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The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« on: August 14, 2012, 07:18:46 pm »
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Exactly 30 submissions, here is the overview. I think no-one will really go over the whole list. So I post many numbers here, I hope this isn't too much. But categorized seems much more interesting than just a plain list.

Top 10 kingdom:
#1 Monument ▲19, #2 Menagerie ▲1, #3 Fishing Village ▼2, #4 Tactician ▲23, #5 Wharf ▼1, #6 Apprentice ▲7, #7 Bishop ▼5, #8 Horn of Plenty ▲18, #9 Highway ▲13, #10 Steward ▲9

The previous ranked #5-#10 are this time on: #14 Salvager ▼5, #19 Hamlet ▼13, #25 Laboratory ▼15, #30 Grand Market ▼23, #39 Venture ▼30, #62 Governor ▼57

Bottom 10 kingdom:
#157 Transmute ▼7, #156 Treasure Map ▼8, #155 Scout ▼28, #154 Secret Chamber ▲1, #153 Familiar ▼35, #152 Duchess ▲5, #151 Woodcutter ▼5, #150 Fortune Teller ▼12, #149 Navigator ▼7, #148 Moat ▲3

Previous ranked in the bottom 10 are now: #147 Thief ▲9, #137 Chancellor ▲16, #132 Counting House ▲17, #130 Stash ▲24, #125 Philosopher's Stone ▲27

VP generating cards are still everybody's favourite:
#1 Monument ▲19, #7 Bishop ▼5, #52 Goons ▼35
So are Duration cards:
#3 Fishing Village ▼2, #4 Tactician ▲23, #5 Wharf ▼1, #21 Merchant Ship ▲48, #46 Caravan ▼9, #76 Lighthouse ▼8, #79 Haven ▼30, #120 Outpost ▼14
Alternative VP are now much better rated:
#16 Vineyard ▲27, #24 Gardens ▲64, #33 Silk Road ▲75, #42 Tunnel ▼9, #47 Island ▲11, #54 Fairgrounds ▼2, #56 Duke ▲58, #67 Nobles =0, #94 Harem ▼32, #117 Farmland ▼34, #127 Great Hall ▼10
Reaction cards are still low although two cards made big jumps:
#17 Watchtower ▲61, #42 Tunnel ▼9, #49 Trader ▲63, #55 Horse Traders ▼7, #122 Fool's Gold ▼33, #148 Moat ▲3, #154 Secret Chamber ▲1
Treasure cards are still very low rated:
#8 Horn of Plenty ▲18, #39 Venture ▼30, #41 Bank ▲41, #43 Hoard ▼28, #71 Quarry ▲31, #90 Ill-Gotten-Gains ▼10, #94 Harem ▼32, #102 Cache ▲37, #103 Loan ▼11, #105 Royal Seal ▼6, #108 Contraband ▲18, #122 Fool's Gold ▼33, #125 Philosopher's Stone ▲27, #130 Stash ▲24, #143 Talisman ▼9
Potion cost cards also gained some love:
#16 Vineyard ▲27, #22 Scrying Pool ▲73, #32 Golem ▲54, #34 Apothecary ▼2, #66 University ▲5, #81 Alchemist ▼6, #91 Possession ▲46, #125 Philosopher's Stone ▲27, #153 Familiar ▼35, #157 Transmute ▼7

Attacks were also rated a little bit higher, but nearly all cards with very big changes.
Top 5 Attacks:
#22 Scrying Pool ▲73, #26 Jester ▲13, #31 Margrave ▲63, #52 Goons ▼35, #68 Witch ▲22
Bottom 5 Attacks:
#153 Familiar ▼35, #150 Fortune Teller ▼12, #147 Thief ▲9, #145 Spy ▼49, #129 Saboteur ▲16

Most agreement on the ranking / lowest deviation:
Talisman (#143), Transmute (#157), Feast (#144), Monument (#1), Woodcutter (#151), Worker's Village (#44), Spy (#145), Nomad Camp (#133), Bazaar (#61), Navigator (#149)

Least agreement on the ranking / highest deviation:
Minion (#113), King's Court (#12), Governor (#62), Hunting Party (#60), Jack of all Trades (#126), Black Market (#118), Masquerade (#40), Possession (#91), Tournament (#116) and Ambassador (#84) is again the most controversial card

Favourite expansions:
#1 =0 Cornucopia     60.4 ▼13.1
#2 =0 Prosperity      65.1 ▼3.7
#3 ▲1 Hinterlands    72.3 ▲11.2
#4 ▲2 Alchemy       76.4 ▲13.3
#5 ▼2 Seaside        79.7 ▼2.9
#6 ▼1 Intrigue        87.6 ▼2.7
#7 =0 Base            93.6 ▼3.2
(#8 =0 Promo         118.4 ▼23.0)

3 big changes and I find the change in Alchemy quite surprising.

