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1. Chapel
2. Mountebank
3. Rebuild
4. King's Court
5. Cultist
6. Goons
7. Wharf
8. Ambassador
9. Masquerade
10. Remake
11. Governor
12. Witch
13. Tournament
14. Scrying Pool
15. Junk Dealer
16. Steward
17. Page
18. Urchin
19. Hunting Party
20. Fishing Village
21. Grand Market
22. Ironmonger
23. Jack of all Trades
24. Torturer
25. Wandering Minstrel
26. Magpie
27. Lost Arts
28. Minion
29. Upgrade
30. Counterfeit
31. Swindler
32. Menagerie
33. Herald
34. Peasant
35. Forager
36. Ferry
37. Bridge
38. Butcher
39. Familiar
40. Margrave
41. Haunted Woods
42. Ghost Ship
43. Sea Hag
44. Stonemason
45. Tactician
46. Swamp Hag
47. Young Witch
48. Lost City
49. Bridge Troll
50. Border Village
51. Highway
52. Amulet
53. Pathfinding
54. Militia
55. Count
56. Haggler
57. Apprentice
58. Throne Room
59. Fool's Gold
60. Marauder
61. Knights
62. Spice Merchant
63. Watchtower
64. Hermit
65. Laboratory
66. Courtyard
67. Horn of Plenty
68. Hamlet
69. Royal Carriage
70. Vineyard
71. Stables
72. Hunting Grounds
73. Inheritance
74. Black Market
75. Hireling
76. Ill-Gotten Gains
77. Port
78. Caravan
79. Bishop
80. Lighthouse
81. Soothsayer
82. Altar
83. Monument
84. Worker's Village
85. Summon
86. Smithy
87. Apothecary
88. Gear
89. Plaza
90. Embassy
91. Bandit Camp
92. Bazaar
93. Alchemist
94. Conspirator
95. Squire
96. Rabble
97. Quarry
98. Catacombs
99. Warehouse
100. City
101. Vault
102. Baker
103. Peddler
104. Duke
105. Ratcatcher
106. Salvager
107. Procession
108. Journeyman
109. Nobles
110. Distant Lands
111. Guide
112. Jester
113. Envoy
114. Transmogrify
115. Duplicate
116. Moneylender
117. Training
118. Dungeon
119. Ironworks
120. Scheme
121. Merchant Guild
122. Fortress
123. Cartographer
124. Storyteller
125. Festival
126. Artificer
127. Horse Traders
128. Candlestick Maker
129. University
130. Village
131. Council Room
132. Advisor
133. Crossroads
134. Alms
135. Fairgrounds
136. Market
137. Market Square
138. Possession
139. Bonfire
140. Coin of the Realm
141. Inn
142. Giant
143. Band of Misfits
144. Ranger
145. Farming Village
146. Golem
147. Expedition
148. Mission
149. Scavenger
150. Mining Village
151. Raze
152. Remodel
153. Library
154. Relic
155. Borrow
156. Ball
157. Cutpurse
158. Gardens
159. Lookout
160. Doctor
161. Forge
162. Wishing Well
163. Save
164. Hoard
165. Prince
166. Native Village
167. Pilgrimage
168. Mystic
169. Treasure Trove
170. Trading Post
171. Storeroom
172. Graverobber
173. Oasis
174. Travelling Fair
175. Plan
176. Oracle
177. Seaway
178. Treasury
179. Shanty Town
180. Baron
181. Silk Road
182. Bank
183. Miser
184. Venture
185. Smugglers
186. Expand
187. Outpost
188. Mint
189. Wine Merchant
190. Island
191. Armory
192. Pawn
193. Walled Village
194. Cellar
195. Merchant Ship
196. Tunnel
197. Trader
198. Trade
199. Haven
200. Death Cart
201. Pillage
202. Messenger
203. Caravan Guard
204. Moat
205. Vagrant
206. Workshop
207. Rogue
208. Loan
209. Develop
210. Sage
211. Feodum
212. Poor House
213. Masterpiece
214. Raid
215. Scouting Party
216. Nomad Camp
217. Quest
218. Rats
219. Noble Brigand
220. Harem
221. Embargo
222. Trade Route
223. Talisman
224. Tribute
225. Taxman
226. Philosopher's Stone
227. Mine
228. Farmland
229. Explorer
230. Royal Seal
231. Beggar
232. Coppersmith
233. Fortune Teller
234. Spy
235. Mandarin
236. Contraband
237. Bureaucrat
238. Woodcutter
239. Great Hall
240. Pirate Ship
241. Pearl Diver
242. Treasure Map
243. Stash
244. Feast
245. Herbalist
246. Navigator
247. Saboteur
248. Cache
249. Harvest
250. Transmute
251. Counting House
252. Chancellor
253. Secret Chamber
254. Duchess
255. Adventurer
256. Thief
257. Scout

