn't want to vote you or glooble. Why would you state this in the forum as being potentially skummy. It should of been "swan either stays on wagon" or "swan unvotes" from your pov.

Or moves to another wagon??? The unvote did not help town and only led you to claim this, it was pointless. Besides your reason to vote mail-mi was so good why would you ruin it by not pushing any other wagon?

Swan gave an explanation in the hood that was amazing and I thought he was town for it but honestly what it accomplished what that mail-mi and Glooble were the only wagons that day. Also a 3 town neighborhood is something I'm deeming less and less likely as the day progresses. I suggest lynching one of us 3.

I need to actually...do things this day...instead of getting Swan to claim for not voting Glooble...

1) They said that they don't get why I focused on day 1 VCA only when I posted my cases. Well duh... because we were at a stall and that was the source of most info. They claimed that ticks me as skum swan... which is just idk weird. Not only because it is not... but like because no one argued with it until I got to it either.

2) While I don't think it is super likely, it is like possible that all three of me mix glooble are town. This is the primary starting reason on why I want to avoid early lynches in the hood. There is also the whole bit about MiX pushing me and not outting me, which I don't know what to make of right now.

3) Still don't want to lynch in the hood but I will do it if I have to.

1) There's a muuuuuuuuch better VCA and I will prove it once I get around to it, hopefully today. Your unvote served nothing. NOTHING. I even voted Jimmmmm because he voted when you unvoted, to see what you would do with it. Nothing. So what did your unvote do? Nothing! It also has nothing to do with Awaclus.

2) Yes it's possible any 3 players are town, okay. I guess it doesn't make sense that 2 of us are scum, so I suppose we're a slightly townier trio of players? Still, it's very easy to just hide behind hood, and I don't like it. Gloobled lived day 1 because of the hood, for example. We should counterbalance this with more scrutiny.

3) Buddying is fun I get it, but at this point I think one of Swan/Glooble is the best lynch. I'll get VCAs setup.

[Swowl]

Either and or both of the Hood members can confirm that I attested early on to not wanted to attempt to target one and other for the early days just in case we could confirm some town alignments or some (many other) potential deviations of that concept.

It took me a long time to figure out what this meant, and I feel like I'm voting you because of similar misunderstandings...

Vote: MiX

Those are some ginned up charges to vote for Swan. I don’t know yet what I think of Swan, but skewering him for only talking about the end of D1 when he was engaged in a discussion about the unvote

Is scummy? Is that the end of that sentence? I feel like there's much, much more to talk about than Swan's unvote (like Galzria and shraeye wagon) but he only focused on the unvote. Feels wrong and out of character for Swan. Also doesn't help that I barely understood his wall post, and that Awaclus is making sense.

you knew that I didn't want to vote you or glooble. Why would you state this in the forum as being potentially skummy. It should of been "swan either stays on wagon" or "swan unvotes" from your pov.

Or moves to another wagon??? The unvote did not help town and only led you to claim this, it was pointless. Besides your reason to vote mail-mi was so good why would you ruin it by not pushing any other wagon?

Swan gave an explanation in the hood that was amazing and I thought he was town for it but honestly what it accomplished what that mail-mi and Glooble were the only wagons that day. Also a 3 town neighborhood is something I'm deeming less and less likely as the day progresses. I suggest lynching one of us 3.

I need to actually...do things this day...instead of getting Swan to claim for not voting Glooble...

1) They said that they don't get why I focused on day 1 VCA only when I posted my cases. Well duh... because we were at a stall and that was the source of most info. They claimed that ticks me as skum swan... which is just idk weird. Not only because it is not... but like because no one argued with it until I got to it either.

2) While I don't think it is super likely, it is like possible that all three of me mix glooble are town. This is the primary starting reason on why I want to avoid early lynches in the hood. There is also the whole bit about MiX pushing me and not outting me, which I don't know what to make of right now.

3) Still don't want to lynch in the hood but I will do it if I have to.

1) There's a muuuuuuuuch better VCA and I will prove it once I get around to it, hopefully today. Your unvote served nothing. NOTHING. I even voted Jimmmmm because he voted when you unvoted, to see what you would do with it. Nothing. So what did your unvote do? Nothing! It also has nothing to do with Awaclus.

2) Yes it's possible any 3 players are town, okay. I guess it doesn't make sense that 2 of us are scum, so I suppose we're a slightly townier trio of players? Still, it's very easy to just hide behind hood, and I don't like it. Gloobled lived day 1 because of the hood, for example. We should counterbalance this with more scrutiny.

3) Buddying is fun I get it, but at this point I think one of Swan/Glooble is the best lynch. I'll get VCAs setup.

Ok Vote: Mix then i guess.

My Unvote was because i didn’t like the Mail mi wagon and i didn’t want to lynch Glooble.i was hoping the move around of votes it could potentially cause would be useful - but yes in hindsight it was not. I had no way of knowing that at the time.

Go ahead and get that awesome non day 1 vca up when you have a chance tho.

[MiX]

Oh yes the grand move of votes Swan...give me a break.

These were the votes when you unvoted:

mail-mi (4): WestCoastDidds, Galzria, Awaclus, Glooble
Glooble (3): shraeye, Jimmmmm, mail-mi
MiX (1): raerae (L-5)
shraeye (1): MiX (L-5)

Not voting (1): Swan

12 hours to deadline. Oh look at all these great options!!! The only thing that could've happened was Glooble and you were specifically against that. The unvote was terrible.

Lynch me I don't care, Swan is still scum. Am I L-2 or something?

[MiX]

Current VC:

MiX (4): Jimmmmm, raerae, WestCoastDidds, DatSwan (L-1)
DatSwan (3): Awaclus, Galzria, MiX (L-2)
Awaclus (1): Glooble (L-4)

Not voting (1): shraeye

Amazing. Laziest wagon ever. I'm not claiming yet, I will simply prove Swan is scum with VCAs. Stand tight.

[Swowl]

I ain’t arguing with you about the unlikelihood of 3 town being in the hood... but the play out of it from your “town!pov” doesn’t make sense to me.

It minimizes all the potential upsides the hood can have and potentially capitalized on all the downsides in a rush ... on the chance of finding skum (assuming there is one at all).

[Swowl]

Also, confused.

Am i still skum?
Or should we be lynching within Glooble/Swan?

You seem to be i favor of both.

[MiX]

I ain’t arguing with you about the unlikelihood of 3 town being in the hood... but the play out of it from your “town!pov” doesn’t make sense to me.

It minimizes all the potential upsides the hood can have and potentially capitalized on all the downsides in a rush ... on the chance of finding skum (assuming there is one at all).

If my scumreads are in the hood, what am I supposed to do? Vote towny? I would rather push them, publically of course. What can I do privately, there's no votes. Being the hood does not mean you shouldn't vote there. I'm not good at finding partners pre-flips, so I don't know how to find your partners untill I know for certain you're scum. Also, outing the hood is pro-town if there's scum there, so it's not as bad as you think.

The unvote, and the reason for it, makes no sense from a town!Swan perspective. You wouldn't do it, that close to deadline, with the wagons as they were, with everything set up exactly as it was. It's anti-town. Yet you did it anyway.

Also, confused.

Am i still skum?
Or should we be lynching within Glooble/Swan?

You seem to be i favor of both.

If it's not you, I think Glooble's a good candidate, by being the other wagon and never taking off. I don't know, I didn't look into the wagons yet, I just think killing in hood isn't as unthinkable as you think.

[MiX]

A quick look at the VCA tells me:

- Glooble went to L-1 and then back down very quickly after this claim. Probably NAI.

- shraeye was always a thing, but never a real thing, and was at least more viable than my wagon. Also note that raerae jumped away when it went to 3 votes, but raerae voting for shraeye might as well be the same as not voting I suppose.

- mail-mi voted everywhere in a now obvious attempt at surviving, it's pretty funny in retrospect.

- (mail-mi/Glooble/shraye/MiX/Galzria) are the only people that recieved (meaningful) votes D1, in that order.

- D1 was a disaster.

- The most suspicious votes are the mail-mi vote chain (Didds/Glooble/Awaclus/Galzria), it's very easy for scum to be there (although Awaclus' vote is completely null, being the third) and Swan's unvote. Everything else seems to make perfect sense.