Thanks for all the contribution. Until December 2012, where we'll see #1 Scout ▲154

For reference, here is the full ranking:
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# Card Name Points Deviation

1 Monument 34.63 24.84
2 Menagerie 35.65 34.42
3 Fishing Village 40.33 37.81
4 Tactician 41.05 38.29
5 Wharf 41.47 41.65
6 Apprentice 42.20 38.48
7 Bishop 42.98 43.27
8 Horn of Plenty 44.85 41.46
9 Highway 46.33 29.27
10 Steward 46.35 36.36
11 Scheme 47.43 42.91
12 King's Court 47.47 52.38
13 Conspirator 49.07 36.61
14 Salvager 49.18 30.18
15 Border Village 49.25 29.36
16 Vineyard 49.65 45.39
17 Watchtower 49.97 33.27
18 Crossroads 50.38 37.04
19 Hamlet 50.98 38.80
20 Throne Room 51.37 42.42
21 Merchant Ship 52.25 31.97
22 Scrying Pool 52.63 43.03
23 Haggler 52.88 30.02
24 Gardens 53.03 42.70
25 Laboratory 53.20 31.46
26 Jester 53.23 39.46
27 Chapel 53.48 47.50
28 Festival 54.22 30.65
29 Stables 54.52 34.54
30 Grand Market 54.95 36.12
31 Margrave 55.03 32.68
32 Golem 57.35 45.64
33 Silk Road 57.68 39.18
34 Apothecary 57.98 41.40
35 Bridge 57.98 42.25
36 Peddler 58.25 40.53
37 Inn 59.40 33.63
38 Embassy 59.92 44.00
39 Venture 60.38 32.85
40 Masquerade 60.67 54.90
41 Bank 61.05 30.10
42 Tunnel 61.27 48.91
43 Hoard 61.38 29.71
44 Worker's Village 61.40 26.49
45 Warehouse 62.07 39.47
46 Caravan 62.57 40.35
47 Island 63.25 38.46
48 Embargo 63.38 44.93
49 Trader 63.68 32.47
50 Upgrade 64.13 35.64
51 Remake 64.28 43.09
52 Goons 64.30 49.02
53 Courtyard 65.10 39.01
54 Fairgrounds 65.32 46.13
55 Horse Traders 65.50 31.02
56 Duke 65.62 40.31
57 Vault 65.90 41.92
58 Library 66.58 28.83
59 Cartographer 66.65 39.99
60 Hunting Party 66.75 52.90
61 Bazaar 67.40 28.16
62 Governor 67.90 52.61
63 Native Village 68.63 50.64
64 City 69.73 41.40
65 Market 70.90 33.18
66 University 71.18 39.90
67 Nobles 71.57 35.96
68 Witch 71.62 44.67
69 Mountebank 72.03 43.56
70 Farming Village 73.63 31.28
71 Quarry 73.85 37.49
72 Forge 74.52 37.83
73 Council Room 75.12 28.96
74 Moneylender 75.12 32.55
75 Militia 75.15 39.18
76 Lighthouse 75.20 32.62
77 Cutpurse 75.50 35.85
78 Trading Post 76.30 34.37
79 Haven 76.42 34.88
80 Mining Village 76.72 34.30
81 Alchemist 77.60 46.31
82 Baron 78.30 42.57
83 Rabble 79.03 32.10
84 Ambassador 79.12 57.36
85 Young Witch 79.38 42.79
86 Oracle 80.42 42.34
87 Wishing Well 80.95 42.20
88 Ironworks 82.23 33.23
89 Harvest 83.25 44.03
90 Ill-Gotten Gains 83.77 49.96
91 Possession 84.05 54.91
92 Torturer 84.07 45.55
93 Smithy 84.65 35.64
94 Harem 85.30 29.54
95 Village 85.30 33.72
96 Spice Merchant 85.78 35.24
97 Expand 86.60 34.85
98 Trade Route 86.67 29.15
99 Cellar 86.73 44.29
100 Tribute 86.98 44.23
101 Noble Brigand 87.10 44.40
102 Cache 87.22 35.76
103 Loan 87.88 37.36
104 Mint 87.95 33.97
105 Royal Seal 90.23 35.87
106 Treasury 90.92 30.01
107 Ghost Ship 91.33 49.30
108 Contraband 91.63 44.25
109 Sea Hag 92.57 50.51
110 Pawn 92.80 37.46
111 Mandarin 93.48 39.35
112 Oasis 93.53 28.46
113 Minion 94.13 52.25
114 Shanty Town 94.22 37.62
115 Pirate Ship 94.83 48.58
116 Tournament 95.50 56.95
117 Farmland 95.60 38.51
118 Black Market 95.65 54.70
119 Lookout 95.68 38.90
120 Outpost 95.75 46.88
121 Mine 97.35 36.04
122 Remodel 97.50 34.42
123 Fool's Gold 97.50 52.17
124 Swindler 98.20 50.22
125 Philosopher's Stone 99.78 45.29
126 Jack of all Trades 100.92 53.10
127 Great Hall 101.95 28.37
128 Bureaucrat 103.33 31.23
129 Saboteur 103.47 50.28
130 Stash 103.75 44.21
131 Explorer 103.92 36.18
132 Counting House 104.03 47.34
133 Nomad Camp 107.17 27.95
134 Herbalist 107.42 28.91
135 Workshop 107.43 35.70
136 Develop 108.87 37.62
137 Chancellor 109.40 37.73
138 Coppersmith 109.77 38.01
139 Adventurer 110.17 40.15
140 Walled Village 110.50 29.27
141 Smugglers 111.73 39.83
142 Envoy 111.83 36.66
143 Talisman 113.25 20.45
144 Feast 114.12 24.74
145 Spy 115.23 26.76
146 Pearl Diver 115.57 32.39
147 Thief 118.12 30.32
148 Moat 119.33 28.61
149 Navigator 120.23 28.24
150 Fortune Teller 120.60 32.75
151 Woodcutter 121.83 25.23
152 Duchess 122.77 32.44
153 Familiar 123.78 38.96
154 Secret Chamber 127.65 29.06
155 Scout 128.30 29.17
156 Treasure Map 129.78 29.19
157 Transmute 129.93 24.13
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 07:38:17 pm »
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 No love for Transmute? 