[Limetime]

How is rebuild<kc I ignore rebuild more than Kc and KC beats rebuild any day.

[LaLight]

Lost arts is waaaay underrated IMO.

[Roadrunner7671]

Are you kidding? People need to get educated! Worst overall? Man, that's bull.

[LastFootnote]

Are you kidding? People need to get educated! Worst overall? Man, that's bull.

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

[Roadrunner7671]

Are you kidding? People need to get educated! Worst overall? Man, that's bull.

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

+4

[liopoil]

Okay, Watchtower is not better than hermit.

[werothegreat]

Are you kidding? People need to get educated! Worst overall? Man, that's bull.

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

Really?  I would put Chancellor over all of these.  I mean, it at least has the bare minimum going for it - it's a terminal Silver, which is more than can be said for the others in most conditions.

[markusin]

Woah, too many cards to parse right now.

Skimming through, I noticed Black Market at 74, which should be higher right. I predict some of the Adventures rankings are way off.

Also, Feast Y U No bottom 10.

[Dingan]

I'll do what most people probably do -- focus on the top 10 and bottom 10.

KC > Rebuild
My gut still says Cultist > Monty, but really unsure
Ambassador should be higher
Goons is super awesome but should be a bit lower, because it's nothing more than a Militia or Monument in some circumstances, and is ignorable more often than, say, Masq
Scrying Pool should be way higher
I would put Masq > Wharf, but would not fight over it (my main problem with Wharf is that it needs Throne Rooms or villages to really make it powerful, whereas Masq does it's magic just by itself, but I digress)

I would put Transmute and Adventurer as the bottom 2 cards.  I never buy those.  Like ever.  Like, I have played thousands of games since Goko, and have probably bought each maaaaaybe 1 time.  I know I've bought Scout at least a handful of times.
Secret Chamber should be higher, as in above Feast and Stash etc.  It (kind of) shines in several scenarios -- Scrying Pool, Knights, Swindler.  (I know, all cards can shine given the right circumstances; it just seems like SC shines in more oddball situations than it would appear to at first glance.)

As for the other 250 cards... ya they look about right.

EDIT:
I'm somewhat digressing here, but I guess I feel that cards that need other cards to truly be powerful/activated, are overrated.  Take Torturer for example.  1 Torturer is not going to do much.  It's when you can play 3 or 4 per turn when it truly gets powerful.  But in order to do that, you need other village support.  I could make a similar statement about Goons or Wharf.  Don't get me wrong -- these are all wonderful cards.  They just need other things to make them truly shine.  By contrast, Chapel, Masq, Governor, etc. don't need much else to "maximize" their effect, and for that reason, I tend to regard these as probably better than they actually are.  My 2 cents.  Carry on.

[Awaclus]

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

I don't think you should. Thief is good when your opponent is relying on good Treasures, Adventurer is good when you need more draw for your engine that already has other good draw but the pile ran out, Chancellor is good with Stash, and Secret Chamber is good with Tactician, Counting House and Scrying Pool. Sometimes, there are edge cases where Scout hurts you less than it usually does, but I can't remember playing a single game where I think Scout was actually worth getting and I've tried to design kingdoms around it.

[Roadrunner7671]

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

and I've tried to design kingdoms around it.

Try harder.