That's all I got. The Glooble wagon and how it appeared could be scrutinized, but I'm not seeing how just from looking at it. Also it depends on him being scum to be useful, and if Swan is scum Glooble's almost always town, so it's much less useful to me.

I'm going to sleep. I can claim tomorrow if that's what everyone wants. Now:

Wow...that is a super long break.  Do you have any fun plans?

No plans, just sitting around and...studying for exams? Yay.

[shraeye]

Shraeye, are you doing the dance if done yet?

No; I'm dying.

Also, this game is still going on?

[shraeye]

I guess DatSwan's plan makes sense; nbrhood clearing eachother would be nice; but MiX argument sounds reasonable too, scum is scum, I'd lynch my own neighbor if I thought they were scum.

Sounds town v town to me; what else is going on?

[shraeye]

Speaking of, one of our neighbors is cool and fun, and the other is lame and not fun. 

[WestCoastDidds]

Shraeye, are you doing the dance if done yet?

No; I'm dying.

Also, this game is still going on?

Solidarity, brother. How much longer until finals?

[raerae]

Shraeye, are you doing the dance if done yet?

No; I'm dying.

Also, this game is still going on?

Solidarity, brother. How much longer until finals?

Next week!!  Does debate get as excited as I do when the semester is coming to an end?

[WestCoastDidds]

No, but I wish he would because it would be way more awesome for me. I think he mostly thinks life is awfully unfair that my work has frequent lengthy vacations and he does not. He does like that I start doing more of the chores and stuff because I’m home instead of on campus...but he knows the cycle well...first the long slog of November, then the euphoria of the end of classes, then the dark doom of grading, then the week I’m off when no one else is. So, he’s anxiously waiting for the grading doom.  I’m too busy enjoying the euphoria!!

[WestCoastDidds]

MIX, one last personal question and then I’ll try to stop prying...what are you studying?

[MiX]

So part of me feared a hammer, another feared that I would have to claim...but I never once thought nothing would happen when I was sleeping. And it's probably the worst outcome.

MIX, one last personal question and then I’ll try to stop prying...what are you studying?

Math. Can't get simplier than that.

[Glooble]

I was also sleeping.

[MiX]

Ok I should claim, whatever, I doubt anything's changing untill I do this.

I am a Doctor Neighbor and I picked Galzria. Figured the odds of him being NKd were above 0, and he was one of my townreads. He's probably town after seeing no deaths, but given there's a SK, this setup is very much not normal, so I don't think we can make that conclusion just yet. At least I didn't.

Outing the hood the way it happened was premeditated: I thought it would lower the kill pool (who kills neighbors anyway?) so I had a higher chance of protecting someone, and a lower chance of dying. It sorta worked I suppose, good job me.

Yay we did it we outed a Doctor. Karma's a bitch I guess.

[raerae]

Why would Galz have an bigger target on his back than anybody else?

[MiX]

Why would Galz have an bigger target on his back than anybody else?

Why wouldn't he? You're probably overestimating the amount of townreads I had D1.

[Glooble]

I don't think I believe this claim, but I'm not sure I disbelieve it quite enough to lynch a claimed doctor.

[jotheonah]

Announcement: It feels like 7-day days are too long for this game, so starting next game day (Day 3) we will be moving to 5-day days. We are also moving to 48 hour nights going forward.

[MiX]

Announcement: It feels like 7-day days are too long for this game, so starting next game day (Day 3) we will be moving to 5-day days. We are also moving to 48 hour nights going forward.

Booooooooooooooo 5-day days are too short. 2-day nights are welcome, however.

[Awaclus]

Announcement: It feels like 7-day days are too long for this game, so starting next game day (Day 3) we will be moving to 5-day days. We are also moving to 48 hour nights going forward.

[raerae]

Announcement: It feels like 7-day days are too long for this game, so starting next game day (Day 3) we will be moving to 5-day days. We are also moving to 48 hour nights going forward.

I loave it!

[raerae]

Why would Galz have an bigger target on his back than anybody else?

Why wouldn't he? You're probably overestimating the amount of townreads I had D1.

Answering a question with a question. Fabulous.

If it's just that you had a townread on Galz then cool but you specifically said he was a target for the NK so I'm curious why you think that.

[MiX]

Why would Galz have an bigger target on his back than anybody else?

Why wouldn't he? You're probably overestimating the amount of townreads I had D1.

Answering a question with a question. Fabulous.

If it's just that you had a townread on Galz then cool but you specifically said he was a target for the NK so I'm curious why you think that.

Because Galzria is The Town God. Everyone knows this, right?

As proof of this I present the latest game, where he was actually rereading and cracking the game open.

[raerae]

Hang on, rolled my eyes straight outta my head there, gotta go find 'em back.

[MiX]

Hang on, rolled my eyes straight outta my head there, gotta go find 'em back.

One day, someone will agree with me...

And then I'll wake up.

[raerae]

Hang on, rolled my eyes straight outta my head there, gotta go find 'em back.

One day, someone will agree with me...

And then I'll wake up.

Joke! This is an improvement.

[Swowl]

I am here. I have seen MiX's claim.

I am in a weird spot where based on my logic of who is suspicious I am looking at WCD, Galz, and Awaclus.

I chose to go with Awaclus.
Then Mix pulled all this stuff.
So now I am on MiX.
It is clear no one liked my Awaclus case. Which was, to be fair... kind of weak.

My second would be Galz.... who Mix has now claimed to Doctor N1.
It could just be straight up as forward as skum shot at galz and galz didn't die and now Mix is L-1 so they just up and claim with no one asking them to do so.. and they claim doctor galz (because they know someone thing happened) so worst case for skum in that case they get a claim out of a PR or something.
It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.
It could also be a bunch of other stuff I guess, but that would be the 2 top options that ring out.

Third is WCD, who for reasons (non PR reasons, to be specific) I just don't want to pursue at this point.


So yeah - as moving my vote puts me up for the mislynch, combined with... I just don't really believe MiX at this point... I don't see me moving.

[Glooble]

MiX has been at L-1 for a long time. No one's hammered, but also no one has jumped off following the claim. It's interesting.

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX has been at L-1 for a long time. No one's hammered, but also no one has jumped off following the claim. It's interesting.

Does the lack of hammer mean he’s scum and his buddies don’t want to lose him? Or that’s he’s town and scum are already on him?

I did not have super solid reasons for my original vote, but I have no reason to believe MiX right now. He literally could have said anything, there is no one who can verify his claim, or rather no one who is willing to do it. Seems awfully convenient to reveal a super useful town role.

I’m willing to be convinced to move elsewhere, though

[Glooble]

Or I could just hammer.

[MiX]

Everyone is scared Swan is lynched if they unvote, and for some reason people are townreading Swan.

I'm willing to swap to Didds, that's my other scumread.

Otherwise I see that town and scum alike are in an incredibly passive nature and have no will to do anything, in which case there is nothing I can do to help or change that.

I still think Swan is scum. But it's not happening, I get it.

I will obviously vote anywhere to save myself.

Whatever just hammer me this day's not moving right. No one cares.

[MiX]

It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.

This is a slip. Swan and Galzria are scum together. That's my non-Swan case, but obviously it's off Swan being scum. Swan does not play the way he is playing as town, at all.

[Glooble]

It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.

This is a slip. Swan and Galzria are scum together. That's my non-Swan case, but obviously it's off Swan being scum. Swan does not play the way he is playing as town, at all.

I don’t see the slip.

[MiX]

It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.

This is a slip. Swan and Galzria are scum together. That's my non-Swan case, but obviously it's off Swan being scum. Swan does not play the way he is playing as town, at all.

I don’t see the slip.

How about now?

[Glooble]

But that is possible? If you’re town, you could have doctored Galz, not knowing he was scum. Maybe a different protective role was responsible for the lack of a kill. Who knows?

[MiX]

But that is possible? If you’re town, you could have doctored Galz, not knowing he was scum. Maybe a different protective role was responsible for the lack of a kill. Who knows?

Sure it's possible but it's very far from what town would think of as their top 2 options...

My second would be Galz.... who Mix has now claimed to Doctor N1.
It could just be straight up as forward as skum shot at galz and galz didn't die and now Mix is L-1 so they just up and claim with no one asking them to do so.. and they claim doctor galz (because they know someone thing happened) so worst case for skum in that case they get a claim out of a PR or something.
It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.
It could also be a bunch of other stuff I guess, but that would be the 2 top options that ring out.