 :'(

Guess I should bother to do this next time.
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 07:44:55 pm »
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#62 Governor ▼57

Jig's up, Governor, we figured out your game!
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 07:55:20 pm »
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Scrying pool at 24? I wasn't aware people enjoy sitting through 5 minute turns.
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 03:40:08 am »
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Why no love for fortune teller ? Such a great card...  :'(
Same goes for Saboteur...

Alchemist and Governor are ranked too high  >:( . They are so boring and uninteresting...
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 06:46:45 am »
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Would it be possible for my list to be sent back to me? I'd quite like to compare the two (I know I used the rating system, so might be a bit tricky but eh)

Edit: Still I find there's some weirdness in here. Hunting Party at #60? People don't hate cards that lead to a single rote strategy 75% of the time? And have lots of mechanical actions to perform? I think I rated it 0, along with Mountebank and Minion only. Mountebank is just horrendous, leads to slow BM games 90% of the time, and the Minion deck is like the HP deck but less dominating. I have no idea how Mountebank reached 69 (heh), it implies more people rated it top half than bottom half for a start.

These ratings are pretty crazy, overall. I'd like to see what kind of deviations cards were getting, for instance, as well as a numerical score for each one.
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 11:46:46 am »
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There is probably a heavy iso influence here, but I wonder how much.  In terms of speed of play, Scrying Pool is a lot quicker in live games, while Hunting Party is a lot slower.  That certainly makes a difference to me how fun they are.
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Re: The Favourite Dominion Cards List 2012 Ed.2
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 03:47:26 am »
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Would it be possible for my list to be sent back to me? I'd quite like to compare the two (I know I used the rating system, so might be a bit tricky but eh)

Edit: Still I find there's some weirdness in here. Hunting Party at #60? People don't hate cards that lead to a single rote strategy 75% of the time? And have lots of mechanical actions to perform? I think I rated it 0, along with Mountebank and Minion only. Mountebank is just horrendous, leads to slow BM games 90% of the time, and the Minion deck is like the HP deck but less dominating. I have no idea how Mountebank reached 69 (heh), it implies more people rated it top half than bottom half for a start.

These ratings are pretty crazy, overall. I'd like to see what kind of deviations cards were getting, for instance, as well as a numerical score for each one.

Points and Deviation added. I will send you your list.
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