[managore]

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

I don't think you should. Thief is good when your opponent is relying on good Treasures, Adventurer is good when you need more draw for your engine that already has other good draw but the pile ran out, Chancellor is good with Stash, and Secret Chamber is good with Tactician, Counting House and Scrying Pool. Sometimes, there are edge cases where Scout hurts you less than it usually does, but I can't remember playing a single game where I think Scout was actually worth getting and I've tried to design kingdoms around it.

Scout, Harem, Great Hall, Fishing Village, Woodcutter, Militia, Navigator, Baron, Scavenger, Nomad Camp.

Would that do?

[trivialknot]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

[Awaclus]

Scout, Harem, Great Hall, Fishing Village, Woodcutter, Militia, Navigator, Baron, Scavenger, Nomad Camp.

Would that do?

I don't think so.

[ehunt]

Adventurer is crazy overpriced but has its niches; the times to pick it up are:
-an all base game with chapel and no draw
-a boring colony game
But still, if it were priced at 3, it would be worse than Oracle.

Thief is an OK way to punish an opponent in a KC game for not building a KC engine, and is an actively good card on a Fool's Gold board, but is usually horrible.

Noble Brigand is better than Thief in four ways:
1. Attacks on buy.
2. +1coin when you play.
3. Does something if it doesn't hit treasure.
4. Doesn't trash your opponent's coppers for them,
and yet it is still an awful card. In fact, the one way in which thief is better (hits treasures other than silver and gold) is sufficiently important that for some non-trivial proportion of the rare boards in which you want one of them, Thief is the one that you want.

[Qvist]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

[schadd]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

a couple of people, like, two people? who was the other guy?

[AJD]

Adventurer is crazy overpriced but has its niches; the times to pick it up are:
-an all base game with chapel and no draw
-a boring colony game
But still, if it were priced at 3, it would be worse than Oracle

The last time I bought Adventurer (or at least, the last time I bought Adventurer and it was a good idea) was a game with Scrying Pool, Bishop, and no villages. So I bought Adventurer just because it was a $6 Action (i.e., because I could draw it with Scrying Pool and Bishop it for 4 VP), rather than to actually use it.

[werothegreat]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

a couple of people, like, two people? who was the other guy?

Me.

[markusin]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

a couple of people, like, two people? who was the other guy?

Me.

And me. So that's more than two. I'm not personally a fan of "a couple" automatically implying two. It's more like 2 + (0 to 3 ) others.

[schadd]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

also, that's a lil bit unfair maybe, if it's, like, a ranking of percent scores then chapel gets an advantage because it happens to be so clearly better than all of the other $2s, whereas with the threes or something it's more up in the air.

[Aleimon Thimble]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

a couple of people, like, two people? who was the other guy?

Me.

And me. So that's more than two. I'm not personally a fan of "a couple" automatically implying two. It's more like 2 + (0 to 3 ) others.

Number 4 reporting!

[Accatitippi]

Are you kidding? People need to get educated! Worst overall? Man, that's bull.

I think I get Scout more often than Thief, Adventurer, Chancellor, or Secret Chamber, so I guess I'd have to agree with you.

Really?  I would put Chancellor over all of these.  I mean, it at least has the bare minimum going for it - it's a terminal Silver, which is more than can be said for the others in most conditions.

Secret Chamber's abuse potential makes it much better than Scout too, in my opinion. It's occasionally a decent card and once in a while an awesome card. I'd put it above Chancellor (ok card most of the time), Transmute and Harvest, definitely. (Counting house being a bit further up the list).

[Limetime]

How are the cards ranked?  Did people actually vote on a complete ranking of all cards, or they just ordered by the percentage points from the other lists?

A couple of people actually ordered all cards. For the rest I took all individual lists and spread the cards out equally.

a couple of people, like, two people? who was the other guy?

Me.

And me. So that's more than two. I'm not personally a fan of "a couple" automatically implying two. It's more like 2 + (0 to 3 ) others.

Number 4 reporting!

Number 5 is here! Anyway I think that people that took the time to rate ~all of the cards should be weighted because that way we can see how cads of different prices matchup.
Transmute can be a solid consolation prize in a familiar game(to a lesser extent scrying pool)