This is the whole quote. Are the first things that come to mind that "one is scum", really? No, he clearly meant to say that Galz was town. And if not then it makes no sense as town!Swan to say it like this. Almost like he knows Galzria is scum so he's putting it as an option.

[WestCoastDidds]

Galz is my top scum read so if that is a slip, it’s the Galz part of it that I’m more interested in.

[MiX]

Galz is my top scum read so if that is a slip, it’s the Galz part of it that I’m more interested in.

Okay then vote for him 

Seriously, why am I scummy to you?

[WestCoastDidds]

Galz is my top scum read so if that is a slip, it’s the Galz part of it that I’m more interested in.

Okay then vote for him 

Seriously, why am I scummy to you?

It’s like two pages back...your vote for Swan seems too manufactured, and it followed really quickly after Galz’s vote for Swan giving you cover. The unverifiable claim is adding to it, too

And I still want this to be our fun non-serious game so I will add that your now two attempts at jokes are part of why I am willing to reconsider.

I was voting for Galz most of the day and there was no interest from anyone.

[Swowl]

But that is possible? If you’re town, you could have doctored Galz, not knowing he was scum. Maybe a different protective role was responsible for the lack of a kill. Who knows?

Sure it's possible but it's very far from what town would think of as their top 2 options...

My second would be Galz.... who Mix has now claimed to Doctor N1.
It could just be straight up as forward as skum shot at galz and galz didn't die and now Mix is L-1 so they just up and claim with no one asking them to do so.. and they claim doctor galz (because they know someone thing happened) so worst case for skum in that case they get a claim out of a PR or something.
It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.
It could also be a bunch of other stuff I guess, but that would be the 2 top options that ring out.

This is the whole quote. Are the first things that come to mind that "one is scum", really? No, he clearly meant to say that Galz was town. And if not then it makes no sense as town!Swan to say it like this. Almost like he knows Galzria is scum so he's putting it as an option.

No slip. The situations i laid out were the ones I meant to. Also, your flailing a bit of your reaching for stuff Like that.

[MiX]

But that is possible? If you’re town, you could have doctored Galz, not knowing he was scum. Maybe a different protective role was responsible for the lack of a kill. Who knows?

Sure it's possible but it's very far from what town would think of as their top 2 options...

My second would be Galz.... who Mix has now claimed to Doctor N1.
It could just be straight up as forward as skum shot at galz and galz didn't die and now Mix is L-1 so they just up and claim with no one asking them to do so.. and they claim doctor galz (because they know someone thing happened) so worst case for skum in that case they get a claim out of a PR or something.
It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.
It could also be a bunch of other stuff I guess, but that would be the 2 top options that ring out.

This is the whole quote. Are the first things that come to mind that "one is scum", really? No, he clearly meant to say that Galz was town. And if not then it makes no sense as town!Swan to say it like this. Almost like he knows Galzria is scum so he's putting it as an option.

No slip. The situations i laid out were the ones I meant to. Also, your flailing a bit of your reaching for stuff Like that.

That makes no sense from a town!Swan perspective. I can't say it better: you wouldn't tunnel like this, you wouldn't think like this, etc etc. What do you want me to do.

This is to everyone else too by the way.

[Galzria]

I still prefer Swan to MiX based on Swan’s EOD unvote yesterday.

[Swowl]

But that is possible? If you’re town, you could have doctored Galz, not knowing he was scum. Maybe a different protective role was responsible for the lack of a kill. Who knows?

Sure it's possible but it's very far from what town would think of as their top 2 options...

My second would be Galz.... who Mix has now claimed to Doctor N1.
It could just be straight up as forward as skum shot at galz and galz didn't die and now Mix is L-1 so they just up and claim with no one asking them to do so.. and they claim doctor galz (because they know someone thing happened) so worst case for skum in that case they get a claim out of a PR or something.
It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.
It could also be a bunch of other stuff I guess, but that would be the 2 top options that ring out.

This is the whole quote. Are the first things that come to mind that "one is scum", really? No, he clearly meant to say that Galz was town. And if not then it makes no sense as town!Swan to say it like this. Almost like he knows Galzria is scum so he's putting it as an option.

No slip. The situations i laid out were the ones I meant to. Also, your flailing a bit of your reaching for stuff Like that.

That makes no sense from a town!Swan perspective. I can't say it better: you wouldn't tunnel like this, you wouldn't think like this, etc etc. What do you want me to do.

This is to everyone else too by the way.

Dude you are forcing me to tunnel here.
And you are just so super wrong about my town pov... idk if that is just a mistake or what.

What do you want me to do here?

[MiX]

Flip scum??? I guess I could look upon the game one last time, clear of bias. But really it's either me or you here, right?

I'll reread Awaclus, that could be the answer...

[MiX]

Flip scum??? I guess I could look upon the game one last time, clear of bias. But really it's either me or you here, right?

I'll reread Awaclus, that could be the answer...

Eh nevermind the wagon's dead by now, okay.

[Swowl]

I still prefer Swan to MiX based on Swan’s EOD unvote yesterday.

I just don’t understand this logic.
I feel that if i were skum, assuming then that Glooble is town, that i would of moved to Glooble instead of un voting.

[MiX]

I feel like anything I do this day is overshadowed by whatever Swan flips.

I still prefer Swan to MiX based on Swan’s EOD unvote yesterday.

I just don’t understand this logic.
I feel that if i were skum, assuming then that Glooble is town, that i would of moved to Glooble instead of un voting.

No because you're buddying him in the hood. Town!Swan votes literally anywhere else, not unvote.

[Swowl]

I feel like anything I do this day is overshadowed by whatever Swan flips.

I still prefer Swan to MiX based on Swan’s EOD unvote yesterday.

I just don’t understand this logic.
I feel that if i were skum, assuming then that Glooble is town, that i would of moved to Glooble instead of un voting.

No because you're buddying him in the hood. Town!Swan votes literally anywhere else, not unvote.

I do not get how you think it is more likely i would risk standing out than stay on the wagon.
You keep saying “town!swan” would do this and that.... aside from some the in accurate assumptions... why would i do it if i were skum?

[shraeye]

It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.

This is a slip. Swan and Galzria are scum together. That's my non-Swan case, but obviously it's off Swan being scum. Swan does not play the way he is playing as town, at all.

I don’t see the slip.

Me neither, not at all.  Town v town sounds like more town v town.  Give me something else, people these lunches auck

[shraeye]

Like, swan.  Imagine it's a world where it's NOT mix.  Who then?

Mix, imagine a world where DatSwan is confirmed town, who then.  Honestly, I've seen enough of the back and forth that I'm just skipping it now.

[MiX]

I feel like anything I do this day is overshadowed by whatever Swan flips.

I still prefer Swan to MiX based on Swan’s EOD unvote yesterday.

I just don’t understand this logic.
I feel that if i were skum, assuming then that Glooble is town, that i would of moved to Glooble instead of un voting.

No because you're buddying him in the hood. Town!Swan votes literally anywhere else, not unvote.

I do not get how you think it is more likely i would risk standing out than stay on the wagon.
You keep saying “town!swan” would do this and that.... aside from some the in accurate assumptions... why would i do it if i were skum?

Why you would unvote as scum? Why not? I'm more and more thinking about a town!Glooble world (which makes much more sense than you both being scum and neighbors, from what the hood's looking like), so scum!Swan can do anything at all. If you're scum, voting and unvoting is the same, but if you're town it is very much NOT the same. So, yeah, town!Swan has a much lower chance of unvoting there than scum!Swan simply because scum!Swan doesn't care.

Does that make sense to everyone? This is the crutch of my case. That and your Awaclus case didn't make sense to me but that could very well be a misunderstanding. Actually I'll go over that next post.

It could also be Galz is skum that got doctored and Mix is town Doctor.

This is a slip. Swan and Galzria are scum together. That's my non-Swan case, but obviously it's off Swan being scum. Swan does not play the way he is playing as town, at all.

I don’t see the slip.

Me neither, not at all.  Town v town sounds like more town v town.  Give me something else, people these lunches auck

Start something else then. It's clear town as a whole isn't moving from this, be the change you want to see. I won't because my vote has no power, but you can.

Like, swan.  Imagine it's a world where it's NOT mix.  Who then?

