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[Voltaire]

vote: Teproc?

[Eevee]

I don't like this lynch at all.

Me neither.

As far as I can see, ahoppy is being his normal, scarcely posting always town self, and the wagon took off after he wrote that one post where he clearly outlined the logical fallacy in TA's case against me.

[Eevee]

I don't like this lynch at all.

Me neither.

As far as I can see, ahoppy is being his normal, scarcely posting always town self, and the wagon took off after he wrote that one post where he clearly outlined the logical fallacy in TA's case against me.

and I feel the people accusing him think I'm scum, not town

[Voltaire]

Yeah.

[Voltaire]

I don't like this lynch at all.

Me neither.

As far as I can see, ahoppy is being his normal, scarcely posting always town self, and the wagon took off after he wrote that one post where he clearly outlined the logical fallacy in TA's case against me.

and I feel the people accusing him think I'm scum, not town

Huh?

[Eevee]

if he is suspected of being my partner, shouldn't the lynch
be me?

like, I think ahoppy is an illogical lynch for everyone. why is he getting lynched? is it not for defending me?

[Voltaire]

like, I think ahoppy is an illogical lynch for everyone. why is he getting lynched? is it not for defending me?

Not from my point of view, no. That's the part that started making me question the lynch, when others joined it for that bad reason.

[chairs]

What's the argument for Teproc?  Ahoppy's not a particularly great lynch in my opinion, either, but I'm not sold on there being a better option (simply because I think we're still not seeing a great option at all right now).

[Voltaire]

Jimmmmm? Very active at the start, then has totally disappeared.

I guess I'm fine with a Teproc lynch too then.

[yuma]

chairs... my points on Teproc:

Alright then:

Teproc....

 - Ok... my first initial impression of Teproc was that he was coming into the game using the "angry, contentious townie" impression that is very easy for scum to fall back on. Comes in and just is really against everything that is going on, from the current status of theory talk, to the current wagons. It is certainly one I have taken in the past (Wibbly Wobbely in regard to Volt's lynch day1 for example...)

 - He didn't do much hunting at all early. He had a vote on me and then just talked theory for a really long time. Eventually he sat down on a vote on chairs for not contributing. The vote wasn't too important to me, although it was indicative of how he was approaching the game... just kinda talking theory and realized he wasn't hunting and so went for an easy target? But instead it was what happened after as chairs had just made his "I forgot about the game" moment. Voltaire pointed it out and Teproc responded very passively. Kinda like an "Oopps... that was silly of me, hope no one notices..."

 - Next he moves a vote to Jimmmmm but what is important here isnt' the vote on Jimmmm it is how he is responding to the votes on eevee... he says "I don't like Jimmm's vote at all though. The fourth vote is what makes it a wagon, and I don't think Eevee is a good wagon because of his relative lurkiness" which wasn't that basically the same reason he voted for chairs earlier. So one is a wagon he is willing to start, but the second is a wagon that he isn't? What is the difference? I think the wagons or the people aren't different (except for of course, the fact that some people found chairs to be townie because of his moment, but that is beside the point) instead the difference is how Teproc wants to approach it. I think scum nowadays wants to be the ones creating the wagons. They want to be in control and then attack those who are creating the wagons. And I think that is what Teproc is doing here (faust originally brought up this idea). He sees a wagon... I don't know the alignment of eevee so it is on town or a scum partner?.... and takes it down and tries to get a wagon started on a player that is on it... Jimmmm. To expound on this, he says his reason for voting Jimmm is because he disagrees with Jimmmm's read. Disagreeing with reads doesn't indicate scummy. Scummy is scummy. Disagreeing is a convenient way to make it look like someone is scummy.

So those are the things that had stuck out to me as I was reading them as they came through. The first two I don't think are that significant in a sense. They are more what I would term "gut feels" even though I hate that terminology. To explain it, they are some of the things that I look for scum to be doing that make me want to look closer at a person... Kinda makes me want to keep my eye on them as town can do them as well (well town can do anything scum can do because the scum playing on here of late is exceptionally good I think) so they are more just triggers that make me think teproc has a chance of being scum, but don't necessarily make me think he is scum.

The third I think is potentially more important. As it shows a difference in how teproc is approaching different wagons and the difference depends on what he wants to get out of it. Also I think the excuse to find Jimmmm scummy because he disagrees with a read is weak excuse for his vote.

So maybe not enough to vote for, but like I said, I would be willing, especially compared to TA and chairs....

[scott_pilgrim]

I like the case against Teproc, and would like to see a lynch actually get through.  vote: Teproc

[yuma]

that is 5, L-2 I believe

[pingpongsam]

Well, I am out for the night. I hope you guys can agree on a lynch before deadline.

[Archetype]

I can't remember how I labeled him before, but I'm leaning "alright with" for the Teproc lynch. I'm hesitant to lay my vote down since I prefer others' lynch to his.

[yuma]

vote count status quo:

Ahoppy (5) : chairs, Teproc, Robz, chairs, PPS
Eevee (3) : Twistedarcher, Jimmmmm, Archetype
Teproc (4) : faust, yuma, Eevee, Voltaire, scott
chairs (1) : Ahoppy

[Archetype]

So only 4 on Teproc. Vote: Teproc

[Archetype]

What scares me is that Eevee is on the wagon. I'm hoping my reads are just terrible and Eevee is a Towny trying to save himself.

Also, chairs is doubly voting for AHoppy, Yuma.

[yuma]

So only 4 on Teproc. Vote: Teproc

yeah, previously I had counted eevee's vote twice I think? Keep in mind this obviously isn't official... but I do try to be accurate.

Anyone else? Chairs you ever look at the case? Robz? Jimmmm going to be around? Ahoppy hasn't been here to respond at all...

Who is here?

[yuma]

who am I missing then... Maybe they are voting for Teproc then?

[Robz888]

Your vote count looks wrong to me... you count chairs twice.

Um... I'm busy right now, when is deadline, midnight? I will be on before that to review.

[yuma]

Oy... that is what I get for trying to post while holding a baby:

Retry:

Ahoppy (4) : Teproc, Robz, chairs, PPS
Eevee (2) : Twistedarcher, Jimmmmm
Teproc (6) : faust, yuma, Eevee, Voltaire, scott, Archetype (L-1)...
chairs (1) : Ahoppy

Is where we are at I believe

[Archetype]

Unvote.

[Archetype]

Teproc won't be able to claim if he's lynch candidate, which really sucks.

[yuma]

Teproc won't be able to claim if he's lynch candidate, which really sucks.

We aren't doing any claiming... there is nothing to claim! Where have you been....

why did you unvote?

[Archetype]

Teproc won't be able to claim if he's lynch candidate, which really sucks.

We aren't doing any claiming... there is nothing to claim! Where have you been....

why did you unvote?

He can claim which night he does things. If he's a N1 Cop, a N1 Doc could protect him.
Eh, but wait. WIFOM. I guess I'll (re)Vote: Teproc. Deadline is a lot sooner than I thought anyways.