Day 1: Has a townread on ash and says he has some good points on Andrew. Also says he's getting a scummy vibe from me.
Says this:
Would you rather I not assume you are town?
Ooh, I don't like this from ash. He said it a lot to me in Chocolate Factory.
Restates previous reads, but says yuma is most certainly Town.
Having said that, Town read on ash. I think his point on Andrew has merit. It's a long way from a slam-dunk case, but the way he said it does come across as knowledge rather than assumption.
I'm getting a scummy vibe from Arch.
Could you elaborate on Archetype? Things seem pretty null in my eyes right now.
I can't actually - I just re-read him and can't remember what it was that gave me that vibe.
Wants to lynch Andrew, but is willing to vote for sudgy.
I was gonna say he can vig Sudgy instead, but that's stupid when we can just lynch Sudgyand he can save his shot
Well yeah. On the other hand his claim will be proven.
In addition to ash, wants to know what a Split Jailkeeper is.
Yeah that seems like a fairly believeable claim.
Have you thought about which option you're going to choose Tonight Andrew?
Hammers sudgy at deadline.
Day 2:I post my mini-case on ash, and Jimmmmm still thinks he's Town. Lurks more and later in the day says that yuma and ash are still Townreads. Votes xeiron after xeiron voted yuma. Starts to get questoned by WW:
First, Jimm is super active right before the lynch, and puts (or is just put in) a position where he essentially decides who the lynch candidate is. This is somewhat convenient, as if one of the lynch candidates were scum, he could decide the other one.
This is false. My preferred lynch between the two was Andrew, but I couldn't get that lynch through so I settled for the sudgy lynch ahead of no-lynch. I mean, you could say scum me would have let the no-lynch happen instead if the person in question was also scum, but I don't think that's particularly compelling.
Which part is false? You're saying that Andrew lynch could not have happened? When I was reading it looked like there was a point where both were viable. I thought someone even said that it's going to come down to whichever one Jimmm chooses.
It's false that I got to choose which lynch went through. Regardless of what you think someone said, I chose the Andrew lynch and the sudgy lynch went though.
I'm not convinced of this. When you came back, Andrew had 4 votes with you and Ash not voting, and TA was on Sudgy but willing to lynch anyone to avoid a no lynch. So that would lynch Andrew. What changed it was Andrew claiming, not the Sudgy lynch being more viable. Prior to the claiming, you were in a position to determine the lynch. Or at least push the lynchee to the point of needing to claim.
Can't pull up quotes right now, but I think I have the events correctly. Will try to concretize.
He starts to get really confused regarding flavor and asks a bunch of questions about whether or not certain things in green flavor (specifically, TA's Thief result) are just flavor. Gets voted by ashersky for him feeling off about his reaction to TA's result. Subsequently gets voted by Xerxes for having "scummy reactions". Supports a massclaim.
I'm confused about the Jim lynch. Is there a solid reason anyone has for shooting him or has this game just stagnated to the point where people are fine lynching whoever?
The latter I think. Town-aligned players are ready to punish me for poor play without too much thought about whether or how that makes me scum, and any scum who are on the wagon are obviously happy for a caseless lynch to go through.
That's what scum!jimmmmm says. Town!jimmmmm is understanding and apologetic to this wagon.
I understand wanting to punish poor play, and I unreservedly apologise to my teammates for said play. Having said that I think if I am lynched it will be a lynch of convenience - I am yet to see any solid work go into deducing my alignment, and I've seen a lot people say they are happy to lynch me without giving any reasons.
2 good quotes.
Gah, we're running low on time. I think a rushed-for-time lynch is a bad sitaution. There are so many quiet people. Does anyone have a post count?
Can people start posting more? Theories, thoughts, ideas, any explanation for why you find certain people scummy or towny.
I find myself Towny. I find yuma Towny. I find ash Towny. I even find xeiron, the person I'm currently voting for Towny. I have literally no idea who is likely to be scum.
Okay I agree with Yuma and obviously you'll say that about yourself. Why Ash and Xeiron?
ash from ages ago, I can't even remember why. Just the way he was approaching the game. xeiron because after I voted for him I had the exact same thought that yuma had - scum would be unlikely to vote yuma out of the blue.
Stating reads.
Follows Andrew to vote for WW.
Day 3:Can someone remind me what a Redirector does? How is it normally used?
Redirector can target one player and move all actions that affect them to someone else. As a scum power, it's wicked powerful.
Poweful how? If you were a Redirector, what would you likely use it for?
Target the IC, redirect all actions that affect them to someone else to make sure your kill works. Target a player who is likely to be investigated by a Cop, redirect them to your partner. Target your partner who is likely to be investigated by a Cop, redirect them to the IC.
Reaction to WW's death.
Claims Tracker nonchalantly and asks for a clarification on my role. Confusion about how he targeted WW, the Redirector, and only got one target back. Ash clarifies how a Redirector may work.
Weird thing from Jimmmmm:
It means that if he ends up surviving, he's much more likely to be scum lying about his role. It helps because pre-committing is a good way of getting out of stupid situations like those that might come up if he survives and convinces everyone that because he got his knife back, he survived and wasn't lying, which I think is very implausible.
So you're telling scum, "If you leave him alive we'll lynch him"?
Day 4Says he Tracked me for no result and says Andrew is likely scum. Really thinks that there could be 2 scum...which I disagreed with him about. Totally dismisses ash and seems very confused about the N2 actions.
Day 5Tracks Andrew to me. Really pushes that yuma/I share why we think each other are Town. Think that Andrew could have been bussed by ash and that he's reaping the rewards of it right now. Vehemently says he doesn't want to flavor claim. Says he may put up a defense and that I'm conf!town.
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