Mix, imagine a world where DatSwan is confirmed town, who then.  Honestly, I've seen enough of the back and forth that I'm just skipping it now.

Didds, probably.

[shraeye]

Jesus, that took you like, 5 seconds to come up with that??  Glad to know it was on your mind.

[shraeye]

Let's talk Galz, is he even in the game? I don't really rembet nothing from. From him

[Swowl]

MiX - i think your crutch is not right. But I’m not walking out any more defenses... i believe anyone as skum would be far more concerned about doing something out of the ordinary.

Shraeye - already stated it was Awaclus, Galz, WCD. WCD not a fan of today just bc of read reasons. My Awaclus case is admittedly weak and got no traction. And now mix has claimed doctor on Galz... and we had no death. So in a world where MiX is town... unless we had something else that prevented the NK... Galz kind of has to be town there yeah? So IDK.

[shraeye]

Yeah, I'm admittedly not thanking deep on this game, but I appreciate your thoughts.  I'm in on Awaclus, sure.

[shraeye]

My surface read of you both is obbtown, my basically read of most people is "ate they in the game?'. But you and mix are loud and easy slti see.

I've also noticed Didds and raerae, feeling towny on them.  Ba xx ialky old lynch anywonr else

[shraeye]

Vote : awaclus

[Swowl]

Flight taking off.

I am fine with Vote: Awaclus

As the alternative to mix. Or myself.

[MiX]

Hmm...self pres activated?

Vote: Awaclus, but honestly I think he's town.

[MiX]

My surface read of you both is obbtown, my basically read of most people is "ate they in the game?'. But you and mix are loud and easy slti see.

I've also noticed Didds and raerae, feeling towny on them.  Ba xx ialky old lynch anywonr else

Vote : awaclus

How drunk are you shraeye?

[raerae]

My surface read of you both is obbtown, my basically read of most people is "ate they in the game?'. But you and mix are loud and easy slti see.

I've also noticed Didds and raerae, feeling towny on them.  Ba xx ialky old lynch anywonr else

Vote : awaclus

How drunk are you shraeye?

Very. I'm calling an AMA on his behalf.

[WestCoastDidds]

I’m out with the fam today, but I’ll be able to and move my vote, if necessary, this evening.

[shraeye]

I’m out with the fam today, but I’ll be able to and move my vote, if necessary, this evening.

Do it, you silly billy

[WestCoastDidds]

Has someone done a vote count?

[MiX]

Has someone done a vote count?

Should be...

MiX (3): Jimmmmm, raerae, WestCoastDidds(L-2)
DatSwan (3): Awaclus, Galzria, MiX (L-2)
Awaclus (3): Glooble, shraeye, Swan (L-2)

If I can read.

[WestCoastDidds]

Thanks, Mix.  And deadline is in like 13 hours. And I am a couple of hours away from bed.

Ughhhh.... that spread makes me nervous. I still wish we were considering Galz, but since we are not I will vote: Awaclus. That's L-1.

[Galzria]

The Awaclus crash is scummy af and I will not be a part of it. It’s been strong armed with no case at/near deadline to pull away from both MiX & Swan. This is a Town lynch 100% of the time.

[raerae]

The Awaclus crash is scummy af and I will not be a part of it. It’s been strong armed with no case at/near deadline to pull away from both MiX & Swan. This is a Town lynch 100% of the time.

So you think two of the neighbros are scum?

[Swowl]

The Awaclus crash is scummy af and I will not be a part of it. It’s been strong armed with no case at/near deadline to pull away from both MiX & Swan. This is a Town lynch 100% of the time.

It def has not been strong armed. I admitted previously it was weak to begin with. The fact that MiX could be town doc, and if they are they targeted you, combined with the fact that there was no night kill... that is what made it interesting.

I get you think I am skum so that doesn't really mean much. but that is my 2 cents.

[Glooble]

unvote while I look at some stuff. Not ready for Awaclus to get hammered.

I will be awake at deadline.

[Swowl]

The Awaclus crash is scummy af and I will not be a part of it. It’s been strong armed with no case at/near deadline to pull away from both MiX & Swan. This is a Town lynch 100% of the time.

So you think two of the neighbros are scum?

calling us the neighbros from here on in btw.

[Swowl]

deadline wise - I will be around for like 6 hours (6 hours before DL) and then it is middle night here, so I will be out.

If anyone wants to talk lets talk now.

[Glooble]

Would you consider switching back to MiX?

[Galzria]

The Awaclus crash is scummy af and I will not be a part of it. It’s been strong armed with no case at/near deadline to pull away from both MiX & Swan. This is a Town lynch 100% of the time.

It def has not been strong armed. I admitted previously it was weak to begin with. The fact that MiX could be town doc, and if they are they targeted you, combined with the fact that there was no night kill... that is what made it interesting.

I get you think I am skum so that doesn't really mean much. but that is my 2 cents.

The Awaclus crash is scummy af and I will not be a part of it. It’s been strong armed with no case at/near deadline to pull away from both MiX & Swan. This is a Town lynch 100% of the time.

So you think two of the neighbros are scum?

I think one neighbor is, almost certainly! 

No, I don’t think both are. But I honestly believe this style of hard crash within 12 hours of deadline is 100% of the time scum driven and on a Town player.

Basically, MiX hasn’t been lynched, despite sitting at L-1 for awhile now, with a solid second wagon. And now, out of nowhere, because neither of those wagons happened, Awaclus hits L-1? Like... in what world does scum sit on TWO Town wagons while not slamming either of them, to then let their partner spring up and get lynched last minute?

It’s ridiculous.

[Swowl]

Would you consider switching back to MiX?

obviously.

[Glooble]

vote: MiX

[WestCoastDidds]

Glooble...you’re the only neighbor I really trust. MiX over Swan?

[Glooble]

I think so.

My guts been saying that claim was fishy AF since he made it, I just didn’t want to risk lynching a doctor. But Galz is right, the Awaclus wagon feels like a mislynch. My case on him was admittedly weak and then I think everyone piled on because I had a vote there, but no one is giving any real reasons other not wanting to vote the other two wagons.

[Glooble]

I really need to go to bed.

[Glooble]

This is feeling really serious for a goofy/ fun joth game. I really hope we can figure out what the ridiculous gimmick is soon.

[Swowl]

I think so.

My guts been saying that claim was fishy AF since he made it, I just didn’t want to risk lynching a doctor. But Galz is right, the Awaclus wagon feels like a mislynch. My case on him was admittedly weak and then I think everyone piled on because I had a vote there, but no one is giving any real reasons other not wanting to vote the other two wagons.

So if you are town...

Then you are on Awaclus - Town

Shraeye went Awaclus - If I am skum then why not just hammer MiX? So Shraeye protecting MiX? But that doesn't make sense either because why wouldn't they put us both at L-1 previously?

I went awaclus - I am/was the one pushing it

WCD jumps on Awaclus - IDK what to make of that it is weird. Def moves WCD onto the radar. Also, trusting glooble is weird from my pov.. as one of the three of us in the hood could be skum.

[Swowl]

MiX - Glooble thoughts?

[WestCoastDidds]

WCD jumps on Awaclus - IDK what to make of that it is weird. Def moves WCD onto the radar. Also, trusting glooble is weird from my pov.. as one of the three of us in the hood could be skum.

I’m distracted. I’ve been parenting and drinking and making gingerbread houses. It would a mistake to think I have playing today with intention or real thought. Weird is right!

I moved to Awa because MiX had been at L-1 forever and no one was willing to hammer their buddy...and he’s active so I get it.

Galz is scum, and Galz swooping in to defend Awa is scummdiliicious. (I recognize that Galz is doing that not vice verse) MiX’s unadulterated Galz adulation is also supper scummy. Three scum is too many, right? Because that’s a freaking team right there.

I need to put the kid to bed and then myself to bed, but I’ll be here before deadline in the morning and can move to MiX if that that is what we need to lynch. My scummiest list is Galz> MiX > Awa > Awa

[jotheonah]

"If we kill a random person for no reason, we are no better than the scummy anti-town mafia," someone says. "If we do that, then we are the real mafia."

"Lynch him, he says he's the real mafia!" someone else shouts.

Vote Count 2.4


MiX (3): Jimmmmm, raerae, Glooble (L-2)
DatSwan (3): Awaclus, Galzria, MiX (L-2)
Awaclus (3): shraeye, DatSwan, WestCoastDidds (L-2)

Not voting (0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Sunday, December 8 at 9 am EST.

[WestCoastDidds]

This is feeling really serious for a goofy/ fun joth game. I really hope we can figure out what the ridiculous gimmick is soon.

Glooble....any thoughts on what the ridiculousness might be??

[Galzria]

WCD jumps on Awaclus - IDK what to make of that it is weird. Def moves WCD onto the radar. Also, trusting glooble is weird from my pov.. as one of the three of us in the hood could be skum.

I’m distracted. I’ve been parenting and drinking and making gingerbread houses. It would a mistake to think I have playing today with intention or real thought. Weird is right!

I moved to Awa because MiX had been at L-1 forever and no one was willing to hammer their buddy...and he’s active so I get it.

Galz is scum, and Galz swooping in to defend Awa is scummdiliicious. (I recognize that Galz is doing that not vice verse) MiX’s unadulterated Galz adulation is also supper scummy. Three scum is too many, right? Because that’s a freaking team right there.

I need to put the kid to bed and then myself to bed, but I’ll be here before deadline in the morning and can move to MiX if that that is what we need to lynch. My scummiest list is Galz> MiX > Awa > Awa

Almost the entirety of this post is laughable (the kids, drinking and ginger bread houses are A+. The rest though...)

First, you’ve been hard tunneling me the entire day, but you’ve yet to make a case beyond “because I say so” - not that a case would matter, as it’s just as wrong as “because I say so”.

Second, you’ve called my “swooping in” as “scumdilliciious”, yet my point is spot on, and you fail to address it in it’s entirety - continuing your “because I say so” trend from above. Just because you say something often enough doesn’t make it true.

Third, if MiX is telling the truth about being a Doctor and targeting me last night, then *I* was highly likely to have been the scum kill target night 1 - thus rendering me NOT scum. Yet place a Galz/Awa scum team above a Galz/MiD scum team? Like... what logic is this even?

Fourth... I need a new drink. Somebody drank my last two. Excuse me.

[Swowl]

WCD jumps on Awaclus - IDK what to make of that it is weird. Def moves WCD onto the radar. Also, trusting glooble is weird from my pov.. as one of the three of us in the hood could be skum.

I’m distracted. I’ve been parenting and drinking and making gingerbread houses. It would a mistake to think I have playing today with intention or real thought. Weird is right!

I moved to Awa because MiX had been at L-1 forever and no one was willing to hammer their buddy...and he’s active so I get it.

Galz is scum, and Galz swooping in to defend Awa is scummdiliicious. (I recognize that Galz is doing that not vice verse) MiX’s unadulterated Galz adulation is also supper scummy. Three scum is too many, right? Because that’s a freaking team right there.

I need to put the kid to bed and then myself to bed, but I’ll be here before deadline in the morning and can move to MiX if that that is what we need to lynch. My scummiest list is Galz> MiX > Awa > Awa

Almost the entirety of this post is laughable (the kids, drinking and ginger bread houses are A+. The rest though...)

First, you’ve been hard tunneling me the entire day, but you’ve yet to make a case beyond “because I say so” - not that a case would matter, as it’s just as wrong as “because I say so”.

Second, you’ve called my “swooping in” as “scumdilliciious”, yet my point is spot on, and you fail to address it in it’s entirety - continuing your “because I say so” trend from above. Just because you say something often enough doesn’t make it true.

Third, if MiX is telling the truth about being a Doctor and targeting me last night, then *I* was highly likely to have been the scum kill target night 1 - thus rendering me NOT scum. Yet place a Galz/Awa scum team above a Galz/MiD scum team? Like... what logic is this even?

Fourth... I need a new drink. Somebody drank my last two. Excuse me.

1) How were they tunnelling? They were voting Mix all day.

2) when you post three times a game day anything you say is "swooping in" you brought that on yourself.

3) That is fair

4) You drank them. I watched. You still owe me a plate.

[MiX]

Basically, MiX hasn’t been lynched, despite sitting at L-1 for awhile now, with a solid second wagon. And now, out of nowhere, because neither of those wagons happened, Awaclus hits L-1? Like... in what world does scum sit on TWO Town wagons while not slamming either of them, to then let their partner spring up and get lynched last minute?

Pretty much any time there's 2 town wagons this happens, right? So you think 2 town wagons don't stall? Because I would say this is exactly the type of game for wagons to stall out forever.

This is feeling really serious for a goofy/ fun joth game. I really hope we can figure out what the ridiculous gimmick is soon.

Glooble....any thoughts on what the ridiculousness might be??

Ridiculousness seems to be at least about the quantity of NKs, at least from my role and the SK commuter flip.

1) How were they tunnelling? They were voting Mix all day.

Didds was voting Galzria earlier in the day.


But overall I do think the Awaclus wagon isn't hitting scum, and a wagon that is more likely to hit scum that isn't Swan is Didds...but I don't think there's enough votes for that.

[WestCoastDidds]

Almost the entirety of this post is laughable (the kids, drinking and ginger bread houses are A+. The rest though...)

First, you’ve been hard tunneling me the entire day, but you’ve yet to make a case beyond “because I say so” - not that a case would matter, as it’s just as wrong as “because I say so”.

Second, you’ve called my “swooping in” as “scumdilliciious”, yet my point is spot on, and you fail to address it in it’s entirety - continuing your “because I say so” trend from above. Just because you say something often enough doesn’t make it true.

Third, if MiX is telling the truth about being a Doctor and targeting me last night, then *I* was highly likely to have been the scum kill target night 1 - thus rendering me NOT scum. Yet place a Galz/Awa scum team above a Galz/MiD scum team? Like... what logic is this even?

Fourth... I need a new drink. Somebody drank my last two. Excuse me.

I’m okay with laughable! Entertaining is an adjective I aspire to achieve. Also, my gingerbread house if f-ing on point. Color coordination, yo.

No one has asked why I was voting for you. Not a single person. So, no reason to say. When people are ready to consider that you are scum, I’ll chime in.

I do not believe MiX’s claim that you were doctored. I have a different reason to believe that there was no NK. So, your logic about why you are not scum doesn’t work for me.

Mmmmm....drinks! What were you drinking? I think it is interesting that the longer a pan evening persists, the more likely it is that drinks seem to vanish. Perhaps it is elves. But maybe that is just me.

[WestCoastDidds]

"If we kill a random person for no reason, we are no better than the scummy anti-town mafia," someone says. "If we do that, then we are the real mafia."

"Lynch him, he says he's the real mafia!" someone else shouts.

Vote Count 2.4


MiX (3): Jimmmmm, raerae, Glooble (L-2)
DatSwan (3): Awaclus, Galzria, MiX (L-2)
Awaclus (3): shraeye, DatSwan, WestCoastDidds (L-2)

Not voting (0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Sunday, December 8 at 9 am EST.

So, that in 50 minutes. Currently we no lynch. Who is around?

[Jimmmmm]

So, that in 50 minutes. Currently we no lynch. Who is around?

I'm around. Probably for less than 50 minutes though.

[raerae]

Almost the entirety of this post is laughable (the kids, drinking and ginger bread houses are A+. The rest though...)

First, you’ve been hard tunneling me the entire day, but you’ve yet to make a case beyond “because I say so” - not that a case would matter, as it’s just as wrong as “because I say so”.

Second, you’ve called my “swooping in” as “scumdilliciious”, yet my point is spot on, and you fail to address it in it’s entirety - continuing your “because I say so” trend from above. Just because you say something often enough doesn’t make it true.

Third, if MiX is telling the truth about being a Doctor and targeting me last night, then *I* was highly likely to have been the scum kill target night 1 - thus rendering me NOT scum. Yet place a Galz/Awa scum team above a Galz/MiD scum team? Like... what logic is this even?

Fourth... I need a new drink. Somebody drank my last two. Excuse me.

I’m okay with laughable! Entertaining is an adjective I aspire to achieve. Also, my gingerbread house if f-ing on point. Color coordination, yo.

No one has asked why I was voting for you. Not a single person. So, no reason to say. When people are ready to consider that you are scum, I’ll chime in.

I do not believe MiX’s claim that you were doctored. I have a different reason to believe that there was no NK. So, your logic about why you are not scum doesn’t work for me.

Mmmmm....drinks! What were you drinking? I think it is interesting that the longer a pan evening persists, the more likely it is that drinks seem to vanish. Perhaps it is elves. But maybe that is just me.

Gingerbread pics or it didn't happen.

What's your NK theory? Why don't you believe MiX?

[WestCoastDidds]

Hi Jimmmmm....

How are the JimBros liking Mafia?

[Jimmmmm]

Hi Jimmmmm....

How are the JimBros liking Mafia?

Hi Didds! Well they keep getting lynched, so there's that. Two of them are or have been away so I think they've been finding it difficult to keep up. I'm hoping they stick around for more, but we'll see.

[WestCoastDidds]

The house that WCD built...

https://ibb.co/KV9PrsR

[WestCoastDidds]

The house that WCD built...

https://ibb.co/KV9PrsR

Or rather...
https://ibb.co/Lh65d4Q

[Jimmmmm]

"That page doesn't exist
The requested page was not found."

[Jimmmmm]

Nevermind... nice!

[Glooble]

I overslept but I’m here now.

[WestCoastDidds]

Raerae, I think Galz was prevented from killing, not doctored back to health.

I guess MiX could have doctored him, but that isn’t what prevented the kill. I just don’t know what reason we have to believe MiX and his neighborhood seems suspicious of him, so I’m leaning on their read

Vote: MiX L-1

[raerae]

The house that WCD built...

https://ibb.co/KV9PrsR

Or rather...
https://ibb.co/Lh65d4Q

Daaaaannnnnggggg, that's adorable!

[WestCoastDidds]

Of course everyone awake already voted for MiX so I’m not sure that is helpful.

Good morning, Glooble! Do you drink coffee? Coffee is the best?

[raerae]

I overslept but I’m here now.

We support your need for sleep. You really wanna kill your neighbro?

[MiX]

I'm around and will vote stuff.

Didds' thing is interesting, but I think she's scum. As in, I believe her but she's scum. That's my read, take it or leave it.

[WestCoastDidds]

Or rather...
https://ibb.co/Lh65d4Q

Daaaaannnnnggggg, that's adorable!

In fairness, the house was already done. I just had to decorate it. If I had to build a house we’d be looking at an iced hovel

[MiX]

The house that WCD built...

https://ibb.co/KV9PrsR

Or rather...
https://ibb.co/Lh65d4Q

Daaaaannnnnggggg, that's adorable!

It's pretty pretty, yeah.

[raerae]

Or rather...
https://ibb.co/Lh65d4Q

Daaaaannnnnggggg, that's adorable!

In fairness, the house was already done. I just had to decorate it. If I had to build a house we’d be looking at an iced hovel

Delicious and keeps out some elements, still acceptable. We're doing one with h-bomb later today or maybe after finals. That definitely won't be a mess, I'm sure.

[WestCoastDidds]

Thanks, MiX!

[Jimmmmm]

I went to that other game with a similar name by mistake and boy was I confused.

[Glooble]

Of course everyone awake already voted for MiX so I’m not sure that is helpful.

Good morning, Glooble! Do you drink coffee? Coffee is the best?

Yes, heading out for Coffee and donuts soon.

I overslept but I’m here now.

We support your need for sleep. You really wanna kill your neighbro?

Unless you have a better suggestion that we can make happen in the next 23 minutes. My gut has a long history of misreading MiX, so I’m a little nervous (hence my not hammering when I had the chance) but this is what we’ve got right now.

[WestCoastDidds]

I don’t see how we break the stasis we are currently in....

Ideas?

[WestCoastDidds]

I jailkept Galz last night. Unless someone blocked me, that is my best reason that was no NK. 

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: Galz

[raerae]

Of course everyone awake already voted for MiX so I’m not sure that is helpful.

Good morning, Glooble! Do you drink coffee? Coffee is the best?

Yes, heading out for Coffee and donuts soon.

I overslept but I’m here now.

We support your need for sleep. You really wanna kill your neighbro?

Unless you have a better suggestion that we can make happen in the next 23 minutes. My gut has a long history of misreading MiX, so I’m a little nervous (hence my not hammering when I had the chance) but this is what we’ve got right now.

Yeah, I feel like I'm 50/50 on him so this feels pretty meh. My normal stance is to let a claimed doctor live a day and see what happens but I'm not sold on anybody else either.

[MiX]

Best lynch rn is Didds I think. I think she's trying really hard to crumb, and it feels like a plan someone else would make, not her.

Of course, I will vote anywhere, I think the odds of Doc-ing someone tonight are relatively high, and if I'm NKd ny flip should help solve the game.

I jailkept Galz last night. Unless someone blocked me, that is my best reason that was no NK. 

Yeah I could tell, but that means you're scum and Galz isn't,  and thus I think Swan isn't.

Vote: Didds

[raerae]

I jailkept Galz last night. Unless someone blocked me, that is my best reason that was no NK.

Well, golly gee gurrll, that's fun!

Vote: Galz

[WestCoastDidds]

Dude, you know that if I were scum, I’d have killed you

[Glooble]

MiX, not following your logic here.

[WestCoastDidds]

I jailkept Galz last night. Unless someone blocked me, that is my best reason that was no NK.

Well, golly gee gurrll, that's fun!

Vote: Galz

I know, right?!

[raerae]

Oh hell, MiX, don't make me change my mind. Crumbing isn't scummy and why is jailkeeping?

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX, not following your logic here.

MiX thinks I am not smart enough to have blocked Galz and then not told anyone

[Glooble]

Jailkeeper is a good fakeclaim for a roleblocker, but that really doesn’t make sense in this situation.

[WestCoastDidds]

Also, MiX choosing not to consolidate the votes on a wagon that is not him is super sketch to me

[Glooble]

Good point.

We have 10 minutes.

vote: Galz

I’d still rather lynch MiX, for the record. But there’s strong partner vibes.

Jimmmm? Someone else who happens to be online?

[MiX]

Dude, you know that if I were scum, I’d have killed you

Naaaah...wait maybe.

The odds of Galz being scum are also incredibly high to be honest, I would be surprised if Didds and Galz aren't both scum of different teams

Vote: Galzria

Also, MiX choosing not to consolidate the votes on a wagon that is not him is super sketch to me

When did I do that? When I didn't vote Awaclus? I'm the only one hammering him.

[MiX]

L-1?

[Jimmmmm]

Sorry, I'm back. Intent to hammer.

[WestCoastDidds]

Yeah, L-1.

The consolidation thing....I was talking about voting for me just now instead of Galz

[raerae]

Jailkeeper is a good fakeclaim for a roleblocker, but that really doesn’t make sense in this situation.

Paired with her not being under pressure here, I buy it.  Plus Didds is terrible liar (no offense), I can't see her fake claiming and certainly not this early in the game.

[WestCoastDidds]

I am a terrible liar. True fact.

[raerae]

I am a terrible liar. True fact.

More than a small part of me wants this to be a lie just for the irony.

[MiX]

Yeah, L-1.

The consolidation thing....I was talking about voting for me just now instead of Galz

Oh okay, yeah obviously I then voted Galz ok.

Jailkeeper is a good fakeclaim for a roleblocker, but that really doesn’t make sense in this situation.

Paired with her not being under pressure here, I buy it.  Plus Didds is terrible liar (no offense), I can't see her fake claiming and certainly not this early in the game.

That's what a scumteam's for.

I am a terrible liar. True fact.

I objectively do not know.

[WestCoastDidds]

I am a terrible liar. True fact.

More than a small part of me wants this to be a lie just for the irony.

Ha! I’m also too freaking earnest to do irony well.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Galz

[MiX]

Vote: Galz

Is that hammer???

[raerae]

Vote: Galz

Is that hammer???

That's why he announced intent.

[MiX]

Vote: Galz

Is that hammer???

That's why he announced intent.

Fair...still crazy.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Galz

Is that hammer???

That's why he announced intent.

Fair...still crazy.

Too early in the Day?

[raerae]

Vote: Galz

Is that hammer???

That's why he announced intent.

Fair...still crazy.

Too early in the Day?

Ziiiiinnnnnnggggggg!!!!!

[MiX]

More like I'm surprised I'm alive at all.

I need a moment to breathe...

[MiX]

PPE: It is a good Zing!

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX...it’s a Christmas miracle! ❤️❤️❤️

[WestCoastDidds]

The rest of the village...

https://ibb.co/DQ7mR0T
https://ibb.co/Lh65d4Q
https://ibb.co/M1WZMSf

[WestCoastDidds]

Although in fairness, I should do side views. That’s where all the candy is...

[MiX]

Although in fairness, I should do side views. That’s where all the candy is...

Objective criticism: the third house looks worse than the other 2. I think you're onto why.

[raerae]

I'm jamming on the marshmallow snow!

[jotheonah]

Y’all may be in for a longish twilight. Sorry.

[raerae]

Y’all may be in for a longish twilight. Sorry.

joth likes gingerbread house talk, obvs.

[Awaclus]

Oh shit, I was super busy with school work today and apparently the entire day played out in the meantime. Oh well, I guess I'm still alive at least.

[Awaclus]

I suppose deadline was coming up anyway.

[WestCoastDidds]

Awa, I didn’t realize you were a student! What are you studying? Happy almost end of the term!

[WestCoastDidds]

All right...

WCD house
https://ibb.co/fQsbRMN
https://ibb.co/12ftt9Z
https://ibb.co/FgQ1F7G
https://ibb.co/2ndq0c2

DJ Rock (our kid)
https://ibb.co/hcpt4Nw
https://ibb.co/41Tvg3m
https://ibb.co/WxDMDky
https://ibb.co/sgkPsmt

Debatepro
https://ibb.co/Bf8xbN5
https://ibb.co/5vRsfN4
https://ibb.co/JtbqDTR
https://ibb.co/M6fNdJ1

His reindeer is pretty awesome!

[WestCoastDidds]

Thank you, Joth, for gingerbread twilight!!

[raerae]

Do the Christmas candy corns taste like candy corn or peppermint?

[MiX]

I did it! I said Debatepro's house looked worse in an objective way! My life is complete. Then again it's all about the roof, which was hard to see in the first pic you sent.

This is indeed the best twilight EVER!

[Awaclus]

Awa, I didn’t realize you were a student! What are you studying? Happy almost end of the term!

BBA in computer science. Thanks!

[WestCoastDidds]

I did it! I said Debatepro's house looked worse in an objective way! My life is complete. Then again it's all about the roof, which was hard to see in the first pic you sent.

This is indeed the best twilight EVER!

Again, a Christmas miracle!!

DebatePro’s house suffered from overthinking. He wanted to do something different but he couldn’t decide on what...and then time was up

[WestCoastDidds]

Awa, I didn’t realize you were a student! What are you studying? Happy almost end of the term!

BBA in computer science. Thanks!

That’s awesome!! And what an interesting field of study. Coolness

[WestCoastDidds]

Do the Christmas candy corns taste like candy corn or peppermint?

Regular candy corn. You’re not technically supposed to eat the candy, but you know...rules schmules

How is Shraeye this morning? Did the day drinking catch up with him?

[raerae]

Do the Christmas candy corns taste like candy corn or peppermint?

Regular candy corn. You’re not technically supposed to eat the candy, but you know...rules schmules

How is Shraeye this morning? Did the day drinking catch up with him?

He woke up at 6am and decided to make blueberry muffins from scratch so I might encourage day drinking in the future more than I usually do! 

What good is candy you aren't supposed to eat?  Pshhhh.

[jotheonah]

"I know it seems rough,” said Glooble, tying the noose knot, “But this will all be worth it when we go to sleep and have a nice, quiet, murder-free night!”

“You mean like the one WE JUST HAD that everyone has been complaining about all day?” Galzria asks.

“Like that, but better,” says WestCoastDidds. “Now stand on the platform please.”

Vote Count 2.5


DatSwan (2): Awaclus, Galzria
Awaclus (2): shraeye, DatSwan
Galzria (5): WestCoastDidds, raerae, Glooble, MiX, Jimmmmm (hammer!)


Not voting (0):

Galzria has been lynched! He was a Scummy Antitown Mafia Commuter Enabler

Night 2 begins now and will end in 48 hours.

THREAD LOCKED

[jotheonah]

"So the town wants chaos? Let's give them chaos" says a shadowy figure at the nightly meeting of the Scum Club.

"But last night, when we tried to murder everyone, the people we tried to murder kept ending up in jail! Or else the murderers did! Or both"

...

Across town at the Mafia Lounge, a similar conversation is going down.

"Who should we send our corrupt jailkeeper to lock up tonight boss, one of ours or one of somebody else's?"

...

And at the Anti-Town HotSpot, the same thing.

"Boss, I tried to jailkeep MiX like you said, but there were two other jailkeepers there. It was awkward."

Nonetheless, in the morning, when the smoke clears, many murders have been accomplished.

shraeye, Awaclus, and Glooble have been nightkilled. Shraeye and Awaclus were Scummy Anti-Town Mafia Jailkeepers and Glooble was a Scummy Anti-Town Mafia Neighbor.

GAME OVER

MiX, a Scummy Anti-Town Mafia Neighbor and raerae, a Scummy Anti-Town Mafia Commuter Enabler have been endgamed. They were, with shraeye, the Mafia Team..

Galzria, Awaclus, and Glooble were the  Scum Team.

The Anti-Town Team of WestCoastDidds, Jimmmmm, and DatSwan has won.

Town never existed.

[jotheonah]

Thanks everybody. This was a fun experiment, though it ended up weird. Reading all of your QTs was extremely hilarious, especially when you all started figuring it out. Here's some links:

Neighborhood
Mafia QT
Scum QT
Anti-Town QT
Speccy

Night Actions

More thoughts to come.

[MiX]

Son of a...!

Drats.

[raerae]

MiX!!  You were right!!

[MiX]

MiX!!  You were right!!

I was wrong: I thought Galzria and Swan were of the same team. I'll take the fall with the rest of us for that.

[MiX]

"One person has more or less figured out the setup. That should work to their advantage." - joth (in speccy)

Was that just me? I was thinking about 3 scumteams almost all of Day 2, anyone else doing the same?

Also, no one likes to hammer a Doctor! So proud of that.

[raerae]

MiX!!  You were right!!

I was wrong: I thought Galzria and Swan were of the same team. I'll take the fall with the rest of us for that.

Yeah but if we'd shot Didds instead of Awaclus I think the day would have opened.  Joth, is that true?

[Awaclus]

That’s awesome!! And what an interesting field of study. Coolness

Why is CS interesting?

[Glooble]

Dammit, joth.

[MiX]

MiX!!  You were right!!

I was wrong: I thought Galzria and Swan were of the same team. I'll take the fall with the rest of us for that.

Yeah but if we'd shot Didds instead of Awaclus I think the day would have opened.  Joth, is that true?

Hindsight 20/20 of course...I would only take that as "being right" if I was right about all of the setup.

Also, SK dying D1 is such a tell for this kind of setup, I love it.

Dammit, joth.

Dammit, Glooble!

[jotheonah]

MiX!!  You were right!!

I was wrong: I thought Galzria and Swan were of the same team. I'll take the fall with the rest of us for that.

Yeah but if we'd shot Didds instead of Awaclus I think the day would have opened.  Joth, is that true?

Yes. In that case the town would be 1 from Awaclus's team and 2 from each other team. Awaclus would be in a kingmaker situation, sort of. I definitely would have run it out.

[WestCoastDidds]

So much fun, Joth!! Thank you!

[jotheonah]

Yeah, one of my big regrets was not giving SK some kind of protection against being the day 1 lynch. I didn't consider that dynamic.

Here are some other versions of the setup for different player counts btw:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11ophWHulYqKB7xF_NPuw8Tidq-o43MLdsDojg8Tr50A/edit?usp=sharing

[WestCoastDidds]

That’s awesome!! And what an interesting field of study. Coolness

Why is CS interesting?

Because it is changing really fast and matters rather dramatically in all kinds of ways.  Debatepro is in cybersecurity, and although I have only limited knowledge of what he does, it is super intriguing.  Do you find it interesting? Or when you are down in it, is it just work?

[MiX]

MiX!!  You were right!!

I was wrong: I thought Galzria and Swan were of the same team. I'll take the fall with the rest of us for that.

Yeah but if we'd shot Didds instead of Awaclus I think the day would have opened.  Joth, is that true?

Yes. In that case the town would be 1 from Awaclus's team and 2 from each other team. Awaclus would be in a kingmaker situation, sort of. I definitely would have run it out.

The whole game was a kingmaking scenario, I was this close to just outing my theory if I was hammered to help my team. But if you forget who won, the journey's great, and this game says a lot about the meta of f.ds.

One thing I don't understand...if your scumteam's called "Anti-Town" isn't that a huge tell something's wrong?

[Glooble]

I'm really disappointed in myself for not figuring it out, but in my defense, we were the only team without a scum flip to work off of.

[Glooble]

Wait so how were there 0 kills night 1?

[MiX]

So much fun, Joth!! Thank you!

Yessssssssssssssssssss

I'm really disappointed in myself for not figuring it out, but in my defense, we were the only team without a scum flip to work off of.

I wouldn't either, to be honest. Sucks that shraeye being shraeye lost us the game though (Damn you Swan).

Wait so how were there 0 kills night 1?

We shot Galz who was JK'd by Didds, Galz did his shot and Jimmmmm shot shraeye who was protected by Awaclus.

[jotheonah]

The inspiration for this setup was a friend of mine and Glooble's who loves to invite people over for Spyfall and then, after a few regular games, distracts everyone while he takes all the spy cards out of their respective decks and shuffles them up together, and then sits back cackling while he watches a game with no secret location where everyone thinks they're the spy. It's always funny.

I wanted to run a mafia version of that. I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of it. To me it feels less mean than, say, a game where everyone's town, because you actually could all win. And except for arguably mail-mi, you all had an equal chance of winning. So it was a "real" game, just not really a mafia game.

Finally, once I was committed to the bit I knew that the flavor had to be maximally tongue-in-cheek, especially in retrospect. So I made it all about town, used the word town way too much, and put town in bold green text. I also included a sample town role PM. I really thought these things would tip someone off, honestly.

Strategy-wise, my assumption would be that the best strat for mafia JKs once they figure out the setup would be to always use the jailkeep on their own team. Oddly, only one team considered/adopted this strategy. I also figured the SK would commute every night as long as they could, but mail-mi tells me he would have shot. So who knows.

Anyway, thank you for all being good sports. I was a bit worried this wouldn't go over well.

[mail-mi]

This was like my old Artists BM, that was fun to watch.

Sad that I died D1, but it is how it is.

[Glooble]

Wait, so if we had gone with our original plan and shot Didds, the day would have opened at 3 v 3 with our whole team dead?

[jotheonah]

One thing I don't understand...if your scumteam's called "Anti-Town" isn't that a huge tell something's wrong?

I thought about this a lot but couldn't come up with a good third name that wouldn't give it away. "Baddie" was in contention. But, yeah, they didn't bat an eye at it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wait so how were there 0 kills night 1?

Mostly because Galz was jailkept and he was the shooter of one nightkill and the intended victim of another. Awaclus's last-minute decision to JK shraeye blocked the third NK.

This was sort of by design, by the way. Three nightkills and three scum flips would have given away the game pretty quickly, so I added 3 JKs, which amounts to 6 chances to block the nightkill, in the hopes that we'd end up with one or two kills. But there was really no way of knowing how that would work out in practice. Zero nightkills was always a possibility, and not the worst one because it would help keep the illusion alive longer.

Without hiding or lying about the flips, the joke had a built-in expiration date. Most of the setup was just about delaying that as long as possible in creative ways.

[Glooble]

Honestly, though, including a Neighborhood was a stroke of genius.

[jotheonah]

Wait, so if we had gone with our original plan and shot Didds, the day would have opened at 3 v 3 with our whole team dead?

No, it would have been 3 v 2 just the other way around. You would have handed the win to MiX's team, rather than to Didd's team.

Your only move that would have kept you alive would have been to have Awaclus jailkeep you and forgo your nightkill, but that would be a pretty wild strat based on the info you had.

[jotheonah]

Honestly, though, including a Neighborhood was a stroke of genius.

Thank you, I was quite proud of that idea.

[MiX]

Honestly, though, including a Neighborhood was a stroke of genius.

What, exactly, were you thinking when you asked for Swan's PR in the hood?

Honestly, though, including a Neighborhood was a stroke of genius.

Thank you, I was quite proud of that idea.

Objectively the best part of the setup.

[Glooble]

Honestly, though, including a Neighborhood was a stroke of genius.

What, exactly, were you thinking when you asked for Swan's PR in the hood?

Honestly, though, including a Neighborhood was a stroke of genius.

Thank you, I was quite proud of that idea.

Objectively the best part of the setup.

I was looking for cover to hammer you.

[Glooble]

If Swan had told me he was just a neighbor, I would have hammered you, and the next day said, "Well, look, if MiX is the scum neighbor he probably didn't know that the town neighbors didn't have additional powers, that makes more sense to me than joth randomly making one neighbor a doctor."

[Glooble]

As it stood, I felt like if I hammered you and you flipped town I would have been on the chopping block the next day.

[MiX]

So everything Swan said was correct ok.

[Glooble]

So everything Swan said was correct ok.

Hey, I never claimed to be *good* at Mafia.

[WestCoastDidds]

I really, really, really liked playing a non-serious game!  Thank you all for being awesome!

[WestCoastDidds]

Mail-me is running a bastard game next, ya'll go sign up and give him some love

[jotheonah]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

[MiX]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

I'm mad that I lost 

And I hope mail-mi's mad about making him lose. But otherwise the setup was great and it ended at the perfect time too.

[jotheonah]

I don't think a day 1 mail-mi lynch was a fait accompli. But I do think it was a more likely outcome than I would have liked, and I'm mad that I didn't think about it. Too focused on night actions vs. day dynamics.

[Glooble]

I'm not mad at you for trolling, I'm mad at myself for not figuring it out.

[WestCoastDidds]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

No way!  It was fun! And not-serious! Which is right on brand for finals week for me. And so many of my favorite, favorites were playing (Eddie....where are youuuuuu?) A good time all around.

[Awaclus]

Because it is changing really fast and matters rather dramatically in all kinds of ways.  Debatepro is in cybersecurity, and although I have only limited knowledge of what he does, it is super intriguing.  Do you find it interesting? Or when you are down in it, is it just work?

Well, I am studying it because it's an important field, and I'm interested in doing something that actually matters. Cyber security is definitely one of the most compelling careers for me for that reason. I don't hate the actual substance of the field by any means and I think I can learn it relatively effortlessly, but e.g. understanding the pros and cons of linked lists and array lists is not something that I find inherently fascinating, it's just a necessary evil to accomplish a goal. I do music production on the side as a hobby and a way to earn some extra income, and I'm much more intrigued by the equivalent minor everyday technicalities there, but obviously the downside of music is that there are like a thousand people doing it per every music professional we actually have any use for in society, so I would feel like I'm wasting my life if I focused exclusively on that.

[Awaclus]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

Well, I'm a little mad about being trolled as the faction that didn't get any hints about it until the game was over. It would have been more fun otherwise.

[Awaclus]

Just a little though, it was pretty fun to read through the other QTs.

[raerae]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

I loved it!

[raerae]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

I suggested killing him until MiX pointed out he's not playing...

No way!  It was fun! And not-serious! Which is right on brand for finals week for me. And so many of my favorite, favorites were playing (Eddie....where are youuuuuu?) A good time all around.

[raerae]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

I suggested killing him until MiX pointed out he's not playing...

No way!  It was fun! And not-serious! Which is right on brand for finals week for me. And so many of my favorite, favorites were playing (Eddie....where are youuuuuu?) A good time all around.

Successful quote.

[shraeye]

So *NOBODY* is mad about being trolled?

I love being trolled!

[silverspawn]

It's over? I practically slept through the entire thing.

[jotheonah]

Maybe the setup would have been more fun if the commuter enablers were traitors?

[WestCoastDidds]

Good morning, Silver!

[WestCoastDidds]

Also, let’s not get that Raptor definitely should have been lynched. And someone owes Swan a plate.

[Swowl]

Also, let’s not get that Raptor definitely should have been lynched. And someone owes Swan a plate.

word.

also it was a fun game joth, thanks for making it.

I think if you ever wanted to run it on a larger scale you could totally tweak some stuff to make a "no town" big RMM of sorts.

I would totally be down to play that

[jotheonah]

I think the day phase looks very different in an open no town setup.

[silverspawn]

You say that, but we both know this game is really all about the night phase.